Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
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I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: 165,000 other students (IP Logged)
Date: April 21, 2008 02:14PM
I am also sick of the people in SOCO. If you are also tired of the whiners in SOCO please post your comments.
We know what they want? EVERYTHING. Where does that leave the rest of us? With the left overs if their are any.
Please read this great post;
I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners and their misguided sense of entitlement to this middle school.
FACT: FCPS is facing a $100 million budget deficit
FACT: Fairfax County has a declining revenue base given the real estate market.
FACT: Many FCPS facilities are in desperate need of renovations-some have not been renovated for 40 years.
FACT: There are 4 schools surrounding SOCO that have 1200 empty seats-SOCO is overcrowded by 450 students.
FACT: Many students in FCPS commute long distances to get to their schools. SOCO families should do the same.
When that dingbat spoke at the SB meeting and stated that she brought her piggybank with $27 million I had to laugh. Who the hell made her queen? She stole $2 million from BRAC planning, she hocked some piece of PUBLIC land for $15 million and the BOS is offering $10 million to shut Storck and Bradsher up. How exactly is that her piggy bank?
This SB is wasting so much time on this garbage someone needs to tell them NO! Maybe then the SB will start giving a damn about the other 165,000 students in FCPS.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: Gravis (IP Logged)
Date: April 21, 2008 02:45PM
what is SOCO?
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: LOLCO (IP Logged)
Date: April 21, 2008 02:59PM
what the fuck is SOCO
Now SOVA, I am sick of those people period.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: Baffled (IP Logged)
Date: April 21, 2008 03:16PM
LOLCO Wrote:
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> what the fuck is SOCO
>
> Now SOVA, I am sick of those people period.
SOCO refers to South County. Another either redistricting/building a new school circus is underway. Get popcorn and watch the show if you are interested..probably not from the sound of your post.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: SOCOLOCO (IP Logged)
Date: April 21, 2008 03:23PM
. . .sorry folks, but there just isn't 1,6000 extra student placement seats at Lake Braddock, Hayfield, and West Springfield.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: ITRADE (IP Logged)
Date: April 21, 2008 03:26PM
Gravis Wrote:
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> what is SOCO?
Southern Comfort.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: 496 (IP Logged)
Date: April 21, 2008 09:34PM
I like my soco with ice
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: bdimag (IP Logged)
Date: April 21, 2008 11:12PM
like oh my gawd, soco and lime
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: meh (IP Logged)
Date: April 22, 2008 12:02AM
SOCO straight to face in the shieeeeeet
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: Not a proud moment FFX (IP Logged)
Date: April 22, 2008 08:02AM
This is what the people of SOCO have done to all of the other citizens and children in Fairfax County.
No sex offender unit.
Less detectives.
More Sexual predators
The BOS found 5 million to bond in each of 2 years. Guess other stuff will be bumped on completion dates. P'Caso [sex offender unit] of our police was funded with money procurred via a grant.
FX no longer has the full funding and the county might be short 3 detectives. I would rather fund these detectives and stick some kids on a bus to Lake Braddock.
The BOS made a choice. Sexual predators . Not a proud moment in the history of this county. What about the 2000 student high school target enrollment?
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: bartender (IP Logged)
Date: April 22, 2008 10:25AM
soco n lime
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: thecumbackkid (IP Logged)
Date: April 22, 2008 11:23AM
SOCO N LIME PLOX
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: bdimag (IP Logged)
Date: April 22, 2008 12:53PM
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 04/22/2008 12:54PM by bdimag.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: TIRED (IP Logged)
Date: April 22, 2008 01:36PM
There are a lot of people who are tired of this bunch of rich people who are bias, elitists and who practice racialism.
If the above is not true, how come they do not want their children to attend Hayfield, Lee and Holly ES.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: 496 (IP Logged)
Date: April 22, 2008 01:44PM
What's racialism?
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: traits and capacities. (IP Logged)
Date: April 22, 2008 01:53PM
496 Wrote:
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> What's racialism?
A theory that race determines human traits and capacities.
SOCO PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT MINORITIES DO NOT MEET THEIR STANDARDS AND DO NOT WANT THEIR CHILDREN AROUND THEM.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: TheMeeper (IP Logged)
Date: April 22, 2008 02:44PM
496 Wrote:
>> What's racialism?
That's racist.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: bdimag (IP Logged)
Date: April 22, 2008 02:45PM
you're all so ig'nant
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: 496 (IP Logged)
Date: April 22, 2008 04:07PM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> 496 Wrote:
> >> What's racialism?
>
>
> That's racist.
Thats racialist.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: Bull shit coming out of SOCO (IP Logged)
Date: April 23, 2008 12:15PM
This is why people are sick and tired of the bull shit coming out of SOCO. This region is on the brink of tearing itself apart because people there will do anything in order to get new schools in whatever way fits their biases. Racism and bigotry are alive an well in Southern Fairfax County.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: RACIALISM. (IP Logged)
Date: April 23, 2008 12:58PM
Douchebags.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: Gravis (IP Logged)
Date: April 23, 2008 08:41PM
496 Wrote:
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> TheMeeper Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 496 Wrote:
> > >> What's racialism?
> >
> >
> > That's racist.
>
> Thats racialist.
That's racist!
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: Citizen (IP Logged)
Date: April 24, 2008 06:28AM
South County area needs to have a complete RD in order to fill all empty seats in schools like Lake Braddock, Lee, Hayfield and Mount Vernon first.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: NEW BUILDING FOR FCPS (IP Logged)
Date: April 24, 2008 09:57PM
Since the FCPS system wants to move ahead with a new building, Gatehouse 2 lets put all middle school students from SOCO into this building.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: KeepOnTruckin (IP Logged)
Date: April 24, 2008 10:52PM
I didn't realize there was anything wrong with the 2 older buildings that were in use prior to gatehouse, The one in Fairfax city by the courts and the old HR building on Edsall Rd, until they just moved into Gatehouse. Meanwhile the schools crumble.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: Real Prejudice (IP Logged)
Date: April 24, 2008 11:50PM
So much bias, so much rage, so much ignorance!
All of it directed against people they don't even know.
What an irrational hatred of the people living in South County!
Such SOCO-phobia.
I don't know the facts about the South County school situation, but I damn well know that there is nothing to learn from the hate-filled individuals accusing "SOCO" of the very things they demonstrate with their own words: bias and hatred.
Do Fairfax County and Schools officials or Board members really pay attention to such rantings of a deranged few?
Shame on them if they do.
Hopefully they will realize that the raving lunatic mob doesn't represent anything more than the six or seven people who post all this garbage using various aliases.
I now what comes next, so flame away, I can take the heat.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: Tourist (IP Logged)
Date: April 25, 2008 10:36AM
The main problem I have with South County is that, when I look at the attendance boundaries, it sort of looks like Italy or maybe post-WW II Yugoslavia. This makes me think that the residents not only get brand new schools, with promises of more to come, but also eat really well, and I get jealous.
None of the other school boundaries stand out this way. If you look at Langley sideways, it almost looks like a profile of Abe Lincoln. McLean, with its attendance islands to both the west and south, looks a bit like a lobster. Stuart almost looks like a Star of David, but it would need to cut a deal with Wakefield (in Arlington) to really pull that off.
Now do you understand why we're so angry?
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: SOCO stupidity (IP Logged)
Date: April 25, 2008 12:03PM
Gatehouse I saved us ZERO money. Read the cost/benefit analysis. Read what FCPS promised in savings and what they saved.
This building cost us our kids and grandkids $60 million smackers and it takes $3.5 million from the operating budget every year.
Gatehouse II will cost us even more money and put us further in debt.
Fix our schools first before we spend another penny on the Kremlin cronies.
After you fill Mt Vernon then we will talk about this unneeded middle school.
We need to take away their checkbook.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: Dr. Freud (IP Logged)
Date: April 25, 2008 03:31PM
Tourist Wrote:
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> The main problem I have with South County is that,
> when I look at the attendance boundaries, it sort
> of looks like Italy or maybe post-WW II
> Yugoslavia. This makes me think that the residents
> not only get brand new schools, with promises of
> more to come, but also eat really well, and I get
> jealous.
>
> None of the other school boundaries stand out this
> way. If you look at Langley sideways, it almost
> looks like a profile of Abe Lincoln. McLean, with
> its attendance islands to both the west and south,
> looks a bit like a lobster. Stuart almost looks
> like a Star of David, but it would need to cut a
> deal with Wakefield (in Arlington) to really pull
> that off.
>
> Now do you understand why we're so angry?
Yes, yes, yes! Finally someone who tells the truth about this whole affair.
It clearly is the Yugoslavian food that everyone is jealous of.
From here on out, it's Shopska Salads for every school in the County!
Of course, if the evil SOCO people had their way, the SOCO boundary would be reduced in such a way that it looked more like a Pentagram.
Also, doesn't Westfield look a little like the Ziggy cartoon in profile?
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: Merriam-Webster (IP Logged)
Date: April 25, 2008 04:08PM
Bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance.
Let's see if this applies to any of the posters above:
"Tired" writes about "SOCOs": "There are a lot of people who are tired of this bunch of rich people who are bias, elitists and who practice racialism."
"traits and capacities" writes: "SOCO PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT MINORITIES DO NOT MEET THEIR STANDARDS AND DO NOT WANT THEIR CHILDREN AROUND THEM."
And "Not a proud moment FFX" lays all blame on the "SOCOs": "This is what the people of SOCO have done to all of the other citizens and children in Fairfax County. No sex offender unit. Less detectives. More Sexual predators"
Yeah, I'd say they match what Merriam-Webster was talking about.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: another definition (IP Logged)
Date: April 25, 2008 04:23PM
SELFISH:
concerned excessivily or exclusively with oneself: seeking or concentrating on one's own advantage, pleasure, or well being without regard for others.
Hmmmmmm, let's see. Could this describe the SOCO Middle School crowd???
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: IGOTDAJUIC (IP Logged)
Date: April 25, 2008 04:40PM
SOCO N LIME JUICE
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: Merriam-Webster (IP Logged)
Date: April 25, 2008 04:41PM
another definition Wrote:
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>Could this describe the SOCO Middle School crowd???
Here's another definition for you:
Stereotype: A conventional, formulaic, and oversimplified conception, opinion, or image. Typically generalizations based on minimal or limited knowledge about a group to which the person doing the stereotyping does not belong.
Sort of like calling thousands of people "the SOCO Middle School crowd" just becuase they are willing to work hard to get their children a Middle School - something that everyone else in FFX County already has!
Do I also need to help you with the words ignorant or prejudice?
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: Webster is stupid (IP Logged)
Date: April 25, 2008 04:57PM
So I guess all secondary schools deserve a middle school. Let' build one for Hayfield, Robinson and Lake Braddock also.
Montgomery County Public Schools was just given $55 million from the state of MD for school construction next year. Their student population is about 20% less than FCPS. If we apply the same ratios to FCPS we would get about $70 million.
The SOCO nuts want it all. They would have us spend 70% of our construction budget on them. And the 30% left-the crumbs-would go to the other 180 schools.
Give me a break.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: Citizen (IP Logged)
Date: April 25, 2008 08:44PM
IF THE CITIZENS OF SOCO WANT A MIDDLE SCHOOL, THEY SHOULD BUILD IT WITH THEIR MONEY AND STAFF IT WITH THEIR MONEY.
otherwise they need to wait their turn.
Webster is stupid Wrote:
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> So I guess all secondary schools deserve a middle
> school. Let' build one for Hayfield, Robinson and
> Lake Braddock also.
>
> Montgomery County Public Schools was just given
> $55 million from the state of MD for school
> construction next year. Their student population
> is about 20% less than FCPS. If we apply the same
> ratios to FCPS we would get about $70 million.
>
> The SOCO nuts want it all. They would have us
> spend 70% of our construction budget on them. And
> the 30% left-the crumbs-would go to the other 180
> schools.
>
> Give me a break.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: Merriam-Webster (IP Logged)
Date: April 25, 2008 09:16PM
Webster is stupid Wrote:
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> So I guess all secondary schools deserve a middle
> school. Let' build one for Hayfield, Robinson and
> Lake Braddock also.
>
And that's exactly where the misunderstanding about this entire issue begins.
Hayfield is a secondary school. Robinson is a secondary school. Lake Braddock is a secondary school. South County is a HIGH SCHOOL!
Hayfield, Robinson and Lake Braddock were built 30 years ago as SECONDARY SCHOOLS; that means they were designed from the foundation up to accomodate what was then an educational philosophy of co-locating the middle and high school students in the same building, with some shared facilities and many SEPARATE facilities.
By contrast, South County is the same design as Westfield, which is a HIGH SCHOOL.
South County was built not just because Hayfield was bursting at the seems, but because thousands of NEW homes were being built around the closed Lorton prison property. To provide the same quality education available in every other community in Fairfax, former prison land was set aside to build a high school, middle school and elementary school.
However, because the development was initially expected to take up to ten years or more, the plan was to first build the high school, and temporarily operate it as a "secondary" school. Once the new community was large enough, the midddle school would be built. But, because of the then-hot housing market in 2002-2005, most of the major new housing developments were accelerated and what could have taken up to ten years, took just over three.
Yet, facilities staff refused to recognize this fact and appropriately adjust the CIP to move up the SC middle school. The problem in South County isn't that we have an overcrowded "secondary school", the problem is that we don't have our planned MIDDLE SCHOOL.
But, having middle schoolers in a high school and calling it a "secondary" school doesn't change the underlying reality that it is still a HIGH SCHOOL.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: Amazed (IP Logged)
Date: April 25, 2008 09:23PM
Citizen Wrote:
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> IF THE CITIZENS OF SOCO WANT A MIDDLE SCHOOL, THEY
> SHOULD BUILD IT WITH THEIR MONEY AND STAFF IT WITH
> THEIR MONEY.
>
Wow, what an amazing statement!
Let's just change a few words to make it more accurate:
If the children of "SOCO" want a middle school, they should build it with their parents' money and staff it with their parents' money.
Is that really how Fairfax County Public Schools operates?
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: SOCO OWN WORLD (IP Logged)
Date: April 25, 2008 10:25PM
SOCO should split away from the rest of the county in order for them to do their own thing. Your money, your schools, your staff, be happy in your world and leave the rest of us alone.
Amazed Wrote:
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> Citizen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > IF THE CITIZENS OF SOCO WANT A MIDDLE SCHOOL,
> THEY
> > SHOULD BUILD IT WITH THEIR MONEY AND STAFF IT
> WITH
> > THEIR MONEY.
> >
>
> Wow, what an amazing statement!
>
> Let's just change a few words to make it more
> accurate:
>
> If the children of "SOCO" want a middle school,
> they should build it with their parents' money and
> staff it with their parents' money.
>
> Is that really how Fairfax County Public Schools
> operates?
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: taxpayer (IP Logged)
Date: April 26, 2008 12:17AM
Merriam-Webster Wrote:
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> Webster is stupid Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So I guess all secondary schools deserve a
> middle
> > school. Let' build one for Hayfield, Robinson
> and
> > Lake Braddock also.
> >
> And that's exactly where the misunderstanding
> about this entire issue begins.
>
> Hayfield is a secondary school. Robinson is a
> secondary school. Lake Braddock is a secondary
> school. South County is a HIGH SCHOOL!
>
> Hayfield, Robinson and Lake Braddock were built 30
> years ago as SECONDARY SCHOOLS; that means they
> were designed from the foundation up to accomodate
> what was then an educational philosophy of
> co-locating the middle and high school students in
> the same building, with some shared facilities and
> many SEPARATE facilities.
>
> By contrast, South County is the same design as
> Westfield, which is a HIGH SCHOOL.
>
> South County was built not just because Hayfield
> was bursting at the seems, but because thousands
> of NEW homes were being built around the closed
> Lorton prison property. To provide the same
> quality education available in every other
> community in Fairfax, former prison land was set
> aside to build a high school, middle school and
> elementary school.
>
> However, because the development was initially
> expected to take up to ten years or more, the plan
> was to first build the high school, and
> temporarily operate it as a "secondary" school.
> Once the new community was large enough, the
> midddle school would be built. But, because of
> the then-hot housing market in 2002-2005, most of
> the major new housing developments were
> accelerated and what could have taken up to ten
> years, took just over three.
>
> Yet, facilities staff refused to recognize this
> fact and appropriately adjust the CIP to move up
> the SC middle school. The problem in South County
> isn't that we have an overcrowded "secondary
> school", the problem is that we don't have our
> planned MIDDLE SCHOOL.
>
> But, having middle schoolers in a high school and
> calling it a "secondary" school doesn't change the
> underlying reality that it is still a HIGH SCHOOL.
SO MOVE. 2500 hundred seats. If a middle school opens , SOCO HIGH would have over 500 empty seats in 2012.
SOCO was built on the Westfield Design. According to a quote by Rumberger , Westfield was supposed to open as a secondary school.
SOCO used Westfield blueprints because FCPS has STOCK plans for new schools. Dogwood has several twins!!! The fact is Connelly is running for Congress so it seems Tisdadt is going ahead with this. Did the school board vote?
no but Tom, Gerry, Jerry, and Dave did plan the money. What is Storck? The King of underpopulated schools? He'll have SOCO and Mount Vernon after the middle school opens.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: SB voted for South County Middle Scho (IP Logged)
Date: April 26, 2008 12:49AM
taxpayer Wrote:
> Did the school board vote?
>
> no but Tom, Gerry, Jerry, and Dave did plan the
> money. What is Storck? The King of
> underpopulated schools? He'll have SOCO and Mount
> Vernon after the middle school opens.
Yes they did, back in January, and the votes were quite clear. The SB voted to immediately begin planning for South County Middle School and voted that upon receipt of $10 million from the BOS, they would build South County Middle School. Here are from the official minutes:
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Fairfax County School Board
Regular Meeting No. 12
January 24, 2008
Official Minutes
The motion to amend the motion to allocate the $2 million in BRAC planning money contained in the 2009-2013 CIP to immediately begin the planning for the South County middle school passed 11-1, with Mrs. Bradsher, Mr. Center, Mr. Gibson, Ms. Hone, Mrs. Kory, Mr. Moon, Mr. Niedzielski-Eichner, Mr. Raney, Mrs. Smith, Mr. Storck, and Mrs. Strauss voting “aye”; and Mrs. Wilson voting “nay”.
The amended motion that, upon the provision by the Board of Supervisors and/or the federal government of at least $10 million in funding or its equivalent designated for that purpose, the Board direct the Superintendent to work with the County to utilize these funds to leverage such other additional funding or financing necessary to initiate a contracting process that will result in the most expeditious construction possible of a South County middle school that does not displace any other project currently funded for planning or construction by the CIP passed 8-4, with Mrs. Bradsher, Mr. Center, Ms. Hone, Mrs. Kory, Mr. Moon, Mr. Raney, Mr. Storck, and Mrs. Strauss voting “aye”; and Mr. Gibson, Mr. Niedzielski-Eichner, Mrs. Smith, and Mrs. Wilson voting “nay”.
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Sounds like both the SB and BOS have made clear with their votes that South County Middle School should be built.
Get used to it!
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: Where is the money (IP Logged)
Date: April 26, 2008 06:16AM
So the SB voted for the MS. Now tell me where they get the $50 million dollars to build the school? They have $12 million now, where does the rest come from? From the BOS? From the SB? From the residences of SOCO?
How many years will it take to build the school?
Lots of questions with very little answers?
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: ILLEGALS FOR SOCO SCHOOLS (IP Logged)
Date: April 27, 2008 12:49PM
Re: More Illegals Moving to Fairfax!
Posted by: SOCO HAS SPACE FOR ILLEGALS (IP Logged)
Date: April 27, 2008 12:42PM
Since SOCO is close to Prince William County and they will have three new schools, I suggest that all illegals students should be placed in the three new schools in SOCO.
HooLeo Wrote:
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> Local
> Crackdown prompts student exodus to other
> counties
>
> Dan Genz, The Examiner
> 2008-04-26 07:00:00.0
> Current rank: # 103 of 4,441
> Virginia -
>
> The number of non-English-speaking students
> transferring from Prince William County schools to
> neighboring school systems climbed again last
> month as families flee the crackdown on illegal
> immigrants.
>
> The vast majority, 623 of about 760 departing
> students, have moved to neighboring Fairfax County
> schools, while 80 selected Arlington and 58 chose
> Alexandria.
>
> State and local school officials are trying to get
> a handle on the impact of a Prince William County
> policy directing the police to inform federal
> immigration authorities when illegal immigrants
> are questioned for traffic violations and minor
> crimes. Supervisors are considering a pivotal vote
> on whether to fund the multimillion-dollar policy
> Tuesday amid a budget crunch.
>
> The transfers from Prince William County to
> Fairfax County are nearly triple the 241 students
> who completed the same transition between
> September and late March last year, and officials
> say the immigration policy contributed to the
> increase.
>
> Critics, including Capital Area Immigrants' Rights
> Coalition director Kathy Doan, contend the
> crackdown has driven hundreds of legal immigrants,
> including the U.S. citizen children of illegal
> immigrants, out of the county as families seek
> jurisdictions with less aggressive enforcement
> tactics.
>
> Virginia School Superintendent Billy Cannaday held
> a regional conference call with top officials from
> 13 school divisions earlier this month to get a
> grasp on the extent of the regional migration.
>
> Cannaday wanted to determine whether the families
> of immigrants were leaving education altogether,
> which he said appears not to be happening, or
> transferring to neighboring districts, which is.
>
> "While Walts informed us that ... enrollments had
> dropped 718 students since Sept. 30, 2007, it
> appears that most of these students may have
> enrolled in Fairfax, Arlington or Alexandria
> public schools," Cannaday wrote in a memo April
> 4.
>
> School officials now say 759 students left the
> school system through March 31, up from a
> preliminary 718.
>
> While the number of students learning English has
> eroded throughout the school year, it follows a
> 1,546-student increase last summer. Teachers are
> still educating 800 more English language learners
> than last school year.
>
> Supporters of the illegal-immigration policy,
> including Chairman Corey Stewart, say the drop in
> school enrollment will save the county $6 million
> in fiscal 2009 and result in at least 40 fewer
> teaching positions next school year.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: KeepOnTruckin (IP Logged)
Date: April 27, 2008 03:45PM
Why dont they just build the addition on to SCSS like they did with westfield. That would be cheaper and they would have lots of seats. Or they could just add trailers, but SOCOers are too good for that.
Re: the temporaryness of a secondary school:
How well did that work out for Chantilly? Built as a temporary school back in 1973, its still working without complaints. THey just have lots of trailers and a modular building.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: Ex-Hawk (IP Logged)
Date: April 27, 2008 05:02PM
KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
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> Why dont they just build the addition on to SCSS
> like they did with westfield. That would be
> cheaper and they would have lots of seats. Or they
> could just add trailers, but SOCOers are too good
> for that.
>
> Re: the temporaryness of a secondary school:
> How well did that work out for Chantilly? Built as
> a temporary school back in 1973, its still working
> without complaints. THey just have lots of
> trailers and a modular building.
Westfield and Chantilly are HIGH schools with grades 9-12; South County -- which is a copy of Westfield -- is also a HIGH school building but has been "temporarily" operating as a secondeary school with grades 6-12.
BTW, it already has 24 trailers PLUS an extended 9-period day.
Of course, by your logic, why not eliminate Laurel Hill elementary school and just add on another 24 trailers and make South County a K-12 school.
After all, it's just a matter of putting in more "seats" for the least amount of dollars, right?
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: KoolKat (IP Logged)
Date: April 27, 2008 06:09PM
Ex-Hawk Wrote:
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> Westfield and Chantilly are HIGH schools with
> grades 9-12; South County -- which is a copy of
> Westfield -- is also a HIGH school building but
> has been "temporarily" operating as a secondeary
> school with grades 6-12.
>
> BTW, it already has 24 trailers PLUS an extended
> 9-period day.
Can someone explain what a "9-period day" is? Why is that a problem?
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: stallion (IP Logged)
Date: April 27, 2008 08:31PM
The secondary, middle, and high schools all have 7 periods running about 7 hours. SCSS has 2 extra periods to handle the overflow so their middle schoolers actually start school until about 930 and don't get out until 4ish. Middle school teachers at that school are paid a big stipend to work those offset hours. Apparently admin and staff are as well.
Just use Hayfield and LB.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: KeepOnTruckin (IP Logged)
Date: April 27, 2008 09:26PM
Ex-Hawk Wrote:
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> Westfield and Chantilly are HIGH schools with
> grades 9-12; South County -- which is a copy of
> Westfield -- is also a HIGH school building but
> has been "temporarily" operating as a secondeary
> school with grades 6-12.
>
> BTW, it already has 24 trailers PLUS an extended
> 9-period day.
>
> Of course, by your logic, why not eliminate Laurel
> Hill elementary school and just add on another 24
> trailers and make South County a K-12 school.
>
> After all, it's just a matter of putting in more
> "seats" for the least amount of dollars, right?
The westfield building, after addition, holds 3100 people, up from the 2500 which SCSS also has. That addition cost 8.7 million, and since the SOCO'ers have 12 million, they can afford that.
[www.fcps.edu]
If SCSS is overcrowded by 450, building the same addition onto it will provide for it and leave extra space that will likely be needed by BRAC.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/27/2008 09:27PM by KeepOnTruckin.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: KoolKat (IP Logged)
Date: April 27, 2008 10:30PM
stallion Wrote:
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> The secondary, middle, and high schools all have 7
> periods running about 7 hours. SCSS has 2 extra
> periods to handle the overflow so their middle
> schoolers actually start school until about 930
> and don't get out until 4ish. Middle school
> teachers at that school are paid a big stipend to
> work those offset hours. Apparently admin and
> staff are as well.
>
> Just use Hayfield and LB.
Very cool... when they ran out of space they moved into the 4th dimension of time and extended the size of the school using the space-time continuum to make all the kids fit.
What's next, sub-space?
Live long and prosper, South County!
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: New wing needed at SOCO (IP Logged)
Date: April 28, 2008 07:10AM
Build the new wing with the $10 million from the BOS and remove all trailers. This wing will give FCPS time over the next ten years to figure out what is needed with the CIP.
Fiscal restraint is needed now.
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Re: I am sick and tired of the SOCO whiners
Posted by: Fiscal Responsibility Needed (IP Logged)
Date: April 28, 2008 08:54AM
New wing needed at SOCO Wrote:
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> Build the new wing with the $10 million from the
> BOS and remove all trailers. This wing will give
> FCPS time over the next ten years to figure out
> what is needed with the CIP.
>
> Fiscal restraint is needed now.
Yeah, SCREW South County!
When those 15,000 people moved in over the past 5 five years, they should have known this would happen.
They should known that that just because land was specifically set asisde for a high school AND a middle school as part of the federal land swap...
And just because the County, FCPS, and the SB had publicly stated their plans to build a high school AND a middle school...
And just because the School Board clearly stated that a high school would be built first to act as a temporary secondary school, with the middle school to be built once they had all moved in...
And just becuase Fairfax County no longer builds secondary schools...
And just because Fairfax County now has a policy against building ANY school larger than 2,000 students...
And just because the school is now packed, the parking lot full of trailers and an auxilliary gym, and the day extended by a strange split-bell schedule...
REALLY, they should have known that FCPS, the SB, and the rest of the County wouldn't hesitate to SCREW them out of their middle school and keep them packed in an ever enlarging high school acting as a secondary school...
All to try and avoid spending the money needed to provide the only fiscally responsible long term solution.
It's not "fiscal restraint" that is needed, it is fiscal responsbility. We need to solve this problem for the long term, not just look for quick fixes that end up costing taxpayers more in the future and hurting kids right now.
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