Racist Ray Wrote:
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> LOL at how this took off when I compared the
> Silver Line to Pentagon City. If there is money
> the

niggers

will find it. Go to Chevy Chase near
> the DC line and see how often the Montgomery
> County Police are hanging in front of the
> Tiffany/Jimmy Cho and other overpriced stores near
> Clyde's and the METRO!


Yea, its us playin the racist card right Stabby? Right? Its not you under your multiple teaparty gadsden names

Ain't be foolin nobody Wrote:
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> You already answered once dumbshit.

And just once.

SmarTrip Wrote:
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> Not sure where in NoVa this "Fanatsyland" of yours
> is, but I live among the intelligent people.
> Which is to say, nowhere near you.


TRANSLATION: I live at the Lamb Center.

SmarTrip Wrote:
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> here in the real world Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Looks pretty real to me.
>
> Oh it's real alright. It just didn't cost a
> million dollars. That's just goober-slop fed to
> you by disinformation media propagandists. Nice
> work in slurping it up, doofus.

Damn Washington Post and their disinformation campaigns! I should have known better.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/1-million-bus-stop-opens-in-arlington/2013/03/24/49e5c47e-917c-11e2-9abd-e4c5c9dc5e90_story.html

Don't tell this guy though: http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/1602077/1602199.html#msg-1602199

He seems impressed with the post. I am sure he'd tell you that they are wrong about their misinformation campaign.

DumbTrip Wrote:
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> Sorry, the only pissing you're doing is in your diaper.

Zero points. Yet again!

> Now hold on a second while I go look for a 40K
> sqft lot in a residential neighborhood in
> Merrifield. Can you help me out with that? LoLz

No. If you want to live in Merrifeld, I suggest asking a realtor to drive you through the area.

> Factual evidence has been provided.

No, it hasn't. You posted ancient meaningless speculation. Because that's the best you've got. Serious people are still laughing over it.

> All I did was counter your inane contention that
> people don't use Metro to commit crimes.

Never asserted. You've quite gone around the bend.

> More with the eclipses?

Yes, they're a nice standard for illustrating how utterly thin and phony your claims have been. Worthless racist drivel, basically.

> You seem upset. Taken your medication today?

So eighth-grade cool! But still zero points, moron. Same as it ever was.

The Tea party would rather spend $1-2 Trillion on a War that is draining taxpayer money and in countries that hate us rather than spend the money here in the US. $6 Billion for the Metro Silver Line is peanuts! Same with the Columbia Pike Streetcar. If anything, the US should be investing in mass transit, however we are not because of politics! The Koch Brothers tried to lobby against the Silver Line, as well as numerous other public transit projects throughout the US. They make $135 Billion in revenue each year and donate to organizations that will help push their agenda.

SmarTrip Wrote:
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> No, it hasn't. You posted ancient meaningless
> speculation.

Emails from law enforcement are speculation? Emails that mention what the suspects in custody told them are speculation?

Just when I think you can't get any more idiotic, you go and post this? Thanks for the laugh, Joey.

Keep posting. I have no hesitation about embarrassing you more, old timer. Just make sure the Mrs. changes the Depends before you post next time.

swing and a miss Wrote:
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> Damn Washington Post and their disinformation
> campaigns! I should have known better.

Yes, you should have. But dumb folks often fall for goober pig-slop. That's why so much of it is written. Go behind the pig-slop and you'll find that no million dollar bus stop has ever existed and none will. You CAN do stuff that's beyond pig-slop, can't you?

> Don't tell this guy though:

??? It'll be our little secret then, okay Dorko?

SmarTrip Wrote:
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> Ain't be foolin nobody Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You already answered once dumbshit.
>
> And just once.

Ork Ork

oh gawd Wrote:
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> The Tea party would rather spend $1-2 Trillion on
> a War that is draining taxpayer money and in
> countries that hate us rather than spend the money
> here in the US. $6 Billion for the Metro Silver
> Line is peanuts! Same with the Columbia Pike
> Streetcar. If anything, the US should be investing
> in mass transit, however we are not because of
> politics! The Koch Brothers tried to lobby against
> the Silver Line, as well as numerous other public
> transit projects throughout the US. They make $135
> Billion in revenue each year and donate to
> organizations that will help push their agenda.

Ork Ork

If we don't start doing something about how we live our lives, global warming is going to affect us in a big way. Renewable energy and sustainable transportation should be implemented by federal law. Sorry if this sounds extreme, but the oil/coal lobbyists are hindering a lot of progress that should be going on.

Metro should have another wave of investment that creates more core capacity so that we can we can expand further into the suburbs. Orange Line to Centreville, Blue Line to Lorton/Woodbridge, Yellow Line down route 1; perhaps even create another rail line down Columbia pike. Is it expensive? YES, but it will change how land is developed, and it will discourage further sprawl. We need to begin the dialogue on how we will reduce energy consumption, or convert over entirely to renewable energy sources.

I never ride in anything with less than a V10 in it, the power is great for weaving around in traffic.

It only gets about 8mpg but that's okay, it's my money. It is so comfy, I love it!

oh gawd Wrote:
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> If we don't start doing something about how we
> live our lives, global warming is going to affect
> us in a big way. Renewable energy and sustainable
> transportation should be implemented by federal
> law. Sorry if this sounds extreme, but the
> oil/coal lobbyists are hindering a lot of progress
> that should be going on.
>
> Metro should have another wave of investment that
> creates more core capacity so that we can we can
> expand further into the suburbs. Orange Line to
> Centreville, Blue Line to Lorton/Woodbridge,
> Yellow Line down route 1; perhaps even create
> another rail line down Columbia pike. Is it
> expensive? YES, but it will change how land is
> developed, and it will discourage further sprawl.
> We need to begin the dialogue on how we will
> reduce energy consumption, or convert over
> entirely to renewable energy sources.

Ork Ork

oh gawd Wrote:
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> If we don't start doing something about how we
> live our lives, global warming is going to affect
> us in a big way. Renewable energy and sustainable
> transportation should be implemented by federal
> law. Sorry if this sounds extreme, but the
> oil/coal lobbyists are hindering a lot of progress
> that should be going on.
>
> Metro should have another wave of investment that
> creates more core capacity so that we can we can
> expand further into the suburbs. Orange Line to
> Centreville, Blue Line to Lorton/Woodbridge,
> Yellow Line down route 1; perhaps even create
> another rail line down Columbia pike. Is it
> expensive? YES, but it will change how land is
> developed, and it will discourage further sprawl.
> We need to begin the dialogue on how we will
> reduce energy consumption, or convert over
> entirely to renewable energy sources.

I agree, I have been saying that for years now. Politicians are corrupt.I almost could not believe that Governor McDonnell was pushing the US route 460 plan that would cost $1.4 Billion for a projected 15000 cars per day. Clearly something shady was going on. At least McAuliffe is willing to invest in transit here in NoVA. But why are there so many corrupt politicians? I remember back when everyone saying that oh McDonnell is going to make such a great governor, and here we are today with federal corruption charges.

People who say that the Metro won't bring crime are delusional. The Blacks don't hang out at Pentagon City because it's too close to home, they liked Springfield and they like Tysons because it's farther from home. The Blacks basically come to NOVA because they know that the average person here is affraid of them and that's how they get their rocks off. I know this because they've been doing stuff like this forever, and if you ever ask them or hear why they like to come around here, that's what they say.

I read some of the snippets of the articles posted, and it looks like they cruise around here looking for easy marks; people leaving doors unlocked, leaving stuff in cars, etc. The solution is to stop being such a damn mark! They like to come here because they are attracted to the easy marks, it's too hard to steal where they are from because their is either nothing there to steal or someone will fight them if they try.

Why is it that Blacks always jump Whites when they commit hate crimes? Here's a secret, they do it because Blacks are scared shitless of Whites...

Get a damn backbone and Blacks will leave you alone...
Hey, that rhymed!

SmarTrip Wrote:
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> swing and a miss Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Damn Washington Post and their disinformation
> > campaigns! I should have known better.
>
> Yes, you should have. But dumb folks often fall
> for goober pig-slop. That's why so much of it is
> written. Go behind the pig-slop and you'll find
> that no million dollar bus stop has ever existed
> and none will. You CAN do stuff that's beyond
> pig-slop, can't you?

The Washington Post can't seem to. Are you saying I should not trust their reporting? Where, pray tell, should I go to then for true and respected information?

> > Don't tell this guy though:
>
> ??? It'll be our little secret then, okay Dorko?


Sure thing, I guess you are saying he is an idiot when it comes to recognizing respectable journalism?

DumbTrip Wrote:
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> Emails from law enforcement are speculation?

Certainly the ones in which they plainly state that they are speculating.

> Emails that mention what the suspects in custody
> told them are speculation?

No. But they are not plural, and your one example is more than nine solar eclipses old. It'll be ten in October. I'll send a card. And the fact that these particular thieves arrived in the area via Metro is no more significant than that so many others came and went by car, bus, bicycle, or skateboard. There is nothing but plain stupidity on your part to suggest that these events from 2010 should be taken to foreshadow waves of Tysons area crime once the Silver Line opens. This is mere racist crapola through and through.

> Just when I think you can't get any more idiotic,
> you go and post this? Thanks for the laugh,
> Joey. Keep posting. I have no hesitation about
> embarrassing you more, old timer. Just make sure
> the Mrs. changes the Depends before you post next
> time.

More with the junior high school nonsense. Desperate measures reflective of the fact that you know full well that you've done nothing here but make a damned fool of yourself.

oh gawd Wrote:
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> Metro should have another wave of investment that
> creates more core capacity so that we can we can
> expand further into the suburbs. Orange Line to
> Centreville, Blue Line to Lorton/Woodbridge,
> Yellow Line down route 1; perhaps even create
> another rail line down Columbia pike. Is it
> expensive? YES, but it will change how land is
> developed, and it will discourage further sprawl.
> We need to begin the dialogue on how we will
> reduce energy consumption, or convert over
> entirely to renewable energy sources.

All this and more has been under consideration for years, but it has to be prioritized, planned, studied, and financed. And as for that expense, it will be cheaper to do such things today than at any point in the future. Waiting simply raises the price tag. This of course doesn't matter to those who don't want to spend anything ever.

SmarTrip... Wrote:
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> DumbTrip Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Emails from law enforcement are speculation?
>
> Certainly the ones in which they plainly state
> that they are speculating.

No speculation, suspect confession.

> > Emails that mention what the suspects in
> custody
> > told them are speculation?
>
> No. But they are not plural, and your one example
> is more than nine solar eclipses old. It'll be
> ten in October. I'll send a card.

Send me a water slide too while you're at it. There may be others than the one. Please don't stare at the next eclipse, it appears to be giving you brain damage.

> And the fact
> that these particular thieves arrived in the area
> via Metro is no more significant than that so many
> others came and went by car, bus, bicycle, or
> skateboard.

Unless you were some sort of dummkopf who claimed thieves don't travel via Metro to commit crimes in the neighborhoods surrounding metro stations. I know your thick assed head has yet to grasp this fact.

>There is nothing but plain stupidity
> on your part to suggest that these events from
> 2010 should be taken to foreshadow waves of Tysons
> area crime once the Silver Line opens. This is
> mere racist crapola through and through.

Again, how is it racist? Please point to one post of mine where I indicated what race the criminals were. Just one. Go ahead, Joe.

> > Just when I think you can't get any more
> idiotic,
> > you go and post this? Thanks for the laugh,
> > Joey. Keep posting. I have no hesitation
> about
> > embarrassing you more, old timer. Just make
> sure
> > the Mrs. changes the Depends before you post
> next
> > time.
>
> More with the junior high school nonsense.
> Desperate measures reflective of the fact that you
> know full well that you've done nothing here but
> make a damned fool of yourself.

The only fool here is you, Joe. Go make some bouillabaisse.

not the Post? then where? Wrote:
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> The Washington Post can't seem to.

The Post publishes dozens of articles every day, some of which quote or allude to persons and groups who are pushing pig-slop. The more relevant question though is whether YOU can handle anything more than pig-slop, and it doesn't so far seem that you can.

> Are you saying I should not trust their reporting?

Obviously.

> Where, pray tell, should I go to then for true and
> respected information?

Your business model sucks. It's reflective of an Al Bundy-like high school football mentality. There is no single source you can turn to. Expecting that there would be is pretty much a bad sign for you, though.

> Sure thing, I guess you are saying he is an idiot when
> it comes to recognizing respectable journalism?

And I'm guessing that would be yet another very poor guess on your part.

SmarTrip... Wrote:
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> not the Post? then where? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Washington Post can't seem to.
>
> The Post publishes dozens of articles every day,
> some of which quote or allude to persons and
> groups who are pushing pig-slop. The more
> relevant question though is whether YOU can handle
> anything more than pig-slop, and it doesn't so far
> seem that you can.
>
> > Are you saying I should not trust their
> reporting?
>
> Obviously.
>
> > Where, pray tell, should I go to then for true
> and
> > respected information?
>
> Your business model sucks. It's reflective of an
> Al Bundy-like high school football mentality.
> There is no single source you can turn to.
> Expecting that there would be is pretty much a bad
> sign for you, though.
>
> > Sure thing, I guess you are saying he is an
> idiot when
> > it comes to recognizing respectable journalism?
>
> And I'm guessing that would be yet another very
> poor guess on your part.

Well, oh wise one, show me an article that supports your claim that it didn't cost $1M. Turn on the lights for me and show me the error of my ways.

DumbTrip Wrote:
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> No speculation, suspect confession.

You didn't read your own "evidence", did you.

> Send me a water slide too while you're at it.

Another postcard from around the bend.

> There may be others than the one. Please don't
> stare at the next eclipse, it appears to be giving
> you brain damage.

There may be men on Mars as well, but it's just the one correlative reference that you've found so far. And it's not from this decade.

> Unless you were some sort of dummkopf who claimed
> thieves don't travel via Metro to commit crimes in
> the neighborhoods surrounding metro stations.

I don't know anyone like that. Lawbreakers need to move around as much as the next guy. They are apt to use many sorts and modes of transportation, just like everybody else. The problem here is the racist losers pushing the meme that opening the Silver Line will loose waves and torrents of crime on the Tysons area. After all, the police are upgrading their patrol procedures, so it must be true. Bozos who make and defend claims like that are the problem here

> Again, how is it racist? Please point to one post
> of mine where I indicated what race the criminals
> were. Just one. Go ahead, Joe.

You seem to have had a difficult life, so I'm sorry for whatever this Joe person did to you. But you are pushing a blatantly racist meme that has been pushed perhaps by you and certainly by many racist morons in dozens of FFXU threads. You have not posted a disavowal or disclaimer. Pleading ignorance now would certainly be accurate in your case, but it is not any valid excusification.

> The only fool here is you, Joe. Go make some
> bouillabaisse.

Gee, that makes so much sense. You seem to be coming apart at the seams. Sort of like a piñata that's been repeatedly beaten with a stick.

Looks like the trolls have taken over this thread too.

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Looks like the trolls have taken over this thread
> too.


Fuck off goober fucktard, you're just a worthless asshole. My lawn is being meticulously groomed as I type.

Insult insult, insult. Irrelevant comment.

Than you for proving my point.

help me out then Wrote:
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> Well, oh wise one, show me an article that
> supports your claim that it didn't cost $1M. Turn
> on the lights for me and show me the error of my
> ways.

As an initial upgrade, let me confirm for you that the burden of proof -- and also that of having had some initial idea of what you are talking about -- actually lies with you. Meanwhile if you did some tracing and digging into the details, you would find that the million-dollar claim comes from crooked anti-streetcar partisans who have taken all costs -- both fixed and variable -- through completion of the prototype as if they had been associated with the prototype. This of course is stupid, and no rational or impartial person doing a cost analysis would have done that. Propagandists however don't care about stupid, what with their target audience being fairly drenched in such stuff already. Meanwhile, the various failures and shortcomings of the prototype (especially its lack of scalabilty) led to revised modular design specifications and a $12.6 million contract to produce the next 23 stations. Each of those will cost roughly what a multi-armed traffic signal system would.

So that's the end of the line as far as me carrying you along goes. Incompetent as you may be at it, you'll have to transfer here to some self-propelled mode of further learning.

SmarTrip... Wrote:
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> Bill.N. Wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------------
> > Looks like the trolls have taken over this thread
> > too.
>
> Fuck off goober fucktard, you're just a worthless
> asshole. My lawn is being meticulously groomed as
> I type.

The desperation of the hopelessly dumb is so often ultimately reflected in their sinking to such gutter-level tactics as registering the handle of those who are simply CRUSHING them on the facts, and then putting up inflammatory phony-posts under any variant of it. Calling these people "junior high schoolers" might be quite overly generous. BIG FAT LOSERS certainly covers a good part of it, though.

SmarTrip... Wrote:
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> help me out then Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Well, oh wise one, show me an article that
> > supports your claim that it didn't cost $1M.
> Turn
> > on the lights for me and show me the error of
> my
> > ways.
>
> As an initial upgrade, let me confirm for you that
> the burden of proof -- and also that of having had
> some initial idea of what you are talking about --
> actually lies with you. Meanwhile if you did some
> tracing and digging into the details, you would
> find that the million-dollar claim comes from
> crooked anti-streetcar partisans who have taken
> all costs -- both fixed and variable -- through
> completion of the prototype as if they had been
> associated with the prototype. This of course is
> stupid, and no rational or impartial person doing
> a cost analysis would have done that.
> Propagandists however don't care about stupid,
> what with their target audience being fairly
> drenched in such stuff already. Meanwhile, the
> various failures and shortcomings of the prototype
> (especially its lack of scalabilty) led to revised
> modular design specifications and a $12.6 million
> contract to produce the next 23 stations. Each of
> those will cost roughly what a multi-armed traffic
> signal system would.
>
> So that's the end of the line as far as me
> carrying you along goes. Incompetent as you may
> be at it, you'll have to transfer here to some
> self-propelled mode of further learning.


Ummmm, no. The cost was +$1 million. Because it was the prototype doesn't change that it cost +$1 million. Because it included both necessary design work as well as actual build cost doesn't change that all costs need to be counted and they add up to +$1 million. It is real. It exists. Real money was spent to design and build it.

Then you want to reverse gears and use full end-to-end costs for a traffic light for comparison. lol As if even +$500K for these stops is some kind of bargain in any way other than in comparison with the +$1 million prototype. The stops being only one small part of the overall project btw. Put the full costs of the streetcar project on the same basis and see how that comes out per stop.

SmarTrip... Wrote:
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> help me out then Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Well, oh wise one, show me an article that
> > supports your claim that it didn't cost $1M.
> Turn
> > on the lights for me and show me the error of
> my
> > ways.
>
> As an initial upgrade, let me confirm for you that
> the burden of proof -- and also that of having had
> some initial idea of what you are talking about --
> actually lies with you. Meanwhile if you did some
> tracing and digging into the details, you would
> find that the million-dollar claim comes from
> crooked anti-streetcar partisans who have taken
> all costs -- both fixed and variable -- through
> completion of the prototype as if they had been
> associated with the prototype. This of course is
> stupid, and no rational or impartial person doing
> a cost analysis would have done that.
> Propagandists however don't care about stupid,
> what with their target audience being fairly
> drenched in such stuff already. Meanwhile, the
> various failures and shortcomings of the prototype
> (especially its lack of scalabilty) led to revised
> modular design specifications and a $12.6 million
> contract to produce the next 23 stations. Each of
> those will cost roughly what a multi-armed traffic
> signal system would.
>
> So that's the end of the line as far as me
> carrying you along goes. Incompetent as you may
> be at it, you'll have to transfer here to some
> self-propelled mode of further learning.


So one side can provide numerous sources from the local and national media and you can provide, well, nothing to support your assertion. Color me skeptical.

So, have any sources (besides those from a know it all know nothing on the internet)?

Actual SmarTrip... Wrote:
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> SmarTrip... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bill.N. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > Looks like the trolls have taken over this
> thread
> > > too.
> >
> > Fuck off goober fucktard, you're just a
> worthless
> > asshole. My lawn is being meticulously groomed
> as
> > I type.
>
> The desperation of the hopelessly dumb is so often
> ultimately reflected in their sinking to such
> gutter-level tactics as registering the handle of
> those who are simply CRUSHING them on the facts,
> and then putting up inflammatory phony-posts under
> any variant of it. Calling these people "junior
> high schoolers" might be quite overly generous.
> BIG FAT LOSERS certainly covers a good part of it,
> though.


People who topped 300 lbs shouldn't be labeling anyone fat. Just a hint...

3UUCp Wrote:
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> Ummmm, no. The cost was +$1 million. Because it
> was the prototype doesn't change that it cost +$1
> million. Because it included both necessary
> design work as well as actual build cost doesn't
> change that all costs need to be counted and they
> add up to +$1 million. It is real. It exists.
> Real money was spent to design and build it.

So you have no financial acumen at all, then. That's what the propagandists were counting on. How nice of you to fall so ignorantly into their laps. Whether a prototype or not, the first unit in any production series will look absurdly expensive if the analysis is done as this one was. The claimed million dollars is a FRAUD. Say it with me...FRAUD.

> Then you want to reverse gears and use full
> end-to-end costs for a traffic light for
> comparison. lol As if even +$500K for these stops
> is some kind of bargain in any way other than in
> comparison with the +$1 million prototype. The
> stops being only one small part of the overall
> project btw. Put the full costs of the streetcar
> project on the same basis and see how that comes
> out per stop.

Look up "yardstick". Morons throw around numbers with no clue at all as to how large or small they actually are. Obviously compared to the pauper's wages you make, the cost of almost everything will seem staggering. But the cost of each bus stop is on a par with what it takes to put up traffic lights at a single intersection. Maybe we should stop using traffic lights as well, eh? Think of the savings for taxpayers!

not convinced Wrote:
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> So one side can provide numerous sources from the
> local and national media and you can provide,
> well, nothing to support your assertion. Color me
> skeptical.

So go dig it all out for yourself. You won't be the first to have covered that ground. Until then, I'll just keep coloring you as stupid as the rest of the goobers.

And some still try logic and math with it. Too funny.

Actual; SmarTrip... Wrote:
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> not convinced Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So one side can provide numerous sources from
> the
> > local and national media and you can provide,
> > well, nothing to support your assertion. Color
> me
> > skeptical.
>
> So go dig it all out for yourself. You won't be
> the first to have covered that ground. Until
> then, I'll just keep coloring you as stupid as the
> rest of the goobers.

Burden isn't on me. When you can't prove your claim you cling to insulting others. Others have provided sources for their assertions. You haven't. Until you do, you are all alone on your island of idiocy.

A bitch with your ego would love nothing more to come in here and show a source supporting your claim just to stuff it down our throats. Yet, for some reason, you can't. Wonder why that is....

You have turned into a petulant little bitch. Best to stick to restaurant reviews.

pots and kettles Wrote:
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> People who topped 300 lbs shouldn't be labeling
> anyone fat. Just a hint...

Is this another nonsensical reference to Joe? Bouillabaise?

still not convinced Wrote:
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> Burden isn't on me.

Your claim, your burden. Dude. All you've established here is that you can swallow the swill and spit it back up. You haven't looked at or understood any of it. That leaves you swimming among the stupid.

> When you can't prove your claim you cling to insulting others.

Statements of fact. You are stupid.

> Others have provided sources for their assertions.
> You haven't. Until you do, you are all alone on your
> island of idiocy.

So-called sources are all to the same partisan goober nonsense. The million dollar claim is phony propaganda that persons of any financial sense at all would scoff at. Lots of ignorant pinheads fall far short of that level however.

> A bitch with your ego would love nothing more to
> come in here and show a source supporting your
> claim just to stuff it down our throats. Yet, for
> some reason, you can't. Wonder why that is....

Explanations of how badly and easily you goobers have been defrauded should suffice. But like nearly all useless morons, you have no intellectual curiosity to be piqued at all. You sit and swallow and regurgitate and think you are such clever fellows. Ignorant fatheads would be more like it.

> You have turned into a petulant little bitch.
> Best to stick to restaurant reviews.

LOL! That's the butthurt talking once again. But for whatever you imagine it might be worth, I did get carry-out from Sweetwater Tavern earlier. Quite good. Tell them SmarTrip sent you.

Actual SmarTrip Wrote:
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> still not convinced Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Burden isn't on me.
>
> Your claim, your burden. Dude. All you've
> established here is that you can swallow the swill
> and spit it back up. You haven't looked at or
> understood any of it. That leaves you swimming
> among the stupid.

It is widely accepted and sourced that is cost $1M+. You are the only idiot contending otherwise. An idiot without proof or sources. Stick with your stubborn stupidity. I'm sure you are used to it by now.

> > When you can't prove your claim you cling to
> insulting others.
>
> Statements of fact. You are stupid.

Says the dimwit who can't back up his claims. You're not only an idiot, you are a pussy.

> > Others have provided sources for their
> assertions.
> > You haven't. Until you do, you are all alone on
> your
> > island of idiocy.
>
> So-called sources are all to the same partisan
> goober nonsense. The million dollar claim is
> phony propaganda that persons of any financial
> sense at all would scoff at. Lots of ignorant
> pinheads fall far short of that level however.

Which source is partisan? CBS? Washington Post?

> > A bitch with your ego would love nothing more
> to
> > come in here and show a source supporting your
> > claim just to stuff it down our throats. Yet,
> for
> > some reason, you can't. Wonder why that is....
>
> Explanations of how badly and easily you goobers
> have been defrauded should suffice. But like
> nearly all useless morons, you have no
> intellectual curiosity to be piqued at all. You
> sit and swallow and regurgitate and think you are
> such clever fellows. Ignorant fatheads would be
> more like it.

One link is all it takes to prove your claim. Yet you keep rambling on with nonsense. Par for the course for you.

> > You have turned into a petulant little bitch.
> > Best to stick to restaurant reviews.
>
> LOL! That's the butthurt talking once again. But
> for whatever you imagine it might be worth, I did
> get carry-out from Sweetwater Tavern earlier.
> Quite good. Tell them SmarTrip sent you.

LOL. Figures you'd eat at a restaurant on the downswing. Way to catch up to the 90s!

Time to put your cards on the table. Put up or shut up, fool.

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you fail to prove a damn thing Wrote:
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> It is widely accepted and sourced that is cost $1M+.

Widely accepted by the talentless and incurious swallowers. Tell us again about the WMD in Iraq.

> Which source is partisan? CBS? Washington Post?

The people who came up with the claim. Same folks who insisted that the fundamentals of the economy were strong. Some of you folks are REALLY slow learners, eh?

> One link is all it takes to prove your claim. Yet
> you keep rambling on with nonsense. Par for the
> course for you.

Yup. I'm not going to do your homework for you. Can't lift a finger? Fine. Sit and stew in the stupid. When have you ever done anything else?

> LOL. Figures you'd eat at a restaurant on the
> downswing. Way to catch up to the 90s!

Did you know that GAR is expanding to Gaithersburg in the Fall? Pretty big jump for a Virginia-based group on the downswing. LOL! Just another example of your worse than goober-level ignorance and dumbfuck incompetence!

> Time to put your cards on the table. Put up or
> shut up, fool.

Ace of trumps: You're a worthless ignorant asshole.

Actual SmarTrip... Wrote:
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> 3UUCp Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ummmm, no. The cost was +$1 million. Because
> it
> > was the prototype doesn't change that it cost
> +$1
> > million. Because it included both necessary
> > design work as well as actual build cost
> doesn't
> > change that all costs need to be counted and
> they
> > add up to +$1 million. It is real. It exists.
>
> > Real money was spent to design and build it.
>
> So you have no financial acumen at all, then.
> That's what the propagandists were counting on.
> How nice of you to fall so ignorantly into their
> laps. Whether a prototype or not, the first unit
> in any production series will look absurdly
> expensive if the analysis is done as this one was.
> The claimed million dollars is a FRAUD. Say it
> with me...FRAUD.


Financial acumen? lmao I can add. Per the county, $574,000 in construction costs + $433,000 in design and other ancillary costs + additional costs for initial fixes to the finished stop = +$1 million. Whether they build 23 or 0 others, the cost for the existing stop is +$1 million. Whatever benefits of the R&D and design work done, the remaining stations will be +$500K each for the stops only. Not even considering the several hundred million dollars for the project beyond that.


>
> > Then you want to reverse gears and use full
> > end-to-end costs for a traffic light for
> > comparison. lol As if even +$500K for these
> stops
> > is some kind of bargain in any way other than
> in
> > comparison with the +$1 million prototype. The
> > stops being only one small part of the overall
> > project btw. Put the full costs of the
> streetcar
> > project on the same basis and see how that
> comes
> > out per stop.
>
> Look up "yardstick". Morons throw around numbers
> with no clue at all as to how large or small they
> actually are. Obviously compared to the pauper's
> wages you make, the cost of almost everything will
> seem staggering. But the cost of each bus stop is
> on a par with what it takes to put up traffic
> lights at a single intersection. Maybe we should
> stop using traffic lights as well, eh? Think of
> the savings for taxpayers!


Look up "bullshit." It's an inappropriate and non-comparable "yardstick" where you attempted to count only limited costs for the stops yet want to count full costs including planning, engineering, and everything else related to a traffic light.

Actual SmarTrip... Wrote:
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> you fail to prove a damn thing Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It is widely accepted and sourced that is cost
> $1M+.
>
> Widely accepted by the talentless and incurious
> swallowers. Tell us again about the WMD in Iraq.

Widely accepted by EVERYONE but you. I have a feeling this happens to you quite a bit. Being the stupidest person in the room rarely has its advantages and each of your posts more than proves that.

WMDs? Get with the times, ya old fossil. Plus, once again you are being irrelevant.

> > Which source is partisan? CBS? Washington
> Post?
>
> The people who came up with the claim. Same folks
> who insisted that the fundamentals of the economy
> were strong. Some of you folks are REALLY slow
> learners, eh?

The claim that is widely accepted by EVERYONE but you?

Fundamentals of the economy are strong? Did you just step out if the mid2000s time machine or are you only able to process information this quickly? Don't worry, maybe you'll catch up when you hear about the million dollar bus stop. LoLz

> > One link is all it takes to prove your claim.
> Yet
> > you keep rambling on with nonsense. Par for
> the
> > course for you.
>
> Yup. I'm not going to do your homework for you.

Oh, I see, you can't find a single shred of evidence to support your stupid contentions. That'll happen when you constantly spew diarrhea from your mouth. You should be used to it now. It is probably only here that you get people to call you on it. The rest of the people in your life are more than happy to ignore you and just let you blabber along incessantly.

You know I'm right.

> > LOL. Figures you'd eat at a restaurant on the
> > downswing. Way to catch up to the 90s!
>
> Did you know that GAR is expanding to Gaithersburg
> in the Fall? Pretty big jump for a Virginia-based
> group on the downswing. LOL! Just another
> example of your worse than goober-level ignorance
> and dumbfuck incompetence!

Which GAR? Sweetwater has trended down for that family. Besides, it is Gaithersburg, not Bethesda.

> > Time to put your cards on the table. Put up or
> > shut up, fool.
>
> Ace of trumps: You're a worthless ignorant
> asshole.

Nah, as usual, you ain't got shit.

I'm so embarrassed with this forum. How dare all of you! The devil is really out in Fairfax County. I keep telling my pastor about the fakers who post on the internet; not only this site but all forums. Most of the time just to get a laugh. You know there are some good Christians who use this site to get good information. I am disappointed; I pray that the good lord above will bless you all. If you repent you will be saved by the good lord.

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hUeXh Wrote:
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> Financial acumen? lmao I can add.

That wouldn't be enough, even if it were true.

> Per the county, $574,000 in construction costs + $433,000
> in design and other ancillary costs + additional
> costs for initial fixes to the finished stop = +$1
> million.

That's total expenditure data through the completion of the prototype on what was a $20.8 million contract for 24 stations. That is NOT in any way shape or form the level of expenditures actually attributable to the prototype. The claims released to the press by project opponents are a FRAUD created by people who are paid to produce FRAUD.

> Whether they build 23 or 0 others, the cost for the
> existing stop is +$1 million. Whatever benefits of the
> R&D and design work done, the remaining stations will be
> +$500K each for the stops only.

Better try that again. The 2014 contract includes a standard-sized station unit at $362K and a super-sized unit (comparable to the Walter Reed stop) at $469K. The scalability of the modular units make a variety of configurations possible at reasonable cost.

> Not even considering the several hundred million dollars for the project beyond
> that.

Not even considering the cost of Medicare either.

> Look up "bullshit." It's an inappropriate and
> non-comparable "yardstick" where you attempted to
> count only limited costs for the stops yet want to
> count full costs including planning, engineering,
> and everything else related to a traffic light.

Time to raise the white flag, dude. The traffic light standard was introduced only to provide some perspective. Goobers are so bad with just plain numbers, you know. Anyway, anything beyond dangling a single traffic light in the middle of an intersection is going to end up costing $400-500K to put in. Places like Gallows and Route-50 (where Sweetwater is) are obviously going to be quite a bit more.

Actual SmarTrip.... Wrote:
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>
> That's total expenditure data through the
> completion of the prototype on what was a $20.8
> million contract for 24 stations. That is NOT in
> any way shape or form the level of expenditures
> actually attributable to the prototype. The
> claims released to the press by project opponents
> are a FRAUD created by people who are paid to
> produce FRAUD.


No, they are the numbers provided directly by Dennis Leach, Director of Transportation, for the cost of the prototype stop. The design work done is applicable to the design of the other stops but the cost of the remaining stops is in addition to.

>
> Better try that again. The 2014 contract includes
> a standard-sized station unit at $362K and a
> super-sized unit (comparable to the Walter Reed
> stop) at $469K. The scalability of the modular
> units make a variety of configurations possible at
> reasonable cost.


The current cost estimate for the cost for that part of the project (stops) and the 23 remaining stations is $12.4 million/23 = $539K all-in cost on average/stop.

>
> Not even considering the cost of Medicare either.


Or the drugs that you're obviously taking. Or need to take.

>
> Time to raise the white flag, dude. The traffic
> light standard was introduced only to provide some
> perspective. Goobers are so bad with just plain
> numbers, you know. Anyway, anything beyond
> dangling a single traffic light in the middle of
> an intersection is going to end up costing
> $400-500K to put in. Places like Gallows and
> Route-50 (where Sweetwater is) are obviously going
> to be quite a bit more.


The light itself does not cost $400-$500K. It's an intentionally disingenuously high number. That is the cost for a larger traffic project involving installing a traffic light. Just as the stops are part of a larger project/cost and pointless to consider independent of. Now if you want to figure the cost for each stop on that same basis then you might have a reasonable comparison. But you won't much like the relative numbers.

full of fail after all this time Wrote:
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[Kicking your sorry ass since way back on July 23]

> Widely accepted by EVERYONE but you.

Not hardly, goober. You and the other misfits and mindless shelter-seekers at FFXU make up the bottom of the barrel. Can't keep up and don't want to. Idiots.

> WMDs? Get with the times, ya old fossil. Plus,
> once again you are being irrelevant.

You think of 2002 as being "the old days"? Before your time, was it? LOL! And of course the relevance is that at the time significant numbers of people just like you simply stood there and swallowed all the slop and bullshit that the Bushies could pump out. Bunch of worthless dorkbrains, and at it again in this thread.

> Fundamentals of the economy are strong? Did you
> just step out if the mid2000s time machine or are
> you only able to process information this quickly?

That was 2008, dumbo. That should be as fresh in your mind as this morning's breakfast. How are you going to learn from history if you can't remember any of it?

> Which GAR?

There is only one GAR, idiot.

> Sweetwater has trended down for that family.

Which Sweetwater? There are three of them, as you appear not to know. GAR is also the work of three unrelated founders, as you also appear not to know.

Besides, it is Gaithersburg, not Bethesda.

Yeah, that's why I said Gaithersburg. Dumbfuck.

> Nah, as usual, you ain't got shit.

Well, whatever the case, I'm sure pissing all over you, you stupid beaten fucktard!

Ee3mF Wrote:
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> No, they are the numbers provided directly by
> Dennis Leach, Director of Transportation, for the
> cost of the prototype stop. The design work done
> is applicable to the design of the other stops but
> the cost of the remaining stops is in addition
> to.

No, those are the total project amounts expended through the completion of the prototype. Then the FRAUD starts, attributing 100% of those costs to the single prototype.

> The current cost estimate for the cost for that
> part of the project (stops) and the 23 remaining
> stations is $12.4 million/23 = $539K all-in cost
> on average/stop.

No, the current contract was written for $12.4 million. That reflects a 30% contingency reserve added to station construction costs. The actual contract base is $10.6 million, and the final is apt to be between the two. Meanwhile, four of the stations are double-stops: two separate structures at the same location. The quasi-correct number to divide by is therefore the 27 physical structures, not the 23 geographical stops.

> The light itself does not cost $400-$500K. It's
> an intentionally disingenuously high number. That
> is the cost for a larger traffic project involving
> installing a traffic light.

So you're saying that I confused installing a traffic light with installing a traffic light? Thanks for that valuable bit of input. Meanwhile, if you want to add a modest traffic light to an intersection that doesn't have one, it will cost you $400-500K.

> Just as the stops are part of a larger project/cost
> and pointless to consider independent of. Now if you
> want to figure the cost for each stop on that same
> basis then you might have a reasonable comparison.
> But you won't much like the relative numbers.

Dude, you're swimming upstream after some heavy rains. The cost of a bus stop will be quite comparable to the cost of installing a moderately complex traffic light, no matter how you slice it.

Did I forget to mention you're a total goober fucktard! I am over 50 and am well off, I bet you know no one else like me. Fucktard.

and spittle flying. Even after a complete and utter beatdown.

Math > you, jewh8ter, or "gooberacistasshole"...

Actual SmarTrip.... Wrote:
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>
> No, those are the total project amounts expended
> through the completion of the prototype. Then the
> FRAUD starts, attributing 100% of those costs to
> the single prototype.


No, they are not. The are attributable primarily to the construction of the prototype. You're forgetting how we got here.

The prototype was done under the original $1.7 million contract with WMATA for construction of three stops. Initial design was done within some portion of $396K in funds dedicated to various Columbia Pike projects under a separate contract to HOK + another $85K sole-source extension for the design and engineering services for the three-stop project. After taking forever to finish and becoming a target of ridicule over the cost and overruns for the prototype, Donnellan halted that project and pulled it back from WMATA. That effectively ended the three-stop project which ended up as a one-stop prototype project and is the basis for the $574,000 in hard construction costs + $433,000 in other associated costs. The vast majority of the latter being project and construction management costs, environmental and siting related to that specific structure and site. It may not be 100% but it's damn close.

That's what yielded the earlier $20.9 million estimate which assumed about a 10% reduction in cost on average for each of the 23 future stops (approx $900K/stop). Which then in turn resulted in a shit storm of push-back and prompted the additional independent reviews, redesign work, other planning, etc., to get to the redesigned lower-cost plan. In addition to fixes to the original structure. All of which was done at additional cost over and above the initial +$1 million already spent.


> No, the current contract was written for $12.4
> million. That reflects a 30% contingency reserve
> added to station construction costs. The actual
> contract base is $10.6 million, and the final is
> apt to be between the two. Meanwhile, four of the
> stations are double-stops: two separate
> structures at the same location. The
> quasi-correct number to divide by is therefore the
> 27 physical structures, not the 23 geographical
> stops.
>


Given past experience for this project, they'll likely need every penny of that contingency.

There are 23 stops. Putting a double structure on a site doesn't change the number of stops. The county doesn't even try to play that kind of stupid game.

>
> So you're saying that I confused installing a
> traffic light with installing a traffic light?
> Thanks for that valuable bit of input. Meanwhile,
> if you want to add a modest traffic light to an
> intersection that doesn't have one, it will cost
> you $400-500K.
>
>
> Dude, you're swimming upstream after some heavy
> rains. The cost of a bus stop will be quite
> comparable to the cost of installing a moderately
> complex traffic light, no matter how you slice it.


No, I'm not arguing the potential cost for a traffic signal. I'm saying that you are disingenuously presenting a traffic signal as something seemingly simple but more expensive than it may seem as a way to justify a comparable cost for the stops. In fact installing a traffic signal is, at least in any moderately complex case, a far more significant project than a glorified bus stop. The $500K-ish type numbers reflect the whole of significant planning and engineering work, construction, equipment, controllers, communications, other infrastructure, etc., which most don't associate with a simple traffic light. They are non-comparable in terms of typical complexity or necessary cost.

will try to deflect by calling posters "asshole" , "goober", or "racist", or by willfully lying about the presented information in 3... 2... 1...

So we can only guess you went to a BMW Dealership and snapped a photo right....we know you can't afford an M series!

See, even the niggers from PG and the District are scoping out all the new potential crime in Tysons. Go to the 4 minute mark.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/video/#!/news/local/Metros-New-Silver-LIne-Opens-To-Big-Crowds/268744371

Our company moved out of Tyson’s last year and it wasn’t a moment too soon. There is now a feeling that parking in Tyson’s will be a shit show. Office buildings with parking garages will need to become much more careful about limiting access or they will be faced with squatters snagging free spaces.

Actual SmarTrip.... Wrote:
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> full of fail after all this time Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> [Kicking your sorry ass since way back on July
> 23]
>
> > Widely accepted by EVERYONE but you.
>
> Not hardly, goober. You and the other misfits and
> mindless shelter-seekers at FFXU make up the
> bottom of the barrel. Can't keep up and don't
> want to. Idiots.

Yup. Even the county admitted the folly of its ways and issued statements and commissioned a report. Too bad you aren't informed enough to have seen this.

> > WMDs? Get with the times, ya old fossil.
> Plus,
> > once again you are being irrelevant.
>
> You think of 2002 as being "the old days"? Before
> your time, was it? LOL! And of course the
> relevance is that at the time significant numbers
> of people just like you simply stood there and
> swallowed all the slop and bullshit that the
> Bushies could pump out. Bunch of worthless
> dorkbrains, and at it again in this thread.

I think you have Bush on the brain syndrome. It is actually pretty obvious. Bush is completely irrelevant to this topic (as are you).

> > Fundamentals of the economy are strong? Did
> you
> > just step out if the mid2000s time machine or
> are
> > you only able to process information this
> quickly?
>
> That was 2008, dumbo. That should be as fresh in
> your mind as this morning's breakfast. How are
> you going to learn from history if you can't
> remember any of it?

Remembering it still doesn't make it relevant.

> > Which GAR?
>
> There is only one GAR, idiot.

GAR stands for Great American Restaurants. Notice the "s" there on the end of the word Restaurants? (I bolded it for you). Well, they run a bunch of different Restaurants. Some are called Sweetwater, a couple of Coastal Flats, a Mike's, a Silverado, a Carlyle. Well, you get the idea. Any dipshit with half a brain would have understood the question. I guess that explains why you didn't.

> > Sweetwater has trended down for that family.
>
> Which Sweetwater? There are three of them, as you
> appear not to know. GAR is also the work of three
> unrelated founders, as you also appear not to
> know.

I have only been to the Merrifield one recently. The first time I went, the food was not as ordered. I chalked it up to one bad time. The second time, I had to send the food back as it was actually served below room temperature. After discussing it with neighbors and friends, all agreed Sweetwater is the weak link in that chain and has been doing so for a few years.

> Besides, it is Gaithersburg, not Bethesda.
>
> Yeah, that's why I said Gaithersburg. Dumbfuck.

Which indicates you know nothing of the area.

> > Nah, as usual, you ain't got shit.
>
> Well, whatever the case, I'm sure pissing all over
> you, you stupid beaten fucktard!

Save your golden showers for your boyfriend.

DumbTrip Wrote:
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Party's over, dumbfuck. Sorry you had such a bad time...

-- The dishonest $1 million number is everything that had been spent under the terminated contract to the point of completion of the prototype. The WMATA contractor by the way was KPG, not HOK. So hard to keep all those letters straight.

-- The ease and frequency with which you have been recently punked by duplicitous right-wing rubes is entirely relevant to your belief in fairy tales generally.

-- No matter how many restaurants they run or how many S's are in the name, there is still only one GAR. Moron.

-- Sweetwater has ranked with the likes of Chez Francois in local popularity polls. Here is a recent Zagat summary...

"Always crowded", this "cowboy-themed" Southwestern microbrewery chain in NoVa "never disappoints" – whether for "splendid" eats like the "beyond-delicious" rolls and "to-die-for" drunken rib-eye or the "awesome" fresh-brewed beer and root beer; the only bitter notes are sounded by some who cite "ear-shattering" noise and the no-reservations policy ("call ahead . . . way ahead"), though "prompt" service and "reasonable" prices more than make up for it.

-- I don't think you dine out often at all. If you receive a bad meal or service anywhere, you should ask to speak with the manager. At Merrifield, not only would your alleged issues have been resolved, but you would have been handed a "Be Our Guest" card for a discounted future dining experience. Seems like you bobbled that ball as well. At least you're consistent.

-- You are the only stooge who ever imagined Bethesda. The posts of all the intelligent people always referred to Gaithersburg. More just plain stupid out of your mouth. Pretty much all we ever got from you here.

-- I'm better than you guys, I make more money than you, I'm more important!

-- I have so many friends!

-- My estate in Vienna is now worth almost $4 million

-- According to mel-heers theory, illegal hispanics pay more in taxes

-- I have tons of friends!

Actual SmarTrip... Wrote:
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> DumbTrip Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> Party's over, dumbfuck. Sorry you had such a bad
> time...

The music is still playing and you are still stupid.

> -- The dishonest $1 million number is everything
> that had been spent under the terminated contract
> to the point of completion of the prototype.

Hence the $1M bus stop. You can type it, you just can't understand it. Plus, you can't even support your assertion.

> The WMATA contractor by the way was KPG, not HOK. So
> hard to keep all those letters straight.

Not really relevant and not brought up. But then again, you are full of irrelevant.

> -- The ease and frequency with which you have been
> recently punked by duplicitous right-wing rubes is
> entirely relevant to your belief in fairy tales
> generally.

No, only in your fantasy land. But then again, your fantasy land is full of golden showers.

> -- No matter how many restaurants they run or how
> many S's are in the name, there is still only one
> GAR. Moron.

Each restaurant is a different Great American Restaurant. It doesn't take a simpleton to realize this, which is why you can't seem to grasp it. When one claims GAR is placing a restaurant in Gaithersburg, asking which one is patently obvious to a normal person with the thinking ability of a second grader. Once again, you fail.

> -- Sweetwater has ranked with the likes of Chez
> Francois in local popularity polls.

Which is probably what you tell yourself when you step into Sweetwater. Maybe one day you'll step into Chez Francois and actually experience the difference. Until then, settle for Sweetwater.

> Here is a recent Zagat summary...

> "Always crowded", this "cowboy-themed"

Great, they have some nice pictures on the wall and a few steer horns. Something tells me you dig this motif.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Gay_Rodeo_Association

You probably confuse GAR and GRA.

> Southwestern microbrewery chain in NoVa "never
> disappoints"

Well, it has in both quality of food and in service. Not going back.

> – whether for "splendid" eats like
> the "beyond-delicious" rolls and

They are donuts. Who doesn't like donuts? I bet you like 'em, eh fatty?

> "to-die-for"
> drunken rib-eye or the

Last time I had it, it was grisly and not prepared to order. That was about two years ago and did not order it on return trips.

> "awesome" fresh-brewed beer
> and root beer;

This is true.

> the only bitter notes are sounded
> by some who cite "ear-shattering" noise and the
> no-reservations policy ("call ahead . . . way
> ahead"), though "prompt" service and "reasonable"
> prices more than make up for it.

True.

> -- I don't think you dine out often at all. If
> you receive a bad meal or service anywhere, you
> should ask to speak with the manager. At
> Merrifield, not only would your alleged issues
> have been resolved, but you would have been handed
> a "Be Our Guest" card for a discounted future
> dining experience. Seems like you bobbled that
> ball as well. At least you're consistent.

Nope, got the $30 be our guest card. I gave it to my wife to use at lunch sometime as I will not be returning. The issue could not be resolved as the waiter did not return to check on my table until after the rest of my party had finished their meals. Sure, they offered to fix my meal, and then I can sit there and eat it while the rest of my party watched or I can take it home and eat it luke warm. At that point, after multiple bad trips to the place, I was done.


> -- You are the only stooge who ever imagined
> Bethesda. The posts of all the intelligent people
> always referred to Gaithersburg. More just plain
> stupid out of your mouth. Pretty much all we ever
> got from you here.

You obviously don't understand the difference between Bethesda and Gaithersburg. I bet you live in Reston or some other similarly situated exurban nightmare.

Actual SmarTrip... Wrote:
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> DumbTrip Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> Party's over, dumbfuck. Sorry you had such a bad
> time...
>
> -- The dishonest $1 million number is everything
> that had been spent under the terminated contract
> to the point of completion of the prototype.
>

Which yielded a single ~$1 million bus stop.

> The WMATA contractor by the way was KPG, not HOK. So
> hard to keep all those letters straight.

Hellmuth, Obata + Kassabaum, PC aka HOK did the design work. Which was separate from and in addition to the WMATA construction contract.

http://arlington.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=169&meta_id=29491

Much of which had to be re-done at added cost after the ~$1 million bus stop debacle.

so full of fail Wrote:
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> The music is still playing and you are still stupid.

Those voices in your head are not music.

> Hence the $1M bus stop.

So you realize at last that the liars have been lying -- the $1 million is in fact total contract expenses, not station-related costs at all! Your apology is accepted. Try not being such a douche about these things in the future.

> Not really relevant and not brought up.

Of course HOK was brought up. By you. Just as Bethesda was. And the general fly-by-night unreliability of your claims is quite relevant to a general sense of your complete lack of credibility.

> When one claims GAR is placing a restaurant
> in Gaithersburg...

What happened to Bethesda?

> ...asking which one is patently obvious to a
> normal person with the thinking ability of a
> second grader. Once again, you fail.

None of the brands is capable of opening a new restaurant. Only GAR can do that. There is only one GAR. As I've had to pound into your dense little head.

> Which is probably what you tell yourself when you
> step into Sweetwater. Maybe one day you'll step
> into Chez Francois and actually experience the
> difference. Until then, settle for Sweetwater.

You know, I used to be really fond of Chez Francois when it was down on Connecticut Avenue. Wonderful place to top off an evening of dance or theater. I was worried about the Metro-induced move out to Great Falls, but they pulled it off magnificently, at least until Papa Francois passed on. It's still a very nice place of course, perhaps especially a candle-lit patio dinner on an early autumn evening, but the place has come down in the world since the founder departed. I don't go as often as I used to. The more time to spend at Patrick O'Connell's country place instead. He's not getting any younger either.

> They are donuts. Who doesn't like donuts? I bet
> you like 'em, eh fatty?

Actually, I am not fond of Ozzie rolls, and of course, they are not doughnuts. A foodie is yet another thing that you definitely are not. Even so, at least the GAR outlets I've been to -- all of them except Centreville -- do a very nice job. Excellent food, reasonable prices, attentive service. Your comments are made-up nonsense.

> Nope, got the $30 be our guest card.

LOL! Goober never heard of a BOG card until I mentioned them.

> The issue could not be resolved as the waiter
> did not return to check on my table until after
> the rest of my party had finished their meals.

You've never actually been in a GAR restaurant, have you? All of them operate on a "team service" concept. ALL waiters are YOUR waiters and all of them are trained to keep an eye out for your every need. Water or drink refill needed? Used plate or straw wrapper sitting on the table? The next wait-person to come by will take care of that for you. The idea that you could be ignored at a GAR place is simply another of your absurd myths and fabrications -- just plain bullshit from start to finish. By the way, there is no gristle in a rib-eye. It's an anatomical thing.

> You obviously don't understand the difference
> between Bethesda and Gaithersburg.

The difference is about 14 miles worth of I-270. Look at a map, dumbass.

> I bet you live in Reston or some other similarly
> situated exurban nightmare.

Unremarkably, that's yet another wild swing and miss. And of course, anyone but a hopeless stooge would understand that Reston is not an exurb. Moron.

again, part #4,428

14 miles from Bethesda to GB? Really? Try around 4 or 5, dumbfuq. And yes, there can be gristle in a ribeye - at either end of the cut. You = pretend to know WTF fails again.

Waiter fails = "can't happen" @ GAR? Are you purposely that stupid or is it just an act?

And the WaPo still reports +1M total for one service point (stop). Do you have anything concrete to refute this?

You couldn't find La'b on a fucking map, you goober racist asshole.

hilarity ensues.

Why so faggot, bro? U mad?

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> So you realize at last that the liars have been
> lying

Yes, I have realized for quite some time that you are nothing but a liar. You have made it obvious for months.

> -- the $1 million is in fact total contract
> expenses, not station-related costs at all!

One station built, $1M spent. A very simple concept that even a numbskull can grasp, yet you still can't get it.

> > Not really relevant and not brought up.
>
> Of course HOK was brought up. By you.

Nope. Try again, slappy.

> Just as
> Bethesda was.

Yup, and you are still too thick to figure out why. Almost like you relish playing the retard on the internet.

> And the general fly-by-night
> unreliability of your claims is quite relevant to
> a general sense of your complete lack of
> credibility.

LOL. Rich coming from a confirmed liar.

> > When one claims GAR is placing a restaurant
> > in Gaithersburg...
>
> What happened to Bethesda?

Last I checked, nothing. It is still there. The point in mentioning Bethesda is to point out that it offers a far different clientele than Gaithersburg and that if GAR offerings were improving, they'd move to capture the upscale clientele of the Bethesda instead of the folks in Gaithersburg. Somewhat sad I had to spell it out for you, but then again, you've more than proven the point that you very slow to grasp simple concepts.

> > ...asking which one is patently obvious to a
> > normal person with the thinking ability of a
> > second grader. Once again, you fail.
>
> None of the brands is capable of opening a new
> restaurant. Only GAR can do that. There is only
> one GAR. As I've had to pound into your dense
> little head.

And GAR will name that restaurant and each is different. I think I can pound and pound this over and over into your head and you still won't get it.

> > Which is probably what you tell yourself when
> you
> > step into Sweetwater. Maybe one day you'll
> step
> > into Chez Francois and actually experience the
> > difference. Until then, settle for Sweetwater.
>
> You know, I used to be really fond of Chez
> Francois when it was down on Connecticut Avenue.
> Wonderful place to top off an evening of dance or
> theater. I was worried about the Metro-induced
> move out to Great Falls, but they pulled it off
> magnificently, at least until Papa Francois passed
> on. It's still a very nice place of course,
> perhaps especially a candle-lit patio dinner on an
> early autumn evening, but the place has come down
> in the world since the founder departed. I don't
> go as often as I used to. The more time to spend
> at Patrick O'Connell's country place instead. He's
> not getting any younger either.

Blah, blah, blah, namedrop, sound important, blah, blah, blah.

> > They are donuts. Who doesn't like donuts? I
> bet
> > you like 'em, eh fatty?
>
> Actually, I am not fond of Ozzie rolls, and of
> course, they are not doughnuts. A foodie is yet
> another thing that you definitely are not. Even
> so, at least the GAR outlets I've been to -- all
> of them except Centreville -- do a very nice job.
> Excellent food, reasonable prices, attentive
> service. Your comments are made-up nonsense.

My comments are spot on, your palate is pedestrian, much like the rest of your existence.

> > Nope, got the $30 be our guest card.
>
> LOL! Goober never heard of a BOG card until I
> mentioned them.

Keep telling yourself that. How'd I know the exact amount they come in???? D'oh, dipshit keeps fucking up over and over. It doesn't get old for me seeing you fail over and over again. Does it get old for you?

> > The issue could not be resolved as the waiter
> > did not return to check on my table until after
>
> > the rest of my party had finished their meals.
>
>
> You've never actually been in a GAR restaurant,
> have you?

Haven't been to all of them, but I've been to Sweetwater (Merrifield), Coastal Flats, Silverado, Mike's and Carlyle.

> All of them operate on a "team service"
> concept.

And the team failed miserably on my last visit.

> ALL waiters are YOUR waiters and all of
> them are trained to keep an eye out for your every
> need.

In this case NONE of the waiters were MY waiters.

> Water or drink refill needed? Used plate or
> straw wrapper sitting on the table? The next
> wait-person to come by will take care of that for
> you. The idea that you could be ignored at a GAR
> place is simply another of your absurd myths and
> fabrications -- just plain bullshit from start to
> finish.

To think that mistakes can't be made in a restaurant is ridiculous. As I said, I can abide by it on occasion. However, three straight unsatisfying trips will pretty much take an establishment off my list for a while, if not permanently.

> By the way, there is no gristle in a
> rib-eye. It's an anatomical thing.

Wrong. Wrong on so many levels. While rib eye USUSALLY has very little to no gristle, its presence indicates an inferior cut of meat that is usually served by inferior restaurants - hence, my disappointment. If the rib eye is not trimmed from the bone properly, you will have gristle.

http://www.addictedtogrilling.com/grilling-tips/how-grill-steak/choosing-right-steak



> > You obviously don't understand the difference
> > between Bethesda and Gaithersburg.
>
> The difference is about 14 miles worth of I-270.
> Look at a map, dumbass.

Know anything about demographics or is that too difficult for you as well?

> > I bet you live in Reston or some other similarly
>
> > situated exurban nightmare.
>
> Unremarkably, that's yet another wild swing and
> miss. And of course, anyone but a hopeless stooge
> would understand that Reston is not an exurb.
> Moron.

Right. Living along a toll road miles from the beltway is an inner suburb. Dummy.

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> Which yielded a single ~$1 million bus stop.

Gee, the equally weak-minded doppelganger is stuck on the same stupid lie. There's a shock.

> Hellmuth, Obata + Kassabaum, PC aka HOK did the
> design work. Which was separate from and in
> addition to the WMATA construction contract.

Wrong contract, pinhead. WMATA's contract with HOK ran from 2003 to 2006. Then it expired. That means ended. Arlington signed a small follow-on contract with HOK in 2007. They were to serve as a short-term consultant to the County re the work they had previously delivered to WMATA. The station designs actually under discussion were debated and finalized in 2010 and 2011, then there were 18 months of construction leading up to completion of the prototype in early 2013.

> Much of which had to be re-done at added cost
> after the ~$1 million bus stop debacle.

Fiddle-faddle. Virtually everything tangible that was done under the original $20.8 million contract remained in place and usable under the revised $12.4 million contract -- you know, the one for the 27 station structures at 23 locations.

"virtually"?

You still can't refute the WaPo.

Racist goober asshole...

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Nothing but more pointless piles of whiny low-grade know-nothing goober shit. Same as it ever was. See your worthless ass being handed to you (again) below. Retard.
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> Tuesday Fails, for the Fail King Wrote:
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> Nothing but more pointless piles of whiny
> low-grade know-nothing goober shit. Same as it
> ever was. See your worthless ass being handed to
> you (again) below. Retard.
> .

Not me, shit for brains. I never contested your correct assertion of 14 miles, which more than proves my point that a GAR is really only good enough for an outside the beltway crowd. Then again, I've handed you your ass on every topic.

You're going to have to accept the fact more than one person doesn't accept your bullshit alternate reality. Will your fragile ego allow you to do that?

Actual SmarTrip.... Wrote:
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> MuYc4 Wrote:
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> > Which yielded a single ~$1 million bus stop.
>
> Gee, the equally weak-minded doppelganger is stuck
> on the same stupid lie. There's a shock.

Yes, you do seem stuck on stupid in trying to deny reality.

>
> > Hellmuth, Obata + Kassabaum, PC aka HOK did the
> > design work. Which was separate from and in
> > addition to the WMATA construction contract.
>
> Wrong contract, pinhead. WMATA's contract with
> HOK ran from 2003 to 2006. Then it expired. That
> means ended. Arlington signed a small follow-on
> contract with HOK in 2007. They were to serve as
> a short-term consultant to the County re the work
> they had previously de2livered to WMATA. The
> station designs actually under discussion were
> debated and finalized in 2010 and 2011, then there
> were 18 months of construction leading up to
> completion of the prototype in early 2013.
>

Right contract. As referenced in the link, HOK did the original design work, along with designs for improvements to the Clarendon and Crystal City Metro stops, under a separate contract with $396,340 in funding for a prototype design for use at 7 “Super Stops” along Columbia Pike.

http://arlingtonva.s3.amazonaws.com/cbo/2003/dec/1206/25.pdf

The later WMATA agreement was for the *construction* of 3 prototype stations based on that design.

The $85K sole-source award referenced was for services to be performed during *construction* phase of the 3-prototype project as justified based on its earlier design work.

That all ended up as the single +$1 million prototype.


> > Much of which had to be re-done at added cost
> > after the ~$1 million bus stop debacle.
>
> Fiddle-faddle. Virtually everything tangible that
> was done under the original $20.8 million contract
> remained in place and usable under the revised
> $12.4 million contract -- you know, the one for
> the 27 station structures at 23 locations.

There were no $20.8 or $12.4 million contracts. There were proposals and later revisions to designs based on experience with the completed +$1 million prototype. Funding for the larger project and other Columbia Pike improvements wasn't even approved until last week.

still failing again and again Wrote:
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> Actual SmarTrip.... Wrote:
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> > Tuesday Fails, for the Fail King Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > Nothing but more pointless piles of whiny
> > low-grade know-nothing goober shit. Same as it
> > ever was. See your worthless ass being handed
> to
> > you (again) below. Retard.
> > .
>
> Not me, shit for brains. I never contested your
> correct assertion of 14 miles, which more than
> proves my point that a GAR is really only good
> enough for an outside the beltway crowd. Then
> again, I've handed you your ass on every topic.
>
> You're going to have to accept the fact more than
> one person doesn't accept your bullshit alternate
> reality. Will your fragile ego allow you to do
> that?


The pwnmo is strong with this one!

+1

"Bethesda" is a CDP primarily inside 495, with one section north along Rockville Pike, which amazingly is a total of 4 miles from the southern end of Gaithersburg.

Now let's get back to realizing that you're a clueless fucktard, ok?

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> "virtually"?

Yes, virtually. Is that a new word to you?

> You still can't refute the WaPo.

I have half a dozen times. The number published was a phony number generated by crooked streetcar opponents. See the many posts up-thread explaining how and why.

still failing again and again Wrote:
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> Not me, shit for brains. I never contested your
> correct assertion of 14 miles...

Oh, it wasn't you. I see.

> ...which more than proves my point that a GAR is
> really only good enough for an outside the beltway
> crowd.

You never made that point. That was somebody else.

> You're going to have to accept the fact more than
> one person doesn't accept your bullshit alternate
> reality.

Not in this thread. It's just fucking you, loser, and you're getting your teeny-weeny head stove in.

nGGnx Wrote:
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> Right contract. As referenced in the link, HOK
> did the original design work, along with designs
> for improvements to the Clarendon and Crystal City
> Metro stops, under a separate contract with
> $396,340 in funding for a prototype design for use
> at 7 “Super Stops” along Columbia Pike.

Didn't survive. The HOK contract EXPIRED in 2006. The actual designs were submitted, reviewed, and debated in 2010 and 2011 with construction beginning in late 2011. 2010 and 2011 are well after 2006.

> The later WMATA agreement was for the
> *construction* of 3 prototype stations based on
> that design.

The design as finalized in 2011.

> The $85K sole-source award referenced was for
> services to be performed during *construction*
> phase of the 3-prototype project as justified
> based on its earlier design work.

As stated earlier, it was for as-needed consulting service to Arlington County re prior work delivered to WMATA under a contract that no longer existed.

> That all ended up as the single +$1 million prototype.

That all led to construction of a single prototype which dirty rotten artisan scoundrels lied about, saying that it cost $1 million.

> There were no $20.8 or $12.4 million contracts.

Sheesh!

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> "Bethesda" is a CDP primarily inside 495, with one
> section north along Rockville Pike, which
> amazingly is a total of 4 miles from the southern
> end of Gaithersburg.

Seriously? The Bethesda CDP is outlined below in red. Which section is it that you feel comes within 4 miles of the southern end of Gaithersburg?
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> The point in mentioning Bethesda is to point out
> that it offers a far different clientele than
> Gaithersburg...

No, feeble one, you were simply confused as to the location, and in the sadly mistaken manner in which you seem to do virtually everything, you typed the wrong one.

> ...and that if GAR offerings were improving, they'd
> move to capture the upscale clientele of the Bethesda
> instead of the folks in Gaithersburg.

GAR has opened a number of restaurants. Each time, they've carefully studied all aspects of every candidate area. Bethesda obviously lost out. Many factors come into play here. The ability to obtain and develop property is one of them.

> And GAR will name that restaurant and each is different.

Actually, there are three Sweetwaters and there will be three Coastal Flats once the one in Gaithersburg opens. Dumb shit!

> Blah, blah, blah, namedrop, sound important, blah,> blah, blah.

Eat my dust, asshole. That's all you CAN do. The length and breath of my epicurean history dwarfs yours. Even if I drop dead tomorrow, you will never catch up.

> My comments are spot on, your palate is
> pedestrian, much like the rest of your existence.

As I keep demonstrating, your comments are for shit. Most of them are lies, and the rest of them are stupid. Can't expect much more from an ignorant asshole though.

> How'd I know the exact amount they come in????

Well, you might want to call Sweetwater and ask them about that. The actuality is that BOG cards do not come in preset amounts. Managers load them with whatever amounts they see fit at the time. Looks like yet another case of YOU = STUPID ASSFUCK LYING DUMBSHIT.

> To think that mistakes can't be made in a
> restaurant is ridiculous.

Of course. And to think that vacuous LIES cannot be told by desperate ignorant asshole twits on the internet is also ridiculous. You've made a complete ass of yourself over and over and over again here. Other than that, you've not made much progress, dumbfuck.

> Wrong. Wrong on so many levels. While rib eye
> USUSALLY has very little to no gristle, its
> presence indicates an inferior cut of meat that is
> usually served by inferior restaurants - hence, my
> disappointment. If the rib eye is not trimmed
> from the bone properly, you will have gristle.

Gristle is cooked cartilage. A rib-eye consists of the meat from three muscles and a bunch of fat. No cartilage at all.

> Right. Living along a toll road miles from the
> beltway is an inner suburb. Dummy.

LOL! Reston is not an inner suburb either. Are you so ignorantly binary as to believe that "exurbs" and "inner suburbs" are all that there are? Limits to your stupidity appear not to exist.

Actual SmarTrip.... Wrote:
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> nGGnx Wrote:
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> > Right contract. As referenced in the link, HOK
> > did the original design work, along with
> designs
> > for improvements to the Clarendon and Crystal
> City
> > Metro stops, under a separate contract with
> > $396,340 in funding for a prototype design for
> use
> > at 7 “Super Stops” along Columbia Pike.
>
> Didn't survive. The HOK contract EXPIRED in 2006.
> The actual designs were submitted, reviewed, and
> debated in 2010 and 2011 with construction
> beginning in late 2011. 2010 and 2011 are well
> after 2006.


The contract didn't need to 'survive.' The design deliverables for the prototype station(s) were completed in 2005/2006 at a cost of $396,340.

The design did survive and was what was used as the basis for the 'Super Stop' project at an estimated cost of $21 million as included in the County's 5-year Capital Improvement Plan for FY07-FY12 approved in 2006.

It's also the design as it went forward to various required reviews/approvals by VDOT and some Fed review where it was pending all of that until about mid-2010. There were no substantive changes to HOK's design other than minor for compliance.

The county issued the go for the 3-stop prototype project based on the same design under the agreement with WMATA in 3/2011. Actual construction began in 9/2011. The county bailed on the other two stops due to the delays by WMATA and rising costs. The single +$1 million stop was completed in 3/2013.

The additional redesign to get to the $12.4 million design/estimate was in addition to and did not happen until after the single prototype was finished and any following the independent reviews (also cost in addition to).

And you realize that if that were not the case then it would just be even more costs to assign to the prototype right?


>
> > The later WMATA agreement was for the
> > *construction* of 3 prototype stations based on
> > that design.
>
> The design as finalized in 2011.


The point being the agreement with WMATA and the sole-source follow-on to HOK was for *construction* not design work. The design as finalized was the earlier design by HOK with only minor changes for compliance. WMATA did no design work under its contract. No contractors other than HOK did any designs prior to completion of the prototype under any other contract.

>
> > The $85K sole-source award referenced was for
> > services to be performed during *construction*
> > phase of the 3-prototype project as justified
> > based on its earlier design work.
>
> As stated earlier, it was for as-needed consulting
> service to Arlington County re prior work
> delivered to WMATA under a contract that no longer
> existed.

As noted above it was intended to support the *construction* phase of the project based on its design, not design work. From the SOW:

Quote

To insure successful project implementation, “HOK” will provide construction engineering services during the construction phase of the three prototype stops, which will include pre-bid and pre-construction meeting participation, shop drawing reviews, response to Requests for Information from the contractor, punch list inspections, and review of contractor-provided as-built drawings.

>
> > That all ended up as the single +$1 million
> prototype.
>
> That all led to construction of a single prototype
> which dirty rotten artisan scoundrels lied about,
> saying that it cost $1 million.

What is it about the fact that it did cost +$1 million that don't you understand?

>
> > There were no $20.8 or $12.4 million contracts.
>
>
> Sheesh!


Let's see your $20.8 or $12.4 million contract(s).

Take your time.

Driving on the toll road tonight from Reston towards Tysons and when I got past Wolf Trap a Metro train was coming the opposite side with its HIGH BEAMS on. It was clearly a distraction and really annoyed me even though I had the Dulles Airport lanes between my car and the Metro. That's an accident waiting to happen!

Actual SmarTrip.... Wrote:
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> Tuesday Fails, for the Fail King Wrote:
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> -----
> > The point in mentioning Bethesda is to point out
>
> > that it offers a far different clientele than
> > Gaithersburg...
>
> No, feeble one, you were simply confused as to the
> location, and in the sadly mistaken manner in
> which you seem to do virtually everything, you
> typed the wrong one.

Wrong, turd noggin. It is almost as if you are some mental midget Glenn Beck watcher and you need a white board to spell everything out for you.

You: Did you know that GAR is expanding to Gaithersburg in the Fall?
Me: Besides, it is Gaithersburg, not Bethesda.

If your little bitty brain cell needs confirmation for this exchange, just scroll on up.

A person even remotely familiar with this area and possessing the intellect of a pre-school child would understand why the comparison was made. Given that you are neither familiar with the area or capable of mastering the intellectual skills of a pre-school child, it is understandable why you didn't get it.

For starters, the median household income in Gaithersburg is about $81K while it is $141K in Bethesda. Beginning to see the difference?

I bet you have to get simple things explained to you quite a bit, eh?

> > ...and that if GAR offerings were improving,
> they'd
> > move to capture the upscale clientele of the
> Bethesda
> > instead of the folks in Gaithersburg.
>
> GAR has opened a number of restaurants. Each
> time, they've carefully studied all aspects of
> every candidate area. Bethesda obviously lost
> out. Many factors come into play here. The
> ability to obtain and develop property is one of
> them.

Or, they figured the good folks in Bethesda wouldn't be interested in a GAR while their less affluent neighbors to the north in Gaithersburg would line up for it. They did the same calculation I did way up there when I pointed out they weren't hitting the more affluent market of Bethesda. It only took you a few days to figure it out. Thanks.

> > And GAR will name that restaurant and each is
> different.
>
> Actually, there are three Sweetwaters and there
> will be three Coastal Flats once the one in
> Gaithersburg opens. Dumb shit!

See, now was it so hard to tell us which GAR was going in Gaithersburg? Do you make things so difficult because they come difficult to you? Don't bother answering, we all know the answer.

> > Blah, blah, blah, namedrop, sound important,
> blah,> blah, blah.
>
> Eat my dust, asshole. That's all you CAN do. The
> length and breath of my epicurean history dwarfs
> yours. Even if I drop dead tomorrow, you will
> never catch up.

Please. You wouldn't know the difference between eating a meal in a Michelin starred restaurant versus eating a meal out of a Michelin radial. I'll let you look up Michelin rated restaurants.

Next you'll tell us about what an accomplished "foodie" you are. LOL.


> Of course. And to think that vacuous LIES cannot
> be told by desperate ignorant asshole twits on
> the internet is also ridiculous.

I would never claim that. In fact, I would point to your posts as proof of the opposite.

> > Wrong. Wrong on so many levels. While rib eye
> > USUSALLY has very little to no gristle, its
> > presence indicates an inferior cut of meat that
> is
> > usually served by inferior restaurants - hence,
> my
> > disappointment. If the rib eye is not trimmed
> > from the bone properly, you will have gristle.
>
>
> Gristle is cooked cartilage. A rib-eye consists
> of the meat from three muscles and a bunch of fat.
> No cartilage at all.

Unless it is butchered poorly, which was the case at Sweetwater the last time I had it. You might not call it a rib eye as it contained cartilage (something it is not supposed to have), but Sweetwater did.

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> Take your time.

Rehashed rubbish and irrelevancies are not worth two seconds, but here's about forty-five. Regardless of perceptions or intentions in 2007, statements that designs were complete and that construction was about to proceed were each wrong by four freaking years. Designs were not completed until the first half of 2011 and construction did not start until the second half, being almost immediately halted over issues of incomplete permitting.

Work not related to construction of the prototype cannot be attributed to it, nor can any work that in fact carried over from that contact to the next.

The rest of your arguments now seem to hinge upon (cower behind) the pointless hair-splitting notion of difference between contracts authorized and actually let and signed. You may wish to haul your sorry ass over to www.DebateSemantics.com, the home of picayune poltroons.

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Go fuck yourself, turd-bot. You and your laughable invisible friends have gotten everything imaginable wrong here. Lies, lies, and more lies in absurd attempts to cover your badly beaten ass.

You're a simpleton downscale dumbfuck who has now disintegrated and fallen off the radar.

Actual SmarTrip.... Wrote:
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> Go fuck yourself, turd-bot. You and your
> laughable invisible friends have gotten everything
> imaginable wrong here. Lies, lies, and more lies
> in absurd attempts to cover your badly beaten ass.
>
>
> You're a simpleton downscale dumbfuck who has now
> disintegrated and fallen off the radar.


No need to get your panties in a wad after getting beaten so badly. It is difficult for your lies to stand up against facts and the truth. Your last attempt at deflection is a feeble one, just like your mind.

Actual SmarTrip.... Wrote:
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> MXhNH Wrote:
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> > Take your time.
>
> Rehashed rubbish and irrelevancies are not worth
> two seconds, but here's about forty-five.
> Regardless of perceptions or intentions in 2007,
> statements that designs were complete and that
> construction was about to proceed were each wrong
> by four freaking years. Designs were not
> completed until the first half of 2011 and
> construction did not start until the second half,
> being almost immediately halted over issues of
> incomplete permitting.

The relevance is that HOK was the firm responsible for the design. There was no other firm, as you claimed, which did any other substantial design work for the "Super Stop" project. The design which was created in 2006 was that carried forward to build other than minor revisions. Because the final build design did not receive required approvals by VDOT et. al. until 2010, HOK still did the design. The timing was not the issue. The timeline was given only to to detail who did what when. The issue was your claim otherwise and that HOK's work some how doesn't "count" simply because the contract ended.

The cost for HOK's design work was $396,340 + $85,000 + additional amounts beyond that which I also can dig out if you really want for a total design cost in the range of $500K (prior to necessary later revisions by Parsons). That cost is applicable to the total $+1 million cost of the prototype.

>
> Work not related to construction of the prototype
> cannot be attributed to it, nor can any work that
> in fact carried over from that contact to the
> next.
>

What? The cost for the design of the prototype can't be counted toward it? That's ridiculous.

Work carried over from one contract to another certainly can be counted toward the total cost of the project. Design work is routinely done under separate contract versus construction and other separable phases of projects. Even in the case that some initial design was significantly modified or not used at all, which is not the case here, that cost still would be applicable to the total final cost for the project. There was no substantial design work done other than by HOK until the Parsons revisions following completion of the prototype. Which is additive to the cost of the overall project. Which is +$1 million by the county's own accounting. Which actually understates the cost by any true accounting since it doesn't include all of the county's internal costs.


> The rest of your arguments now seem to hinge upon
> (cower behind) the pointless hair-splitting notion
> of difference between contracts authorized and
> actually let and signed. You may wish to haul
> your sorry ass over to www.DebateSemantics.com,
> the home of picayune poltroons.


There were no $20.8 or 12.4 million contracts authorized or otherwise for the work to be done under as you claimed. The work was done under HOK's contract(s) and the $1.7 million WMATA construction agreement for the 3-stop project.

You may want to head over to the county's site and read their own materials related to the project and associated costs.

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> > Go fuck yourself, turd-bot. You and your
> > laughable invisible friends have gotten
> everything
> > imaginable wrong here. Lies, lies, and more
> lies
> > in absurd attempts to cover your badly beaten
> ass.
> >
> >
> > You're a simpleton downscale dumbfuck who has
> now
> > disintegrated and fallen off the radar.
>
>
> No need to get your panties in a wad after getting
> beaten so badly. It is difficult for your lies to
> stand up against facts and the truth. Your last
> attempt at deflection is a feeble one, just like
> your mind.


^ is an idiot. Clearly one person here is aware of what happened, and the other relies on Sean Hannity and the Comstock Times to get his "news". You are never going to change this morons mind, and yes a lie is 1000 times hard to disprove, but its not like Arlington is going to stop being transit friendly. Fuck this guy. He probably lives in Prince William and wonders why his traffic is so bad. Live well knowing his life is shit, he's unmarried, and he's a douche.

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> > > Go fuck yourself, turd-bot. You and your
> > > laughable invisible friends have gotten
> > everything
> > > imaginable wrong here. Lies, lies, and more
> > lies
> > > in absurd attempts to cover your badly beaten
> > ass.
> > >
> > >
> > > You're a simpleton downscale dumbfuck who has
> > now
> > > disintegrated and fallen off the radar.
> >
> >
> > No need to get your panties in a wad after
> getting
> > beaten so badly. It is difficult for your lies
> to
> > stand up against facts and the truth. Your
> last
> > attempt at deflection is a feeble one, just
> like
> > your mind.
>
>
> ^ is an idiot. Clearly one person here is aware of
> what happened, and the other relies on Sean
> Hannity and the Comstock Times to get his "news".
> You are never going to change this morons mind,
> and yes a lie is 1000 times hard to disprove, but
> its not like Arlington is going to stop being
> transit friendly. Fuck this guy. He probably lives
> in Prince William and wonders why his traffic is
> so bad. Live well knowing his life is shit, he's
> unmarried, and he's a douche.


Married and live comfortably inside the beltway :)

You probably can't say the same.

As for Hannity, etc, I view them the same way I view Glenn Beck. You can see my opinion on that if you care to scroll on up. Not surprised a dimwit like you missed it and can't follow along.

SmartTrip's lies are actually easy to disprove. All you have to do is look at the documents provided by Arlington County. What's the matter? Too stupid to do that?





But hey, don't take my word for it, take the county's when it comes to what the super stop cost.

yall seriously need to get a room

probably both gay too perfect

SmarTrip proven wrong again.

While the program is not new to the county, Riddle says the Tysons area has seen an uptick in crime for 2014. It's something he attributes to the arrival of the Silver Line.

"Since we started operations on the Silver Line on July 26, we've seen a tremendous increase in calls for service as well as criminal arrests," Riddle says.


Read more: http://www.wtop.com/41/3750672/Undercover-officers-deployed-in-Tysons-Corner-to-curtail-uptick-in-crime#ixzz3KBhWMjd6

Somebody must have taken a pretty bad beating.

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Yup. SmarTrip sure did and continues to.

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From your previous post, I'm thinking that this "SmarTrip" was the one who inflicted all the butthurt. Re-opening a four-month old thread is an act of pure and mind-boggling desperation. You might as well just tattoo "BUTTHURT" across your forehead.

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> From your previous post, I'm thinking that this
> "SmarTrip" was the one who inflicted all the
> butthurt. Re-opening a four-month old thread is
> an act of pure and mind-boggling desperation. You
> might as well just tattoo "BUTTHURT" across your
> forehead.

Call it adding fuel to the fire. Proving him (you) wrong and seeing him (you) erupt us pure hilarity. His (your) asinine statements are roundly ridiculed by many.

Okay, I'm not trained to handle the sorts of problems you have. Have a nice, calm Thanksgiving.

The problem with the Silver Line is that it doesn't go through Vienna. No mattress stores you see.

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> problems you have. Have a nice, calm
> Thanksgiving.


You're not trained to go to the bathroom on your own.