MrMephisto Wrote:
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> So what happens if the Smith kid walks for any reason?

If for some real screw up he does get out of this; he will probably end up back in front of a Juvy Judge for the unrelated matters. At which time, (I'd be taking the lousy odds that Vegas would be offering) and bet that the Judge throws the book at him and locks him in Juvy for the max. After which he would be an easy target for the justice system for the next twenty years.

All court cases are a throw of the dice, and that's just my opinion. From what I have seen from **** they were well versed before making contact with the Smith brothers and I don't see an aquitale in his future.

Seriously?? Wrote:
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> @6X- +1 ( lmao )
>
> @Seriously Seriously?- So which one are you Mom or
> Pop Smith???? or David??? or lemme guess Brett???
> .....STFU no one cares what you have to say.

bret and gordonbvrd posted from same ip and computer
dont no bout the rest

@Mr Mephisto - I doubt the dude is gonna walk - but he's certainly not going to get 40 yrs either

oops. forgot the unrelated pic LoLz



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Probably get 20-25. @bystander ...he's been charged as an adult...any further charges he's automatically charged as an adult

spy123 wrote:
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> bret and gordonbvrd posted from same ip and
> computer
> dont no bout the rest

You might want to take your Magic 8-Ball in for a tune-up cuz that shut ain't working properly.

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> spy123 wrote:
> -------------------------------------------
> > bret and gordonbvrd posted from same ip and
> > computer
> > dont no bout the rest
>
> You might want to take your Magic 8-Ball in for a
> tune-up cuz that shut ain't working properly.


Can you prove it is not true??? Do you know for a 100 percent fact that they are not one in the same?

@Mr Mephisto & Seriously: not me, but my wannabe Gordon "Bvrd"

and I know this cause aint nobody but me using my IP LoLz

pic unrelated
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**Wyatt**,

As the trial starts this week, I know you will be watching over all of us. as we will be praying for JUSTICE for YOU :) .....You are Loved Always and Forever Missed. It is still hard sometimes to believe you are gone, taken from us by a 15 yr old boy full of hate and rage, who if there is Karma like they say will feel pain like you did in jail, I am sure someone will gladey take him under there "Care". Anyway Love you always and forever

********* I AM NOT THERE **********

Do not stand at my grave and weep; I am not there. I do not sleep.
I am a thousand winds that blow.
I am the diamond glints of snow.
I am the sunlight on ripened grain.
I am the gentle autumn's rain.
When you awaken in the morning's hush,
I am the swift uplifting rush
of quiet birds in circled flight.
I am the soft stars that shine at night.
Do not stand at my grave and cry;
I am not there, I did not die.

********* In Memory of Wyatt Jackson Campbell*********
((((( 5-13-1992 to 10-14-2011 )))))

We Love You Wyatt Wrote:
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> **Wyatt**,
>
> As the trial starts this week, I know you will
> be watching over all of us. as we will be praying
> for JUSTICE for YOU :) .....You are Loved Always
> and Forever Missed. It is still hard sometimes to
> believe you are gone, taken from us by a 15 yr old
> boy full of hate and rage, who if there is Karma
> like they say will feel pain like you did in jail,
> I am sure someone will gladey take him under there
> "Care". Anyway Love you always and forever
>
> ********* I AM NOT THERE
> **********
>
> Do not stand at my grave and weep; I am
> not there. I do not sleep.
> I am a thousand winds that blow.
> I am the diamond glints of snow.
> I am the sunlight on ripened grain.
> I am the gentle autumn's rain.
> When you awaken in the morning's hush,
> I am the swift uplifting rush
> of quiet birds in circled flight.
> I am the soft stars that shine at
> night.
> Do not stand at my grave and cry;
> I am not there, I did not die.
>
> ********* In Memory of Wyatt Jackson
> Campbell*********
> ((((( 5-13-1992 to 10-14-2011
> )))))

I am so sorry to Everyone I entered 10-14-2011 it should have been 2010!! I was distracted by the sounds of Mom,Mom, MOMMMMMM......Anyway Again Iam so sorry

We Love You Wyatt Wrote:
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> ... who if there is Karma like they say will feel pain like you did...

So what did Wyatt do to incur Karma's wrath? Karma isn't just a handy universal punishment to be handed out to people you don't like.

And dear God, again with that shitty poem. It's bad enough that the kid's dead, but do you really need to strip him of his dignity, too?

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MrMeph, you are such a peace piece of SHIT
end of story

Edit; voice recognition error



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/04/2011 02:48PM by Bystander.

Karma does not work because you do not like someone. It is tool to even out good and bad. You screw someone over be prepared to be screwed over yourself.
As a firm believer in karma it has never failed.
Sometimes karma can take years but it will happen.

Habib from India Wrote:
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> Karma does not work because you do not like
> someone. It is tool to even out good and bad. You
> screw someone over be prepared to be screwed over
> yourself.
> As a firm believer in karma it has never failed.
> Sometimes karma can take years but it will happen.

So who did Wyatt screw over?

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Bystander Wrote:
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> MrMeph, you are such a peace of SHIT
> end of story

Lol, "peace."

Seriously, you think it's appropriate to post a poem written from the perspective of a dead kid saying he's not really dead? And you people call me crazy.

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No need to point out that you are crazy. I'm just reminding you that you are a piece of shit.

Stellar contribution as always.

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> We Love You Wyatt Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ... who if there is Karma like they say will
> feel pain like you did...
>
> So what did Wyatt do to incur Karma's wrath? Karma
> isn't just a handy universal punishment to be
> handed out to people you don't like.
>
> And dear God, again with that shitty poem. It's
> bad enough that the kid's dead, but do you really
> need to strip him of his dignity, too?

You are the biggest PIECE of Shit I have encountered,You talk a lot of shit for someone hiding behind a fake name. Gee, I have a feeling though you wouldn't care to back it up in "REAL" Life would ya??? I hope that someday soon, you feel the pain of losing a child ( if you have any) or someone close to you, BUT if the world is really lucky You will die , and I so hope if that is the case, we find out your real name for I would gladly spit on your grave. For someone who didn't know Wyatt you hold a lot of hate for him, which leads me to believe a couple of things.People like you are what make this world such a bad place.

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"...your suffering will be legendary even in Hell!"

@ "@Mephisto": just out of curiosity, when has he ever said he hated Wyatt? Can you post a link or a quote where he has said that cause I've never actually seen it. Spitting on graves and wishing ppl would die or lose a child - now THAT'S what sounds like hate........................

@MEPHISTO Wrote:
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> You are the biggest PIECE of Shit I have
> encountered,You talk a lot of shit for someone
> hiding behind a fake name. Gee, I have a feeling
> though you wouldn't care to back it up in "REAL"
> Life would ya??? I hope that someday soon, you
> feel the pain of losing a child ( if you have any)
> or someone close to you, BUT if the world is
> really lucky You will die , and I so hope if that
> is the case, we find out your real name for I
> would gladly spit on your grave. For someone who
> didn't know Wyatt you hold a lot of hate for him,
> which leads me to believe a couple of
> things.People like you are what make this world
> such a bad place.

Wow. Murder and grave desecration. You people are really class acts.

Edit to add: I've lost close friends and family in much more tragic ways than "lost a knife fight behind 7-11." There's a difference between genuine grief and using someone's death to justify your own fucked up, selfish emotions.

It's bad enough this kid died for such a stupid reason, but it's worse that people strip him of his dignity with 40oz memorials and dogshit poems saying he's not really dead. If it wasn't for his supposed friends, a lot of people would probably think he really was a good kid.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/05/2011 11:08AM by MrMephisto.

You know, I continue to read this to see if there's any legit information about this whole awful situation. I cannot believe that out of this 11 pages, most of it is spewing hatred at the Smiths or Wyatt's family. Those of you who hate the Smiths....please just let the wheels of justice turn and pray that justice is served. Those who hate Wyatt...he's a dead kid. Do we really need to talk shit about him? 11 pages of shit?? I don't care what happened, it's a shame he was killed. But...this is no way to memorialize your friend. And....it's no way to talk about a murdered kid. Let all this end and discuss it again once the trial is over and the truth hopefully has come out.

Bring it on....I'm sure I've pissed everyone off just by making a comment.

Saddened by all of this Wrote:
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> Those who hate Wyatt...he's a dead kid. Do we
> really need to talk shit about him?

I agree with your sentiment, but I still haven't seen a lot of "talking shit" about Wyatt. Saying he made poor choices, discussing the rumors of him dealing drugs, questioning some of the "facts" people are presenting... I don't see how that's hate or shit-talking.

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I agree about poor choices - all the kids involved made poor choices. But the rumors of his drug dealing are just that - rumors. Until something is proven as fact, there's no point in throwing out a bunch of rumors about a dead kid. Just my humble opinion...

Saddened by all of this Wrote:
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> I agree about poor choices - all the kids involved
> made poor choices. But the rumors of his drug
> dealing are just that - rumors. Until something
> is proven as fact, there's no point in throwing
> out a bunch of rumors about a dead kid. Just my
> humble opinion...

Someone on the very first page of this thread, right after the news broke, posted that Wyatt sold drugs to his friends. The Patch reported that Wyatt went home to drop off some weed before the fight*. The prosecution had to specifically request that the defense not be allowed to talk about Wyatt's possible involvement with selling drugs.

One isolated comment isn't enough to fuel the rumor mill, but his involvement with drugs is a theme that keeps popping up. Just because he never got arrested for it doesn't mean he didn't do it.



* I know, this comes from Randy's testimony and everyone says he's a liar and blah blah blah, but he was still allowed to testify and is a part of this saga.

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Meph - I'm not saying that some of the rumors aren't true. Not trying to pick a fight, either. Just saying...we don't know everything. I have a child - and if she was killed, I don't think I'd want everyone repeating over and over that she was a drug dealer, even if she was. (I'm not taking sides either. There's so much stuff to sort through out there, I can't even begin to take sides. Just know that someone didn't deserve to die over all this.)

I guess I'm just a softie and wish that we all didn't have to be so hurtful to each other in this situation. I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, and they'll be another 11 pages of this before it's all over. Just don't see the benefit to anyone to badmouth anyone.

Saddened by all of this Wrote:
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> Meph - I'm not saying that some of the rumors
> aren't true. Not trying to pick a fight, either.
> Just saying...we don't know everything. I have a
> child - and if she was killed, I don't think I'd
> want everyone repeating over and over that she was
> a drug dealer, even if she was. (I'm not taking
> sides either. There's so much stuff to sort
> through out there, I can't even begin to take
> sides. Just know that someone didn't deserve to
> die over all this.)

It's difficult to see if you're close to the situation, but those things need to be discussed; if not by us, then by someone, at least.

The Smith kid is beig charged with murder 2. If the defense can prove that Wyatt was up to nefarious behavior that contributed to his own death, then the Smith kid might be found not guilty of murder 2 even if he did kill Wyatt. It might have a closer resemblance to manslaughter or something, but that's not what they're trying him for.

If prosecution witnesses echo the "he was a saint" mentality of the people on here and the defense can show otherwise, that wrecks the prosecution's credibility and could result in justice not being served. I know peoe think they're helping but thy could be doing more harm than good.

> I guess I'm just a softie and wish that we all
> didn't have to be so hurtful to each other in this
> situation. I know everyone is entitled to their
> opinion, and they'll be another 11 pages of this
> before it's all over. Just don't see the benefit
> to anyone to badmouth anyone.

I've said a couple times that what really worries me is support for the choices Wyatt made: grabbing a weapon and going to a back-alley fight for whatever reason. If kids think that sort of behavior is completely acceptable, the end result is going to be more dead/imprisoned kids.

It's the same with drunk drivers, and we've been seeing it on this message board for years; some jackass goes drunk driving and kills themselves, their passengers, or some family. People voice their contempt for the drunk driver, but there's always friends and family that show up and say the drunk driver was a "saint" or they just "made a mistake" as if there's nothing wrong with what the person did.

Just as those people are, in essence, condoning drunk driving, some of the supporters in this thread are condoning Wyatt's decision to grab a weapon instead of calling the cops. Hopefully, if any good can come from Wyatt's death, it's that people will be more attentive in the choices they make so they can avoid either Wyatt's or the Smith kid's fate.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/05/2011 01:10PM by MrMephisto.

I'm definitely with you hoping this will make other kids think about the choices they make. I just don't think kids think enough about the fact that some of their dumb decisions can destroy the rest of their lives.

My heart breaks for all the families and friends involved in this.

Mcfisto! Didn't you see the Bat Signal? There's a murder case in Great Falls! Your sleuthing skills are needed! Bring GordonBlvd, too!

The Commissioner Wrote:
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> Mcfisto! Didn't you see the Bat Signal? There's
> a murder case in Great Falls! Your sleuthing
> skills are needed! Bring GordonBlvd, too!

I bet you thought you were really clever coming up with that. Unfortunately, it's just really stupid; there's no sleuthing, investigating, discovery, mystery-solving, case-cracking, or secret-finding going on here. We're just discussing the topic.

Next time you think you have a funny witticism to share, write it down on a piece of paper and shove it up your ass.

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"Shove it up your "ass"?

Wow, that's not taking the high road..sounds like your fascination with ass-play is breaking through your brittle resolve.

I think you're losing, or should I say, "loosing" your cool there, Mcfisto...better take a quiet break, OK?

I suspect that most readers here are sick to death of your "discussing" this case.

Now go away...

This is what makes me sick about this thread. People can't have a discussion without telling someone to shove it up theirass, talking about their sexual preference, or finding some other way to degrade someone with an opposing opinion. I can tell there are lots of smart folks on here, but you lose your credibility when you can't have a discussion/argument without lowering yourself to that level.

Exit stage left....I'm done.

Saddened by all of this Wrote:
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> This is what makes me sick about this thread.
> People can't have a discussion without telling
> someone to shove it up theirass, talking about
> their sexual preference, or finding some other way
> to degrade someone with an opposing opinion. I
> can tell there are lots of smart folks on here,
> but you lose your credibility when you can't have
> a discussion/argument without lowering yourself to
> that level.
>
> Exit stage left....I'm done.

You're right. I should take Bystander's advice and ignore the trolls.

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> @MEPHISTO Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You are the biggest PIECE of Shit I have
> > encountered,You talk a lot of shit for someone
> > hiding behind a fake name. Gee, I have a
> feeling
> > though you wouldn't care to back it up in
> "REAL"
> > Life would ya??? I hope that someday soon, you
> > feel the pain of losing a child ( if you have
> any)
> > or someone close to you, BUT if the world is
> > really lucky You will die , and I so hope if
> that
> > is the case, we find out your real name for I
> > would gladly spit on your grave. For someone
> who
> > didn't know Wyatt you hold a lot of hate for
> him,
> > which leads me to believe a couple of
> > things.People like you are what make this world
> > such a bad place.
>
> Wow. Murder and grave desecration. You people are
> really class acts.
>
> Edit to add: I've lost close friends and family in
> much more tragic ways than "lost a knife fight
> behind 7-11." There's a difference between genuine
> grief and using someone's death to justify your
> own fucked up, selfish emotions.
>
> It's bad enough this kid died for such a stupid
> reason, but it's worse that people strip him of
> his dignity with 40oz memorials and dogshit poems
> saying he's not really dead. If it wasn't for his
> supposed friends, a lot of people would probably
> think he really was a good kid.

Just because you did not like that poem they posted doesn't make it wrong or a dogshit poem as you called it. You and Gordon have caused all this going back and forth with Wyatt's friends. You all post comments and sometime pictures that you know are going to create a response. Someone tried to post something that was nice and not mean spirited and because you didn't like it, you tried to make that person feel like shit for it. So I do wonder what kind of person are you? Do you act this way in "Real" Life? All of these people are grieving for someone they loved alot, not for their own " selfish" reasons. You have no clue who or what all these people are about. You and Gordon have caused all the hate and madness on this site, no one else. You keep bitching about the "Picture" your the only one posting it!!!! Which is a little weird in itself.

Saddened by all of this Wrote:
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> This is what makes me sick about this thread.
> People can't have a discussion without telling
> someone to shove it up theirass, talking about
> their sexual preference, or finding some other way
> to degrade someone with an opposing opinion. I
> can tell there are lots of smart folks on here,
> but you lose your credibility when you can't have
> a discussion/argument without lowering yourself to
> that level.
>
> Exit stage left....I'm done.

It was your "Buddy" Mephisto who told him to Shove it where the Sun don't shine,anyway little dramatic with "Exit Stage Left ....I'm done"....Oh and keep in mind since you say you are a "Newbie"... Mephisto and Grordon will turn on you too, first time you dont agree with them.

Since you called me out in yr post to Mephisto, I'm gonna tell you I havent "caused" all this hate and madness on this site in the least. And if you or ANY of Wyatt's "peeps" can SERIOUSLY feel hate or madness towards strangers on the interweb, and not focus that hate and madness towards the person who ACTUALLY DID THE KILLING - then y'all are a couple passengers shy of an HOV lane...............which may actually explain a lot.

p.s about the pic - If you can feel ashamed of a MEMORIAL PICTURE that wasnt doctored or photoshopped by anyone, than THATS ON YOU ALL!! Should've thought about that before you made it. Cant imagine how ANYONE would make a memorial picture of someone, then be ashamed about the MEMORIAL being shown about - most ppl would be PROUD of their Memorial - as that's what it's supposed to be about.

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> Since you called me out in yr post to Mephisto,
> I'm gonna tell you I havent "caused" all this hate
> and madness on this site in the least. And if you
> or ANY of Wyatt's "peeps" can SERIOUSLY feel hate
> or madness towards strangers on the interweb, and
> not focus that hate and madness towards the person
> who ACTUALLY DID THE KILLING - then y'all are a
> couple passengers shy of an HOV
> lane...............which may actually explain a
> lot.
>
> p.s about the pic - If you can feel ashamed of a
> MEMORIAL PICTURE that wasnt doctored or
> photoshopped by anyone, than THATS ON YOU ALL!!
> Should've thought about that before you made it.
> Cant imagine how ANYONE would make a memorial
> picture of someone, then be ashamed about the
> MEMORIAL being shown about - most ppl would be
> PROUD of their Memorial - as that's what it's
> supposed to be about.

I am not ashamed of the picture, the comment was that for someone who thought it was so distasteful you seem to post it a lot, do not try and turn around what was said to suit you.

Trust and Believe there is HATE for Steven Smith, David Smith and Randy Taylor. But the fact still remains no matter how you try and again turn this into your Twisted Logic, You and your Friend have made remarks, and posts, and pictures that you knew would upset and piss off people who just lost Wyatt. I would think you would atleast be man enough to own up to that. guess not. like I said about Mephisto, I have a feeling you would not be so vocal in "REAL LIFE".

So it seems Randy is not the innocent Witness Everyone thought, I do believe that some people did say on here that he had lied since the beginning which was pionted out in THE PATCHH this afternoon

Do you really think you're "discussing" this topic?, Macfisto? All you and your partner are doing is repeatedly posting and pontificating (look that word up, Gordo, or do you eschew dictionaries?), making the same non-points over and over again, reveling in the fact that you're making some of the victim's friends mad.

In the words of Senator Welch during the Army-McCarthy hearings, "You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?"

Of course, that would make you two Mcarthy and Roy Cohn, which is quite appropriate..a rabid asshole, and an angry gay in denial...you two can fight over who's who.

Paraphrasing the classy writing style of Macfisto, the next time you either one of you feel like adding something witty to this thread, why don't you carefully type it down, and then shove the keyboard up your ass...

@Commissioner - debate much?

@Liar - link please

@Gimme - this is "REAL LIFE" - I think you mean "face to face"

No I meant REAL LIFE .. You call it FACE TO FACE .... but this is just Cyber Land , its not total reality because anyone can lie about who they are, etc..Are you that computer stupid that you cant to THE PATCH's Website and read the article, I saw you asked for a link, look it up your damn self.

No I meant REAL LIFE .. You call it FACE TO FACE .... but this is just Cyber Land , its not total reality because anyone can lie about who they are, etc..Are you that computer stupid that you cant to THE PATCH's Website and read the article, I saw you asked for a link, look it up your damn self.

Hey GordonBlvd, why don't you take a break from the Rose Hill Case, go back and revive the thread where you hectored the friends and family of the woman who recently comitted suicide...you really seemed to enjoy that chance to show off your vast psychological insight...

Paging Gordon Super Cyber Sleuth and his partner Mephisto....Quick there has been a stabbing at Brookfield Plaza!!!! Hurry they need your input

The Commissioner Wrote:
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> ... repeatedly posting and pontificating ...
> making the same non-points over and over again

Couldn't the same be said for the "other side" of this discussion?

I got sucked into this drama because I think it's an interesting situation for a number of reasons:

1. The prosecution is using a witness that everyone says is a liar, even though discrediting Randy would actually help the defense's case.

2. Conspiracy theories swirling around about hidden safes, involvement from "Tony" or some "KC" chick, set-ups, frame-ups, planting evidence, and basically everything but government operatives and black helicopters.

3. Inconsistencies between what people SAY are the facts and what have been demonstrated to actually BE facts. For example, people originally said he was stabbed over 20 times when the actual number is 12. People say Wyatt was set up for murder by one of his friends, but evidence shows a prior altercation before the stabbing.

4. The mentality of the people supporting the "Wyatt did absolutely nothing wrong" notion. Requests for explanations or challenges to the conspiracy theories are met with anything from name calling to wishing that certain people die to borderline death threats.

5. People say he was a good kid that just like to go fishing a lot, but then they put up memorial pictures of him drinking 40s and get heated if anyone talks about the picture. On and on and on...

> reveling in the fact that you're
> making some of the victim's friends mad.

That's a construct of your imagination. I've said at least ten times (not including this one) that I don't think Wyatt deserved to die, I hope justice for his murderer(s) is achieved, and I hope people make better life choices so they don't end up dead or in jail, as well.

But yes, when I ask a question or make an observation and someone distorts it so they can sling an insult about me and Gordon being homosexual lovers, I see no reason why I should be civil with that person anymore.

> In the words of Senator Welch during the
> blah blah blah blah

You're comparing a discussion of some dead kid and his murderer to the Communist Inquisition. You are taking this way, way more seriously than I have or will.

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Actually, I'm just having fun with you, you blowhard..I don't take you seriously at all...

The Commissioner Wrote:
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> Actually, I'm just having fun with you, you
> blowhard..I don't take you seriously at all...

Of course you are.

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So, Macfisto, taking the high road, I see. Not quite up there with your droll ""why don't you shut the fuck up," but still, what a funny little cartoon.

Interesting how it's the same style as the one that GordonBlvd favors...

@Mr Mephisto - you see, we MUST be the same person because that's the only way someone would be able to figure out how to use the "Attach a file" button LoLz. This thread is fascinating as well because I have seen how small some ppls minds can be, eh?

@Female - why dont you?

@For Gordon - if you cant do it, just say so.

Actually, we refer to it as multiple personalities.
Anyway, if you go back through the last 5 or 6 pages, you will find that most of the posts are from You, MrMeth, or somebody complaining about your short commings.

which would, if true, mean that more ppl care more about us that the actual thread topic? how pathetic is it that Mr Meph and I are the only ones actually focusing on the topic at hand?

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> which would, if true, mean that more ppl care more
> about us that the actual thread topic? how
> pathetic is it that Mr Meph and I are the only
> ones actually focusing on the topic at hand?

I wasn't going to bother pointing that out, but since you did, that's exactly right; we are two people talking about some kid getting stabbed in Rose Hill, and there are several people talking only about us.

We got trolled.

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The more I troll you, the less you bother the Wyatt family...

Anyone can post a cartoon, but the same STYLE cartoon...

LoLz

No. You two are TROLLS



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Flaxom the Elder Wrote:
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> The more I troll you, the less you bother the
> Wyatt family...

1. It's the Campbell family, not the Wyatt family.

2. Who's bothering the Campbell family?

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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>
> 1. It's the Campbell family, not the Wyatt family.
>
>
> 2. Who's bothering the Campbell family?

Wrong again. You must have the FU record for posting the most mis leading info as fact.

Bystander Wrote:
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> MrMephisto Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > 1. It's the Campbell family, not the Wyatt
> family.
> >
> >
> > 2. Who's bothering the Campbell family?
>
> Wrong again. You must have the FU record for
> posting the most mis leading info as fact.

LOL. You're a special kind of stupid.

http://kingstowne.patch.com/articles/if-they-called-the-cops-im-screwed-fight-participant-testifies-in-rose-hill-murder-trial

"The trial of a Rose Hill teen accused of murder continued Tuesday afternoon, with testimony from one of only four people believed to have witnessed the fight that allegedly resulted in the death of Wyatt Campbell."

Maybe you should start with "ass or hole in the ground" and work your way up from there.

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MrMephisto, I think Bystander was alluding to the party line about the Campbell family—"didn't claim him in life, don't try to claim him in death"—and that the aggrieved party is the Meegan family.



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> MrMephisto, I think Bystander was alluding to the
> party line about the Campbell family—"didn't
> claim him in life, don't try to claim him in
> death"—and that the aggrieved party is the
> Meegan family.

If that's the case, then Bystander should spend less time on here calling me a troll and more time correcting the Kingstown Patch, the defense, the prosecution, the jury, the hospital, the police, the DMV, and whoever posted this picture:



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Meth, your an idiot. Plain and simple.

You've posted probably over 100 posts on this thread alone, but it seems that you distort the threads that others write.

I never met Wyatt Campbell but at least I can comprehend what I read.
Wyatt Campbell may have been the only one in the houshold to cary the Campbell name.

Listen asswipe, I'm getting sick of having to repeatably correct you and Gordon Blvd. Wouldn't be more fun to troll a different forum every once in a while?

About the PIC: You MrMeth were the first to post that pic on this tread and you did it to cause as much harm as you could.



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> I never met Wyatt Campbell but at least I can
> comprehend what I read.

Not from what I've seen. If that was true, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

> Wyatt Campbell was the only one in the houshold to
> cary the Campbell name. He didn't have anything to
> do with his astranged father for years.
>
> Listen asswipe, I'm getting sick of having to
> repeatably correct you and Gordon Blvd. Wouldn't
> be more fun to troll a different forum every once
> in a while?

You're right, it's the Wyatt family. Dumbass.

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Wyatt's family

Actually, I think GordonBlvd and MrMephisto are voices of reason in this dialog. Keep up the good work and the valid, interesting postings.
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Nah, just kidding. You two are complete assholes.

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> Wyatt's family

Oh. See, I was confused because I actually read what the guy wrote.

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> The more I troll you, the less you bother the Wyatt family...

Now, go ahead and correct him since that is clearly your sacred duty.

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No need. I, (unlike you) could comprehend what the poster had intended.

This thread didn't turn bad from me and Gordon discussing the topic. It went bad from people turning it into a flame war because we dared to question Wyatt's sainthood.

I do know one thing for certain: Mr. Wyatt sure had some shitty friends.

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And you're the only one on this thread to ever compare him to a saint. No other posters have mentioned the word saint.

Yes, Mrmeth you contributed to the demise of this thread by repeatably making posts in an effort to harrass and undermind those grieving the death of Wyatt Campbell. Start with your second thread. If you find more that 5 that you have written since that don't take a stab at someone, then please point them out.



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mephisto and gordon jus shut the fukk up. y'all went wrong when y'all dropped down to these ppls level. wyatt was a punkass bitch who fukked around wit the wrong nigga and got ventalated thats all there is too it. these other fools obviously in denial and cant see the truth cuz they got wyatts dick in there mouth. they talkin bout ppl bein evil and hoping steven gets punked up the ass for the next 40 years. callin everyone that dont agree wit them stupid or part of the smith family. why y'all even botherin wit these losers. they just wannabe thugs like there dead homey and thats all they ever gone be.

I invite those delusional friends and family of Mr. Campbell who've claimed that Gordon Blvd and/or MrMephisto are members of the Smith family to compare Gordo's and Meph's posts to that of "the truth" above. I submit that one of these things is not like the others.

God - please follow along. Never said I was a newbie. This is how even the stupidest of stuff gets made up on here.

I'm a big girl...don't mind anyone turning on me. Thanks for the concern though. (rolling eyes)

Do you all have nothing better to do than fight over who is right??? I'd like to borrow the switchblade and fall on it after reading 11 pages of this shit. Wouldn't you rather have a life than argue with a bunch of idiots about this? Wyatt could be a nice kid, but he was a fuck up. Steven could be a nice kid, but he was a fuck up. David could be a nice kid, but he was a fuck up.

They all fucked up. How much more do you need to argue about this? Damn...

You're next to be charged randy

all I know personally is that I dont like children nor adults deciding to take weapons to fight behind shopping centers in this county - and I'll continue to point that out until the cows come home, no matter how many ppl want to turn it into "Oh, Gordon's hating up on our boy"

And if the makers of that MEMORIAL picture are ashamed of what they've done, they need to stop blaming me or Mr Mephisto for it - as I know I never did anything to doctor it up


Anywho , nobody's forced to come here and read what either of us have to say - it's NOT yr house. If you dont like it, click that black "X" in the top right of yr screen - it'll help you to have a better life, I guess.

@Jesus - you read the 11 pages of this crap? - wow, you gotta have a cast iron stomach LoLz

@Saddened - more twist than Chubby Checker around here :-/

@thetruth......................I hate that yr right about dropping down a cpl levels (edit) but a lot of ppl would call me out by name, so I'd respond in kind - not an excuse, just an explanation................

@Bystander, you've done the exact same thing yr accusing Mephisto and myself of - flamewar and troll ppl who disagree with you

@Mr Meph - I am STILL trying to figure out where the golf club fits into all of this......................also still amazed how ppl will focus more than the topic on hand O_o

oops - forgot the unrelated pic :)



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I read this thread everyday but normally do not comment. I read the other one as well. I grew up in Rose Hill, I have to say this is the first that I can remember of anything like this happening. It is Tragic and Sad yet what I find tragic and sad as well is the people on this site who seem to think that the murder victim is at fault.


It does not matter if I do not like the guy who works at the local drug store, maybe I don't like him because he is rude and never says Good Morning back to me, I am not going to kill him over it, or lets say I find out he he was murdered I am not going to say " Well he was rude, so he brought it on himself".

@Gordon You keep saying something to the effect of murder happening in Fairfax County is just not acceptable, Are you BLIND???? Murder happens all over FairFax County weather we like it or not, I dont like it anymore then the next person, but really no matter where you live it happens, Sorry Charlie, But there is no such place as "Some where over the Rainbow"

you keep comparing it to turning into PG county, You better start with our great court system then, The Judges are the ones that Keep letting repeat offenders out and then they commit the same crime till the next time when it results in murder.

Case in point Steven Smith he was out on probation for a few charges one of which was assault with a deadly weapon that was confirmed on here by someone who was in the court room. yet while out on probation what happened this time HE MURDERED SOMEONE.

Also this much I have noticed defense keeps saying Wyatt robbed Steven well for the sake of argument that Wyatt did, He didn't kill him. Yet Someone said in a earlier posting that they had a gun to "Rob" wyatt. yet They didnt they "MURDERED" him.

You don't have to be a genius to see after reading Randy Taylor's Testimony that there are a lot of things that do not make sense. Like Sorry but if you had been stabbed 12 times I do not think you would be able to " Jog" to a Car, not buying it. Why would you leave your Friend to go change???? Just doesn't add up.

It will be interesting to see what happens after his grandmother and brother testify.

I have a Son and Daughter Wyatt's Age. Twins. I feel for his family. I Hope and Pray they get the Justice that Wyatt and they so Deserve.

@ Gordon Blvd and Mr. Mephisto, though I do not believe you are one in the same as people have said, I did notice that Mephisto has been a member since 2008, and Gordon since March of this year. And all of sudden you all just flock together, a little strange. I can't remember who posted it but one they said is true You all have said and posted rude and mean words and pics to get a rise out of all of Wyatt's loved ones. My question is why? What possible sick pleasure do you get out of it, You say your not related to The Smith Family. So then what?? because there is no way that you two or atleast Gordon dosn't have some kind of personal reason for all this??

That is other point I agree with you are so quick to act like a jacksass on here , I doubt you have the balls to say it in person.

@Truth - so let me see if I get you straight - since "murder happens all over Fairfax County weather we like it or not", that makes it ACCEPTABLE? That's a silly thesis in and of itself - dont know why you would even state that.

But anyways, that's not what I said. You can play the Chubby Checker Twist all you want, but WHAT I SAID IS "I dont like children nor adults deciding to take weapons to fight behind shopping centers in this county", something that BOTH parties of this sad situation did, something that DOES NOT happen everyday all over this county, and something that if EITHER of these geniuses had CHOSEN not to do, would have resulted in Wyatt Campbell still being alive. That's the issue I'm focusing on, not murder in general but the streetfighting that can result in murder.

Dont get pleasure out of it - dont know how you can think that. And if I'm a jackass cause I dont want children or adults fighting with weapons on shopping center property in Fairfax County, then so be it.

And yeah, prolly wouldnt say it "in person" to thugs who would want to answer me with physical violence instead of logical debate. Seems stupid. But if you could handle using yr mind instead of yr fists, then sure I would.

Gee, maybe so many think you are a jackass because you have in the past gone out of your way to harrass so many posters here. Or maybe it is as simple as the forum trash (unrelated jpgs and clips) that you leave behind.
Anyway, I'm sure you have noticed that I'm not the only poster pointing this out to you.
I did esculate the pointing out of your trolling earlier until you curtailled that activity, and I thank you.
You have also decided to link yourself up with MrMeth (a proven true asswipe), so you have to expect to take some flack for that.

It's not just me pointing this out to you, and bystander is just a user name on this forum.

Excuse the off topic...

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> What possible sick pleasure do you get out of it,
> You say your not related to The Smith Family. So
> then what?? because there is no way that you two
> or atleast Gordon dosn't have some kind of
> personal reason for all this??

This hypocritical bullshit is why I'm not going to bother with you idiots anymore. Yes, clearly I get a perverse, sick pleasure out of discussing the circumstances surrounding a stabbing in Rose Hill, but there's absolutely nothing twisted about hoping a 15 year-old kid gets sent to prison so older men can rape him for the next twenty years or so.

Thanks for clearing that up.

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@Bystander - man, you make my head spin with the hypocrisy. You cant point out even one harassment of a poster I've here, yet you started up with that five/ten lbs thingee trolling.

Lotsa posters hate me - first, it was the Confederates hating me for calling them traitors to the Union. Then it was parents who didnt like I wasnt on board with their racist crap about TJ. Cyclists who want to block traffic and ppl who think streetfights on other ppls property are the ones who currently have a hate-on for me. No worries, though - cause I know I dont troll, just piss ppl off cause I have an opinion different from theirs and they cant shut me up or stab me, or whatever it is they want.

Site moderator (you know, the person/ppl whos place this ACTUALLY IS) has neer seen a need to ban me, so I know I'm not doing anything wrong - it's just y'all getting all butthurt over my opinions - to which I say again Click that black "X" at the top right of yr screen if it hurts you that much. Me, I will continue to state as I have before - that streetfighting behind shopping centers is NOT NORMAL BEHAVIOUR!

p.s. I havent changed a damn thing - you quit doing the whole "Gordon's a troll" thing cause others pointed out to you that a) I wasnt trolling and b) you were being ten times the troll by targeting my posts and doing that whole color HTML thingee.


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> @Truth - so let me see if I get you straight -
> since "murder happens all over Fairfax County
> weather we like it or not", that makes it
> ACCEPTABLE? That's a silly thesis in and of
> itself - dont know why you would even state that.
>
> But anyways, that's not what I said. You can play
> the Chubby Checker Twist all you want, but WHAT I
> SAID IS "I dont like children nor adults deciding
> to take weapons to fight behind shopping centers
> in this county", something that BOTH parties of
> this sad situation did, something that DOES NOT
> happen everyday all over this county, and
> something that if EITHER of these geniuses had
> CHOSEN not to do, would have resulted in Wyatt
> Campbell still being alive. That's the issue I'm
> focusing on, not murder in general but the
> streetfighting that can result in murder.
>
> Dont get pleasure out of it - dont know how you
> can think that. And if I'm a jackass cause I dont
> want children or adults fighting with weapons on
> shopping center property in Fairfax County, then
> so be it.
>
> And yeah, prolly wouldnt say it "in person" to
> thugs who would want to answer me with physical
> violence instead of logical debate. Seems stupid.
> But if you could handle using yr mind instead of
> yr fists, then sure I would.

I never said it was acceptable to fight with weapons or even fight at all. There you GO AGAIN, twisting my words to fit your agenda, I said I didn't like it anymore then you, but it is a fact that fights happen allover FairFax County case in point, what 3 days ago there was a stabbing at Brookfield Plaza In Springfield.

You can not be that stupid that you don't realize that if they had not killed him that night, it would have been then the next time, they had been looking for him to attack him since June, David and Steven admitted that in the search warrant interview. It is like I have said before even had Wyatt just been walking the street minding his own business and these two jumped him and stabbed him to death, you would still find some how to turn around into making it Wyatt's doing.

Which is kinda what already happened, Wyatt was in a Car minding his own business when David Smith approached him and punched him. Not the other way around. David and Steven Smith are the ones who decided that 7-11 was not enough that they would go and get a BB GUN that looked "real" to make Wyatt and Randy give back the IPOD, Which is funny considering in court yesterday one of Steven's Friends testified that Wyatt did not even touch them or take anything from them, and the other friend was clearly lying on the stand about Wyatt had pushed Steven against a fence, since in a earlier statement to Police he admitted Wyatt did nothing to them the night in question regarding the IPOD and CELL PHONE.

Seems to me all of these reliable witnesses have lied, Randy, Not sure about Tony do not know what all he was asked, and David. David said in a earlier statement to Police that Steven never got out of the car the night of Oct 14, 2010, yet under oath he said he did, so Hmmmm seems to be alot of lying which would lead one to think they are all trying to Cover their asses about what really happened that night.

yeah and I have a problem believing that Wyatt was able to get up and "jog" to Tony's Car to go to the hospital for a couple of reasons. 1) after 12 stab wounds and hearing where they were cant see him getting up at all by himself. also I have a hard time believing that with his grandmother's house right there and his Mom the other side of the street, that if he was able to get up he would have gone home and them call a Amublance,

I get the feeling there is a lot of stuff being covered up

Gordon Blvd, you claim you aren't trolling. You talk of hypocrisy and then turn right around and post another jpg that is unrelated to the topic. All in the same post. Scan through the last 11 pages and you will see lots of unrelated trash that you have left behind. That is defind as trolling.
And you have the nerver to complain about me pointing you out.
So there are 11 pages here and 6 about Steven Smith. You have left a lot of trash but not offered anything of intelectual value. Now what does that say for your integety? I'll leave that for you to decide.
You say a lot of users hate you. Well I don't feel any hate torwards you, nor can I hold any respect for the posts you have written. I do hate wasting time dealing with your issues this way.
So, I'll just be blunt:
Gordon Blvd, you have been using that username here for a few months and written a few thousand posts. If you haven't found what you seek then maybe life would be better for you to just let Gordon Blvd die, and go find something more full filing in life while you still have a chance. Life is too short as it is.

Please excuse the off topic
Peace

Well said, Bystander...

Yep, I agree with Random.

" There is more to the World than Sunshine and Lollipops"

@Gordon
Read the latest article. No BB-gun, etc....
The victim was not an innocent bystander, the victim had a violent, drug dealing reputation. The victim was known as a bully that picked on kids younger than himself. The victim attacked a kid with a baseball bat. The victim's cell phone had a picture of his safe with a very large quantity of pot and cash. The victim was known by many Edison and Mark Twain kids. The victim and his brother were called white stupid trash behind their backs from many of the kids at Edison and throughout the neighborhood and beyond. The only thing good about them were the drugs they could supply. He was not an innocent 18 year old. The cover up could be that Tony was definitely involved but since he's a felon he's not going to admit to his part. Who knows he could have made the fatal stab on the way to the hospital. There was a knife in his jeep that fit the dimensions of some of the wounds, why the police did not confiscate and analyze is the big question. Steven Smith had a mouth on him but could never back it up because he was scared of his own shadow, not a tough guy, just barked a lot. The boy does not come close to Wyatt, Randy, Tony; and the rest of the gang. Don't believe everything that you read on these threads, there was no innocent angel. Great deal of trash in Rose Hill.

The knife in tones car did not fit the dimensions of the knife that killed wyatt. There are a lot of smith victims in the area, perhaps if you actually got your head out of your ass you would hear some of them. The kid who steven smith chased with a knife, the man who david smith beat up last fall in the mans own home. Watch out franconia, the murdering smiths are free.

Not guilty huh... Will we see some sorta retaliation? More violence? .. What about the walls of the shopping center? Will they be Wyatt free tomorrow? I would say that the the friends of Wyatt will make sure of that there not. It's all sad. Very sad.

Since Wyatt's friends and family have not once retaliated why would you suggest such a thing now. Don't be an ass

Not guilty verdict came out this morning..

http://rosehill.patch.com/articles/defendant-in-wyatt-campbell-murder-trial-found-not-guilty

How dare you all who sit here and trash Wyatt no matter what your personal opinion of him was it dosent matter the fact is he died so no matter how much some of you don't like him guess who is reading this MOTHER she reads this crap and cries over people who aren't worth it I think its pathedic that some of u have nothing better to do than speak ill of the dead have you ever heard of the term don't speak ill of the dead probly not since all of u are a bunch of illerate selfish inconciterate people, you are so discusting you all who trashed him make me sick!!!!!! You guys r the scum of th earth! Just sayin- this is for the people who trashed him and my heart goes out to his family

cant believe it hes not guilty..
its not right
wyatt no matter what everyone knows the truth
we all love u and miss you so much

This incident did not suprise me so Im just saying its kinda what people are lookin out for? Are you saying no one has ever wrote anything on the back of the shopping center? Obviously you dont have to look at it everyday. Mourn the dead with a little more class PLEASE!

Who ever oversees these threads, it is know time to put this and the other one away.
Enough pain and heartaches for both families!

@The End - I'm pretty sure the families of these boys have better things to do than waste their time with strangers on the interweb

@howdare you - really? Im pretty sure she has more of a life than to sit around reading the thoughts of complete strangers, much less caring about them


@Bystansder - you really need to quit stalking me - if you dont like what I post, STFU and move on - plain and simple. And in the future, when you post on a thread and want to avoid being a COMPLETE hypocrite..............
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Why are you still here? The Trial is Over, We all know you are just dying to rub in it in, So do it, get it out of your system and move on. Leave his Friends to Post their thoughts without nasty and smart ass comments from you and your peanut gallery. Show some compassion if you are capeable

to rub it in? what sorta planet are you from? It's a public forum. I'm not invading his friends house or anything? Learn that other ppl have opinions, that they are free as heck to post them on this OPEN, PUBLIC FORUM, and deal with it. Or, if you prefer, talk about Wyatt in the privaciy of yr own home, webiste, whatever, and leave this place alone

Either way, yes, trial is over - Defendant is not guilty, and Wyatt would still be alive if he hadnt left his house to go meet up with someone to fight.

Kiddos - TAKE NOTE! Your friends and family can be hurt if you dont think about them if you leave yr house to go out and get involved in a streetfight


Nah - better to forget all about them and just hate me for even bringing it up, right?

These threads are not good for either family, they need to be put to bed.

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> to rub it in? what sorta planet are you from?
> It's a public forum. I'm not invading his friends
> house or anything? Learn that other ppl have
> opinions, that they are free as heck to post them
> on this OPEN, PUBLIC FORUM, and deal with it. Or,
> if you prefer, talk about Wyatt in the privaciy
> of yr own home, webiste, whatever, and leave this
> place alone
>
> Either way, yes, trial is over - Defendant is not
> guilty, and Wyatt would still be alive if he hadnt
> left his house to go meet up with someone to
> fight.
>
> Kiddos - TAKE NOTE! Your friends and family can
> be hurt if you dont think about them if you leave
> yr house to go out and get involved in a
> streetfight
>
>
> Nah - better to forget all about them and just
> hate me for even bringing it up, right?


i realize it is a public forum, I am not a Idiot, BUT just because it is free and open to you to post whatever you want, Does not mean you have too. There are over 100 plus rooms you could go annoy. Since you so interested in Stabbings in Shopping Center's I think there is one about BrookField Plaza like 30 doors down. I don't hate you, I feel Sorry for you, that you have nothing better to do then badger and make fun of people on the internet. Oh as far as your kids you made a comment that they would never ever do anything like this, I dont know hoe old they are but if they are teens or will be soon, You can bet a dollar they are going to do some things you wont know about, You can raise your kids the way you see is right and hope they act with common sense etc. But sometimes they can still steer off that Path whether you like it or not. which leds to my next questions, If you have kids why are you always on here discussing a kid who is gone, Kinda Creepy and Weird.

when have I made fun of someone on the internet? Show me one post.

NOt interested in stabbing - waaaaaaaaaay more fascinated with the whole "pro-streetfighting lobby" that has permeated this thread, though - like it's a common way of life or something.

and yeah, my kids are gonna do stuff I dont know about................ROBBING OTHERS will not be one of them. Im sure they will hang out behind shopping centers - wont have weapons with them when they do, getting into streetfights, k?

And no, creepy and weird is if I leave my house to go fight other children behind a shopping center............or focusing on one COMPLETE STRANGER on the interweb instead of moving on with yr life - that's pretty creepy and weird in and of itself. o_0

'If They Called the Cops, I'm Screwed': Fight Participant Testifies in Rose Hill Murder Trial
Correction: This article originally stated that Wyatt Campbell said, "If they called the cops, I'm screwed." Randy Taylor actually said that at trial, and the article has been corrected to reflect that. Kingstowne Patch regrets the error.
Randy Taylor, 21, testified that he was hanging out with Campbell the night he died, and later joined him in a fight.
Taylor's testimony preceded accusations from the defendant's attorney that he would lie on the stand to cover up an alleged drug-dealing relationship between Taylor; Campbell; and a third man who drove Campbell to the hospital after the fight and, according to the defense, participated in it.
Patch is currently declining to identify the third man because he is being accused of crimes, and it's not clear yet whether he is a minor. Tony Perez-
These accusations were made with the jury outside the room because Judge Brett A. Kassabian had excluded mention of alleged drug dealing, ruling that drugs were not involved in Campbell's death.
On October 14, in a time period identified between 9:30 p.m. and 10:15 p.m., Taylor drove Campbell to Rose Hill to drop him off. First, though, they stopped at the 7-Eleven in the Rose Hill Shopping Center so Taylor could buy Campbell cigarettes.
According to Taylor, Campbell didn't have his identification on him, and he looked too young to buy without one.
As the two pulled up to the 7-Eleven, Taylor said, the defendant's older brother approached Campbell, still in the car.
"Did you get my brother?" Taylor testified hearing the man ask Campbell. According to a witness statement to police, Campbell and two other boys, pretending to be police officers, had robbed the defendant and some of his friends.
Taylor then said the defendant's older brother punched Campbell in the side of the head. Asked by Greenberg to explain how the brother punched Campbell, Taylor offered to demonstrate.
"I'm going to play it out just like Hollywood for you, man," he said.
With the defendant still in another car, Campbell and the older brother began yelling at each other.
"It was just like the heat of the moment," Taylor said. "Everybody was talking crap."
Taylor didn't want to fight in front of the 7-Eleven for several reasons: he was on probation for a felony offense, he knew the store had surveillance cameras, and there was a small amount of marijuana in the car.
"People are going to call the cops there," he testified.
Taylor tried to maneuver his car out of the parking lot. After being initially blocked by the defendant's brother, he succeeded, and drove to Campbell's grandmother's home, in a nearby apartment complex. Taylor said it was clear the encounter with the defendant and his brother was not finished.
"An example needs to be set," he testified.
Campbell and Taylor began walking from Campbell's grandmother's home to a sidestreet behind the 7-Eleven, a distance of about a block-and-a-half.
Greenberg pressed Taylor on whether Campbell was carrying a golf club, because a broken golf club was found at the scene of the crime. Taylor said he never saw what Campbell was carrying, because Campbell was behind him the whole time.
Taylor eventually conceded that Campbell was in front of him when they returned to the 7-Eleven to find out if the police had been called.
If they called the cops, I'm screwed," Taylor said at trial, then added that he just wanted to know. He said he still did not see if Campbell had a golf club.
Soon after that, the two friends met with the brothers behind the convenience store. Taylor punched the older brother, who he says was aiming a toy gun at him. The brother responded by hitting Taylor with the gun.
"It was one of my longer fights," Taylor said.
Meanwhile, Taylor said, he saw the defendant on top of Campbell, then fighting with Campbell against a fence. Still, Taylor said he didn't see much of the other half of the fight.
"It's like television," he said. "All you're seeing is your opponent."
Eventually, another friend of Campbell's arrived. While the defense maintains this third man helped throughout the fight, Taylor said that he couldn't remember how long his friend, who is about 6 feet tall, weighing between 250 and 300 pounds, according to Taylor, was there.
As the fight ended, this third man took Campbell to the hospital. Although Taylor said he never saw the defendant stab Campbell, he testified that Campbell seemed short of breath.
"This n**** hit me in my lung," Taylor recalled Campbell saying to him as he left, using a racial slur.
After the fight, Taylor said, he went to a friend's house, changed clothes, and went to the hospital. Greenberg, in arguments with the jury out of the room, said that Taylor had used the time after the fight to hide a safe containing marijuana.
The defense seized on several seeming discrepancies between Taylor's testimony at the trial and earlier statements to police.
Taylor initially said he only talked to the third man, briefly, at the hospital, but when confronted by a call between him and the man after the fight, he acknowledged that they talked briefly.
Taylor also did not have an explanation for why his phone was found in the third man's car at the hospital.
It's a mystery to me, too," he said.
Taylor was asked whether Campbell usually carried a knife. An officer at the hospital found a spring-loaded knife in Campbell's personal effects.
I never knew him to carry a weapon," Taylor said. "He carried a utility knife."
Several other witnesses testified in the afternoon. Devinder Singh, the owner of the Rose Hill 7-Eleven, testified about his store's surveillance camera.
Homicide detective Stephen Needls also testified about the custody of the video tape from the night that was given to police. No video was shown in the trial.
Detective John Tuller, a crime scene investigator with FCPD, testified about the scene in the hospital where Campbell died from his wounds. Tuller showed the shirt Campbell had been wearing in the hospital: a white polo shirt with blue stripes, about half of it stained with what looked like blood.
Investigating the car that took Campbell to the hospital, Tuller said, he found several blood stains and a wooden-handled knife with no blood on it.
FCPD homicide Detective Eric Dean, the lead investigator on the case, also testified about getting a DNA swab from the defendant's mouth.
Finally, Detective Michael S. Lamper testified about various pieces of evidence that he saw at the crime scene, including blood stains and the broken golf club.

Defense Calls Victim's Grandmother, Brother in Murder Trial
It was a day for expert witnesses, foggy memories, and disputed testimonies as the prosecution rested its argument and the defense began calling witnesses in the second day of a Rose Hill teen accused of murder.
Tony Perez:
The defense, after pointing out that Perez was on felony probation on the night of Campbell's death, asked Perez whether he participated in the fight.
According to the defense's theory of the fight, Perez helped Campbell and Taylor fight the defendant and his older brother. The prosecution holds that Perez was not involved.
"You know you're under oath right now?" defense attorney Cary Greenberg asked Perez after he denied involvement in the fight.

Medical Examiner:
According to Dr. A Wayne Williams, Campbell received 12 stab wounds on his body, two of which would be fatal. Williams said that the stab wounds were consistent with a fight.

Motion to Strike:
Homicide requires malice, Greenberg said, arguing that even taking the Commonwealth's evidence in the most positive light showed no malice on the defendant's part.
"All the facts show no intent to kill," Greenberg said, saying that when Campbell tried to leave the fight, the defendant allowed him to. If the defendant wanted to kill the wounded Campbell, according to the defense, he would have pursued him.
Kassabian declined to strike the charge, citing the use of a weapon and the length of the stab wounds Campbell received as evidence of malice.

Campbell's Reputation:
The defense called two teenaged friends of the defendant to the stand as witnesses. One night during the summer of 2010, the three teens were allegedly ambushed by Campbell and two other older boys. Pretending to be police, the older teens stole the younger teens' phones and iPods.
The teens said they didn't report the crime because their parents didn't know they were out so late. The robbery is supposedly what precipitated the argument at the 7-Eleven.
One of the defendant's friends said Campbell had a reputation for violence.
"People knew who he was and they always talked about the stuff he did," he said, although he added that Campbell didn't touch him during the robbery.
The defendant's other friend, however, disagreed, saying that Campbell had pushed the defendant against a fence and frisked him, looking for valuables.
When prosecutor Camille Turner asked the witness whether he had already told police in an earlier statement that Campbell hadn't pushed anyone, the witness said he didn't recall saying that and insisted that Campbell was involved in the robbery.

Campbell's Family:
The defense called Mary Ann Meegan, Campbell's grandmother, to testify. After the argument at the 7-Eleven, Taylor and Campbell went to Meegan's nearby apartment before heading to the fight behind the convenience store.
Meegan said that Campbell stayed at her home for between 15 and 20 minutes.
Meegan said her grandson left with a golf club, the first admission by anyone associated with Campbell in the case that he had taken a golf club to the fight. A broken golf club shaft was found near the crime scene after the fight.
During cross-examination, defense attorney Caroline Costle asked Meegan if she remembered telling a Fairfax County Police Department detective that Campbell had only stayed in the apartment for a few minutes, instead of the 15-20 minutes she testified to in court. Meegan said that she remembered giving the earlier statement.
"He was happy when he came home," Meegan said. "He was angry when he left."

After Meegan, the defense called William Campbell, Campbell's 20-year-old brother.
Greenberg, who has been prevented from producing evidence about Wyatt Campbell's possible history of marijuana dealing with Taylor and Perez by a ruling from the judge, asked William Campbell whether, the day after the murder, he told FCPD Detective Dan Bibeault that his younger brother had been involved in a drug deal that went sour.
William Campbell said he didn't recall making any statement like that. When Greenberg asked him if he'd like to see the interview where he allegedly said it, Campbell refused, saying he knows what he said.
Immediately after Campbell, the defense called Bibeault to the stand. Bibeault said that William Campbell did tell him that his younger brother had told him about a recent drug deal gone bad, and explained how he chased at least one person down the street with a baseball bat as a result.
Campbell's cell phone showed his safe which had between 1/2lb - 1/lb and cash, $10K.

The Defendant's Brother:
David, 24, worked at a Gamestop store in October 2010. After getting off work on October 14, he picked up his younger brother and took him to the 7-Eleven to buy drinks and cigarettes, but realized he didn't have any money.
As he left the store, David said, his brother pointed out Campbell sitting nearby in a car. When David confronted him, Campbell laughed, and David pushed his head.
David said Campbell then tried to get out of the car while pulling the spring-loaded knife that was later found amongst his personal effects in the hospital.
"I'm going to get you," David recalls Campbell saying to him. Soon, though, Taylor convinced Campbell not to fight in front of the store.
The two brothers left the 7-Eleven, and David came up with a plan. He'd pretend that a broken Airsoft pellet pistol they had at home was actually a real gun, and threaten Campbell and Taylor until they gave back his brother's stolen iPod.
After the brothers went to the alley, though, the plan fell apart, according to David's testimony. Campbell arrived with Taylor and Perez, and none of them were scared by the broken toy gun.
"[Perez and Taylor] just ran at me and started punching," David said. When David could see his younger brother fighting Campbell, he saw Campbell swinging something at him, then trying to tackle his younger brother.
Soon, Campbell said he had been hurt. Taylor left in his car, and Perez and Campbell left in Perez's Cherokee.
The brothers left, too, returning to their house. The younger brother had received a cut (photos taken the day after show a cut on one of his wrists), and they bandaged it up while trying not to wake their mother.
David said his brother also received a black eye and a long, straight mark, two centimeters thick, across his ribs. This would seem to be consistent with a mark from a golf club, and was not mentioned in testimony from an officer who photographed the defendant's wounds soon after the fight.
In cross-examination, David admitted telling police about the toy gun late in interviews, and initially saying his younger brother never got out of the car during the fight. He insisted at trial that his brother didn't have a knife at the fight.
"He's not allowed to carry a knife," David said.
Assistant Commonwealth's Attorney Camille Turner closed the cross-examination with a series of rapid questions:
Turner: Little brother?
David: Yes.
Turner: Love him?
David: Yes.
Turner: Want to protect him?
David: Yes.
Turner: To this day.

Defendant in Wyatt Campbell Murder Trial Found Not Guilty
After about six hours of deliberations, a jury found the 15-year-old defendant charged with the murder of Rose Hill teen Wyatt Campbell not guilty Friday morning.
Deliberations started Thursday afternoon and continued Friday morning. The jury reached a verdict around 10:20 a.m.
Defendant’s Brother Held for Contempt:
Before the verdict was read, Judge Brett A. Kassabian demanded order in the courtroom, telling both parties that any outbursts or disruptions upon hearing the verdict would be dealt with “severely.”
But upon hearing the not guilty verdict, the defendant’s brother, David, stood up and started clapping.
Once the defendant had been escorted out of the courtroom, Kassabian gave David a chance to explain himself. David said he was happy for his brother, and that his brother hadn’t deserved to be there.
Kassabian was not satisfied, and, placing him in contempt of court, sentenced him to a day in jail. “This is not the Jerry Springer Show,” Kassabian said. “This is a courtroom.”
While the bailiff was cuffing David’s hands, David looked at Campbell’s party and said, “Who’s laughing now, b----?”
Angered, Kassabian called the statement “outrageous” and sentenced him to additional time.
The defendant was sent back to the juvenile detention center to be released immediately.

Thursday’s Closing Arguments:
The trial was put to the jury around 12:40 p.m. Thursday, after the prosecution and defense presented their closing arguments.
Before Kassabian released the case to the jury, Cary Greenberg, the defense’s attorney, motioned again to strike the case.
“There is nothing that suggests malice,” he said, describing the killing as an act of self-defense by somebody who was “extremely petrified.” “There is no indication that this was an intentional killing. This case should not go to the jury.”
Kassabian disagreed, saying that these were all matters for a jury to decide.
During the prosecution’s closing arguments, commonwealth attorney Camille Turner stated that in order for the jury to come back with a verdict of guilty of second-degree murder, they had to establish that the defendant had killed Wyatt Campbell and done so with malice.
“You may infer malice because there was an unlawful killing,” she said, adding that there was deliberate use of a weapon, and that by the end of the fight, Campbell had suffered 12 stab wounds. “This was a brutal, malicious killing, and we would ask that you find the defendant guilty of murder.”
The defense used the closing arguments to reiterate that the defendant had been protecting himself.
“Nature’s oldest law is self-defense,” Greenberg said, reminding the jury that the defendant and his brother had been in a conflict with three people intending to do bodily harm. “These were people looking to fight and looking to hurt people in ways we can’t even imagine.”
Greenburg also brought up Campbell’s reputation, the inconsistencies in Randy Taylor’s testimony, an unprocessed knife found in the back seat of Tony Perez’s car, and unidentified blood on the defendant’s brother’s car.
And when the fight stopped, Greenberg said, the defendant didn’t pursue Campbell or try to do him more harm. “There’s no indication that [the defendant] ever actively wanted to kill anybody,” he said.
“This is a serious case and a terrible tragedy, but a 15-year-old kid is entitled also to go on and live his life.”
Turner used her rebuttal to point out that the defendant’s side of the story came primarily from his own brother, and questioned whether the sheer number of wounds qualified as “more force than was reasonably necessary to repel the attack” from Campbell.
“If a person who you outweigh by 20, 30, 40 pounds is coming at you in a football crouch, is it necessary to stab them 12 times?” she asked the jury, holding up forensic photos of Campbell’s wounds.

After about six hours of deliberations, a jury found the 15-year-old defendant charged with the murder of Rose Hill teen Wyatt Campbell not guilty Friday morning.
The jury was released for deliberations at 12:40 p.m. Thursday but was sent home at 5:30 p.m. with instructions to return at 9 a.m. Friday. They reached a verdict around 10:20 a.m.


Case close.

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> when have I made fun of someone on the internet?
> Show me one post.
>
> NOt interested in stabbing - waaaaaaaaaay more
> fascinated with the whole "pro-streetfighting
> lobby" that has permeated this thread, though -
> like it's a common way of life or something.
>
> and yeah, my kids are gonna do stuff I dont know
> about................ROBBING OTHERS will not be
> one of them. Im sure they will hang out behind
> shopping centers - wont have weapons with them
> when they do, getting into streetfights, k?
> You
> And no, creepy and weird is if I leave my house to
> go fight other children behind a shopping
> center............or focusing on one COMPLETE
> STRANGER on the interweb instead of moving on with
> yr life - that's pretty creepy and weird in and of
> itself.

I do not have time to scroll back thru all these pages to point out how many times you had made rude or sarcastic remarks to people or placed a pic or video of the same nature. You are not so innocent like you would like people to believe. If i remember correctly one person asked you to not start up with your BS last Thursday to leave people alone to vent their anger about the verdict, you couldn't even respect that request.You have over 200 rooms to choose from, go bother one of those. What is it you find so interesting about this one? BTW We do not condone fighting in the alley. Our issue is that a 15 yr old kid stabbed a 18 yr old to death. He did not stop at one, which I might be able to accept that he was scared, But to continue 12 more times!!!! ...And one think about this, Wasn't it Wyatt defending himself. David Smith admitted he told his brother let's go get the BB Gun it looks real and rob them to get your IPOD back. So if someone showed up at my house ( or close to my house ) with a gun wouldn't it be wyatt committing SELF DEFENSE???..But I am sure you will take issue with that like you always do

Our issue is that a 15 yr old kid stabbed a 18 yr old to death. He did not stop at one, which I might be able to accept that he was scared, But to continue 12 more times!!!! ...And one think about this, Wasn't it Wyatt defending himself. David Smith admitted he told his brother let's go get the BB Gun it looks real and rob them to get your IPOD back. So if someone showed up at my house ( or close to my house ) with a gun wouldn't it be wyatt committing SELF DEFENSE???..But I am sure you will take issue with that like you always do

READ the Post Name: Recap, the one directly above yours!!
STOP showing your lack of intelligence and truthfulness! As I stated, you all are making OUR community look even worse! Since the cops are closely watching along with us neighbors, hopefully our community will get cleaned up! If many of you would stay off the drugs, you just might be able to save what is left of the organ called, brain.

Just remember in Fairfax you can stab someone 12 times, claim self defense and move on with your life a free person. God Bless the US ! God Bless Fairfax County!
And people are worried about guns.....