Virginians have a Democratic primary this Tuesday June 11. Republicans and any registered voter may vote. Running for Lt Gov are Aneesh Chopra, former White House Chief Technology Officer under President Obama, and State Senator Ralph Northam, a pediatric neurologist from the Norfolk area. All these recent revelations about the NSA spying on Americans and intercepting our phone and internata data have me wondering. How much of a role, if any, did Aneesh Chopra play in that while he was White House CTO? Why did he leave the White House? I want a real expalantion, not the old canard "I'm going to run for office in a year and half." Has he had a paying job since then? How much did he know about the spying? Chopra says he's going to use technology to improve the lot of the middle class in Virginia. Does that mean spying on us? My Democratic friends are split on the candidates but some of my Republican friends are going to cross over to vote in the Dem primary just to vote against Chopra. Do people on this forum vote? What do you think?

Wasn't his sister or cousin the chick who ran down people on the W&O trail? How can you be so drunk that you drive down a bike trail in Vienna?

Unless the VA Senate has a 20/20 split, the Lt. Gov job does nothing so it doesn't matter anyway.

Wasn't Chopra the CTO for DC before Obama hired him? And wasn't the massive billing fraud on tech contracts in DC his responsibility? And now he wants to screw over Virginia too? Fuck him!

Libtard savages

Just to answer some of the questions here:

The Virginia Senate does have a 20-20 split. The next state senate election is in 2015. Until then, the lieutenant governor has the deciding vote on just about anything where the two parties disagree.

Chopra is a common last name, like Smith. There is no connection between the woman who ran her car onto a bike trail, whose last name is Chopra, and the Democratic primary candidate Aneesh Chopra.

Chopra was never the CTO for Washington, DC. That was someone else. Instead, Chopra was the CTO for the state of Virginia under Governor Tim Kaine and was very successful.

Chopra was also the first ever federal CTO, pioneering the position, and was very successful in that role as well. Look at any of the news stories around the time he stepped down for an assessment.

Obviously, the NSA program was a top-secret program run by the NSA at Fort Meade, not an openly recognized government efficency and modernization program run by named, public admin managers at the White House. Only someone with no knowledge of computers or government would confuse the CTO of the federal government with the classified workers at NSA working on this Prism project.

Good God, you people are stupid! How do you get through life?

Straight Answers Wrote:
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> Just to answer some of the questions here:
>
> The Virginia Senate does have a 20-20 split. The
> next state senate election is in 2015. Until then,
> the lieutenant governor has the deciding vote on
> just about anything where the two parties
> disagree.
>
> Chopra is a common last name, like Smith. There is
> no connection between the woman who ran her car
> onto a bike trail, whose last name is Chopra, and
> the Democratic primary candidate Aneesh Chopra.
>
> Chopra was never the CTO for Washington, DC. That
> was someone else. Instead, Chopra was the CTO for
> the state of Virginia under Governor Tim Kaine and
> was very successful.
>
> Chopra was also the first ever federal CTO,
> pioneering the position, and was very successful
> in that role as well. Look at any of the news
> stories around the time he stepped down for an
> assessment.
>
> Obviously, the NSA program was a top-secret
> program run by the NSA at Fort Meade, not an
> openly recognized government efficency and
> modernization program run by named, public admin
> managers at the White House. Only someone with no
> knowledge of computers or government would confuse
> the CTO of the federal government with the
> classified workers at NSA working on this Prism
> project.


Here's a straight answer: he's a fricking Injun. They rape little girls in India all day, every day. Plus, they smell bad, eat crap for food and can't drive or manage to keep out of the way at Costco. Screw him. I'm going with the baby killer instead.

We can thank George Fucking Bush for this spying horseshit.

Straighter Answers Wrote:
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> Here's a straight answer: he's a fricking Injun.
> They rape little girls in India all day, every
> day. Plus, they smell bad, eat crap for food and
> can't drive or manage to keep out of the way at
> Costco. Screw him. I'm going with the baby
> killer instead.

Thanks for the conservative perspective. You have convicted me to vote for Chopra.

We should just elect a self-proclaimed tyrant. At least we'd know where we stood. All of this constitutional futzing around of Obama, Bulova, and the rest is just lies piled upon lies.

Both Hitler and Khrushchev made the trains run on time. Hell, nothing even works properly here.

Does he wear a dot, because I dont know about those dots

You Moron Wrote:
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> Straighter Answers Wrote:
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> -----
> > Here's a straight answer: he's a fricking
> Injun.
> > They rape little girls in India all day, every
> > day. Plus, they smell bad, eat crap for food
> and
> > can't drive or manage to keep out of the way at
> > Costco. Screw him. I'm going with the baby
> > killer instead.
>
> Thanks for the conservative perspective. You have
> convicted me to vote for Chopra.


Oh no! That's one vote for the Injun. This is Virginia dumbass. No Injun is going to win in a democrat or republican primary. Not enough of them. The baby killer's gonna win. The Injun has a funny sounding name.

Way to go from the conservative idiots on this board once again proving why we have to keep you idiots from taking power.

You accuse a candidate of being related to a drunk driver, which you could not be more wrong about.

You are racist bigots

You accuse him on spying on people

Whatever cry babies. Suck our dicks and enjoy losing every election till you get fed up and move to your conservative utopia of Pakistan, where people who are different can be lynched all you want.

Yagglerock Fraggler Wrote:
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> Wasn't his sister or cousin the chick who ran down
> people on the W&O trail?




HA! What's up with all these Chopras living in Virginia?

Sad GOP thread Wrote:
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> Way to go from the conservative idiots on this
> board once again proving why we have to keep you
> idiots from taking power.
>
> You accuse a candidate of being related to a drunk
> driver, which you could not be more wrong about.
>
> You are racist bigots
>
> You accuse him on spying on people
>
> Whatever cry babies. Suck our dicks and enjoy
> losing every election till you get fed up and move
> to your conservative utopia of Pakistan, where
> people who are different can be lynched all you
> want.


I remember the same stuff being said from the libbies 4 years ago. Then McDonnell wins by 19 and Cuccinelli by 18. We'll see.

You sure whine a lot for a someone who calls out crybabies. Fool

 
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eesh Wrote:
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> Yagglerock Fraggler Wrote:
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> > Wasn't his sister or cousin the chick who ran
> down
> > people on the W&O trail?
>
>
>
>
> HA! What's up with all these Chopras living in
> Virginia?


You mean Smiths don't ya.

Straight Answers Wrote:
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> Obviously, the NSA program was a top-secret
> program run by the NSA at Fort Meade, not an
> openly recognized government efficency and
> modernization program run by named, public admin
> managers at the White House. Only someone with no
> knowledge of computers or government would confuse
> the CTO of the federal government with the
> classified workers at NSA working on this Prism
> project.

Bullshit. Only someone who doesn't know what the CTO of the government is would make an idiotic statement like yours.

Did you know that the CTO is also the Associate Director of OSTP?

Further, do you know that one of the divisions within OSTP is the National Security and International Affairs division?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/ostp/divisions/natsecintaff

One of the functions of tha division is: Intelligence Capabilities: Apply S&T to help address the Nation’s most pressing intelligence challenges.

Are you contending Prism would not fall under this function?

You'll have to show us where it says that the CTO is the AD of the OSTP, I don't see that anywhere in the links you provided. Anyway, even if so then CTO > OSTP > NSIA > Intelligence Capabilities > Prism would be pretty far down in the chain, and it is highly unlikely that the CTO himself would carry out any direct tasks for a specific program like that. That is, even if you wear a tinfoil hat and think you're so important that the NSA is gathering intelligence on your porn browsing.

Your answers aren't so straight Wrote:
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> Straight Answers Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Obviously, the NSA program was a top-secret
> > program run by the NSA at Fort Meade, not an
> > openly recognized government efficency and
> > modernization program run by named, public
> admin
> > managers at the White House. Only someone with
> no
> > knowledge of computers or government would
> confuse
> > the CTO of the federal government with the
> > classified workers at NSA working on this Prism
> > project.
>
> Bullshit. Only someone who doesn't know what the
> CTO of the government is would make an idiotic
> statement like yours.
>
> Did you know that the CTO is also the Associate
> Director of OSTP?
>
> Further, do you know that one of the divisions
> within OSTP is the National Security and
> International Affairs division?
>
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/ostp/
> divisions/natsecintaff
>
> One of the functions of tha division is:
> Intelligence Capabilities: Apply S&T to help
> address the Nation’s most pressing intelligence
> challenges.
>
> Are you contending Prism would not fall under this
> function?

jxbN7 Wrote:
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> You'll have to show us where it says that the CTO
> is the AD of the OSTP, I don't see that anywhere
> in the links you provided.

Google too difficult for you?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/cto

> Anyway, even if so then
> CTO > OSTP > NSIA > Intelligence Capabilities >
> Prism would be pretty far down in the chain,

Not necessarily, particularly if you know how the NSTC is set up and how OSTP manages that function.

> and
> it is highly unlikely that the CTO himself would
> carry out any direct tasks for a specific program
> like that.

Perhaps not direct tasks, but it is plausible he was aware of the program and its capabilities. OSTP is a high level policy coordinator of government technology capabilities including intelligence activities.


> That is, even if you wear a tinfoil hat
> and think you're so important that the NSA is
> gathering intelligence on your porn browsing.

If I did, would I post here?

It is a legitimate question. There are a few former CIA folks at OSTP.

You don't have to be an ass just because you're anonymous. Don't expect me to Google every claim you make; you have to do the footwork yourself if you want to convince.

Anyway, http://www.whitehouse.gov/cto lists the CTO but doesn't explain his position within OSTP. It doesn't say that he's the AD.

Nevertheless, all I'm registering is a so what to the notion that Aneesh Chopra may have known about an NSA operation that was warranted and briefed to Congress. All these "scandals" have done little to show anything except that the federal agencies are diligently doing the jobs we have asked them to do.


But anyway,

Your answers aren't so straight Wrote:
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> jxbN7 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You'll have to show us where it says that the
> CTO
> > is the AD of the OSTP, I don't see that
> anywhere
> > in the links you provided.
>
> Google too difficult for you?
>
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/cto
>
> > Anyway, even if so then
> > CTO > OSTP > NSIA > Intelligence Capabilities >
> > Prism would be pretty far down in the chain,
>
> Not necessarily, particularly if you know how the
> NSTC is set up and how OSTP manages that
> function.
>
> > and
> > it is highly unlikely that the CTO himself
> would
> > carry out any direct tasks for a specific
> program
> > like that.
>
> Perhaps not direct tasks, but it is plausible he
> was aware of the program and its capabilities.
> OSTP is a high level policy coordinator of
> government technology capabilities including
> intelligence activities.
>
>
> > That is, even if you wear a tinfoil hat
> > and think you're so important that the NSA is
> > gathering intelligence on your porn browsing.
>
> If I did, would I post here?
>
> It is a legitimate question. There are a few
> former CIA folks at OSTP.

jxbN7 Wrote:
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> You don't have to be an ass just because you're
> anonymous. Don't expect me to Google every claim
> you make; you have to do the footwork yourself if
> you want to convince.

God forbid you want to educate yourself on an issue or a candidate. I am sure you would just prefer to absorb the talking points given to you.

> Anyway, http://www.whitehouse.gov/cto lists the
> CTO but doesn't explain his position within OSTP.
> It doesn't say that he's the AD.

I see that you need to be spoon fed everything.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/03/09/todd-park-named-new-us-chief-technology-officer

Your ignorance on the topic indicates you really have no business discussing it.

> Nevertheless, all I'm registering is a so what to
> the notion that Aneesh Chopra may have known about
> an NSA operation that was warranted and briefed to
> Congress. All these "scandals" have done little to
> show anything except that the federal agencies are
> diligently doing the jobs we have asked them to
> do.

I never asked them to keep a record of my call logs or geolocation information. In fact, I support Sen. Ron Wyden's legislation on geolocation information.

jxbN7 Wrote:
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> You'll have to show us where it says that the CTO
> is the AD of the OSTP, I don't see that anywhere
> in the links you provided. Anyway, even if so then
> CTO > OSTP > NSIA > Intelligence Capabilities >
> Prism would be pretty far down in the chain, and
> it is highly unlikely that the CTO himself would
> carry out any direct tasks for a specific program
> like that.


Ahhh, the Obama/Holder defense...

It's all so big how are we supposed to know what's going on?

lol

Indian CTO/CEOs are all useless bullshitters. All talk, zero work and they all try to sell the company the first chance they get, because deep down they know they are useless and have no real skill other than bullshitting. If Indians actually knew what they were doing, India wouldn't be do fucked up. Yeah, yeah, keep blaming the Britishers asswipe. What the British left India was awesome. It's only because useless Indians suck around the British legacy.

Chopra accomplished absolutely nothing as CTO other than to promote himself. He'd do the same in any other role. The only job he's qualified for is serving Slurpees at the Quick-E-Mart.

Failed CTO Wrote:
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> Chopra accomplished absolutely nothing as CTO
> other than to promote himself. He'd do the same
> in any other role. The only job he's qualified
> for is serving Slurpees at the Quick-E-Mart.


A perfect match for McAuliffe then. lol

Now that wasn't so hard, was it? So thanks for the proper link, and settled: Aneesh Chopra was Associate Director of Technology for OSTP.

I still don't understand why you think he should be faulted for doing his job. You'll have to explain yourself better next time.

Your answers aren't so straight Wrote:
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> jxbN7 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You don't have to be an ass just because you're
> > anonymous. Don't expect me to Google every
> claim
> > you make; you have to do the footwork yourself
> if
> > you want to convince.
>
> God forbid you want to educate yourself on an
> issue or a candidate. I am sure you would just
> prefer to absorb the talking points given to you.
>
> > Anyway, http://www.whitehouse.gov/cto lists the
> > CTO but doesn't explain his position within
> OSTP.
> > It doesn't say that he's the AD.
>
> I see that you need to be spoon fed everything.
>
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/03/09/todd-par
> k-named-new-us-chief-technology-officer
>
> Your ignorance on the topic indicates you really
> have no business discussing it.
>
> > Nevertheless, all I'm registering is a so what
> to
> > the notion that Aneesh Chopra may have known
> about
> > an NSA operation that was warranted and briefed
> to
> > Congress. All these "scandals" have done little
> to
> > show anything except that the federal agencies
> are
> > diligently doing the jobs we have asked them to
> > do.
>
> I never asked them to keep a record of my call
> logs or geolocation information. In fact, I
> support Sen. Ron Wyden's legislation on
> geolocation information.

jxbN7 Wrote:
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> Now that wasn't so hard, was it?

No, it wasn't which makes me wonder what other simple tasks you have difficulty accomplishing.

> So thanks for the
> proper link, and settled: Aneesh Chopra was
> Associate Director of Technology for OSTP.

It only took you two days to figure that out while the rest of the world picked up on it pretty quick.

> I still don't understand why you think he should
> be faulted for doing his job. You'll have to
> explain yourself better next time.

I want a Lt. Governor that cares about privacy rights and other civil liberties. You contend that Congress was briefed. Plenty of them were not briefed as evidenced by their concern. The author of the PATRIOT Act indicated that the law was being misused.

Anyway, at least you are abandoning the losing argument that he would not have information on the program.

Obama in his radio address from April 2009:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/09/04/18/Weekly-Address-Efficiency-and-Innovation

"Aneesh and Jeffrey will work closely with our Chief Information Officer, Vivek Kundra, who is responsible for setting technology policy across the government, and using technology to improve security."

Perhaps, Chopra was "just doing his job" but as a candidate for statewide office, he should tell the voters what his role was in relation to tracking the phone calls of innocent citizens of the state and the country. For someone that was in charge of transparency, he isn't being very transparent, now is he?

Oh, I get it now. The same Aneesh Chopra that was CTO of VA at the time VA purchased SAP and wasted $43 Million. Now, I know what you are going to say, Aneesh was gone by the time SAP was implemented. As CTO, your responsibilities would include evaluating technology, establishing the roadmap for implementation and ultimately procuring SAP. Now this isn't the first a CTO has failed to understand the limitations and difficulties of implementing a product such as SAP. It appears that Aneesh was smart enough to move on before things hit the ceiling. The procurement was under his watch and therefore, the fallout is the responsibility of the person that procured said tool.

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/890542/1208595.html#msg-1208595


Straight Answers Wrote:
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> Just to answer some of the questions here:
>
> The Virginia Senate does have a 20-20 split. The
> next state senate election is in 2015. Until then,
> the lieutenant governor has the deciding vote on
> just about anything where the two parties
> disagree.
>
> Chopra is a common last name, like Smith. There is
> no connection between the woman who ran her car
> onto a bike trail, whose last name is Chopra, and
> the Democratic primary candidate Aneesh Chopra.
>
> Chopra was never the CTO for Washington, DC. That
> was someone else. Instead, Chopra was the CTO for
> the state of Virginia under Governor Tim Kaine and
> was very successful.
>
> Chopra was also the first ever federal CTO,
> pioneering the position, and was very successful
> in that role as well. Look at any of the news
> stories around the time he stepped down for an
> assessment.
>
> Obviously, the NSA program was a top-secret
> program run by the NSA at Fort Meade, not an
> openly recognized government efficency and
> modernization program run by named, public admin
> managers at the White House. Only someone with no
> knowledge of computers or government would confuse
> the CTO of the federal government with the
> classified workers at NSA working on this Prism
> project.

The democrats should have nominated an real Asian. There's enough of them in VA to get one elected (NoVa and Tidewater area). The Injun will have no chance if nominated. Best to pick the baby killer. A white baby killer would be a much tougher opponent for the Cooch ticket than the Injun.

Key Moe Saub E Wrote:
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> The democrats should have nominated an real Asian.
> There's enough of them in VA to get one elected
> (NoVa and Tidewater area). The Injun will have no
> chance if nominated. Best to pick the baby
> killer. A white baby killer would be a much
> tougher opponent for the Cooch ticket than the
> Injun.


This had to be a tough one for the Libtards: baby killer or visible minority. Kind of like their choice back in 08: first woman president or first black president, well, half black at least.

Terry McAuliffe got the nomination solely because of the money he brings to the race. The consultants hired by the Dems salivated over their big payday.

Chopra lost because he tried to hang on to coattails like Connolly and Moran. Outside their districts, they are widely viewed as idiots.

Chopra's mistakes in the tech world played no role in the primary. Look for him to be appointed somewhere real soon.

" Outside their districts, they are widely viewed as idiots."

It's not just OUTSIDE their districts that they are viewed as idiots. Some of us in their districts already knew this to be a fact.