That was crazy, wasn't it?

What will be the next big protest?

Most contrived 'movement' ever.

Can't believe people actually got suckered into that. lol

ITS OVER?
thought everybody just moved upwind cause I smelled so bad. Time to take this $101,233 that I panhandled and go invest in some stocks.
Anyone interested in purchasing a used tent?
Contrived? hell yell,I like contrived.

It gave thousands of baby boomers time to secretly move to a new city so when their loser, basement residing kids returned, they couldnt find them.

remax Wrote:
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> It gave thousands of baby boomers time to
> secretly move to a new city so when their loser,
> basement residing kids returned, they couldnt
> find them.

That's stupid.

remax Wrote:
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> It gave thousands of baby boomers time to
> secretly move to a new city so when their loser,
> basement residing kids returned, they couldnt
> find them.

dont complain. it gave loser realtors like you a job. how many trillions have we gone into fucking debt to bail out you fucking retarded agents?

Fairfax is a bailout forum. It's full of government, government contractors, suppliers, and other people who derive their income from the real taxpayers. It shouldn't comes as a surprise that there's anomosity toward protest movements that threaten the concentration of government largesse towards the above sectors as well as Wall Street, Big Agriculture, and Energy to mention the few.

You made that much? Fuck me, I whored out the wife and did not come nearly close.
Those stockbrokers are cheap bastards and the wife said they where so small and limp, she could not get off.
Bully,Bully, I say lets have occupy wall street, part deux
Fuck the tents,Its marriott this time

Occutard Wrote:
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> Most contrived 'movement' ever.
>
> Can't believe people actually got suckered into
> that. lol


Are you talking about Occupy or the Tea Party?

Zvee Wrote:
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> Occutard Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Most contrived 'movement' ever.
> >
> > Can't believe people actually got suckered into
> > that. lol
>
>
> Are you talking about Occupy or the Tea Party?


Occupy was a completely manufactured 'movement' created by Lasn and some other long-time social activists. Lasn himself admitted that it was just a "trojan horse." Then SEIU and the other unions got involved and it was even more bogus from there.

And, no, that's not some conspiracy theory, all you have to do is to go look at statements of the people involved in planning it themselves. Most of the standard media just did an absolutely terrible job of vetting all of that given in it wanting a left-side version of the Tea Party and presenting is as an 'organic' movement by some kids in the park.

If you didn't know that then, hey, sorry, you got played.

Adbusters and the many who participated got the inspiration from the Greek anti-austerity protests that were occurring at that time. They occurred within a couple of weeks of each other. Sorry to disappoint.

Since Obama ended the successful welfare to work program I imagine they all plan to go full time on the dole. Thanks to Obama no need to ever make an effort to work.

Greek student protests Wrote:
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> Adbusters and the many who participated got the
> inspiration from the Greek anti-austerity protests
> that were occurring at that time. They occurred
> within a couple of weeks of each other. Sorry to
> disappoint.


Nope. The "occupy" model was based on the Spanish Indignados who have been occupying public spaces in Spain for a long time. But that came later in the planning. The idea started in the Spring of 2011. From there other long-time activists like the NYGA and anarchist types like Graeber hopped on board to direct it.

One of the best single articles on the origin is here:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/11/28/111128fa_fact_schwartz?currentPage=1

Sorry to disappoint.

A nice highlight


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2046586/Occupy-Wall-Street-Shocking-photos-protester-defecating-POLICE-CAR.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Micah W. Wrote:
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> Zvee Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Occutard Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Most contrived 'movement' ever.
> > >
> > > Can't believe people actually got suckered
> into
> > > that. lol
> >
> >
> > Are you talking about Occupy or the Tea Party?
>
>
> Occupy was a completely manufactured 'movement'
> created by Lasn and some other long-time social
> activists. Lasn himself admitted that it was just
> a "trojan horse." Then SEIU and the other unions
> got involved and it was even more bogus from
> there.
>
> And, no, that's not some conspiracy theory, all
> you have to do is to go look at statements of the
> people involved in planning it themselves. Most
> of the standard media just did an absolutely
> terrible job of vetting all of that given in it
> wanting a left-side version of the Tea Party and
> presenting is as an 'organic' movement by some
> kids in the park.
>
> If you didn't know that then, hey, sorry, you got
> played.


I never said I was part of Occupy, so how can I have gotten played? My point was that the Tea Party was just as manufactured with sponsorship from Fox News, Dick Armey, the Koch brothers, and other "grass roots" sponsors. And they are about as irrelevant as Occupy now.

Heheh... I love listening to right-wingers call OWS "contrived".

These are the same idiots that jumped into the Tea Party, shouted about the difference they were going to make, and were promptly beaten back into line by the GOP. Most of them seem to stupid to notice that it happened, as long as they get a bit of lip service from time to time.

OWS is far from over. Consider it a warm-up for the civil unrest that's going to follow our next "2008 event". And yes, that's MUCH closer than most people realize.

Of course, I still haven't figured out why they decided to protest in front of people who are doing exactly what they're supposed to do. "Corporate Greed" isn't an epidemic, it's a core part of the system.

2concerned Wrote:
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> Heheh... I love listening to right-wingers call
> OWS "contrived".
>
> These are the same idiots that jumped into the Tea
> Party, shouted about the difference they were
> going to make, and were promptly beaten back into
> line by the GOP. Most of them seem to stupid to
> notice that it happened, as long as they get a bit
> of lip service from time to time.
>
> OWS is far from over. Consider it a warm-up for
> the civil unrest that's going to follow our next
> "2008 event". And yes, that's MUCH closer than
> most people realize.
>
> Of course, I still haven't figured out why they
> decided to protest in front of people who are
> doing exactly what they're supposed to do.
> "Corporate Greed" isn't an epidemic, it's a core
> part of the system.

Funny you call some idiots. Remember your rant? How was the hospital nut-case?

Well, if you find that my description fits you, then yes, you've proven yourself an idiot. Of course, I mean proven it to others -- I'm sure you won't get it.

Jumping tracks won't change that. Sorry.

You have to feel sorry for the people who got wrapped up in both movements -- particularly the organizers in the beginning.

I do remember the beginning of the Tea Party movement and the people who showed up initially were the genuine "grass roots" types who were upset and wanted to air their grievances. The Occupy people are from a different walk of life, but you know they believed in whatever they believed in (it was a whole bunch of stuff, but that was part of their problem).

Each group quickly got co-opted by the political parties and the media. The Republicans absorbed the Tea Party if only as a survival mechanism because of how shitty the world had become and people were upset with the party in power. The people who ended up funding and using the Tea Party weren't the ones who started it, but boy did they get a lot out of it while it lasted. The Republican Party now is much further to the right.

The Occupy people's demise was that they couldn't get their story straight. Its also difficult to be relevant with mainstream America when you live in a box on the street, shit in a bucket and don't bathe for weeks on end. The left backed away from the Occupy movement once it was seen as a public nuisance.

The final cause of death for Occupy was cold weather.

2concerned Wrote:
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> Heheh... I love listening to right-wingers call
> OWS "contrived".
>
> These are the same idiots that jumped into the Tea
> Party, shouted about the difference they were
> going to make, and were promptly beaten back into
> line by the GOP. Most of them seem to stupid to
> notice that it happened, as long as they get a bit
> of lip service from time to time.
>
> OWS is far from over. Consider it a warm-up for
> the civil unrest that's going to follow our next
> "2008 event". And yes, that's MUCH closer than
> most people realize.
>
> Of course, I still haven't figured out why they
> decided to protest in front of people who are
> doing exactly what they're supposed to do.
> "Corporate Greed" isn't an epidemic, it's a core
> part of the system.


Yep, you'll be a sucker for the same manipulation again. lol

Occupy was mistargeted from the beginning.

Why would Wall Street care? And what, exactly, did the protesters think that bankers and businessmen could or would change? I'm still scratching my head.

On the other hand, there's a city nestled on the Potomac, pretty far South of New York, were people actually ARE supposed to work toward the interests of the people, rather than that of stockholders. They seem to have missed that point, entirely.

I watched the original protests being organized... it was funny to see the votes for things like "what is our #1 demand?" It was pretty clear that a LOT of the people involved were simply angry and didn't have enough of an understanding to know who they should be angry at.

Unfortunately, it's a sentiment that wouldn't be unfamiliar to someone who lived in Germany between the two World Wars.

Occuturd: assume much?

I call the people on the far-right clueless, so I must be far-left, huh?

Yeah, some people can't handle a world that isn't black and white. It's folks like that - on both sides - who are easily manipulated.

2concerned Wrote:
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> Occuturd: assume much?
>
> I call the people on the far-right clueless, so I
> must be far-left, huh?
>
> Yeah, some people can't handle a world that isn't
> black and white. It's folks like that - on both
> sides - who are easily manipulated.

+1

Well said.

Ito Wrote:
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> You have to feel sorry for the people who got
> wrapped up in both movements -- particularly the
> organizers in the beginning.
>
> I do remember the beginning of the Tea Party
> movement and the people who showed up initially
> were the genuine "grass roots" types who were
> upset and wanted to air their grievances. The
> Occupy people are from a different walk of life,
> but you know they believed in whatever they
> believed in (it was a whole bunch of stuff, but
> that was part of their problem).
>
> Each group quickly got co-opted by the political
> parties and the media. The Republicans absorbed
> the Tea Party if only as a survival mechanism
> because of how shitty the world had become and
> people were upset with the party in power. The
> people who ended up funding and using the Tea
> Party weren't the ones who started it, but boy did
> they get a lot out of it while it lasted. The
> Republican Party now is much further to the
> right.
>
> The Occupy people's demise was that they couldn't
> get their story straight. Its also difficult to be
> relevant with mainstream America when you live in
> a box on the street, shit in a bucket and don't
> bathe for weeks on end. The left backed away from
> the Occupy movement once it was seen as a public
> nuisance.
>
> The final cause of death for Occupy was cold
> weather.


Agree. The 'Tea Party' or whatever you want to call it at the time that it started grew out of the health care debate and Santelli's rant and general dissatisfaction. But they were very quickly co-opted and things went downhill fast from there.

Occupy was a manufactured movement from the start. Lasn ran it just like a marketing campaign. There was no message because there never was a message. It was a protest looking for a reason and just served as a front for the same old activists who all wanted to push their same old causes from fair housing, to LGBT issues, to the anarchists, etc., etc. Graeber's consensus process nonsense encouraged that and to some degree purposely so. Once it became clear that it had turned into a clusterfuck and the key people bailed on it, then it was just a bunch of 'useful idiots' left hanging around and it was done.

2concerned Wrote:
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> Occuturd: assume much?
>
> I call the people on the far-right clueless, so I
> must be far-left, huh?
>
> Yeah, some people can't handle a world that isn't
> black and white. It's folks like that - on both
> sides - who are easily manipulated.


Get real.

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> Heheh... I love listening to right-wingers call
> OWS "contrived".
>

Assume much? I call Occupy contrived and that makes me a right-winger? Look in the mirror guy. lol

And you'd be wrong about that btw. I just don't like BS like that where people are manipulated regardless what side it comes from.

2concerned Wrote:
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> Occupy was mistargeted from the beginning.
>
> Why would Wall Street care? And what, exactly,
> did the protesters think that bankers and
> businessmen could or would change? I'm still
> scratching my head.
>
> On the other hand, there's a city nestled on the
> Potomac, pretty far South of New York, were people
> actually ARE supposed to work toward the interests
> of the people, rather than that of stockholders.
> They seem to have missed that point, entirely.
>
> I watched the original protests being organized...
> it was funny to see the votes for things like
> "what is our #1 demand?" It was pretty clear that
> a LOT of the people involved were simply angry and
> didn't have enough of an understanding to know who
> they should be angry at.
>
> Unfortunately, it's a sentiment that wouldn't be
> unfamiliar to someone who lived in Germany between
> the two World Wars.


Proof that even homosexual blind squirrels like 2concerned stumble onto the truth sometimes. Yes, the problem was DC (and the ridiculous and unjustifiable tution costs at both public and private colleges/universities), but DC is being run by democrats and the colleges are hotbeds of leftist propaganda. So OWS, which was ginned up by the left, couldn't attack their own bastions, so they were pointed at Wall Street. And Wall Street just laughed and said, "Who cares what a bunch of unwashed rabble think about anything". Too funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKEZoY-TMG4&list=FLKAdIS3zsMQ_4eOhN48F9Kw&index=5&feature=plpp_video

Some commodities traders and Wall Streeters coined the term when the Obama presented the economic stimulus in March of 2009. This was after Wall Street got their 750 billion dollar bailout. The Tea Party formed soon after that, but was coopted by the Republican PACs in early Spring of the 2010 congressional elections.

Lester Wrote:
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> Some commodities traders and Wall Streeters coined
> the term when the Obama presented the economic
> stimulus in March of 2009. This was after Wall
> Street got their 750 billion dollar bailout. The
> Tea Party formed soon after that, but was coopted
> by the Republican PACs in early Spring of the 2010
> congressional elections.


Considering the asskicking the democrats took in the midterms of aught 10, I'd say that worked out quite nicely for the Republican PACs. Adbusters, who launched OWS (and coined the term) is funded by a myriad of leftist commie groups, including the Soros front group Tides Foundation. In the end, it was a major fail. What was funny was watching Obama trying to figure out whether to jump in with them or just quietly support them through behind the scene policies (like letting them ruin McPherson Square and break tons of laws around the country with no consequences).

Ito Wrote:
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> You have to feel sorry for the people who got
> wrapped up in both movements -- particularly the
> organizers in the beginning.
>
> I do remember the beginning of the Tea Party
> movement and the people who showed up initially
> were the genuine "grass roots" types who were
> upset and wanted to air their grievances. The
> Occupy people are from a different walk of life,
> but you know they believed in whatever they
> believed in (it was a whole bunch of stuff, but
> that was part of their problem).
>
> Each group quickly got co-opted by the political
> parties and the media. The Republicans absorbed
> the Tea Party if only as a survival mechanism
> because of how shitty the world had become and
> people were upset with the party in power. The
> people who ended up funding and using the Tea
> Party weren't the ones who started it, but boy did
> they get a lot out of it while it lasted. The
> Republican Party now is much further to the
> right.
>
> The Occupy people's demise was that they couldn't
> get their story straight. Its also difficult to be
> relevant with mainstream America when you live in
> a box on the street, shit in a bucket and don't
> bathe for weeks on end. The left backed away from
> the Occupy movement once it was seen as a public
> nuisance.
>
> The final cause of death for Occupy was cold
> weather.

Early on they were mostly trust fund kids who didn't sleep in
a box. They were seen coming in and out of some of DC's finest
hotels and restaurants. They were such rookies at politics they
allowed themselves to be hijacked by anarchists and the
Trots. (Socialist Workers Party) Dumb thing to do but they weren't
the brights bulbs in the pack anyway. They never realized just
how fucking stupid they looked.

They're the only ones really doing something about WS corruption.


Occupy the SEC Urges the SEC to Investigate JP Morgan Over Likely (As in Bloomin’ Obvious) Sarbanes Oxley Violations #OWS

We’ve written at length how the Obama Administration claim that it couldn’t prosecute bank CEOs and senior executives because they didn’t do anything illegal is utter hogwash. Sarbanes Oxley, passed in the wake of Enron, was designed to prevent CEOs and other top executives from escaping liability by claiming they were clueless face men. And it provides for a clear path to criminal prosecutions.

But the way Sarbanes Oxley was defanged is by making it an exercise in form over substance. Public firms engage in compliance theater while the SEC sits on its hands as far as enforcement is concerned (Note that the SEC did fail on its lone effort to use Sarbox against a CEO in the case of Richard Schrusy and Healthsouth. But that case was tried before a jury in Birmingham, Alabama, and I will spare readers the long form account as to why you can’t generalize from these results). Both the MF Global collapse and the JP Morgan Chief Investment Office fiasco look like slam-dunk Sarbox cases, yet we’ve seen nary a sign of interest from the SEC.

Occupy the SEC has used House Financial Services Committee hearings this week on the tenth anniversary of the passage of Sarbanes Oxley to raise pointed questions as to why the SEC has not launched a probe of JP Morgan. I have a sneaking suspicion that this line of thinking won’t get any air time, and instead the Congresscritters will focus on how the nasty law inconveniences fine upstanding major corporations.

Read more at http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/07/occupy-the-sec-urges-the-sec-to-investigate-jp-morgan-over-likely-as-in-bloomin-obvious-sarbanes-oxley-violations-ows.html#2FZ3DdfQsjvyWVr5.99