I recently learned that the West Springfield High School boys who were convicted in the illegal taping of girls performing sexual acts are STILL playing varsity soccer for WSHS. I am wondering if WSHS has an Athlete Code of Conduct and if so, does it support convicted felons taking the field to represent your school? Does your Coach have no spine whatsoever? How could he possible let convicted felons take the field??? Is your Athletic Director incapable of enforcing a bare minimum code of conduct in your athletes? Why are these boys STILL representing WSHS? It is a disgusting display of cowardice within your athletic department that these boys are allowed to put on a WSHS uniform.

Amen! What is wrong with the Fairfax County School system and WSHS's Athletic Dept? It is embarrassing and a disgrace to that school to allow those boys to participate in ANY sport after being convicted of a crime. Sickening and Pathetic. Are you that desperate for decent soccer players? It is a privilege to participate in a high school sport not an entitlement. These boys need to follow the same rules as every other student at that school. Why is WSHS bending the rules for them?

Queen15001 Wrote:
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> I recently learned that the West Springfield High
> School boys who were convicted in the illegal
> taping of girls performing sexual acts are STILL
> playing varsity soccer for WSHS. I am wondering
> if WSHS has an Athlete Code of Conduct and if so,
> does it support convicted felons taking the field
> to represent your school? Does your Coach have no
> spine whatsoever? How could he possible let
> convicted felons take the field??? Is your
> Athletic Director incapable of enforcing a bare
> minimum code of conduct in your athletes? Why are
> these boys STILL representing WSHS? It is a
> disgusting display of cowardice within your
> athletic department that these boys are allowed to
> put on a WSHS uniform.

I believe the Code of Conduct states that it only counts if you bone the girl up the ass WHILE videotaping her.

How about code of conduct for parents??

I was at last week's V. baseball game between WSHS and LBHS. Spartans got their a$$es handed to them. Throughout the whole game, one of the players mom, Mrs. Meinhoffer, kept running her mouth to her husband about how great of a player her son is. But, is getting overlooked by college scouts because he plays for a mediocre team.

Does she not realize her loud and obnoxious voice carries throughout? It was so annoying that I actually moved farther away from where she was sitting!

Queen15001 Wrote:
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> I recently learned that the West Springfield High
> School boys who were convicted in the illegal
> taping of girls performing sexual acts are STILL
> playing varsity soccer for WSHS. I am wondering
> if WSHS has an Athlete Code of Conduct and if so,
> does it support convicted felons taking the field
> to represent your school? Does your Coach have no
> spine whatsoever? How could he possible let
> convicted felons take the field??? Is your
> Athletic Director incapable of enforcing a bare
> minimum code of conduct in your athletes? Why are
> these boys STILL representing WSHS? It is a
> disgusting display of cowardice within your
> athletic department that these boys are allowed to
> put on a WSHS uniform.


Anyone in FCPS that participates in any extracurricular activity must sign a “Participation Pledge” found at:
http://www.fcps.edu/supt/activities/athletics/docs/participation.pdf. Note the parent(s) must also sign.

I scanned it briefly and did not find that production/distribution of child porn, consensual sex amongst minors or a felony conviction was prohibited conduct. However since alcohol was involved, assuming it was a first offense, they should have been suspended for 30 days from all activities. Since this incident happened a while ago, they could have served that suspension during the winter season – even if they were not involved in a winter sport.

All, although there was a lot of info over those boys, they were not convicted. Apparently the fact that the girls talked directly to the cameras and the oldest individual in all of it was a girl who was 17, kind of killed the issue. Also, it was not on school grounds. So, yes they still get the same opportunities as everyone else as distasteful as the whole situation was.

WSHS is not the only school where star athletes are untouchable. Lake Braddock has its share of dirty little secrets as, I'm sure, every high school in this area does. It's sort of a chicken-egg scenario. Parents complain if their kids are not on a winning team, but winning often requires the coaches to play certain kids no matter what egregious acts they've committed. Hence, the stars know they have immunity and continue to drink, smoke, whatever. Until parents and principals make good character a priority over winning, this crap will continue.

At the same time, kids do stupid things. Sometimes, though not in the WSHS case, suspension is overly harsh (probably why it's ignored). But why coaches won't bench a player on their own sometimes when they know full well what the kid is up to, I'll never understand. Good, old-fashioned consequences that hit home with the kid seem to have gone out the window.

Actually they were convicted of a lessor charge associated with filming without consent. Sentencing is in June.

Well said!! I couldn't agree with you more.

Bench 'em Wrote:
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> WSHS is not the only school where star athletes
> are untouchable. Lake Braddock has its share of
> dirty little secrets as, I'm sure, every high
> school in this area does. It's sort of a
> chicken-egg scenario. Parents complain if their
> kids are not on a winning team, but winning often
> requires the coaches to play certain kids no
> matter what egregious acts they've committed.
> Hence, the stars know they have immunity and
> continue to drink, smoke, whatever. Until parents
> and principals make good character a priority over
> winning, this crap will continue.
>
> At the same time, kids do stupid things.
> Sometimes, though not in the WSHS case, suspension
> is overly harsh (probably why it's ignored). But
> why coaches won't bench a player on their own
> sometimes when they know full well what the kid is
> up to, I'll never understand. Good, old-fashioned
> consequences that hit home with the kid seem to
> have gone out the window.


It is not the coaches’ job to discipline players for this kind of conduct, this is the job of the DSA (via the Participation Pledge – which would have been 30 days as explained above) and/or the principal via FCPS disciplinary rules. In today’s entitled environment, a coach who takes action on these types of offenses will be called on the carpet and made to be miserable. Coaches have enough crap to put up with from whiney parents, don’t put this on them!

Oh, BTW the girls should also have been suspended from all extracurricular activities for 30 days since they were obviously drinking. Anyone know if this happened?

Re Bench275's comments about a parent lamenting her son who is not noticed by virtue of playing on a mediocre team, there is almost zero chance that an athlete with real talent in today's environment will remained un-noticed. There are certainly athletes who develop at a later rate than others, but the likelihood of being under the radar is exceedingly low. Players typically think they are better than they are. Parents who blow smoke don't help.

What happened at West Springfield is certainly a case for the AD and Principal. That's not what I'm talking about. When the coach has enough info to send a letter to parents saying, in essence, I know your kids are up to no good so don't be naive, but then himself starts those kids so he gets the win, he is doing something...just not the right thing. He is the manager of his team, and can set the standards e.g. you skip class, you sit one game. To say coaches are too busy is nothing more than the standard copy out; everyone points fingers and no one takes responsibility. Then we wonder why kids show disrespect and disregard the rules. The system is broken.

I like that there are only 2 people maaaaybe 3 participating in this. The first two posts are the same person and IP address. The sentence structure, vocabulary, and so on. The same person then comments 4 more times with different post names.

hddhdhk Wrote:
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> I like that there are only 2 people maaaaybe 3
> participating in this. The first two posts are the
> same person and IP address. The sentence
> structure, vocabulary, and so on. The same person
> then comments 4 more times with different post
> names.


Dude, you have no idea what their ip address is, so stop lying like the fuckwad you are.

I played soccer at Robinson in the 80's and we were allowed to use tobacco. I would dip scoal in front of coach ater games on team bus. No big deal back then. Everyone did it.