Johnny Gunner Wrote:
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> Look Deeper Wrote:
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> > Johnny Gunner Wrote:
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> > > There's a lot of fucked up things the
> liberals
> > are
> > > trying to rain down in this gun debate but as
> a
> > > lifelong gun owner of 32 years of age, I will
> > > submit the following...
> > >
> > > I've never seen or been out in the woods with
> > > another hunter with an automatic assault
> rifle.
> > > Never. And yet, these are the weapons of
> choice
> > in
> > > most NOT ALL of these mass-shootings. I'd
> > > wholeheartedly support a ban on assault
> rifles
> > and
> > > a limit to magazine sizes on semi-automatics
> > but,
> > > you're not just taking ALL the guns out of
> the
> > > hands of private citizens.
> > >
> > > The problem is...if the gun community gives
> > ground
> > > and permits an assault rifle ban, the
> liberals
> > > won't stop there. They won't stop until ALL
> the
> > > guns are off the streets and that's just not
> > the
> > > country that we live in...sorry.
> >
> >
> > AR-15s were only used in 3.5% of all murders,
> mass
> > or otherwise.
>
> Do you have a citation on that statistic?
Of course, but I misquoted. 3.5% of murders were commited with a rifle, some of which were AR-15s.
http://www.shwat.com/ArticleIndex/tabid/85/EntryId/76/-Gun-Control-Why-We-Care-About-Magazine-Capacity-Semi-Auto-Actions-and-More.aspx
Here ia an excertp:
AR-15 and Other Semi-Automatic Rifles
Let’s look at the numbers. Are the AR-15 or other semi-auto rifles as dangerous and the source of as many murders as some in the media and politics would lead us to believe? The facts are that AR-15 rifles simply aren’t used to commit murder very often. For that matter, rifles in general are not commonly used in this context.
According to the FBI, there were 58,604 murders in the US over the five-year period covering 2005 through 2009. Of those, 2,064 were committed with rifles. That’s only 3.5% of murders. And not all of those rifles were AR-15s.
Compare that to the 9,280 murders committed using knives or bladed objects (4 ½ times the use of rifles) and the 4,291 murders committed using “hands, fists, feet, etc” (2 times the use of rifles). So, are we supposed to ban all knives, bladed objects, hands, fists, feet, and other unnamed body parts?
Clearly not, but then there is no logical way to say that the AR-15 or other semi-automatic rifles are more dangerous than blades, hands or feet. This remains true even if you argue that the gun is the real problem, not the person. It’s simple logic and simple math.