>Are these to be melted as you recommend?

Hillary and her cronies say YES, and she will not shed a tear, as they are thrown into a heap, stocks cracked, bluing gouged.. I cant stand the thought!! A 1941 Winchester 30-30.. A 55 M-17 Winchester...

DAJAX

Lets face it, a Federal Law would result in always being unconstitutional and states are in a corner at this point based on the current political constituents. Maybe we should just put a shelf life on Senators and Congressmen and to get re-elected after that they got to fight their competition in a battle to the death. The old eventual get weak - its a good way for them to get rid of their religious beliefs and start believing in Darwin.

Plinker Wrote:
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> > I also have a 1955 Model 77 Winchester(TUBE
> FED)
> > in .22 cal, and it has a 16 shot capacity.
> >
>
> Don't worry about the .22, earlier genius poster
> said it wasn't very deadly.
>
> Good thing you don't have an old Henry
> (manufactured in the 1860's), my god, they held 16
> or 17 shells, the Libs would have to come
> confiscate it immediately. I wonder why they
> weren't labeled as an assault weapon back in the
> day?


.22 caliber is a favorite of Mob hit men. The round enters behind the ear, and then bounces around the inside of the skull pulverizing the brain.

Cheap rounds, reasonably quiet, no recoil, enters the head, and stays in the head so there is very little mess.

You can purchase a .22 on a AR-15 style platform for less than $500, but I prefer my 12GA semi auto shotgun. It has a 12 round clip, and fires 00 Buck shot like a dream. It is also pre-drilled for a scope if desired.

So was the weapon full auto?

Didnt hear Wrote:
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> So was the weapon full auto?


Semi Auto -

Xmas Gifts for a Real American Wrote:
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> Didnt hear Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So was the weapon full auto?
>
>
> Semi Auto -

What makes a real American?

Xmas Gifts for a Real American Wrote:
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It has a 12 round clip,

I'd like to see that, must be some cool ass Benelli prototype.

gunbroker.com for all of your gift giving needs, and many items ship for free!

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I do thank you for the information. I'm a person who likes to learn and has no problem admitting when I'm wrong or buy in to what I read without doing enough research.

Thanks & have a good one.

Watch list = NO GUNS Wrote:
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> I do thank you for the information. I'm a person
> who likes to learn and has no problem admitting
> when I'm wrong or buy in to what I read without
> doing enough research.
>
> Thanks & have a good one.


Wow, a mature and thoughtful response. I thank you for that and you win the "FFXU most civil post of the day" award.

Not agreeing with much the Muslim's do or believe in, when it comes to their objection to having a bunch of Abominations to mankind over running the place and our government -
The Muslim's, Islam got that one perfectly right.
Perfectly.
Being gay IS an abomination. Their existence is a freak of mankind.
And there is no true Christian that would differ with this fact.
A study taken brought to fruition that if there was a national vote taken of The People of THIS country, 80% of all Americans would outlaw being gay. And/or outlaw all possibility's of them getting any 'rights' in/with anything in this country.
No TRUE patriot of this country would want to push off the higher medical expenses off onto the general public for their, and caused by their, nasty, abdominal sex habits.
Why should any of us, as the majority of the pop's, heterosexuals, have to be burdened by an abomination to mankind, have to pay extra for health care coverage, because two FAGGOTS do not know how to practice safe sex?
The health care industry knows very well the average FAGGOT's health care costs is, on average, for ALL of them, 33%+ higher than your average heterosexual.
Put them in a separate category, if you must, and make them pay as a separate categorical group, their own higher health care cost.
Leave us normal people out of it!
(If you must - )
In the meantime - GO ISLAM!
(with this issue, alone, of course!!!)
KILL ALL THOSE FAGGOTS you like!

Besides - the Muslim's seem to need a better focus on killing a bunch of people anyone - give them a healthy for all of us other's, 'focus'. Let 'em take it out on the FAGGOTS!!!! The ABOMINATONS of mankind!!!!

^^

Was that post in the sprit of Father's Day?

There are no laws that would have stopped this or any other massacre.

The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

>The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

That is The Truth Pure and Simple.. Why do people have any problem with it??

Why are Democrats bending over backwards to disarm the American people.. to leave us in a NO Self Defense Zone..with Criminals and terrorists.. Why do they want these scum to have the upper hand?? Why are they not defending us..Our Rights under the 2nd amendment??

There was this guy..in Germany, before World War 2.. His name was Hitler...The first thing he did was disarm the peo....

DAJAX

The Abomination Prevention Law Wrote:
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> Not agreeing with much the Muslim's do or believe
> in, when it comes to their objection to having a
> bunch of Abominations to mankind over running the
> place and our government -
> The Muslim's, Islam got that one perfectly
> right.
> Perfectly.
> Being gay IS an abomination. Their existence is
> a freak of mankind.
> And there is no true Christian that would
> differ with this fact.
> A study taken brought to fruition that if there
> was a national vote taken of The People of THIS
> country, 80% of all Americans would outlaw being
> gay. And/or outlaw all possibility's of them
> getting any 'rights' in/with anything in this
> country.
> No TRUE patriot of this country would want to
> push off the higher medical expenses off onto the
> general public for their, and caused by their,
> nasty, abdominal sex habits.
> Why should any of us, as the majority of the
> pop's, heterosexuals, have to be burdened by an
> abomination to mankind, have to pay extra for
> health care coverage, because two FAGGOTS do not
> know how to practice safe sex?
> The health care industry knows very well the
> average FAGGOT's health care costs is, on average,
>for ALL of them, 33%+ higher than your average
> heterosexual.
> Put them in a separate category, if you must,
> and make them pay as a separate categorical group,
> their own higher health care cost.
> Leave us normal people out of it!
> (If you must - )
> In the meantime - GO ISLAM!
> (with this issue, alone, of course!!!)
> KILL ALL THOSE FAGGOTS you like!
>
> Besides - the Muslim's seem to need a better
> focus on killing a bunch of people anyone - give
> them a healthy for all of us other's, 'focus'.
> Let 'em take it out on the FAGGOTS!!!! The
> ABOMINATONS of mankind!!!!

Spoken like a 'true Christian' - KILL ALL THOSE FAGGOTS! That's the spirit! 'Us normal people' - lol. You are batshit fucking insane!

Whats the Problem?? Wrote:
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> >The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a
> good guy with a gun.
>
> That is The Truth Pure and Simple.. Why do people
> have any problem with it??
>
> Why are Democrats bending over backwards to disarm
> the American people.. to leave us in a NO Self
> Defense Zone..with Criminals and terrorists.. Why
> do they want these scum to have the upper hand??
> Why are they not defending us..Our Rights under
> the 2nd amendment??
>
> There was this guy..in Germany, before World War
> 2.. His name was Hitler...The first thing he did
> was disarm the peo....
>
> DAJAX

There was this guy..on the forum, who whines about his country.
Yet never served and defended the constitution he thinks is up for grabs.
Go figure.
I might buy your bullshit DAJAX, if you had at least served.
Talk is cheap.

Since all the mass-shootings have been perpetrated by democrats (who are also responsible for the slaughter taking place in large cities), the solution is crystal clear: NO GUN SALES TO DEMOCRATS!

Why can't America get behind this common-sense compromise?

Why do the Democrats want to govern through secret lists and lack of due process? Use of the terrorist watch list to restrict gun sales is just such a mechanism.

I thought this nation learned from the McCarthy era. The only difference between now and then is that now the Dems are in power.

Watch out Dems, once you go down this road, it may turn against you.

e4j6v Wrote:
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> a ban on assault rifles would help. He outgunned
> the cop/cops from the start. The killing was easy
> after that. Hunting rifles and 6 round mags
> should be the limit. melt everything else like
> the Aussies did. It will work.


^best answer.

@best answer & @e4j6v, evidence is otherwise. France has strict gun control laws that include a ban on assault rifles, and Paris still happened. While you may argue the rifles came over the border, I'd counter that we have an open border to our south. To that extent, we are also different from Australia. Banning assault rifles here will not help against an aggressive and determined ISIS.

Think about it Wrote:
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> @best answer & @e4j6v, evidence is otherwise.
> France has strict gun control laws that include a
> ban on assault rifles, and Paris still happened.
> While you may argue the rifles came over the
> border, I'd counter that we have an open border to
> our south. To that extent, we are also different
> from Australia. Banning assault rifles here will
> not help against an aggressive and determined
> ISIS.


No, but at least it's a start. Better than Trump calling them names.
Why does someone want an assault weapon?

Sticks and Stones....... Wrote:
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> Think about it Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > @best answer & @e4j6v, evidence is otherwise.
> > France has strict gun control laws that include
> a
> > ban on assault rifles, and Paris still
> happened.
> > While you may argue the rifles came over the
> > border, I'd counter that we have an open border
> to
> > our south. To that extent, we are also
> different
> > from Australia. Banning assault rifles here
> will
> > not help against an aggressive and determined
> > ISIS.
>
>
> No, but at least it's a start. Better than Trump
> calling them names.
> Why does someone want an assault weapon?


;

@sticks and stones,

First, I don't know what an "assault weapon" is and why it makes a difference. Please explain. While you are thinking about that, also consider:

1) Misuse of prescription drugs kills way more people than guns. If you were serious about cutting down on needless death, you should campaign for the dispensed quantities of prescription drugs to be vastly reduced. Why does anyone need a 90-day supply?

2) Automobiles kill more than guns. The higher the speed, the more likely a death. If you were serious about cutting down on needless death, you would campaign for slower speeds. Why does anyone need a 100-MPH car?

Myth- Speed kills.

Fact - Differential speed kills.

@sticks and stones it's not a start. The last assault weapon ban had no discernible effect on crime at all. The legislation is simply something to make the left feel good, and it distracts from more viable solutions.

A law which mandated that every one over the age of 18 is rquired to purchase a gun and have ammunition for that gun and one that eliminated ALL gun free zones.

That would make our country a more polite place to live .. let alone prevent 50 defenseless people from being shot dead.

No change Wrote:
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> @sticks and stones it's not a start. The last
> assault weapon ban had no discernible effect on
> crime at all. The legislation is simply something
> to make the left feel good, and it distracts from
> more viable solutions.


It isn't about making the left feel good. It is about incremental "regulation" aka infringement. They'll start with the big ugly "assault weapon" that "nobody needs." Once that is accomplished, they'll cry about magazines that carry more than 10 rounds. Then it will be to any firearm with a detachable magazine and finally they will move to ban the sale of all handguns.

This isn't some right wing paranoia, this is a fact. In fact, they used to not even hide from that fact in the 80s. The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence used to be called the National Coalition to Ban Handguns. Many of those same people are the same ones pushing for the "reforms" today. They realized they couldn't get to handguns on the first try so they started an incremental plan to eventually get there starting with "assault weapons."

Josh Sugarmann, the man who invented the made up term "assault weapon," expects ignorance from the those that espouse more gun control. He once said, " The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun—can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons."

He's hoodwinked you all and you're too stupid to know it!

Geez boys, if you want to play with carbines then join the military and defend this nation. You might even get to shoot something other than paper targets. Most of you just post about your second amendment "right" but don't have the balls to actually defend it along with a couple of other "rights".
Stop being pussies, arguing about terminology, semantics. Earn those rights and freedoms.

Sticks and Stones Wrote:
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> Geez boys, if you want to play with carbines then
> join the military and defend this nation. You
> might even get to shoot something other than paper
> targets. Most of you just post about your second
> amendment "right" but don't have the balls to
> actually defend it along with a couple of other
> "rights".
> Stop being pussies, arguing about terminology,
> semantics. Earn those rights and freedoms.

Four years active duty. Eleven years reserve.

Sticks and Stones Wrote:
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> Geez boys, if you want to play with carbines then
> join the military and defend this nation. You
> might even get to shoot something other than paper
> targets. Most of you just post about your second
> amendment "right" but don't have the balls to
> actually defend it along with a couple of other
> "rights".
> Stop being pussies, arguing about terminology,
> semantics. Earn those rights and freedoms.


Desert Storm veteran. And guess what goober, American's don't have to 'earn' our rights. Yeah, I fought and killed for this country, but that doesn't make me any more deserving of our basic freedoms and liberties than the stay-at-home mom that lives next door to me.

pussies indeed.

Omar Mateen tried to join the police force a second time last year

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3641477/You-won-t-let-m-Muslim-surly-Orlando-shooter-booted-police-academy-suspected-trying-infiltrate-Fort-Pierce-police-force-YEAR.html

Now this is some funny shit.

Has anyone pinned down WHAT this asshole actually was?

Gay, Terrorist, Nuts, Abuser? Exactly What?

Who was he? Wrote:
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> Has anyone pinned down WHAT this asshole actually
> was?
>
> Gay, Terrorist, Nuts, Abuser? Exactly What?


Does it matter? He had the right to own firearms and used them to commit mass murder.

Second Amendment Wrote:
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> Who was he? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Has anyone pinned down WHAT this asshole
> actually
> > was?
> >
> > Gay, Terrorist, Nuts, Abuser? Exactly What?
>
>
> Does it matter? He had the right to own firearms
> and used them to commit mass murder.

I just want to be sure someone sets up the correct task force, and pisses the billions of dollars down the right hole.

>Desert Storm veteran. And guess what goober, American's don't have to 'earn' our rights. Yeah, I fought and killed for this country, but that doesn't make me any more deserving of our basic freedoms and liberties than the stay-at-home mom that lives next door to me.

pussies indeed.

Well said Sir!

Why is it that I have the feeling that those who make such statements about Americans who are Law Abiding Loyal Citizens are Punks stealing Valor from those who served like you.. When they Did NOT! And Are trying to use their lousy statements to make People Think their Vets and make supporters of the 2nd Amendment look bad to futher their gun control agenda?

DAJAX.. 1H - "Holding for future processing" during the Vietnam War.. Draft ended 3 months after I registered in the Summer of 1972. No 2S. No other deferments . Class A physical. War was ending and I was good to go. and I would have held up my hand and swore the oath as millions of other Draftees did before me, If I was called to serve.

Well Said US Combat Veteran Wrote:
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> >Desert Storm veteran. And guess what goober,
> American's don't have to 'earn' our rights. Yeah,
> I fought and killed for this country, but that
> doesn't make me any more deserving of our basic
> freedoms and liberties than the stay-at-home mom
> that lives next door to me.
>
> pussies indeed.
>
> Well said Sir!
>
> Why is it that I have the feeling that those who
> make such statements about Americans who are Law
> Abiding Loyal Citizens are Punks stealing Valor
> from those who served like you.. When they Did
> NOT! And Are trying to use their lousy statements
> to make People Think their Vets and make
> supporters of the 2nd Amendment look bad to futher
> their gun control agenda?
>
> DAJAX.. 1H - "Holding for future processing"
> during the Vietnam War.. Draft ended 3 months
> after I registered in the Summer of 1972. No 2S.
> No other deferments . Class A physical. War was
> ending and I was good to go. and I would have held
> up my hand and swore the oath as millions of other
> Draftees did before me, If I was called to serve.

You must feel guilty having to explain yourself on the forum. Gonna leave you alone now 'cause I'd hate to have more good folk shot up if & when you go postal.
You take care now, DJAX.

You the one that's guilty of Stealing Valor as You Never Served..and pose as a Veteran . Jee..neither Did Bill Clinton.. Obama, who both want to destroy law abiding peoples right to bear arms. And GW Bush..Yes he served as a pilot with the Texas Air Guard..

Change and ratify the Constitution if you don't like it.

DAJAX

Police warn visitors to quit taking selfies with alligators

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/04/27/georgia-police-dont-take-selfies-with-6-foot-gator-flat-creek-floyd.html

Any gathering of any hated population requires an armed guard?

So, yes very sad... Wanna hear something funny? HOMOCAUST... Is that being mean? I'm sorry it happened, really... still gotta admit it kinda cracked me up!

e4j6v Wrote:
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> a ban on assault rifles would help. He outgunned
> the cop/cops from the start. The killing was easy
> after that. Hunting rifles and 6 round mags
> should be the limit. melt everything else like
> the Aussies did. It will work.

Actually the cops were not outgunned as you say. Since the shoot out of the bank robbers in LA back in the 90's, most officers now have some type of rifle in their car or as they have for years a shot gun.

The problem was, he was already in the club and had hostages. Maybe you should re-think your comment, because it is idiotic.

Says a black jack Ass on the dope tube.. A Dummy Democrat.. Its ISIS ..Its Radical Islam Your Asshole..Get off Your Gun Grab..

Gez. So if the guy did not even have a gun.....he hated gays, pledged allegiance to ISIS.. I Won't even go there.. What he COULD Have done..without A GUN.

And NO its not the Gun.. In Black on Black Crime..85% of all firearm killings..50 DEAD A DAY! ITS DRUGS.. It the LOSS of the FAMILY UNIT. Its Not having a father for so many young black children to young men to guide them. and keep them straight!

DAJAX

you have to know the exact real and unmitigated cause first ...

?) moral shock that Disney had a gay day when he realized they did ?

?) illegal teaching of ISIS to start your own skirmishes though you've
sworn not to by oath to your neighbors already ?

?) wife told him it was his duty and had divorced him ?

?) ?

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gun control: bullshit. he was armed by democrats DHS and had a gun anyway before he bought a rifle. all DHS "militia of local gov buildings" bring them home. i sat on one once and wasnt too happy it was loaded and given to someone who'd just leave it lying around under a jacket.

Jayman Wrote:
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> In Australia, shootings are down 72% since the ban
> went into effect. Applying the same time frame,
> shootings are down 61% in the US. So an 11%
> difference, but if you think about it, Australia
> has 25 millions people, we have 300+ million.

Regardless of your stance on this whole issue, you're an idiot: percentages don't care how many people there are in each country.

A Muslim walks into a gay bar. The bartender asks what will it be? He says a water for me & shots for everybody else

Srsly? Wrote:
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> Jayman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > In Australia, shootings are down 72% since the
> ban
> > went into effect. Applying the same time
> frame,
> > shootings are down 61% in the US. So an 11%
> > difference, but if you think about it,
> Australia
> > has 25 millions people, we have 300+ million.
>
> Regardless of your stance on this whole issue,
> you're an idiot: percentages don't care how many
> people there are in each country.


Hahhaha ok. Actually they do not mean anything to liberals because that would mean we are right.

In Australia crime went up after the gun ban. Does anyone want crime to go up?

Also, Australia does not have open borders that are avenues for illegal importation of guns. Following Australia's lead will not have the same effect on illegal weapons.

Jayman Wrote:
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> Srsly? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Jayman Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > In Australia, shootings are down 72% since
> the
> > ban
> > > went into effect. Applying the same time
> > frame,
> > > shootings are down 61% in the US. So an 11%
> > > difference, but if you think about it,
> > Australia
> > > has 25 millions people, we have 300+ million.
> >
> > Regardless of your stance on this whole issue,
> > you're an idiot: percentages don't care how
> many
> > people there are in each country.
>
>
> Hahhaha ok. Actually they do not mean anything to
> liberals because that would mean we are right.

Lolwut?