There are very few great athletes who are not temperamental pricks. If you want your kids to be in groups where everyone gets along and plays nice, I suggest you sign them up for Gymboree.

srsly, all you SOCO parents who are pissed, do sumthin about it! bitchin anonymously on some board is pathetic. get organized, ask for a meeting. state your grievances, make a case. stop being cry baby pussies. and since you know so much more than the coaches, i'm sure there will be sweeping change. yipee!

Emeritus Q. Beaker Wrote:
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> srsly, all you SOCO parents who are pissed, do
> sumthin about it! bitchin anonymously on some
> board is pathetic. get organized, ask for a
> meeting. state your grievances, make a case. stop
> being cry baby pussies. and since you know so much
> more than the coaches, i'm sure there will be
> sweeping change. yipee!


LOL....Almost EVERY thread on here consists of anonymous bitching-- unless of course, its about debating the mindless ( too numerous to mention, but righty tighty comes immediately to mind) or politico wanna-bes posting YouTube videos and insulting each other's GFs.

I missed the SOCO-Annandale game last night. Any new tantrums to report?

"very few great athletes who are not temperamental pricks"....hahahha, ridiculous, but nice attempt to bait the 'tards on here!

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Wow - This thread has really taken a downwards turn. What started out as a justifiable criticism of a coach for not disciplining a player, has turned into ridiculous banter about:

1) The coach plays favorites (wahh-wahh grow up - HS play to win)
2) The coach uses bad language (Go watch a football or lacrosse practice)
3) The coach makes money off camps (the SoCo coach does this LESS than any of the other coaches, not that I begrudge any of them the extra income - he doesn't even field travel teams or run hitting camps - his kids all go to the Ritchie camp)
4) The coach made us pay to go to Orlando (Get over it - stay home next year)
5) The fund-raising money needs to be accounted for (Contact the boosters club)

Seriously, some of you folks need to get a life. Luther does need to tighten up his discipline of his stars on that team, but that's it. He's a good coach and a good person. And the poster that took a shot at Lyons and Tiamson needs counseling. They are the best coaching tandem in NoVa at any level. I defy the poster, (whom I suspect is the same person that ran a South County for-profit baseball academy in the past, and has spent the last few years throwing tantrums about HS coaches cutting into his profits) to demonstrate more dedication to the kids than those three men.

Another heavyweight post from pgens. I know coaching can be a thankless job and there is scant chance you will get through a season without some nasty criticism. That said, I have also witnessed that expecting and displaying mutual respect by the coaches and players has benefits other than just teaching sportsmanship. (I'm not talking about competition.) The teams that function this way win their fair share of games. I don't know a thing about this Luther guy, but I envision a coach who will also viciously berate his own players in front of his teammates and fans. Could be wrong, but he fits the profile.




pgens Wrote:
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> Yes, I'm sure oaktonmom and Lee Dad would make
> great coaches who could school EVERYONE on team
> leadership. Let us know what teams you plan to
> coach and we'll show up at every game to see how
> perfectly you do. After all, it's an easy job...
> how hard could it be?

oaktonmom Wrote:
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> Another heavyweight post from pgens. I know
> coaching can be a thankless job and there is scant
> chance you will get through a season without some
> nasty criticism. That said, I have also witnessed
> that expecting and displaying mutual respect by
> the coaches and players has benefits other than
> just teaching sportsmanship. (I'm not talking
> about competition.) The teams that function this
> way win their fair share of games. I don't know a
> thing about this Luther guy, but I envision a
> coach who will also viciously berate his own
> players in front of his teammates and fans. Could
> be wrong, but he fits the profile.


Hey, oaktonmom, good to see you on the board again! I haven't really seen Luther berate his own players. He's more of a "whip them into a frenzy to go to war" coach, and spends his time stalking outside the dugout, trying to intimidate the other team and the umpires, verbally as well as with his glowering prescence. Its kind of comical, in a sad "adult/juvenile" sort of way....LOL

Im sure he's a great guy to have a beer with, though.

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fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> oaktonmom Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Another heavyweight post from pgens. I know
> > coaching can be a thankless job and there is
> scant
> > chance you will get through a season without
> some
> > nasty criticism. That said, I have also
> witnessed
> > that expecting and displaying mutual respect by
> > the coaches and players has benefits other than
> > just teaching sportsmanship. (I'm not talking
> > about competition.) The teams that function
> this
> > way win their fair share of games. I don't know
> a
> > thing about this Luther guy, but I envision a
> > coach who will also viciously berate his own
> > players in front of his teammates and fans.
> Could
> > be wrong, but he fits the profile.
>
>
> Hey, oaktonmom, good to see you on the board
> again! I haven't really seen Luther berate his
> own players. He's more of a "whip them into a
> frenzy to go to war" coach, and spends his time
> stalking outside the dugout, trying to intimidate
> the other team and the umpires, verbally as well
> as with his glowering prescence. Its kind of
> comical, in a sad "adult/juvenile" sort of
> way....LOL
>
> Im sure he's a great guy to have a beer with,
> though.

What training has this coach received? Does he know what his role should be we these young men?

Is he a teacher? Something wrong here.

games got cancelled

He's handsome too! Wonder if he's happy???

To fairfaxdude,

Have you witnessed this coach at games? Your words:

He's more of a "whip them into a frenzy to go to war" coach, and spends his time stalking outside the dugout, trying to intimidate the other team and the umpires, verbally as well as with his glowering prescence. Its kind of comical, in a sad "adult/juvenile" sort of way....LOL

If the above is true, it is very sad and this coach should not be the coach of any high school team.

"He's handsome too! Wonder if he's happy???"

Who are your referring too?

Concerned parent Wrote:
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> To fairfaxdude,
>
> Have you witnessed this coach at games? Your
> words:

(y'all can scroll)

> If the above is true, it is very sad and this
> coach should not be the coach of any high school
> team.


Why yes, yes I have witnessed his antics. On 3 different occasions, in 3 different games as well. Not this year though. Twice last year, and once the year before that.

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fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> Concerned parent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > To fairfaxdude,
> >
> > Have you witnessed this coach at games? Your
> > words:
>
> (y'all can scroll)
>
> > If the above is true, it is very sad and this
> > coach should not be the coach of any high
> school
> > team.
>
>
> Why yes, yes I have witnessed his antics. On 3
> different occasions, in 3 different games as well.
> Not this year though. Twice last year, and once
> the year before that.

I was at the Madison/SOCO game when pitchers were throwing at hitters, when players on each team were taunting one another and the umpire had to restrict the SOCO coach to his dugout. The game was like a war because of the actions of this coach.

He has some real personal problems.

Well, since I witnessed the same game, a few minor points of disagreement:

1) the SOCO pitcher (Beal) threw at a hitter, the inning after the Madison pitcher bounced an errant curveball into his leg (hardly intentional).

2) The taunts initiated from the SOCO pitcher on the mound--spitting in the direction of batters he struck out,laughing at them as they walked back to the dugout. Of course the Madison bench picked up on that--and he got an earful.

3) Your correct, Luther DID get restricted--AND continued to berate the plate umpire with more colorful language than has been described in this thread so far--directly in FRONT of his fans and the very large Madison crowd. It was a Regional playoff game, after all...many MANY witnesses.

4) Personal or not, problems, yes.

Wonder if the SOCO parents are done bitching anonymously about fundraising yet? Step up, parents!

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fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> Well, since I witnessed the same game, a few minor
> points of disagreement:
>
> 1) the SOCO pitcher (Beal) threw at a hitter, the
> inning after the Madison pitcher bounced an errant
> curveball into his leg (hardly intentional).
>
> 2) The taunts initiated from the SOCO pitcher on
> the mound--spitting in the direction of batters he
> struck out,laughing at them as they walked back to
> the dugout. Of course the Madison bench picked up
> on that--and he got an earful.
>
> 3) Your correct, Luther DID get restricted--AND
> continued to berate the plate umpire with more
> colorful language than has been described in this
> thread so far--directly in FRONT of his fans and
> the very large Madison crowd. It was a Regional
> playoff game, after all...many MANY witnesses.
>
> 4) Personal or not, problems, yes.
>
> Wonder if the SOCO parents are done bitching
> anonymously about fundraising yet? Step up,
> parents!

Thanks for your facts.

Seems to me if the pitcher was throwing at batters and the coach wasn't doing anything about it, the umpire should have thrown the pitcher out of the game. That's what they do in the pros.

The umpire stepped out in front of the plate and quasi-warned the SOCO pitcher, but he'd been a total wimp the whole game...he took a LOT of verbal abuse from Luther for 2 hours, and didnt toss him either.."restricting him to the dugout", where he could keep bitching and cursing, was the farthest that ump would go.

A lot of the fans were on the ump to toss em both--which would have been dramatic but correct(since the first pitch he threw was 12 inches over the batters head, the next one plunked him) but he didn't have the balls. Game got out of control and went downhill fast.

It was bad enough that the Post ran a big story on the game the next day, using all the appropriate code words to describe the SOCO behavior without naming kid's names. Preston Williams, I think...the Post HS Sports reporter.

It happens. Its too bad when it does--for both teams and the sport.

BTW, in the pros AND High School, tossing a pitcher is all judgement on the umpire's part. Only if he "judged" it intentional do they toss em--usually a fastball at the head is fairly apparent.

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fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> The umpire stepped out in front of the plate and
> quasi-warned the SOCO pitcher, but he'd been a
> total wimp the whole game...he took a LOT of
> verbal abuse from Luther for 2 hours, and didnt
> toss him either.."restricting him to the dugout",
> where he could keep bitching and cursing, was the
> farthest that ump would go.
>
> A lot of the fans were on the ump to toss em
> both--which would have been dramatic but
> correct(since the first pitch he threw was 12
> inches over the batters head, the next one plunked
> him) but he didn't have the balls. Game got out
> of control and went downhill fast.
>
> It was bad enough that the Post ran a big story on
> the game the next day, using all the appropriate
> code words to describe the SOCO behavior without
> naming kid's names. Preston Williams, I
> think...the Post HS Sports reporter.
>
> It happens. Its too bad when it does--for both
> teams and the sport.
>
> BTW, in the pros AND High School, tossing a
> pitcher is all judgement on the umpire's part.
> Only if he "judged" it intentional do they toss
> em--usually a fastball at the head is fairly
> apparent.

Is Luther still the coach at SOCO after all of the above?

At yesterdays game against Lake Braddock the SOCO varsity coach confronted the umpire after the game in the parking lot.

Is he out of control or is there something wrong with him?

I doubt that is something that the VHSL can ignore. I wonder if it was reported.

This is a blatant lie. I was behind the South County coach as they walked to the bus and there was no confrontation at all. Kind of makes you wonder how many other lies have been told in this post.

I do not know where you were, but I also heard it...I was not surprised, but was disappointed...and I held back a little as I was concerned it might escalate.

me too Wrote:
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> I do not know where you were, but I also heard
> it...I was not surprised, but was
> disappointed...and I held back a little as I was
> concerned it might escalate.

I and others were there and heard Luther confront the umpire. No coach should take his anger to the parking lot. He could have started a fight/riot.

His actions over the last few years to not bold well for SOCO sports. In fact, it does not do bold well for HS sports.

He needs to be reported to Ms. Lipp and the AD for FCPS.

Disgraceful HS Baseball Game
Posted by: Fan
Date: May 25, 2008


The other night South County HS beat Madison HS 12 to 8 in a game that was a total disgrace to High School sports. This game was out of control from the first inning with players from both teams trash talking one another, pitchers throwing at each other and the umpires did almost nothing to stop this unacceptable behavior.

But the most intolerable behavior was displayed my the two managers who argued almost every call by coming out of the dugouts and confronting the umpires. It got so bad that the umpires told the South County manager that he could not come out of the dugout anymore.

This type of game has no place in HS sports and the two managers should not manage again for allowing this to occur.

have heard some not so flattering things about this Luther character-steering players to certain facilities for out-of-season activities, involvement in feeder teams, etc.

Maybe a nice guy but I hear he bends the rules a lot.

"True", you're missing the point. Out of season clinics and feeder teams are the NORM for any serious HS athlete these days--you can bemoan the "good old days" all ya want, but virtually every sport is a year round one now. And every decent HS coach is usually involved in off-season training and clinics--the demand and $$$ is there for lots of em. I dont begrudge a coach who gets a measly 2-3K for a HS season (which is usually split with asst coaches) a chance to use their talent to teach and train in the off-season.

I think the point of this thread has been Luther's behavior and demeanor on the field, and the lack of discipline his "stars" exhibit there as well.

And now, I'd like to hear from more eyewitnesses about the umpire-berating after the LB game...please post, those who were there!

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WELL! i wasn't there, but i also heard there was an orphanage on fire and luther ran in and saved dozens of children! thats just what i heard though. so, you know....

Mr. Beaker

You suck. I was at the fire...Luther did not save anyone....he started the fire and the roasted marshmellows, laughing while the poor orphans screamed for help.

It is the wild, unsubstantiated rumor mongering like yours that degrades this fine forum. All know that Luther will be videotaped at the next few games....if he even picks his nose (again) it will be all over Youtube, and he'll be fired.

AB


Emeritus Q. Beaker Wrote:
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> WELL! i wasn't there, but i also heard there was
> an orphanage on fire and luther ran in and saved
> dozens of children! thats just what i heard
> though. so, you know....

Ten dollars he eats it after he picks it.

I say he gives it to his star pitcher to doctor his pitch.

p.s. I hear his foul-mouthed pitcher is prone to holding the coach's bat in the locker room, while the coach is juggling his balls.

When did Dale Rumberger leave South County?

Nothing being done by Ms. Lipp Wrote:
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> Once again FCPS does nothing. No interviews, no
> investigation, no looking into the complaint.
> Ms.Lipp is like the three monkeys, see nothing,
> speak nothing, hear nothing.
>
> Read her bull shit response to a parent and see
> makes $175,000 dollars.
>
> See needs to go out the door with Luther.
>
>
> From: JHLipp@fcps.edu
> CC: MAPflugrath@fcps.edu, MWLuther@fcps.edu
> Sent: 4/20/2009
> Subj: RE: Varsity baseball Games this weekend
>
>
> Dear SCSS Parent,
>
> Thank you for your email and comments. I must say
> that in our daily communication here at SCSS, we
> have the expectation for and encourage all parties
> to identify themselves. This allows for direct
> conversations that promote communication and
> facilitate positive results.
>
> That being said, I have shared and discussed your
> concerns with Mr. Pflugrath, our Director of
> Student Activities, and Mr. Luther, our Varsity
> Baseball Coach. They would be more than happy to
> speak with you regarding this situation. As you
> know, there are many aspects involved in leading
> and coaching our teams. There are also many
> people who are part of this process and there are
> numerous strategies implemented in working with
> our student athletes. I have found over the years,
> that it is important to speak with those most
> closely involved in a particular situation and
> thus be sure that one has all of the information
> before making judgements.
>
> Please consider contacting our staff via telephone
> to further discuss this situation.
>
> Jane Lipp
>
> Jane Lipp
> Principal
> South County Secondary School
> 703-446-1605

I guess if Principal Lipp received an anonymous tip that one of her employees was dealing cocaine or having sex with one of their students, she would wait for the complaintant to formally identify themselves....

What a great way to run a school-protect the employees and/or coaches at all costs and let the chips fall where they may.

Why is this school district so dysfunctional. Go ask around at Montgomery County Schools if any of this crap goes on-NO WAY.

Rule 1: Coaches have to be employees-unless they can't fill the position

Rule 2: Absolutely NO private business crap going on from coaches-extorting money from players and parents for camps, etc. to pad their pockets.

Rule 3: No pupil placement for sports-Is not permitted. They actually enforse the rules.

Rule 4: Out of season activities-basketball (open gym), summer leagues with existing teams, etc, does not happen.

They have strict rules, and unlike the nitwits at FCPS, actually ENFORCE them!!

I guess if Principal Lipp received an anonymous tip that one of her employees was dealing cocaine or having sex with one of their students, she would wait for the complaintant to formally identify themselves....

What a great way to run a school-protect the employees and/or coaches at all costs and let the chips fall where they may.

Based on her rules and FCPS, students get hurt.

We need zero tolerance against employees and coaches.

Hey Principal Lipp Wrote:
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> I guess if Principal Lipp received an anonymous
> tip that one of her employees was dealing cocaine
> or having sex with one of their students, she
> would wait for the complaintant to formally
> identify themselves....
>
> What a great way to run a school-protect the
> employees and/or coaches at all costs and let the
> chips fall where they may.
>
> Why is this school district so dysfunctional. Go
> ask around at Montgomery County Schools if any of
> this crap goes on-NO WAY.
>
> Rule 1: Coaches have to be employees-unless they
> can't fill the position
>
> Rule 2: Absolutely NO private business crap going
> on from coaches-extorting money from players and
> parents for camps, etc. to pad their pockets.
>
> Rule 3: No pupil placement for sports-Is not
> permitted. They actually enforse the rules.
>
> Rule 4: Out of season activities-basketball (open
> gym), summer leagues with existing teams, etc,
> does not happen.
>
> They have strict rules, and unlike the nitwits at
> FCPS, actually ENFORCE them!!


Really not the most apt analogy....try again. Attempting to fit this issue under some dumbass "zero tolerance" category is just ridiculous.


1) The same "rule", with the caveat, is employed by FCPS. Its not much of a "rule" in either MCPS or FCPS, since its reliant on current vacancies to make it work. MANY instances of FCPS coaches teaching at one school, coaching at another.

2) Bullshit...there are certainly MCPS coaches self-employed doing training and clinics in the off-season.

3)High profile "transfers" happen all the time in MOCO...read the Post. I don't care what you call it: pupil placement, transfers, fake parental moves, etc...its the same thing.

4)The "Maryland HS Athletic" (whatever its called) just passed a new rule last year allowing HS coaches to coach their HS team during the off-season--something the VHSL does NOT permit. So bullshit again.

Bottom line, you FAIL. Try again.

Now carry on.

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fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> Hey Principal Lipp Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I guess if Principal Lipp received an anonymous
> > tip that one of her employees was dealing
> cocaine
> > or having sex with one of their students, she
> > would wait for the complaintant to formally
> > identify themselves....
> >
> > What a great way to run a school-protect the
> > employees and/or coaches at all costs and let
> the
> > chips fall where they may.
> >
> > Why is this school district so dysfunctional.
> Go
> > ask around at Montgomery County Schools if any
> of
> > this crap goes on-NO WAY.
> >
> > Rule 1: Coaches have to be employees-unless
> they
> > can't fill the position
> >
> > Rule 2: Absolutely NO private business crap
> going
> > on from coaches-extorting money from players
> and
> > parents for camps, etc. to pad their pockets.
> >
> > Rule 3: No pupil placement for sports-Is not
> > permitted. They actually enforse the rules.
> >
> > Rule 4: Out of season activities-basketball
> (open
> > gym), summer leagues with existing teams, etc,
> > does not happen.
> >
> > They have strict rules, and unlike the nitwits
> at
> > FCPS, actually ENFORCE them!!
>
>
> Really not the most apt analogy....try again.
> Attempting to fit this issue under some dumbass
> "zero tolerance" category is just ridiculous.
>
>
> 1) The same "rule", with the caveat, is employed
> by FCPS. Its not much of a "rule" in either MCPS
> or FCPS, since its reliant on current vacancies to
> make it work. MANY instances of FCPS coaches
> teaching at one school, coaching at another.
>
> 2) Bullshit...there are certainly MCPS coaches
> self-employed doing training and clinics in the
> off-season.
>
> 3)High profile "transfers" happen all the time in
> MOCO...read the Post. I don't care what you call
> it: pupil placement, transfers, fake parental
> moves, etc...its the same thing.
>
> 4)The "Maryland HS Athletic" (whatever its called)
> just passed a new rule last year allowing HS
> coaches to coach their HS team during the
> off-season--something the VHSL does NOT permit. So
> bullshit again.
>
> Bottom line, you FAIL. Try again.
>
> Now carry on.

Before you mouth off you need to know the VHSL rules regarding coaching their players and the FCPS rules for coaching their players. Not the same.

PLEASE CARRY ON WHEN YOU KNOW THE RULES.

As a college baseball player...this shit happens every day...some of you parents need to cut the umbilical chord... let your kids do their thing, play the game...parents should stay out of the dugout...its the complaining parents of these sheltered kids that sensationalize this crap and try to stir shit up in a feeble attempt to get thier kid playing time or justify them just being shitty athletes...

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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>
>
> 2) Bullshit...there are certainly MCPS coaches
> self-employed doing training and clinics in the
> off-season.

Name ONE that gets paid by their own players. I can name 10-15 FCPS coaches who get paid by their players at their private clinics.
>
> 3)High profile "transfers" happen all the time in
> MOCO...read the Post. I don't care what you call
> it: pupil placement, transfers, fake parental
> moves, etc...its the same thing.

Name ONE. Madison HS's basesball team has EIGHT players who are not Madison based students. 40% of their team should be attending other schools.
>
> 4)The "Maryland HS Athletic" (whatever its called)
> just passed a new rule last year allowing HS
> coaches to coach their HS team during the
> off-season--something the VHSL does NOT permit. So
> bullshit again.

80% of their starting line-up is the MD rule. Baseball would be 7 players-far less than what FCPS is proposing.
>
> Bottom line, you FAIL. Try again.

You are a know nothing idiot.
>
> Now carry on.

Fairfaxdude is from cheatcentral Wrote:
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> fairfaxdude Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> >
> > 2) Bullshit...there are certainly MCPS coaches
> > self-employed doing training and clinics in the
> > off-season.
>
> Name ONE that gets paid by their own players. I
> can name 10-15 FCPS coaches who get paid by their
> players at their private clinics.
> >
> > 3)High profile "transfers" happen all the time
> in
> > MOCO...read the Post. I don't care what you
> call
> > it: pupil placement, transfers, fake parental
> > moves, etc...its the same thing.
>
> Name ONE. Madison HS's basesball team has EIGHT
> players who are not Madison based students. 40%
> of their team should be attending other schools.
> >
> > 4)The "Maryland HS Athletic" (whatever its
> called)
> > just passed a new rule last year allowing HS
> > coaches to coach their HS team during the
> > off-season--something the VHSL does NOT permit.
> So
> > bullshit again.
>
> 80% of their starting line-up is the MD rule.
> Baseball would be 7 players-far less than what
> FCPS is proposing.
> >
> > Bottom line, you FAIL. Try again.
>
> You are a know nothing idiot.
> >
> > Now carry on.

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No, he is a Madison/Puge ass kisser. Madison cheats the most of any HS and everybody knows it.

Madison rules = pay to play and cheat to win. What a bull shit program.

NOW CARRY ON CHEAT.

Bull Shit Program at Madison HS Wrote:

> No, he is a Madison/Puge ass kisser. Madison
> cheats the most of any HS and everybody knows it.
>
>
> Madison rules = pay to play and cheat to win. What
> a bull shit program.
>
> NOW CARRY ON CHEAT.

about time you showed up, mr luther! folks here been getting on your case a bit--bet it pissed you right the hell off.

GODDAMMIT GODDDAMIT GODDDAMIT

LOL...I see we have a hider poster, throwing up MARYLAND comparisons...how droll..

Meh.

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                How shal the world be served?
Let Luther have his Seth to hym reserved!
Attachments:

Who is Digby? Is he the player who was out of control because he K three times?

Does Luther know how to teach hitting? He knows nothing about discipline.

Stallions are running wild again.

>Who is Digby?<

Upset Parents wrote (4/20): "As a parent of a player, how is it that, the captain of the Varsity baseball team(Seth Jordan)can scream at the top of his lungs (God damn-it 3 times) throw his helmet in the dugout, be warned by the umpire (Directly to Coach Townsend) and still play in the game and the following game against Bishop Ireton? I'm sure I am not the only parent that has brought this to the schools attention.

I am appalled at what coaches do (or in most cases don't do) to protect there better players. This is totally unacceptable behavior from the player and even worse unacceptable leadership from Coach Luther and Townsend who did nothing and does nothing to Seth Jordan.

What is the schools responsibility?

A very angry parent who at the moment won't reveal a name due to retaliation against our son. What's right is right. Seth Jordan is a poor excuse for a captain (allow Digby the role)"

To wit: Digby is willin'.

Being coached by Coach Luther, none of you guys realize how much work he puts in and what he expects from his players. Some of the players can get out of control, but that does not mean he urges them on to play with that personanilty. Coach Luther is one of the best coaches that I have had and does not deserve all this bad publicity.

I played for Luther at Hayfield years ago. He was nothing then and he is still nothing.

He played favorites.

He is definitely something if he can bring our team to states. He puts the best 9 players out on the field that he believes will give the best chance to win. Not playing favorites at all.

Why are my taxes going to sh-- like this? I should just be paying for the 3Rs. If people want to do extra curricular stuff you should pay for it out of your pocket. The youth in this area are not yelled at enough...

Why does Luther tell his players what clinic they must attend?

Does Luther get a kick back every time he sends his players to a clinic?

Does he run a pay for play program?

How many state, region or district titles has he won over the years?

As a former player for Coach Luther I can vouch for him as being far from what everyone on here is criticizing him of. He runs a smooth and successful program. Over 3 completed seasons since South County opened, Coach Luther has led his team to 2 district championships, 3 regional playoffs (including a championship game), and a state semi-final. Doesn't seem to me like he's playing favorites, he does what he needs to win and he has succeeded. Aside from the 2 players mentioned earlier, no SC baseball players have had discipline problems. Coach Luther has nothing to do with their attitudes. He is a baseball coach, not a baby sitter. Anyone that has a problem with the incident that occurred with Seth needs to take it up with him. He is the only one that can make a change.

As you can see from two former players, Coach Luther does a great job with the players and deserves more credit than what he is getting. A couple of players do have some issues with their attitude but that does not reflect on how the coaches run the program.

baseball Wrote:
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> As you can see from two former players, Coach
> Luther does a great job with the players and
> deserves more credit than what he is getting. A
> couple of players do have some issues with their
> attitude but that does not reflect on how the
> coaches run the program.

You did not mention all of the out of season practices he held over the winter on Fridays in the SOCO gym. Players who were going to tryout attended and all returning players attended also.Then he cuts players from these workouts before tryouts. Great guy.

What a great coach he is. He cheats to win by breaking VHSL and FCPS rules.

Coach Luther did not run any off season practices. Some of the players decided they wanted some extra work so they got together and hit in the batting cage. Coach Luther was never present at any of these, nor did he advise it. There was never a day when the entire group of returning players all joined together. Clearly you do not have your facts straight and are most likely associated with someone who did not make the team, making you bitter towards him. That is not fair at all.

Player, what is your opinion of Digby?

Don't you think he would make a better captain than that intemperate upstart, Seth Jordan?

Player Wrote:
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> Coach Luther did not run any off season practices.
> Some of the players decided they wanted some extra
> work so they got together and hit in the batting
> cage. Coach Luther was never present at any of
> these, nor did he advise it. There was never a day
> when the entire group of returning players all
> joined together. Clearly you do not have your
> facts straight and are most likely associated with
> someone who did not make the team, making you
> bitter towards him. That is not fair at all.

How did the players get to use the gym? Did they get a permit? Did they pay for the use of the gym? Who supervised these practice sessions? What adults were there?

Once again lots of questions and no answers from the SOCO cheaters.

a permit? pay to use the school gym? you are retarded.

you know nothing about hs sports and your kid is barely good enough to make the babe ruth team. its tough to come to terms with your kid who sucks, but its easier if you and he just move on and join the drama club.

I think someone has it out for Coach Luther. You are going to find mistakes and you are also going to find alot of positive things he has done. I think it's the players that win the game and we have a good team this year. The coaches have done a good job in allowing all players to particpate in the game when he can. It is unfortunate that others are not recognized and should be and have more playing time but if a player says anything he should be prepared to turn in his jersey because he'll never play. I don't think it's right that Townsends kid gets to start EVERY game when you have others that are just as skilled. Put a Senior in, it's his last year or few weeks left! I can see where there ARE favorites and it IS unfair. Too late now. Next year will be worse! I don't like HS sports and can't wait for college. It is so bad, unfair, and not fun. Coach Luther is cool, but doesn't see what he has done. Townsend is very self absorbed, just looking out for Joey, Carver is the BEST, never judges and keeps quiet and so does Nevins.

Player Wrote:
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> > Coach Luther did not run any off season practices. Some of the players decided they wanted some extra work so they got together and hit in the batting cage. Coach Luther was never present at any of these, nor did he advise it. There was never a day when the entire group of returning players all joined together. . . .< <

FCPS rules prohibit players from using building unsupervised. So an adult had to be present.

During the winter, winter sports teams would have first call on gym space.

How did the players get to use school facilities without adult supervision when the winter sports teams should have had first call on using the space?

Thomas More Wrote:
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> Player Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > Coach Luther did not run any off season
> practices. Some of the players decided they wanted
> some extra work so they got together and hit in
> the batting cage. Coach Luther was never present
> at any of these, nor did he advise it. There was
> never a day when the entire group of returning
> players all joined together. . . .< <
>
> FCPS rules prohibit players from using building
> unsupervised. So an adult had to be present.
>
> During the winter, winter sports teams would have
> first call on gym space.
>
> How did the players get to use school facilities
> without adult supervision when the winter sports
> teams should have had first call on using the
> space?

Sounds like Luther used his position as a teacher and the varsity baseball coach so that his players could practice in the gym out of season. Since he knows how to break rules, he should not be a HS coach.

SoCo player Wrote:
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> I think someone has it out for Coach Luther. You
> are going to find mistakes and you are also going
> to find alot of positive things he has done. I
> think it's the players that win the game and we
> have a good team this year. The coaches have done
> a good job in allowing all players to particpate
> in the game when he can. It is unfortunate that
> others are not recognized and should be and have
> more playing time but if a player says anything he
> should be prepared to turn in his jersey because
> he'll never play. I don't think it's right that
> Townsends kid gets to start EVERY game when you
> have others that are just as skilled. Put a Senior
> in, it's his last year or few weeks left! I can
> see where there ARE favorites and it IS unfair.
> Too late now. Next year will be worse! I don't
> like HS sports and can't wait for college. It is
> so bad, unfair, and not fun. Coach Luther is cool,
> but doesn't see what he has done. Townsend is very
> self absorbed, just looking out for Joey, Carver
> is the BEST, never judges and keeps quiet and so
> does Nevins.

What is the coaches son batting average and how many games has he started? Does he ever not play?

Digby's Mom Wrote:
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> Player, what is your opinion of Digby?
>
> Don't you think he would make a better captain
> than that intemperate upstart, Seth Jordan?

Nick Digby is a good guy. Seth is a well-known jackass both on and off the field.

Any further updates on the behavior of Coach Luther and his merry band of mal-contents?

I know this weather has cancelled some games, but keep us posted.

District Tournament right around the corner-that should fire em up!

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Not Digby's Mom Wrote:
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> Digby's Mom Wrote:
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> > Player, what is your opinion of Digby?
> >
> > Don't you think he would make a better captain
> > than that intemperate upstart, Seth Jordan?
>
> Nick Digby is a good guy. Seth is a well-known
> jackass both on and off the field.

If he is such a jackass, why is he the team captain? Is he one of Luthers pets??

Since this coach is not able to discipline his players he should not be a coach. I wonder if he is able to discipline his students, if not he should not be a teacher.
After 20 years as a baseball coach he should be able to teach his players how to hit, but he is not able to do this. He sends all of his players to a $450.00 hitting camp. Maybe he needs training on being a coach and a teacher.

What a classless guy this coach is. On senior night at SOCO and playing Hayfield he did not start all of the seniors. What a way to treat the players who busted their butts for four years.
Mark Luther is a poor excuse for a high school coach.

You're right he didn't start all of them. There are 12 seniors. He started 10 (one as a DH) and the other 2 went in later. DUH.

You tell me how to start 12?

Mark Luther is a B division coach playing in a C division. He has gotten most of his wins over the years by playing weak teams and losing key games to strong teams. That is the reason he gets out of control when he plays Madison, WSHS, Lake Braddock and others.
Change is needed at SOCO.

The individual who started this forum on SOCO (really not all that hard to determine who the individual is) complains about cheating and fairness in high school sports. This is no way fair or moral, but we are talking about high school sports. If you want to discuss fair, moral or cheating, how about cheating on a loved one (ex. a wife). How fair is that? How moral is that? This is cheating, right?

Here is a new one for you; practice what you preach!

Unless I am convicted by the Rule Book and plain reason - I do not accept the authority of school boards or discussion boards and certainly not the Digbyists, for they have contradicted each other.

I cannot and I will not recant anything.

Here I stand. I cannot do otherwise.

Seth help me. Amen!

Coach Luther is an excellent coach - he goes above and beyond to work with his team and would do anything to help them. I do not appreciate all of these crass, rude, untrue coments about Coach Luther. Stop - dont you people have a life?

District tournaments start today.

Fasten your seat belts, ladies and gents.

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Foreversouthernmagnolia: "dont you people have a life?"

That's really funny coming from someone who has obviously spent a lot of time scrolling through this thread to read all the "crass, rude, untrue comments about Coach Luther." Maybe YOU should get a life, flowerlady, before you turn up your little nose at the rest of us like all you SoCo people do. The SoCo baseball program is a cancer in the Northern Region, and that rot starts at the top.

I think Brian Hall should be the new captain he is way better then all thosae white kids, represent the hood BRIAN, ayy do it for tha souf baby the dirty dirty

I think I should be getting some more ab's especially after my walk against THE annandale atoms in a district game. thank you:) love you all

I agree seth is a jackass and everybody in the dougout after a strikeout is scared for thier lives and well being and are not willing to die. So please Seth stop ramming your head into the fence and throwing stuuff

Personally i find all seths strikeout routines comical the smacking of the bat on the head the ramming of the head into the fence hes just as sore loser i say.

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> I agree seth is a jackass and everybody in the
> dougout after a strikeout is scared for thier
> lives and well being and are not willing to die.
> So please Seth stop ramming your head into the
> fence and throwing stuuff

How long has this player been doing the above? What does the coach do when he gets crazy?

We all go a little mad sometimes. Haven't you?

seth isnt a good player he sucks, he strikes with the bases loaded every time against west springfield. They need to get his ass out of there. i agree he is a jackass

I THINK JOEY TOWNSEND IS WORTHLESS, HE ISNT THAT GOOD. HE JUST SWINGS FOR THE FENCES. MY DAMN GRADNMA COULD DO THAT. OH AND SETH JORDAN IS A JACKASS, AND SHOULD JUST QUIT BASEBALL RIGHT NOW. MAKE US ALL HAPPY. I THINK THEY SHOULD KICK HIM OFF THE TEAM RIGHT NOW. THANK U AND HE SUCKS AT BASEBALL.

Everyone plays favs.. The best player is usualy the fav because he can control an outcome of a game, that is like disciplining Lebron James, obviously he can do whatever he wants because he is the best player, a coaches job is to win and he will be fired if he doesn't so eliminating the best player would affect his job status...get use to it, your son obviously isn't getting playing time but that is to bad

haha who doesnt wanna swing for the fences...droppin bombs are the best. i dont care if i strikeout.

150 k's = 1 hr :)

uhhh stop hating on joey, when your son can get the ball out of the infield in BP then youre allowed to come back on the underground

tyler throws meat and teams like WS and LB who take 90mph BP in practice are so thrown off, take a seat brennan and quit whinning

You can't complain about Joey Townsend playing because when he has been in a slump coach has pulled him out of the lineup just like he should and given him chances and put him back in when he is producing.

Granted Seth should drop in the order to 6 7 or 8 or just maybe out of the lineup and just play defense but coach makes a lot of the right moves, however it does not help when you have a mom crying before the game about playing time when her son is the one pitching! Jesus Christ he has a lot to deal with as it is. He's obviously been doing the right thing making it to regionals the past 4 years in a brand new program and winning 2 district titles. Coach loves his players to compete and thats the mindset he has created in the program and it seems to work.

I think Digby has earned the right to be the captain on the team with his 7 homeruns. Seth I think needs to be pulled from his captain position and be handed to someone like Miller who has pitched a bunch of wins for the Stallions and has proved to be a leader. But overall coach has done a bunch of the right things and I would love to see ANY of you try and do what he does and not get complaints against you. think about that

>I think Digby has earned the right to be the captain on the team with his 7 homeruns<

Thank you. You are not just a baseball observer, but a very astute baseball observer.

I am making up some "I Dig Digby" t-shirts, and will be passing them out at the next game. First come, first served.

>>tyler throws meat and teams like WS and LB who take 90mph BP in practice are so thrown off, take a seat brennan and quit whinning


You know Miller throws about 80% off speed pitches?? So its not like they square up his fastball. Miller has been in tons of varsity pressure situations and almost always works his way out, for example the game against west springfield. Frazier just has 2 starts this year. So maybe down the road he will be essesntial. But for right now I trust miller out there on the mound then anyone else on the team.

Seth Jordan gets too frustrated all the freakin time!!!

This thread is absolutely hilarious. In case you all don't know Digby and Michaels are the other 2 captains on the team. And yea Seth gets crazy on occasion, but he's gotten much better with his anger "problems." Seth still made 1st Team All District due to his reputation last year, but he obviously has the respect of all the other teams in the Patriot District or else they wouldn't have voted for him. And yes, Digby does have 7 Home Runs, but I don't think he's done yet. To whoever wrote the e-mail to Ms. Lipp...are you serious? You really took the time out of your day to complain that a player is cursing? It's high school baseball everybody curses along with the rest of high school sports. You get warned then you don't do it again. I'm sick of hearing people whine about no playing time in HIGH SCHOOL. Be lucky that you even made the team. To all the SoCo Haters...F*CK YOU ALL

i agree. its a sport and stuff happens.

You guys are displaying the worst attitudes I have ever heard. I do not know if you all are parents wishing your kid wasn't riding pine or if you guys are just ridiculously obsessed with high school baseball wishing you were the head coach because all of you obviously have so much experience and would be so much better... Do any of you understand the pressure a head coach has to deal with? All the time they have to put in? If you all think Luther is a bad coach, look at his record, and look at how much the program matters to him. As someone who has played for Coach Luther, I can tell you that he has been one of the best coaches I have ever had and one that has helped me progress as a player. Get a life people and stop bashing a coach who wants to win.

I've played against Coach Luther for 2 years and under him for a summer season and this could be the most ridiculous thing I have ever read. A coach who will go out there and fight for you as hard as you fight for him is a good thing, not a bad thing. Apparently South County parents were the only ones who got the memo that anything less then saintly behavior on the baseball field is unacceptable. Seth is a 1st team all district player, and he holds himself to a higher standard then most players. Also the discussions on who should be playing over who have no merit. Coach Luther is the only one who can make that decision because he is the only one who puts in the work day in and day out. He also knows a hell of a lot about the game and he will put the best 9 out there he can, his record speaks for it's self. Benching a guy for that reaction is just showing him up. Coach Luther made the right call and if his actions show a little to much heart for you, you need to find another sport.

Hey, glad to see all the SOCO boys and grads out in force. Great teamwork on the thread- at least your parents have stopped whining about fundraising!

Question: What happened to Jesse "rocket arm" Beal? ....He of the infamous regional game from last year...
Drafted by the Orioles last June, played some short-season rookie ball, and this year, can't find his name anywhere?
Is he playing somewhere? Trying to go to school? It's a shame he didn't take a scholarship and play in college. Going pro at 18 can be a rude awakening.

And to the "SOCO will win States" poster.....dream on. LOL

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jesse is playing rookie ball for the orioles sarasota affiliate
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/B/Jesse-Beal.shtml

but why do you care so much about him anyways?

ffxdude is a retard Wrote:
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> jesse is playing rookie ball for the orioles
> sarasota affiliate
> http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/B/Jesse-Bea
> l.shtml
>
> but why do you care so much about him anyways?


Because he is a pole smoking faggot who likes highschool boys who 'pitch' and let him 'catch'!

ffxdude is a retard Wrote:
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> jesse is playing rookie ball for the orioles
> sarasota affiliate
> http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/B/Jesse-Bea
> l.shtml
>
> but why do you care so much about him anyways?


I don't care at all--just curious.
Thanks for sending out of date LAST YEAR data though. Thats helpful.
I take it he's out of pro ball now?

Disregard INKY-Tard's post above. He's a DUI-ridden TROLL. LOL

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It is sad that this is a topic. Screamers are everywhere, from HS sports to the office. Coach Luther apparently knows enough to keep his team competitive. Everyone continues to say Seth Jordan has "problems". What if he does? You are saying someone who has a legitimate problem should not be allowed to play sports. Oh, and South County just beat Lake Braddock Friday to secure a spot in the Patriot District championship.

If Jesse Beal failed to make it in pro ball, that has what, exactly, to do with the issues being discussed in this thread?

It's certainly no knock on Luther, or Luther's program.

Did Beal strike you out, or something? Or perhaps you struck out making a pass at him, only to be told fuck off, faggot.

Speaking of which - fuck off, faggot.

ffxdude is dumb Wrote:
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> If Jesse Beal failed to make it in pro ball, that
> has what, exactly, to do with the issues being
> discussed in this thread?
>
> It's certainly no knock on Luther, or Luther's
> program.
>
> Did Beal strike you out, or something? Or perhaps
> you struck out making a pass at him, only to be
> told fuck off, faggot.
>
> Speaking of which - fuck off, faggot.
hahahahahhaahahah damn carried his ass nigga shit

I thought Luther was the knock on his own program, per his behavior cited in this thread.

Although Beal was a knock on the program LAST year, per his behavior noted by the Washington Post, cited in this thread.

I guess some Jordan kid is THIS year's knock on the prgram, noted by his behavior, cited in this thread.

Strike 3.

LOL.

Troll on! LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

(So, in other words, Beal got sent home by the Orioles this year? Bummer, huh?)

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fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> I thought Luther was the knock on his own program,
> per his behavior cited in this thread.
>
> Although Beal was a knock on the program LAST
> year, per his behavior noted by the Washington
> Post, cited in this thread.
>
> I guess some Jordan kid is THIS year's knock on
> the prgram, noted by his behavior, cited in this
> thread.
>
> Strike 3.
>
> LOL.
>
> Troll on! LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>
> (So, in other words, Beal got sent home by the
> Orioles this year? Bummer, huh?)


Like I said earlier...fuck off faggot!