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Fairfax County submits transportation wish list
Posted by:
Sprawl and Crawl
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Date: May 16, 2013 09:26AM
Fairfax County submits transportation wish list
Transportation authority will make funding recommendations next week
by Kali Schumitz Staff writer
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20130515/NEWS/130519318/1117/fairfax-county-submits-transportation-wish-list&template=fairfaxTimes
Fairfax County has made its preliminary wish list of road and transit projects it hopes to fund with newly acquired state revenues.
The Northern Virginia Transportation Authority will make preliminary recommendations next week regarding which regional projects should receive funding from the new pool of money generated by the statewide transportation bill.
Submitted projects
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Road projects:
• Route 28 widening — Southbound from the Dulles Toll Road to Route 50 and northbound from McLearen Road to
Dulles Toll Road; $31.1 million
• Route 29 widening from Fairfax City to Legato Road; $7.5 million
• Preliminary engineering for Braddock Road HOV Widening; $10 million
• Engineering and design for Route 28 widening from Prince William County line to Route 29; $10 million
• Franconia/South Van Dorn interchange design; $20 million
Transit Projects
• West Ox bus facility constructio; $ 17 million
• Innovation Center Metro parking garage design; $10 million
• Herndon Metro parking garage design; $10 million
• Innovation Center Metrorail Station design and construction; $89 million
• 12 buses for Fairfax County Parkway bus service $6 million
• Lorton Virginia Railway Express (VRE) platform extension $7.9
Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) ceremonially signed the transportation bill in Richmond Monday, which is expected to generate about $4 billion for construction over the next six years.
The authority is anticipated to receive just under $200 million in fiscal 2014 but has received about $500 million in requests, according to Tom Biesiadny, director of the Fairfax County Department of Transportation.
Fairfax County is seeking funding for $79 million in road projects and $140 million in transit projects.
In deciding which projects to fund, NVTA will look at factors like congestion relief on a regional scale, balancing different modes of transportation, benefits to air quality and connecting regional activity centers, Biesiadny said.
The Board of Supervisors also voted to request $20 million in federal grant funding for the second phase of the Silver Line construction. The funding, if approved, would help pay for the Innovation Center station at Route 28.
The county was turned down for the grant in the past, but Biesiadny said he believes they have a better shot this time around.
“We believe that previously it wasn’t funded because it wasn’t as close to shovel-ready as other projects around the country,” he said. Now, with a construction contract awarded for the second phase of the rail line, the county may stand a better chance of receiving the grant.
The county is also requesting $89 million for Innovation Center from NVTA and $20 million for parking garages at two of the Phase II stations, something some county supervisors said they weren’t necessarily sold on.
Supervisors Michael Frey (R-Sully) and Pat Herrity (R-Springfield) said they wished the Board of Supervisors had more opportunity to review and discuss the list before sending it to NVTA.
County transportation staff generated the list based on the NVTA criteria as well as the county’s previously approved transportation plans.
“This is not the hand-selected list that I would have had,” said Supervisor Jeff McKay (D-Lee), chairman of the board’s transportation committee. “This is an attempt to take projects that meet the criteria and put them on the list for one year.”
There will be a longer time frame for evaluating project submissions in future years, he said, and ultimately it will be NVTA that decides what does and does not receive funding.
Photo by Michaele White
Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) ceremonially signed transportation bill in Richmond Monday, which is expected to generate about $4 billion for construction over the next six years.
Attachments:
Transportation authority will make funding recommendations next week
by Kali Schumitz Staff writer
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20130515/NEWS/130519318/1117/fairfax-county-submits-transportation-wish-list&template=fairfaxTimes
Fairfax County has made its preliminary wish list of road and transit projects it hopes to fund with newly acquired state revenues.
The Northern Virginia Transportation Authority will make preliminary recommendations next week regarding which regional projects should receive funding from the new pool of money generated by the statewide transportation bill.
Submitted projects
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Road projects:
• Route 28 widening — Southbound from the Dulles Toll Road to Route 50 and northbound from McLearen Road to
Dulles Toll Road; $31.1 million
• Route 29 widening from Fairfax City to Legato Road; $7.5 million
• Preliminary engineering for Braddock Road HOV Widening; $10 million
• Engineering and design for Route 28 widening from Prince William County line to Route 29; $10 million
• Franconia/South Van Dorn interchange design; $20 million
Transit Projects
• West Ox bus facility constructio; $ 17 million
• Innovation Center Metro parking garage design; $10 million
• Herndon Metro parking garage design; $10 million
• Innovation Center Metrorail Station design and construction; $89 million
• 12 buses for Fairfax County Parkway bus service $6 million
• Lorton Virginia Railway Express (VRE) platform extension $7.9
Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) ceremonially signed the transportation bill in Richmond Monday, which is expected to generate about $4 billion for construction over the next six years.
The authority is anticipated to receive just under $200 million in fiscal 2014 but has received about $500 million in requests, according to Tom Biesiadny, director of the Fairfax County Department of Transportation.
Fairfax County is seeking funding for $79 million in road projects and $140 million in transit projects.
In deciding which projects to fund, NVTA will look at factors like congestion relief on a regional scale, balancing different modes of transportation, benefits to air quality and connecting regional activity centers, Biesiadny said.
The Board of Supervisors also voted to request $20 million in federal grant funding for the second phase of the Silver Line construction. The funding, if approved, would help pay for the Innovation Center station at Route 28.
The county was turned down for the grant in the past, but Biesiadny said he believes they have a better shot this time around.
“We believe that previously it wasn’t funded because it wasn’t as close to shovel-ready as other projects around the country,” he said. Now, with a construction contract awarded for the second phase of the rail line, the county may stand a better chance of receiving the grant.
The county is also requesting $89 million for Innovation Center from NVTA and $20 million for parking garages at two of the Phase II stations, something some county supervisors said they weren’t necessarily sold on.
Supervisors Michael Frey (R-Sully) and Pat Herrity (R-Springfield) said they wished the Board of Supervisors had more opportunity to review and discuss the list before sending it to NVTA.
County transportation staff generated the list based on the NVTA criteria as well as the county’s previously approved transportation plans.
“This is not the hand-selected list that I would have had,” said Supervisor Jeff McKay (D-Lee), chairman of the board’s transportation committee. “This is an attempt to take projects that meet the criteria and put them on the list for one year.”
There will be a longer time frame for evaluating project submissions in future years, he said, and ultimately it will be NVTA that decides what does and does not receive funding.
Photo by Michaele White
Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) ceremonially signed transportation bill in Richmond Monday, which is expected to generate about $4 billion for construction over the next six years.
Attachments:
Re: Fairfax County submits transportation wish list
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Good!!!!
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Date: May 16, 2013 09:51AM
These all sound pretty good.
Re: Fairfax County submits transportation wish list
Posted by:
1995hoo
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Date: May 16, 2013 10:08AM
The interchange at Van Dorn and Franconia is nice in theory if done properly, but it won't solve the real problem in the mornings, which is the backup on the Alexandria part of Van Dorn up to Pickett Street. Several problems through there:
(1) Van Dorn narrows to two lanes at the Beltway.
(2) Assholes drive down the left-turn lane to the Beltway and then try to shove across the striped area into the thru lanes. Worse, some other assholes are all to happy to let them do it, which just encourages them to do it again.
(3) Left-turn lane to the industrial area at the bottom of the hill near the train tracks (Farrington Avenue) is too short for large trucks, but it can't be extended due to the support pillar for the Metrorail overpass.
(4) Traffic going from southbound Van Dorn to eastbound Eisenhower is allowed to make a left turn at the light. There is no reason to allow this because there is a loop-around ramp on the right that takes you around the other side of the townhouses to meet Eisenhower by the Metro station. Getting rid of the left-turn cycle would decrease the red light time for northbound Van Dorn traffic.
(5) Eastbound Eisenhower to southbound Van Dorn could be changed in the same way as #4, but it might not work as well because it would introduce the problem of merging onto Van Dorn in a short amount of space.
(6) The light at the asphalt company (Courtney Avenue) sometimes cycles even when the industrial property is closed or when nobody is coming out of there. It ought to be a trip signal that activates on demand only.
(7) There is no right-turn lane from northbound Van Dorn to Pickett Street, meaning people turning right have to slow to a crawl to get around the corner, holding up the thru traffic; also, there's always somebody going straight, so people can't really go right on red there. Adding a right-turn lane might require a bit of regrading, but it wouldn't be a huge project.
In other words, the interchange at Van Dorn and Franconia will just speed the progress of people headed into the existing backup. I live in Kingstowne and it's not that unusual for it to take half an hour in the morning to go from that intersection to the Van Dorn Metro (so we don't bother; we go to Springfield instead).
On the southbound side, I'd be happy to see the intersection replaced because there are so many morons who can't figure out how the lanes work and who try to go straight out of the left-turn lanes or who drive in the left lane and want to go right. (As to the first of these, VDOT is partly at fault: There's no sign on the LEFT warning that the left lane becomes left-turn-only. As to the second, it's typical Virginia driver dumbassedness.) On the other hand, I wonder if we'd soon start seeing people doing 70 mph under the new overpass. That's a problem with the 35-mph zone in Kingstowne that leads up to a traffic light at the next intersection to the south.
(1) Van Dorn narrows to two lanes at the Beltway.
(2) Assholes drive down the left-turn lane to the Beltway and then try to shove across the striped area into the thru lanes. Worse, some other assholes are all to happy to let them do it, which just encourages them to do it again.
(3) Left-turn lane to the industrial area at the bottom of the hill near the train tracks (Farrington Avenue) is too short for large trucks, but it can't be extended due to the support pillar for the Metrorail overpass.
(4) Traffic going from southbound Van Dorn to eastbound Eisenhower is allowed to make a left turn at the light. There is no reason to allow this because there is a loop-around ramp on the right that takes you around the other side of the townhouses to meet Eisenhower by the Metro station. Getting rid of the left-turn cycle would decrease the red light time for northbound Van Dorn traffic.
(5) Eastbound Eisenhower to southbound Van Dorn could be changed in the same way as #4, but it might not work as well because it would introduce the problem of merging onto Van Dorn in a short amount of space.
(6) The light at the asphalt company (Courtney Avenue) sometimes cycles even when the industrial property is closed or when nobody is coming out of there. It ought to be a trip signal that activates on demand only.
(7) There is no right-turn lane from northbound Van Dorn to Pickett Street, meaning people turning right have to slow to a crawl to get around the corner, holding up the thru traffic; also, there's always somebody going straight, so people can't really go right on red there. Adding a right-turn lane might require a bit of regrading, but it wouldn't be a huge project.
In other words, the interchange at Van Dorn and Franconia will just speed the progress of people headed into the existing backup. I live in Kingstowne and it's not that unusual for it to take half an hour in the morning to go from that intersection to the Van Dorn Metro (so we don't bother; we go to Springfield instead).
On the southbound side, I'd be happy to see the intersection replaced because there are so many morons who can't figure out how the lanes work and who try to go straight out of the left-turn lanes or who drive in the left lane and want to go right. (As to the first of these, VDOT is partly at fault: There's no sign on the LEFT warning that the left lane becomes left-turn-only. As to the second, it's typical Virginia driver dumbassedness.) On the other hand, I wonder if we'd soon start seeing people doing 70 mph under the new overpass. That's a problem with the 35-mph zone in Kingstowne that leads up to a traffic light at the next intersection to the south.
Re: Fairfax County submits transportation wish list
Posted by:
Section 8 Sharon B.
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Date: May 17, 2013 09:40PM
We need free limo service to transport our beloved undocumented immigrants from their taxpayer-funded luxury housing units to their free medical appointments. I hope this gets top priority in the list.
Re: Fairfax County submits transportation wish list
Posted by:
snowdenscold
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Date: May 19, 2013 12:10AM
Does 28 southbound between DTR and Route 50 actually need another lane? I've never noticed that to be one of the bad spots. I can think of better uses for that money on 28, specifically throwing it all at the area near I-66. I know that's supposed to be a big future project, but can't they at least use this money for Phase 1 or 0.5 or something?
Re: Fairfax County submits transportation wish list
Posted by:
WestfieldDad
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Date: May 19, 2013 03:07PM
snowdenscold Wrote:
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> Does 28 southbound between DTR and Route 50
> actually need another lane? I've never noticed
> that to be one of the bad spots. I can think of
> better uses for that money on 28, specifically
> throwing it all at the area near I-66. I know
> that's supposed to be a big future project, but
> can't they at least use this money for Phase 1 or
> 0.5 or something?
Today, the additional lane isn't needed. But, with the Metro coming to Rt 28, the empty land between McLearn and Fox Mill, and the new 3 letter campus at Wall Road, it won't take long.
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> Does 28 southbound between DTR and Route 50
> actually need another lane? I've never noticed
> that to be one of the bad spots. I can think of
> better uses for that money on 28, specifically
> throwing it all at the area near I-66. I know
> that's supposed to be a big future project, but
> can't they at least use this money for Phase 1 or
> 0.5 or something?
Today, the additional lane isn't needed. But, with the Metro coming to Rt 28, the empty land between McLearn and Fox Mill, and the new 3 letter campus at Wall Road, it won't take long.
Re: Fairfax County submits transportation wish list
Posted by:
more
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Date: May 19, 2013 03:31PM
Section 8 Sharon B. Wrote:
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> We need free limo service to transport our beloved
> undocumented immigrants from their taxpayer-funded
> luxury housing units to their free medical
> appointments. I hope this gets top priority in
> the list.
don't forget to include the free breakfast, lunch and snack that the kids need from the school system
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> We need free limo service to transport our beloved
> undocumented immigrants from their taxpayer-funded
> luxury housing units to their free medical
> appointments. I hope this gets top priority in
> the list.
don't forget to include the free breakfast, lunch and snack that the kids need from the school system
Re: Fairfax County submits transportation wish list
Posted by:
Tysons Engineer
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Date: May 19, 2013 03:38PM
Section 8 Sharon B. Wrote:
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> We need free limo service to transport our beloved
> undocumented immigrants from their taxpayer-funded
> luxury housing units to their free medical
> appointments. I hope this gets top priority in
> the list.
More money was spent on a free coal road for the coal freight industry (something they could have paid for instead) in Southwest Virginia than has been spent for the past decade on all affordable housing in Northern Virginia at nearly $1.5 billion.
But yea, you have your priorities right when it comes to government waste *eye roll*
If you are gonna complain about government spending waste, don't be a hypocritical ass; blame both parties because honestly when it comes to pet projects and waste it only changes who the welfare goes to, not that the welfare will go away.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/19/2013 03:39PM by Tysons Engineer.
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> We need free limo service to transport our beloved
> undocumented immigrants from their taxpayer-funded
> luxury housing units to their free medical
> appointments. I hope this gets top priority in
> the list.
More money was spent on a free coal road for the coal freight industry (something they could have paid for instead) in Southwest Virginia than has been spent for the past decade on all affordable housing in Northern Virginia at nearly $1.5 billion.
But yea, you have your priorities right when it comes to government waste *eye roll*
If you are gonna complain about government spending waste, don't be a hypocritical ass; blame both parties because honestly when it comes to pet projects and waste it only changes who the welfare goes to, not that the welfare will go away.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/19/2013 03:39PM by Tysons Engineer.
Re: Fairfax County submits transportation wish list
Posted by:
oops
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Date: May 19, 2013 04:00PM
Tysons Engineer Wrote:
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> Section 8 Sharon B. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > We need free limo service to transport our
> beloved
> > undocumented immigrants from their
> taxpayer-funded
> > luxury housing units to their free medical
> > appointments. I hope this gets top priority in
> > the list.
>
>
> More money was spent on a free coal road for the
> coal freight industry (something they could have
> paid for instead) in Southwest Virginia than has
> been spent for the past decade on all affordable
> housing in Northern Virginia at nearly $1.5
> billion.
>
> But yea, you have your priorities right when it
> comes to government waste *eye roll*
>
> If you are gonna complain about government
> spending waste, don't be a hypocritical ass; blame
> both parties because honestly when it comes to pet
> projects and waste it only changes who the welfare
> goes to, not that the welfare will go away.
oops, wasn't aiming at ms. bulova. in general, disgusted with govt waste of taxpayer funding. pet projects, lack of accounting, officials in high positions who lack mental bandwidth to understand system flaws, lazy govt workers all contribute. there are many hard working govt employees and they are exhausted trying to keep things going while surrounded by incompetent people and processs. raising taxes to fund infrastructure and pay teachers should be a priorty. raising taxes to provide more handouts to illegals should not be.
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> Section 8 Sharon B. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > We need free limo service to transport our
> beloved
> > undocumented immigrants from their
> taxpayer-funded
> > luxury housing units to their free medical
> > appointments. I hope this gets top priority in
> > the list.
>
>
> More money was spent on a free coal road for the
> coal freight industry (something they could have
> paid for instead) in Southwest Virginia than has
> been spent for the past decade on all affordable
> housing in Northern Virginia at nearly $1.5
> billion.
>
> But yea, you have your priorities right when it
> comes to government waste *eye roll*
>
> If you are gonna complain about government
> spending waste, don't be a hypocritical ass; blame
> both parties because honestly when it comes to pet
> projects and waste it only changes who the welfare
> goes to, not that the welfare will go away.
oops, wasn't aiming at ms. bulova. in general, disgusted with govt waste of taxpayer funding. pet projects, lack of accounting, officials in high positions who lack mental bandwidth to understand system flaws, lazy govt workers all contribute. there are many hard working govt employees and they are exhausted trying to keep things going while surrounded by incompetent people and processs. raising taxes to fund infrastructure and pay teachers should be a priorty. raising taxes to provide more handouts to illegals should not be.
Re: Fairfax County submits transportation wish list
Posted by:
oops
()
Date: May 19, 2013 04:00PM
Tysons Engineer Wrote:
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> Section 8 Sharon B. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > We need free limo service to transport our
> beloved
> > undocumented immigrants from their
> taxpayer-funded
> > luxury housing units to their free medical
> > appointments. I hope this gets top priority in
> > the list.
>
>
> More money was spent on a free coal road for the
> coal freight industry (something they could have
> paid for instead) in Southwest Virginia than has
> been spent for the past decade on all affordable
> housing in Northern Virginia at nearly $1.5
> billion.
>
> But yea, you have your priorities right when it
> comes to government waste *eye roll*
>
> If you are gonna complain about government
> spending waste, don't be a hypocritical ass; blame
> both parties because honestly when it comes to pet
> projects and waste it only changes who the welfare
> goes to, not that the welfare will go away.
oops, wasn't aiming at ms. bulova. in general, disgusted with govt waste of taxpayer funding. pet projects, lack of accounting, officials in high positions who lack mental bandwidth to understand system flaws, lazy govt workers all contribute. there are many hard working govt employees and they are exhausted trying to keep things going while surrounded by incompetent people and processs. raising taxes to fund infrastructure and pay teachers should be a priorty. raising taxes to provide more handouts to illegals should not be.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Section 8 Sharon B. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > We need free limo service to transport our
> beloved
> > undocumented immigrants from their
> taxpayer-funded
> > luxury housing units to their free medical
> > appointments. I hope this gets top priority in
> > the list.
>
>
> More money was spent on a free coal road for the
> coal freight industry (something they could have
> paid for instead) in Southwest Virginia than has
> been spent for the past decade on all affordable
> housing in Northern Virginia at nearly $1.5
> billion.
>
> But yea, you have your priorities right when it
> comes to government waste *eye roll*
>
> If you are gonna complain about government
> spending waste, don't be a hypocritical ass; blame
> both parties because honestly when it comes to pet
> projects and waste it only changes who the welfare
> goes to, not that the welfare will go away.
oops, wasn't aiming at ms. bulova. in general, disgusted with govt waste of taxpayer funding. pet projects, lack of accounting, officials in high positions who lack mental bandwidth to understand system flaws, lazy govt workers all contribute. there are many hard working govt employees and they are exhausted trying to keep things going while surrounded by incompetent people and processs. raising taxes to fund infrastructure and pay teachers should be a priorty. raising taxes to provide more handouts to illegals should not be.