I just re-upped my NRA membership for 5 years.

Z Wrote:
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> I just re-upped my NRA membership for 5 years.

Why not a lifetime membership? If you believe in a cause you dedicate your life. So unAmerican.

Why do conservative gun nuts follow a draft dodger?
Wayne talks it but definitely didn't walk it.
"the only way you stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun".
I guess Wayne didn't think he was good.

Folks, this is all a bunch of mental mastrubation.

Did you hear President Obama say that in just 2 months since the Sandy Hook massacre, 1,000 MORE innocent people have been killed? How much more time are you willing to waste?

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. once said that a person starts to die the day they decide to stop speaking out on things that matter.

When are you people going to stand up the NRA and be counted? Or are they right that anyone who doesn't own (and get off on) guns is just a p_ _y?

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> Did you hear President Obama say that in just 2
> months since the Sandy Hook massacre, 1,000 MORE
> innocent people have been killed? How much more
> time are you willing to waste?

Like you he left out that the vast majority of it is gang violence and that the majority of them are also in inner cities where guns are already banned. In fact you can attribute most of that to Chicago alone.

> When are you people going to stand up the NRA and
> be counted? Or are they right that anyone who
> doesn't own (and get off on) guns is just a p_ _y?

Stand up to what?

When you are going to realize the constitution isnt something you pick and choose from.

Furthermore not a single one of you has yet to show how banning guns would solve anything. You can go back and read my old posts outlining facts and why crime happens. Yet anti gun folks just come in with emotional arguments and bail as soon as facts are brought up

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> I had a feeling he was going to go hard left once
> he didnt have to win reelection again. His old
> speeches and associations were to far left for
> someone who wants to lead as centrist.

Well, my distaste for Romney was a factor as well. It wasn't so much that he was a bad choice-he wasn't. He just made a series of remarks (such as the 47% remark) that made me question whether this man would be worth supporting. Nearly half (23%) of the people he mentioned in the 47% remark do pay taxes. Just they make so little that they don't qualify for income tax.

> All of the dealers have to do background checks,
> there may be shady dealers around the country like
> there are for anything but Ive yet to see one. It
> wouldnt take long either for them to get shutdown
> since word would spread if they did it on a large
> basis, but I agree theres always some bad apples
> in there.

Good dealers do background checks. If the ATF comes in and finds you aren't... it's not going to be pretty.

> Lol your springfield made me think of the old wars
> where they all lined up to shoot and even then
> half the shots would still miss. Now that was
> insane people did that. I would have ducked as
> soon as I saw them getting ready to fire.

The idea was victory through superior firepower. We have a similar idea today, just ours is a little more well thought out and doesn't involve standing in long lines. Also, the musket balls were the least of your worries. The lines usually had cavalry and artillery supporting them. The Patriot was a terrible movie, but the battle scene at the end was reasonably accurate.

> Or if you put a pistol grip on a bolt action all
> of a sudden its an assault rifle, I dont
> understand the confusion about how largely
> cosmetic things are the difference. They may make
> a bit of a difference shooting from 100+ yards,
> but the shootings theyre supposedly trying to
> prevent those features have no impact on how
> lethal they are.

It's the difference because the term "assault weapon" is a political invention. No manufacturer calls them that. They call "assault weapons" what they are. They're semi-automatic rifles. Much like the ones used by target shooters, hunters, etc. Wait, that's another inconvenient truth.

> I dont think they have any plans to stop with
> assault rifles, thats just step one. They see an
> opportunity to get rid of them and then will
> slowly go after everything else knowing they could
> never get a total gun ban without civil war.

Thank God for the Supreme Court. Sometimes it does stupid things. Hopefully, it'll uphold our rights.

> Dont forget Chris Mattews being happy Sandy
> happened because it helped the president.
> But youre right he couldnt care less about what
> the GOP had to say and still really doesnt.
> Bipartisan has somehow morphed to mean everyone
> should agree with me.

Those Republican Senators filibustering Hagel have some balls. They are everything our political system needs. I don't agree with them on several things, but those guys are standing up for principles, rather than going with Obama's flow.

> Its not an awful idea on its own. On a very small
> monitored scale I can see the logic. On a large
> scale though you had to know it was going to get
> out of control like most of them did. What really
> makes me wonder is what the goal of it really was,
> the whole time all we heard about was how american
> guns were killing in mexico. I really hope its
> goal wasnt to blame deaths in mexico on us guns to
> get them banned.

I don't think it was. The goal was really to get cartel leaders arrested. The idea of American guns being responsible was a byproduct. American weapons are responsible for a lot of things. We are one of the world's largest arms dealers, like it or not. T

> I dont believe for a second that the cartels would
> have had trouble getting guns without the
> programs, but I dont like the coverup of what they
> were doing or the attempt to blame the gun stores
> at first. Not to mention I dont really want to be
> lectured about how assault rifles are too
> dangerous for me to own but its okay for the
> mexican cartels.

The Mexican cartels are more dangerous than 100 Adam Lanzas with 1000 rounds each. The Mexican government has been beating the hell out of them recently, but that's only because the ex-president used the army, rather than rely on the corrupt police force. The reasoning behind the power of the drug cartels is very complex. There have been studies conducted on it. The answer is somewhere in between a salutary neglect for a long time and the campaign contributions to the PRI (a major Mexican political party).

> Well didnt you hear the debates we have these
> ships that go underwater now apparently a handful
> of them is all we need and they never need repairs
> or to be replaced. Yet at the same time we want
> women on submarines too which will drive up the
> cost of their operation makes a lot of sense.
> Why should defense be the first thing cut anyway.
> We send so much BS aid around the world and spend
> money on some of the dumbest studies at
> universities that you could ever think of yet we
> cant find waste anywhere else to start?

Defense is the easiest thing to cut. It's discretionary, unlike Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. It's the largest discretionary item on our agenda. The submarines are limited. You can't land troops from a submarine. You can't patrol the world with submarines. Yes, they can go underwater and stay under for a long time. They're not fleet vessels. We need more surface vessels. Women won't come onto submarines. The Navy will never allow it. Women have been included in combat, which I thought was a massive mistake.

> This may change with Steve Jobs gone, but when he
> was in charge they were the 300 pound gorilla when
> it came to corporations. Outside of oil no one
> may have had money cash on hand or better profits
> and they might have even given those a run for
> their money at their peak.

Nobody since the robber barons and the heyday of Big Oil has had better profit margins than Apple. For some reason, however, Apple always avoids the corporate giant tag. It's lunacy, Apple is just as malignant (if not moreso) as Exxon-Mobil or Dutch Royal Shell. Google is horrible as well, but people tend to ignore that for convenience.

> Its just more do as I say not as I do. The same
> people constantly referencing the first amendment
> were the first upset that the owner of a private
> company used his. Boycotting over something like
> that really is stupid, if you had to agree
> politically with the higher ups to use a company
> you couldnt buy anything from anywhere. Not to
> mentioned it backfired big time and gave them
> record sales. People just heard chick fil a all
> the time and craved it because it is delicious.

Hipster liberal crap. They love it now, because they haven't had to spend time in the real world, doing something called work. Working as a barista is not an actual job for anyone over the age of 25. Nor is whatever else they do. The whole "organic foods" junket is a lot of nonsense as well. Everyone is liberal until he/she has to work. Then you become more moderate.

> It really was kind of the perfect picture of
> everything thats wrong with todays society. Dont
> like something, whine about it then get violent
> when that doesnt work. Meanwhile the camping out
> is just a big party and hurting businesses in the
> area.

This is my issue with this generation, which I'm a part of, for the record. We seem to believe that complaining makes things better. We don't take action. I was always taught to fix things on my own, or to figure out how they could be fixed. Not to keep bitching and then erect a shantytown to protest something. The solutions are pretty damn simple: go over to Uganda and capture him yourself. But that would involve actual action for a lot of these people. God knows they can't leave the coffee shop.

> I think its largely just how sheltered hes been by
> the media. If he was a white man he would have
> never won/survived the primaries much less the
> general election. That to me tells me hes not
> qualified. Being for someone just because of
> their race is still racism. I would have much
> rather had Hillary than him and it scares me that
> Biden is a heartbeat away from the presidency.

Biden's main function is comic relief. He's still better qualified than Barack Obama. He may attempt to run in 2016, and if Hillary doesn't run, he may get the nomination.

> Which sadly has been his only real significant
> foreign policy contribution to date.

That and impugning Israel at every turn.

> He did bring up some solid problems when he got
> through the fair share, global warming, and the
> other talking point bs. And the bs about how you
> cant cut to a balanced budget, actually you can.
> You cant tax your way into a balanced budget with
> how much we spend.

You can cut and tax your way to a balanced budget. It's very tough to cut your way to a balanced budget, unless entitlements are fundamentally altered. You can hypothetically tax your way to a balanced budget, but it would require a higher tax rate. A much higher tax rate.

> But I agree no real solutions. Like for the
> failing bridges sounded like a more of those
> shovel ready jobs. I was under the impression
> thats what the last trillion was supposed to be
> for. If were going to spend the money thats a
> good place to put it but honestly how much does he
> plan to spend.

Infrastructure needs to be addressed. Rather than the stimulus, Obama would've been wise to use FDR's New Deal policies and create another CCC and WPA organization. Obama's grasp on history is... lacking. That often affects his ability to make decisions.

> Seemed a lot of the same old where we know what
> the problems are but he has no idea how to address
> the issues or the consequences of what hes asking.
> Like not using any gas in the next 20 years good
> luck with that.

In five years, we're going to be energy independent. Just look at what fracking and oil sands can do for us. Obama needs to get on the train, because we need to make oil last as long as we can. Other sources of energy simply aren't ready yet. I would propose a minimum MPG standard of 20 MPG, which would at least delay the inevitable.

Paper Targets Wrote:
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> Why do conservative gun nuts follow a draft
> dodger?
> Wayne talks it but definitely didn't walk it.
> "the only way you stop a bad guy with a gun is a
> good guy with a gun".
> I guess Wayne didn't think he was good.

Conservative draft dodgers.
Dick Chaney should be the poster boy for the NRA.
Draft Dodger, convicted for DWI(2) and likes to shoot his friends.

What did you do during the war? Wrote:
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>
> Conservative draft dodgers.
> Dick Chaney should be the poster boy for the NRA.
> Draft Dodger, convicted for DWI(2) and likes to
> shoot his friends.


I killed babies with drones.

What did you do during the war? Wrote:
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> Paper Targets Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why do conservative gun nuts follow a draft
> > dodger?
> > Wayne talks it but definitely didn't walk it.
> > "the only way you stop a bad guy with a gun is
> a
> > good guy with a gun".
> > I guess Wayne didn't think he was good.
>
> Conservative draft dodgers.
> Dick Chaney should be the poster boy for the NRA.
> Draft Dodger, convicted for DWI(2) and likes to
> shoot his friends.

I know what you mean, and his sidekick Bush was a draft dodger, too. Both draft dodgers, and when the minority of American voters get them elected to national office, they promptly fall asleep on the watch and then Al-Qaida strikes.

Berdhuis Wrote:
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> What did you do during the war? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Paper Targets Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Why do conservative gun nuts follow a draft
> > > dodger?
> > > Wayne talks it but definitely didn't walk it.
> > > "the only way you stop a bad guy with a gun
> is
> > a
> > > good guy with a gun".
> > > I guess Wayne didn't think he was good.
> >
> > Conservative draft dodgers.
> > Dick Chaney should be the poster boy for the
> NRA.
> > Draft Dodger, convicted for DWI(2) and likes to
> > shoot his friends.
>
> I know what you mean, and his sidekick Bush was a
> draft dodger, too. Both draft dodgers, and when
> the minority of American voters get them elected
> to national office, they promptly fall asleep on
> the watch and then Al-Qaida strikes.


Yeah, like that damn Biden who dodged draft attempts with educational passes like all rick white boys did until '68 when he couldn't anymore and had to fake asthma to get a medical deferment. Now he plays off his son's service like it was his. That's some weak sauce.

Meanwhile, little Barry was suffering through the turmoil of the civil rights struggle of the 60's by attending an exclusive private school in HI and firing up fatties with the Choom Gang. lmao

Smokin' Baby Barry Wrote:
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> Berdhuis Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What did you do during the war? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Paper Targets Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Why do conservative gun nuts follow a draft
> > > > dodger?
> > > > Wayne talks it but definitely didn't walk
> it.
> > > > "the only way you stop a bad guy with a gun
> > is
> > > a
> > > > good guy with a gun".
> > > > I guess Wayne didn't think he was good.
> > >
> > > Conservative draft dodgers.
> > > Dick Chaney should be the poster boy for the
> > NRA.
> > > Draft Dodger, convicted for DWI(2) and likes
> to
> > > shoot his friends.
> >
> > I know what you mean, and his sidekick Bush was
> a
> > draft dodger, too. Both draft dodgers, and when
> > the minority of American voters get them
> elected
> > to national office, they promptly fall asleep
> on
> > the watch and then Al-Qaida strikes.
>
>
> Yeah, like that damn Biden who dodged draft
> attempts with educational passes like all rick
> white boys did until '68 when he couldn't anymore
> and had to fake asthma to get a medical deferment.
> Now he plays off his son's service like it was
> his. That's some weak sauce.
>
> Meanwhile, little Barry was suffering through the
> turmoil of the civil rights struggle of the 60's
> by attending an exclusive private school in HI and
> firing up fatties with the Choom Gang. lmao
This is the bestyou can come up with? Must be a lifetime member of yhe NRA.

Paper Targets Wrote:
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> Why do conservative gun nuts follow a draft
> dodger?
> Wayne talks it but definitely didn't walk it.
> "the only way you stop a bad guy with a gun is a
> good guy with a gun".
> I guess Wayne didn't think he was good.

If you knew anything about the NRA you would know that it's a
grassroots organization where the "leadership" follows the wishes
of the general membership and not the other way around. Wayne
takes his direction from the Board of Directors who are in turn
elected by the members themselves. Go do your homework boy.

Morris Wrote:
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> Paper Targets Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why do conservative gun nuts follow a draft
> > dodger?
> > Wayne talks it but definitely didn't walk it.
> > "the only way you stop a bad guy with a gun is
> a
> > good guy with a gun".
> > I guess Wayne didn't think he was good.
>
> If you knew anything about the NRA you would know
> that it's a
> grassroots organization where the "leadership"
> follows the wishes
> of the general membership and not the other way
> around. Wayne
> takes his direction from the Board of Directors
> who are in turn
> elected by the members themselves. Go do your
> homework boy.

Youll have to forgive him. Liberals dont understand that not everyone just blindly follows people because they are the leaders of their party or cause. Just look at all the intelligent responses you get from them on any issue now a days, its almost all just talking points that they cant elaborate on or explain which then of course just leads to name calling and garbage like the post above

Future president of NRA Wrote:
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> Smokin' Baby Barry Wrote:
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> -----
> > Berdhuis Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > What did you do during the war? Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Paper Targets Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Why do conservative gun nuts follow a
> draft
> > > > > dodger?
> > > > > Wayne talks it but definitely didn't walk
> > it.
> > > > > "the only way you stop a bad guy with a
> gun
> > > is
> > > > a
> > > > > good guy with a gun".
> > > > > I guess Wayne didn't think he was good.
> > > >
> > > > Conservative draft dodgers.
> > > > Dick Chaney should be the poster boy for
> the
> > > NRA.
> > > > Draft Dodger, convicted for DWI(2) and
> likes
> > to
> > > > shoot his friends.
> > >
> > > I know what you mean, and his sidekick Bush
> was
> > a
> > > draft dodger, too. Both draft dodgers, and
> when
> > > the minority of American voters get them
> > elected
> > > to national office, they promptly fall asleep
> > on
> > > the watch and then Al-Qaida strikes.
> >
> >
> > Yeah, like that damn Biden who dodged draft
> > attempts with educational passes like all rick
> > white boys did until '68 when he couldn't
> anymore
> > and had to fake asthma to get a medical
> deferment.
> > Now he plays off his son's service like it was
> > his. That's some weak sauce.
> >
> > Meanwhile, little Barry was suffering through
> the
> > turmoil of the civil rights struggle of the
> 60's
> > by attending an exclusive private school in HI
> and
> > firing up fatties with the Choom Gang. lmao
> This is the bestyou can come up with? Must be a
> lifetime member of yhe NRA.

Truth stings huh?

Morris Wrote:
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> Paper Targets Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why do conservative gun nuts follow a draft
> > dodger?
> > Wayne talks it but definitely didn't walk it.
> > "the only way you stop a bad guy with a gun is
> a
> > good guy with a gun".
> > I guess Wayne didn't think he was good.
>
> If you knew anything about the NRA you would know
> that it's a
> grassroots organization where the "leadership"
> follows the wishes
> of the general membership and not the other way
> around. Wayne
> takes his direction from the Board of Directors
> who are in turn
> elected by the members themselves. Go do your
> homework boy.

I wouldn't know. Wouldn't belong to any organation, club or society that would want me as a member. I think only wussies would join to feel secure.
LaPierre is a chicken shit for not serving his country.

So how is the protesting going???

Never see anybody when I drive.

I keep having to put new eggs in my car just in case I see a group of dumb ass people standing out there.

Guess its been too cold for them.

GFR Wrote:
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> So how is the protesting going???
>
> Never see anybody when I drive.
>
> I keep having to put new eggs in my car just in
> case I see a group of dumb ass people standing out
> there.
>
> Guess its been too cold for them.

A egg throwing member of the NRA? How cute?
What's your carry piece? A squirt gun?

Burning Babies Barry Wrote:
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> Future president of NRA Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Smokin' Baby Barry Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Berdhuis Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > What did you do during the war? Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Paper Targets Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > Why do conservative gun nuts follow a
> > draft
> > > > > > dodger?
> > > > > > Wayne talks it but definitely didn't
> walk
> > > it.
> > > > > > "the only way you stop a bad guy with a
> > gun
> > > > is
> > > > > a
> > > > > > good guy with a gun".
> > > > > > I guess Wayne didn't think he was good.
> > > > >
> > > > > Conservative draft dodgers.
> > > > > Dick Chaney should be the poster boy for
> > the
> > > > NRA.
> > > > > Draft Dodger, convicted for DWI(2) and
> > likes
> > > to
> > > > > shoot his friends.
> > > >
> > > > I know what you mean, and his sidekick Bush
> > was
> > > a
> > > > draft dodger, too. Both draft dodgers, and
> > when
> > > > the minority of American voters get them
> > > elected
> > > > to national office, they promptly fall
> asleep
> > > on
> > > > the watch and then Al-Qaida strikes.
> > >
> > >
> > > Yeah, like that damn Biden who dodged draft
> > > attempts with educational passes like all
> rick
> > > white boys did until '68 when he couldn't
> > anymore
> > > and had to fake asthma to get a medical
> > deferment.
> > > Now he plays off his son's service like it
> was
> > > his. That's some weak sauce.
> > >
> > > Meanwhile, little Barry was suffering through
> > the
> > > turmoil of the civil rights struggle of the
> > 60's
> > > by attending an exclusive private school in
> HI
> > and
> > > firing up fatties with the Choom Gang. lmao
> > This is the bestyou can come up with? Must be a
> > lifetime member of yhe NRA.
>
> Truth stings huh?

Bullets sting. Truth doesn't hurt.
How do you cook your babies?

Libs/Progressive pukes prefer to cook their babies for 8 months, stick a fork in them, pull them out of the womb and let them die. So progressive.

Deep Fried Babies Wrote:
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>
> >
> > Truth stings huh?
>
> Bullets sting. Truth doesn't hurt.
> How do you cook your babies?


I prefer drones. Cleaner that way.

Get too close and that burning flesh smell just stays in your nose forever.

Yuck!

Baby Killin Barry Wrote:
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> Deep Fried Babies Wrote:
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> >
> > >
> > > Truth stings huh?
> >
> > Bullets sting. Truth doesn't hurt.
> > How do you cook your babies?
>
>
> I prefer drones. Cleaner that way.
>
> Get too close and that burning flesh smell just
> stays in your nose forever.
>
> Yuck!
>
>
> src="http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb411/aur
> aelium/war-dead-child-obama-Drone-attack-victims1.
> jpg">A

I've seen and smelled burned bodies a few times. No biggie. War is what it is. You either survive or you don't. Sometimes you survive but you don't.
Get the picture? Drones are a product of sick minds like the ones in Germany during WWII.
Everything dies.
You ain't lived until you have been shot.
With 6.5 billion on earth who the fuck cares. One bad apple can spoil a bunch.
Enjoy your life.

DFBabies Wrote:
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> Baby Killin Barry Wrote:
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> > Deep Fried Babies Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Truth stings huh?
> > >
> > > Bullets sting. Truth doesn't hurt.
> > > How do you cook your babies?
> >
> >
> > I prefer drones. Cleaner that way.
> >
> > Get too close and that burning flesh smell just
> > stays in your nose forever.
> >
> > Yuck!
> >
> >
> > >
> src="http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb411/aur
>
> >
> aelium/war-dead-child-obama-Drone-attack-victims1.
>
> > jpg">A
>
> I've seen and smelled burned bodies a few times.
> No biggie. War is what it is. You either survive
> or you don't. Sometimes you survive but you
> don't.
> Get the picture? Drones are a product of sick
> minds like the ones in Germany during WWII.
> Everything dies.
> You ain't lived until you have been shot.
> With 6.5 billion on earth who the fuck cares. One
> bad apple can spoil a bunch.
> Enjoy your life.

Too profound for this forum. But true

Libsmart Wrote:
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> Judging from what you write, you are not in a
> position to evaluate how logical my thinking is.
> And by the way, your apostrophe key seems not to
> be working.