I realize a lot of people in this area do not like Hillary or Obama, but with the primaries coming up, how many of you are sick of Obama?

change, change, change; I'm sick of the damn word, he always says it and doesn't say what he plans on changing. Then all these ignorant minorities look at him like a god, but are blinded by their bias. Then, his I didn't vote for the Iraq war thing is old too. Alot of people voted for it because they were mislead into thinking Iraq had WMDs, its not like he was smart enough to know he was being mislead. In fact, I think it raises red flags Obama didn't want to do anything, when are country was in danger. I would complain more, but thats pretty much all he says in every speech and debate, after not even serving a full term in senate, and his sketchy ways of getting money.

At least with Hillary you get experience, and someone who appears more honest. Its not about color of skin or being a woman, but minorities don't realize that and it may very well destroy America.

Are you serious?

relax Ed...if the country survives 8 years of George W. a few years of Obama wont hurt a thing.

Ed wrote:

> all these ignorant minorities look at him like a god

> but minorities don't realize that and it may very well destroy America

Thank you for enlightening us on your issues.

Git up on the flo' and git yo ass to movin'
We gonna bump oura rumps to the funk!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aiXLl7clwJE

Yes the minorities will screw our country. Let's remember it was ignorant rednecks that voted for bush not once but twice.

Frank (1) Wrote:
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> Yes the minorities will screw our country. Let's
> remember it was ignorant rednecks that voted for
> bush not once but twice.


Vince! Good nuf' to see you here again. I'za pla'in dis hear version jus' fo
you! http://youtube.com/watch?v=nwsUTuKoywU

Well minorities voted too, and Bush won. It wasn't just the rednecks,but America screwed up.
What Ed is trying to say though, is that minorities are jumping on his banwagon cause of his color, even though they're not taking the time to look at the other candidates and who will best lead the Democratic party, and come November this country. I'm with Ed, Obama is running a fairy tale campaign about change, and he doesn't even know what change he is talking about. He will not get anything done if he is elected, hes just not experienced enough for the job. That is why I Mark hereby back Hillary Clinton for President, please vote on Tuesday.

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> relax Ed...if the country survives 8 years of
> George W. a few years of Obama wont hurt a thing.


famous last words.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

A month ago the majority of African American supported Hillary Clinton. Today 9 out of 10 blacks vote for Obama. I wish African American pay more attention to issues.

My vote is for Clinton.

My vote is for O'Bama!

Finally some people are seeing what I've been thinking for a while now. Lets end this ridiculousness and have Hillary win Virginia. Polls say shes behind although they're meaningless, vote Hillary on Tuesday, and end this make believe soul train.

I agree too, this is the fakest campaign I've ever seen and America has bought it. Ofcourse Obama won all 3 states with primaries or caucuses today as well. it is up to us to save the country on Tuesday.

Obama, Clinton- no matter what it's a lose -lose situation for us (IMO of course).

After Travel-Gate, Whitewater, File-Gate, the Rose Law Firm Scandal, failed healthcare reform, Vince Foster, on, and on, and on...how the HELL could you be more sick of Obama than Hillary? Seriously???

Minorities dont vote.

Ed Wrote:
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> I realize a lot of people in this area do not like
> Hillary or Obama, but with the primaries coming
> up, how many of you are sick of Obama?
>
> change, change, change; I'm sick of the damn word,
> he always says it and doesn't say what he plans on
> changing. Then all these ignorant minorities look
> at him like a god, but are blinded by their bias.
> Then, his I didn't vote for the Iraq war thing is
> old too. Alot of people voted for it because they
> were mislead into thinking Iraq had WMDs, its not
> like he was smart enough to know he was being
> mislead. In fact, I think it raises red flags
> Obama didn't want to do anything, when are country
> was in danger. I would complain more, but thats
> pretty much all he says in every speech and
> debate, after not even serving a full term in
> senate, and his sketchy ways of getting money.
>
> At least with Hillary you get experience, and
> someone who appears more honest. Its not about
> color of skin or being a woman, but minorities
> don't realize that and it may very well destroy
> America.

Obama sounds like a preacher, preaching about hope in the next life, (or the next election). Hillary sounds like an angry mom giving a lecture to her kids. I'm sick of both of them. I don't want an angry mom in the White House or a preacher.

Mark Wrote:
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> Well minorities voted too, and Bush won. It
> wasn't just the rednecks,but America screwed up.
>
> What Ed is trying to say though, is that
> minorities are jumping on his banwagon cause of
> his color, even though they're not taking the time
> to look at the other candidates and who will best
> lead the Democratic party, and come November this
> country. I'm with Ed, Obama is running a fairy
> tale campaign about change, and he doesn't even
> know what change he is talking about. He will not
> get anything done if he is elected, hes just not
> experienced enough for the job. That is why I
> Mark hereby back Hillary Clinton for President,
> please vote on Tuesday.

Which minorities? Hispanics and Asians like Hillary. That's why she won California and will win Texas.

I VOTE OBAMA

Neen,

John McCain has the nomination sealed. If you are a republican ask yourself do you want the most liberal preacher or the centrist Clinton in the White House?

Virginia has a chance to stand out on Tuesday to say to the country Virginians have a brain.

Go out to vote.

Virginia for Hillary!


Neen Wrote:
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> Ed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I realize a lot of people in this area do not
> like
> > Hillary or Obama, but with the primaries coming
> > up, how many of you are sick of Obama?
> >
> > change, change, change; I'm sick of the damn
> word,
> > he always says it and doesn't say what he plans
> on
> > changing. Then all these ignorant minorities
> look
> > at him like a god, but are blinded by their
> bias.
> > Then, his I didn't vote for the Iraq war thing
> is
> > old too. Alot of people voted for it because
> they
> > were mislead into thinking Iraq had WMDs, its
> not
> > like he was smart enough to know he was being
> > mislead. In fact, I think it raises red flags
> > Obama didn't want to do anything, when are
> country
> > was in danger. I would complain more, but
> thats
> > pretty much all he says in every speech and
> > debate, after not even serving a full term in
> > senate, and his sketchy ways of getting money.
> >
> > At least with Hillary you get experience, and
> > someone who appears more honest. Its not about
> > color of skin or being a woman, but minorities
> > don't realize that and it may very well destroy
> > America.
>
> Obama sounds like a preacher, preaching about hope
> in the next life, (or the next election). Hillary
> sounds like an angry mom giving a lecture to her
> kids. I'm sick of both of them. I don't want an
> angry mom in the White House or a preacher.

TRY Wrote:
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> Obama, Clinton- no matter what it's a lose -lose
> situation for us (IMO of course).


_______________________________________________________________

Your opinion, is shared by me.

An empty suit, or the wife of Bill. No thanks, either way.

Ed Wrote:
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> Then, his I didn't vote for the Iraq war thing is
> old too. Alot of people voted for it because they
> were mislead into thinking Iraq had WMDs, its not
> like he was smart enough to know he was being
> mislead. In fact, I think it raises red flags
> Obama didn't want to do anything, when are country
> was in danger.

It raises red flags that Ed, who is typing that from Hillary's Northern Virginia headquarters, doesn't have a grasp on recent history. Obama didn't vote for the Iraq military action authorization because he WASN'T A SENATOR THEN. He has since voted for all the funding bills to support the war so chances are he really would have voted for it had he been in the senate.

And the race stuff I don't get... he's half white. He wouldn't be the first black president anyway, though he could be considered the first non-all-white president.

As I posted in another thread, I'm tired of Hillary tearing up whenever someone says something bad about her. She clearly thinks she is ready for the rigors of being the POTUS, but she can't handle jokes coming from MSNBC people and clearly isn't ready for the stresses of the office. Obama needs to headline the ticket.

First of all, I appreciate all of the Hillary Campaign staffers who have been posting on Fairfax Underground like you are actual residents of Virginia concerned about the election. I wonder if your IP addresses are even in this state (or if you are actually more than one person).

Second, I will tell you why people are turning on Hillary by using two similar statements made by Hillary and Obama...

Obama: "I intend to lead this country."

Hillary: "I look forward to leading you."

Do you Hillary supporters understand the difference? We are not a bunch of sheep put on this Earth to aggrandize Hillary. We've already had eight years of "King George." We don't need four or eight years of "Queen Hillary."

Have you watched MSNBC lately? Their coverage is entirely a kiss up to Obama. Most of the time they don't even bother covering republicans. Chris Matthew is the worst offender and now David Shuster the new low on news media.

If you have a daughter and someone use 'Pimped out' on her, you would think that's funny?? What kind of parent are you?


pgens Wrote:
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> Ed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Then, his I didn't vote for the Iraq war thing
> is
> > old too. Alot of people voted for it because
> they
> > were mislead into thinking Iraq had WMDs, its
> not
> > like he was smart enough to know he was being
> > mislead. In fact, I think it raises red flags
> > Obama didn't want to do anything, when are
> country
> > was in danger.
>
> It raises red flags that Ed, who is typing that
> from Hillary's Northern Virginia headquarters,
> doesn't have a grasp on recent history. Obama
> didn't vote for the Iraq military action
> authorization because he WASN'T A SENATOR THEN.
> He has since voted for all the funding bills to
> support the war so chances are he really would
> have voted for it had he been in the senate.
>
> And the race stuff I don't get... he's half white.
> He wouldn't be the first black president anyway,
> though he could be considered the first
> non-all-white president.
>
> As I posted in another thread, I'm tired of
> Hillary tearing up whenever someone says something
> bad about her. She clearly thinks she is ready
> for the rigors of being the POTUS, but she can't
> handle jokes coming from MSNBC people and clearly
> isn't ready for the stresses of the office. Obama
> needs to headline the ticket.

I am a FFX county resident and my vote goes to Hillary.

Say no to empty rhetoric on Tuesday!


WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> First of all, I appreciate all of the Hillary
> Campaign staffers who have been posting on Fairfax
> Underground like you are actual residents of
> Virginia concerned about the election. I wonder if
> your IP addresses are even in this state (or if
> you are actually more than one person).
>
> Second, I will tell you why people are turning on
> Hillary by using two similar statements made by
> Hillary and Obama...
>
> Obama: "I intend to lead this country."
>
> Hillary: "I look forward to leading you."
>
> Do you Hillary supporters understand the
> difference? We are not a bunch of sheep put on
> this Earth to aggrandize Hillary. We've already
> had eight years of "King George." We don't need
> four or eight years of "Queen Hillary."

Wow if that statement really has a impact on your vote.... wow

id put my money that neither of them will actually become president so it's a moot point. we all know the president is going to be some old white guy. i think it's going to be John McCain. im not being racist or sexist, im just pointing out that all of the former presidents have been old white guys.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Well the ignorant preacher needs to stop slamming Hillary for voting for the war, cause obviouslly the majority did. Again whether in enate or not, his two phrases are "I did not vote for the War in Iraq," and "We want change"

Go Hillary!

Okay Virginia for Hillary (aka Ed, Mark, dhfg, Chantilly Boy and Steve K), the fact that you are a Hillary staffer pretending to be other people supporting Hillary is another example of why I won't be voting for Hillary (in addition to the Southern Strategy Bill Clinton employed in South Carolina, Hillary's fake crying,etc).

As for "empty rhetoric," I'll take that over Hillary's bad policies any day (freezing interest rates for five years, garnishing people's wages for health insurance whether they want it or not). Hillary would be a disaster as President.

Regarding Dave Shuster saying the Clintons were "pimping out" Chelsea, while the comment was stupid and unfortunate, the fact is the Clintons are over-playing the victim card. Obama would have simply said, "That is extremely unfortunate" and let the American public tell MSNBC what they thought of it. The Clintons are acting like it is worse than the impeachment.

Full legal name.


Barack Hussein Obama

90% of African American voted for your man. I think that Southern Strategy has worked well for him. Do you want to bet the percentage of African American will vote for him in Virginia? Do you honestly think he will have any fighting chance in Virginia if African American would vote for issues rather than skin color?

You kept saying you will vote against Hillary but offer no substance why you vote for Obama. Obama doesn't have a clue of mortgage crisis has huge impact on the economy and your house values too. Obama thinks it's OK for people with no insurance showing up at the emergency room and every one else pay the bill. How American is that?




WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> Okay Virginia for Hillary (aka Ed, Mark, dhfg,
> Chantilly Boy and Steve K), the fact that you are
> a Hillary staffer pretending to be other people
> supporting Hillary is another example of why I
> won't be voting for Hillary (in addition to the
> Southern Strategy Bill Clinton employed in South
> Carolina, Hillary's fake crying,etc).
>
> As for "empty rhetoric," I'll take that over
> Hillary's bad policies any day (freezing interest
> rates for five years, garnishing people's wages
> for health insurance whether they want it or not).
> Hillary would be a disaster as President.

I ain't no Hillary staffer you idiot, if you ever come on this site you'd see I'm one of the most common posters, you'll probably see me on every Redskins post. Thats a typical Obama tactic, make something up or say something unproven to make someone else look bad. That Obama-house scandal in Chicago, which he still hasn't addressed either is sketchy.

dhfg Wrote:
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> If you have a daughter and someone use 'Pimped
> out' on her, you would think that's funny?? What
> kind of parent are you?

The kind of parent that knows when an islamic figure threatens the country with a negative name for women, the proper reaction isn't to start to cry over name calling... the proper action is to look past the pain of name calling to make decisions on how to protect our people and buildings. If Hillary sends a staff member out to write letters asking that some islamic figure who called her a "nonbelieving whore" be suspended it doesn't do my kids any good.

This isn't a "wouldn't that sadden you as a parent" question... it is a "what is the proper reaction for someone who wants to be president of the United States" question. Go back to the campaign headquarters and think that one out.

A president is someone who is (at peast publicly) immune to name-calling. Here she says she is the best democratic candidate because she has already been battle-tested with attacks, and what is she doing when someone uses the word "pimp"? Literally crying on television.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/10/2008 10:20AM by pgens.

pgens Wrote:
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> dhfg Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If you have a daughter and someone use 'Pimped
> > out' on her, you would think that's funny??
> What
> > kind of parent are you?
>
> The kind of parent that knows when an islamic
> figure threatens the country with a negative name
> for women, the proper reaction isn't to start to
> cry over name calling... the proper action is to
> look past the pain of name calling to make
> decisions on how to protect our people and
> buildings. If Hillary sends a staff member out to
> write letters asking that some islamic figure who
> called her a "nonbelieving whore" be suspended it
> doesn't do my kids any good.
>
> This isn't a "wouldn't that sadden you as a
> parent" question... it is a "what is the proper
> reaction for someone who wants to be president of
> the United States" question. Go back to the
> campaign headquarters and think that one out.
>
> A president is someone who is (at peast publicly)
> immune to name-calling. Here she says she is the
> best democratic candidate because she has already
> been battle-tested with attacks, and what is she
> doing when someone uses the word "pimp"?
> Literally crying on television.



You obviously do not have a daughter and are speaking on bias. Hillary '08

I think this says it all.
Attachments:

Hussein Wrote:
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> Full legal name.
>
>
> Barack Hussein Obama


I learn so much from the internets!

WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> After Travel-Gate, Whitewater, File-Gate, the Rose
> Law Firm Scandal, failed healthcare reform, Vince
> Foster, on, and on, and on...how the HELL could
> you be more sick of Obama than Hillary?
> Seriously???

Yeah Hillary is certainly battle tested. Republicans are praying that she will be the forerunner and win the bid, then Repulicans can crush her like an ant.

Hussein Wrote:
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> Full legal name.
>
>
> Barack Hussein Obama


Hillary's name? Hillary Rodham-Clinton (a femi-nazi). Let's not vote for her, then, right?

Steve K Wrote:
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> I ain't no Hillary staffer you idiot, if you ever
> come on this site you'd see I'm one of the most
> common posters, you'll probably see me on every
> Redskins post. Thats a typical Obama tactic, make
> something up or say something unproven to make
> someone else look bad. That Obama-house scandal
> in Chicago, which he still hasn't addressed either
> is sketchy.


He addressed the house scandal. He paid market price for land next to his house to build on. There is no scandal. At least, nothing on the scale of the myriad of scandals the Clintons have been involved in (Hillary still hasn't answered how she made so much money on commodities in such a short amount of time, or where those Rose Law Firm files were for so many years only to mysteriously show up at the White House on a table.)

Christine Wrote:
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> You obviously do not have a daughter and are
> speaking on bias. Hillary '08


I'm not sure who is scarier... right-wing evangelists voting for republicans only because they are generally Christian, or women who will only vote for a woman president because she cries over name-calling.

The blind followers of Obama showed their true color when they defend the despicable "pimped out" comment made to Chelsea Clinton by MSNBC, the Obama news network. I would have less respect to Senator Clinton if she hadn't come out defending her daughter.

Let me refresh your memory about Obama's response to an Islamic attack during the first debate. He said he would call the ambulances and fire trucks. Senator Clinton responded that she would find out who did it and retaliated forcefully.


pgens Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> dhfg Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If you have a daughter and someone use 'Pimped
> > out' on her, you would think that's funny??
> What
> > kind of parent are you?
>
> The kind of parent that knows when an islamic
> figure threatens the country with a negative name
> for women, the proper reaction isn't to start to
> cry over name calling... the proper action is to
> look past the pain of name calling to make
> decisions on how to protect our people and
> buildings. If Hillary sends a staff member out to
> write letters asking that some islamic figure who
> called her a "nonbelieving whore" be suspended it
> doesn't do my kids any good.
>
> This isn't a "wouldn't that sadden you as a
> parent" question... it is a "what is the proper
> reaction for someone who wants to be president of
> the United States" question. Go back to the
> campaign headquarters and think that one out.
>
> A president is someone who is (at peast publicly)
> immune to name-calling. Here she says she is the
> best democratic candidate because she has already
> been battle-tested with attacks, and what is she
> doing when someone uses the word "pimp"?
> Literally crying on television.

Virginia for Hillary Wrote:
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> 90% of African American voted for your man. I
> think that Southern Strategy has worked well for
> him. Do you want to bet the percentage of African
> American will vote for him in Virginia? Do you
> honestly think he will have any fighting chance in
> Virginia if African American would vote for issues
> rather than skin color?
>

So basically you are saying African-Americans are too stupid to understand the issues? What a racist statement. I imagine that is a sentiment within the Clinton Campaign as well. Thanks for letting us know what you are made of.

> You kept saying you will vote against Hillary but
> offer no substance why you vote for Obama. Obama
> doesn't have a clue of mortgage crisis has huge
> impact on the economy and your house values too.
> Obama thinks it's OK for people with no insurance
> showing up at the emergency room and every one
> else pay the bill. How American is that?
>
>
>
Obama understands that you can't fix the mortgage crisis by artificially pegging interest rates. Anybody who has a basic understanding of economics knows that this will create scarcity in the mortgage market so fewer people will be able to get loans. It will also hurt the already ailing dollar and tie the hands of the Fed when it comes to dealing with inflation. Frankly, I would rather stay with the status quo and get this junk debt out of the system through market forces than to delay it for five years with artificially low interest rates.

As for health insurance, Obama has a very realistic plan to offer subsidized health insurance to any American who wants it. As someone who struggled with insurance a few years ago, this makes a heck of a lot more sense than Hillary's plan, which is to add another Medicare Part D-type entitlement program to our already ballooning deficit (oh, and garnishing people's wages like they have done something wrong). Insane.

dhfg Wrote:
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> The blind followers of Obama showed their true
> color when they defend the despicable "pimped out"
> comment made to Chelsea Clinton by MSNBC, the
> Obama news network. I would have less respect to
> Senator Clinton if she hadn't come out defending
> her daughter.
>

I don't think anyone is defending MSNBC. I am just pointing out that the Clintons are over-playing it in an effort to gain political advantage. The statement stands on its own, the Clintons don't need to beat it to death.

> Let me refresh your memory about Obama's response
> to an Islamic attack during the first debate. He
> said he would call the ambulances and fire trucks.
> Senator Clinton responded that she would find out
> who did it and retaliated forcefully.
>
>
You mean the way Bill Clinton retaliated forcefully to the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole? (By doing nothing).

dgh wrote:
"Senator Clinton responded that she would find out who did it and retaliated forcefully."



But Hillary doesn't support the war? How confusing, oh wait, that's right were talking "Hillary Flip-Flop."

One minute she's for the war, the next she against it. So now she's back supporting the war. I get it now.

A short month ago, the majority of blacks supported Clinton. Political winds shifted and 90% African American overwhelmingly support Obama. Any policy/issue changed in this short month? No. They voted because for the first time An African American has a good chance of getting elected to be the President. That's perfectly OK. Don't tell me their vote were based on issues. This is typical Obama followers' tactic. Any dissenting view is labeled being a racist.

Senator Clinton didn't propose freezing all interest rate. Your mortgage and my mortgage is fine. She is targeting the struggling homeowners. It makes economics sense to reduce the number of foreclosures not just for the people affected but for everyone else in this economy.

It is realistic for most other industrial countries to have health care for everyone but not for the wealthiest nation on earth. Obama thinks it's OK for you and me pay for the emergency care for those people who don't have insurance. Frankly Obama's proposal is a politically calculated move. He knows this is a very difficult and challenging issue, so he ducked it and played favors to republicans.



WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> Virginia for Hillary Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 90% of African American voted for your man. I
> > think that Southern Strategy has worked well
> for
> > him. Do you want to bet the percentage of
> African
> > American will vote for him in Virginia? Do you
> > honestly think he will have any fighting chance
> in
> > Virginia if African American would vote for
> issues
> > rather than skin color?
> >
>
> So basically you are saying African-Americans are
> too stupid to understand the issues? What a racist
> statement. I imagine that is a sentiment within
> the Clinton Campaign as well. Thanks for letting
> us know what you are made of.
>
> > You kept saying you will vote against Hillary
> but
> > offer no substance why you vote for Obama.
> Obama
> > doesn't have a clue of mortgage crisis has huge
> > impact on the economy and your house values
> too.
> > Obama thinks it's OK for people with no
> insurance
> > showing up at the emergency room and every one
> > else pay the bill. How American is that?
> >
> >
> >
> Obama understands that you can't fix the mortgage
> crisis by artificially pegging interest rates.
> Anybody who has a basic understanding of economics
> knows that this will create scarcity in the
> mortgage market so fewer people will be able to
> get loans. It will also hurt the already ailing
> dollar and tie the hands of the Fed when it comes
> to dealing with inflation. Frankly, I would rather
> stay with the status quo and get this junk debt
> out of the system through market forces than to
> delay it for five years with artificially low
> interest rates.
>
> As for health insurance, Obama has a very
> realistic plan to offer subsidized health
> insurance to any American who wants it. As someone
> who struggled with insurance a few years ago, this
> makes a heck of a lot more sense than Hillary's
> plan, which is to add another Medicare Part D-type
> entitlement program to our already ballooning
> deficit (oh, and garnishing people's wages like
> they have done something wrong). Insane.

Let's talk about the biggest flip flop (and most disasterous) in the history of

The rational vor invading or I raq. Fist we get hammered over and again

* Weapons of Mass Destruction
* Links to terrorist

Then when determined there were no WMDs and no links to Al Queda, he changed his mind to

* liberating the Iraqi people from a brutal dictator
* fighting terrorists in Iraq not at home;
* spreading democracy throughout the Middle East.


Now it's a safer America and a safer world.

That is some major flip flopping!

Maybe this will comfort all of you....



By Perry Bacon Jr.Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, November 29, 2007; Page A01

"The day I'm inaugurated, I think this country looks at itself differently, but the world also looks at America differently," he told another Iowa crowd. "Because I've got a grandmother who lives in a little village in Africa without running water or electricity; because I grew up for part of my formative years in Southeast Asia in the largest Muslim country on Earth."

Tying the hands of banks won't stop the foreclosures either.

The reason we have the sub-prime meltdown is because there was widespread fraud in the mortgage industry and a lack of responsibility on the part of many borrowers. Fixed interest rates won't fix anything. The only way to resolve this is to let the inventory work its way through the system. Anything else will only delay the inevitable and make the housing slump last longer.

Hussein Wrote:
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> Maybe this will comfort all of you....
>
>
__________________________________________________

No, it does not. In fact, it worries me.

The MTV generation may be duped into looking past all this, not me.

Next...

Let me put it another way. If you make $50K a year and have a zero-down ARM on a $400K house, you simply don't qualify for that house. Switching from an 8% ARM to a 5.5% fixed rate mortgage isn't going to change that. You cannot afford that house and you will lose it. Fixing interest rates or lowering them isn't going to change that reality.

Here is a bit more to add to your comfort.....



By Sandra O'Malley | February 11, 2007
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21207598-29277,00.html

PRIME Minister John Howard has launched a broadside against US presidential hopeful Barack Hussein Obama, warning his victory could destroy Iraq and prospects for peace in the Middle East.

"If I was running al-Qaeda in Iraq, I would put a circle around March 2008, and pray, as many times as possible, for a victory not only for Obama, but also for the Democrats."

NoDems Wrote:
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> Here is a bit more to add to your comfort.....
>
>
>
> By Sandra O'Malley | February 11, 2007
> http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867
> ,21207598-29277,00.html
>
> PRIME Minister John Howard has launched a
> broadside against US presidential hopeful Barack
> Hussein Obama, warning his victory could destroy
> Iraq and prospects for peace in the Middle East.
>
> "If I was running al-Qaeda in Iraq, I would put a
> circle around March 2008, and pray, as many times
> as possible, for a victory not only for Obama, but
> also for the Democrats."


John Howard lost re-election in Australia. Maybe he should have been more concerned about his own candidacy.

WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> Let me put it another way. If you make $50K a year
> and have a zero-down ARM on a $400K house, you
> simply don't qualify for that house. Switching
> from an 8% ARM to a 5.5% fixed rate mortgage isn't
> going to change that. You cannot afford that house
> and you will lose it. Fixing interest rates or
> lowering them isn't going to change that reality.


__________________________________________________________

This is very true!

But please, do not insert logic into this thread, dems hate the truth.

ffxn8v Wrote:
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> Hussein Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Maybe this will comfort all of you....
> >
> >
> __________________________________________________
>
>
> No, it does not. In fact, it worries me.
>
> The MTV generation may be duped into looking past
> all this, not me.
>
> Next...

Obama's father left when he was two. He was raised by white Christians from Kansas.There was no Al Qaeda when he was growing up. Get a clue.

I never said anything about what you seem to imply.

I have concerns about where his heart may be and how that would translate to his national policy(s).

The MTV generation for the most part, are sheep that follow who they "like" and not who is best fit to run this country.

ffxn8v Wrote:
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> I never said anything about what you seem to
> imply.
>
> I have concerns about where his heart may be and
> how that would translate to his national
> policy(s).
>
> The MTV generation for the most part, are sheep
> that follow who they "like" and not who is best
> fit to run this country.


Who is the "best fit?" John McCain with his ridiculous immigration plan and 100 years war in Iraq? Or Hillary Clinton with her "wage garnishing" healthcare plan?

WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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>
> Who is the "best fit?" John McCain with his
> ridiculous immigration plan and 100 years war in
> Iraq? Or Hillary Clinton with her "wage
> garnishing" healthcare plan?


______________________________________________________

Certainly not Senator Clinton and her ideas.

Senator Clinton's plan is targeting people who can pay the current rate but would have difficulty in the higher rate due to rise. You need to get your facts straight.

Obama the more liberal Senator than Ted Kennedy will implement the massive social engineering you have never seen in your life time.


WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> Let me put it another way. If you make $50K a year
> and have a zero-down ARM on a $400K house, you
> simply don't qualify for that house. Switching
> from an 8% ARM to a 5.5% fixed rate mortgage isn't
> going to change that. You cannot afford that house
> and you will lose it. Fixing interest rates or
> lowering them isn't going to change that reality.

This makes a perfect Valentines Day gift!

http://hillarynutcracker.com/completelynuts.html

Fuck it. Let's put Jeb Bush in the whitehouse. Need the Bush trifecta

Ed Wrote:
> At least with Hillary you get experience, and
> someone who appears more honest. Its not about
> color of skin or being a woman, but minorities
> don't realize that and it may very well destroy
> America.


What experiance does Hillary have? When she got elected to Congress her only experiance was sharing a bed with the President. Then the people of New York were dumb enough to elect her so now she has a few years in politics. Don't think that gives her anymore experiance to run the country than Obama.

And as far as being honest, Bill wasn't the only one who had scandals in the White house, Look at the investigation that Hillary was involved in and bought her way out of. And as long as we are speaking of honety, How many things did she try to steal from the White House when they left that she was made to give back? I think the only reason that she wants to go back is so she can try to resteal the things she stole the first time.

Richard Wrote:
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> Ed Wrote:
> > At least with Hillary you get experience, and
> > someone who appears more honest. Its not about
> > color of skin or being a woman, but minorities
> > don't realize that and it may very well destroy
> > America.
>
>
> What experiance does Hillary have? When she got
> elected to Congress her only experiance was
> sharing a bed with the President. Then the people
> of New York were dumb enough to elect her so now
> she has a few years in politics. Don't think that
> gives her anymore experiance to run the country
> than Obama.
>
> And as far as being honest, Bill wasn't the only
> one who had scandals in the White house, Look at
> the investigation that Hillary was involved in and
> bought her way out of. And as long as we are
> speaking of honety, How many things did she try to
> steal from the White House when they left that she
> was made to give back? I think the only reason
> that she wants to go back is so she can try to
> resteal the things she stole the first time.

Well being first lady is experience, you learn alot about politics through that. And being a terrific senator who the state of New York loved, and serving out her FULL term, I say their is a lot more experience there.
And based on your bed comments, that is why this country is in trouble. people have no idea what they are voting for, and have no idea of the issues. Do us all a favor and don't vote you iggnorant piece of shit.

Virginia for Hillary Wrote:
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> Senator Clinton's plan is targeting people who can
> pay the current rate but would have difficulty in
> the higher rate due to rise.

So, what, 10 people? Big f-ing whoop-di-doo.

Hillary needs to quit BS-ing the American people with promises she can't deliver on.

pgens Wrote:
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> Christine Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You obviously do not have a daughter and are
> > speaking on bias. Hillary '08
>
>
> I'm not sure who is scarier... right-wing
> evangelists voting for republicans only because
> they are generally Christian, or women who will
> only vote for a woman president because she cries
> over name-calling.

Our school librarian for six months, Laura Bush, has stated clearly she will only vote for a woman if the woman was Republican (at least she didn't threaten to commit vehicular manslaughter on a Democratic woman). So, issues and charector don't matter to her, only party....That's one dumb fat bottomed bitch.

And her bottom is the size of the Astrodome for God's sake!

Hillary 2008 Wrote:
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How many things did she try
> to
> > steal from the White House when they left that
> she
> > was made to give back? I think the only reason
> > that she wants to go back is so she can try to
> > resteal the things she stole the first time.
>

There is a Government agency called the GAO and it is chaired by a guy named Walker. The GAO looked into reports of vandalism and stealing the W off computer keyboards etc and found very little to back this up. In fact, the GAO, whose opinion is the only opinion that matters, found the condition of the White House and offices "..consistent with what we would expect to encounter when tenants vacate office space after an extended occupancy."

And while a President Elect and a President may accept gifts, they all do, after the President is sworn in, gifts have to be disclosed and either used or turned over to the government, or sent to the presidential library.

Some gifts the Clinton's accepted, a game table being the main one, were accepted before he took he office. When it became a national story, the table was returned to the proper authorities by the Clinton's just to be on the safe side.

The accusations made turned out to be a big nothing. The GAO report set these rumors to rest.

So Hillary just kicked her campaign manager to the curb. Probably because she is instructing staffers to come on sites like this and make racially driven remarks about Barack Obama. Shame on the Hillary campaign for its racist tactics.

The shame of it all is that the majority of Obama supporters are either too young or too stupid to realize that the ability to make a rousing speech does not qualify him to be president. He might make a good preacher or a street corner evangilist but less than a full term in the Senate does not qualify him for the office of president.

You are really stupid to think Hillary staff has time posting on a thread that gets 200 clicks a day.

Obama campaign is the one playing the race card. Shaneless!

WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> So Hillary just kicked her campaign manager to the
> curb. Probably because she is instructing staffers
> to come on sites like this and make racially
> driven remarks about Barack Obama. Shame on the
> Hillary campaign for its racist tactics.

Virginia for Hillary Wrote:
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> You are really stupid to think Hillary staff has
> time posting on a thread that gets 200 clicks a
> day.
>
>

I am familiar with how Social Media Campaigns work. You are part of a virtual boiler-room operation making the rounds on hundreds of blogs and message boards in Virginia, DC and Maryland ahead of Tuesday's vote. You are pretending to be someone you are not to help sway public opinion. You are a fraud, paid by the Clinton campaign (you are most likely a college student doing this in your spare time).

Yeah right ... You are confused with your own Obama media operation, the only one you are familar with. No wonder we get so many garbage post online from Obama cult followers, our failed public school system products who can't think themselves, can't get real jobs but can only get paid by Obama putting out lies.

WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> Virginia for Hillary Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You are really stupid to think Hillary staff
> has
> > time posting on a thread that gets 200 clicks a
> > day.
> >
> >
>
> I am familiar with how Social Media Campaigns
> work. You are part of a virtual boiler-room
> operation making the rounds on hundreds of blogs
> and message boards in Virginia, DC and Maryland
> ahead of Tuesday's vote. You are pretending to be
> someone you are not to help sway public opinion.
> You are a fraud, paid by the Clinton campaign (you
> are most likely a college student doing this in
> your spare time).

Virgnina for Hillary Wrote:
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> Yeah right ... You are confused with your own
> Obama media operation, the only one you are
> familar with. No wonder we get so many garbage
> post online from Obama cult followers, our failed
> public school system products who can't think
> themselves, can't get real jobs but can only get
> paid by Obama putting out lies.
>
>

As any regular on this site can tell you, I have been posting here for about two years. You, on the other hand and as far as I can tell, have never posted here before this weekend. But now as the Clinton campaign is focusing on Virginia, you and several similar "posters" nobody has ever seen before are leaving pro-Hillary messages and bashing Obama on issues such as his race and religion. Is that timing a coincidence? I think not.

Anyway, I am 100% sure you won't be posting here after Tuesday. You will be busy working on forums and blogs in Texas and Ohio. I would wish you good luck, but Hillary is done, so it doesn't really matter.

This is an anonymous site. How do you know I have never posted here before? You have posted here for two years. So what? That makes you smarter than anybody else? You are a mindless troll, typical Obama follower.

Hillary takes decisive action when situations arise. She is a winner. February will be the last month for Obama. He will be rejected by Ohio, Texas and Pennsylvania when he runs out of African Americans and Latte liberals.

I will vote Hillary on Tuesday!


WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> Virgnina for Hillary Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yeah right ... You are confused with your own
> > Obama media operation, the only one you are
> > familar with. No wonder we get so many garbage
> > post online from Obama cult followers, our
> failed
> > public school system products who can't think
> > themselves, can't get real jobs but can only
> get
> > paid by Obama putting out lies.
> >
> >
>
> As any regular on this site can tell you, I have
> been posting here for about two years. You, on the
> other hand and as far as I can tell, have never
> posted here before this weekend. But now as the
> Clinton campaign is focusing on Virginia, you and
> several similar "posters" nobody has ever seen
> before are leaving pro-Hillary messages and
> bashing Obama on issues such as his race and
> religion. Is that timing a coincidence? I think
> not.
>
> Anyway, I am 100% sure you won't be posting here
> after Tuesday. You will be busy working on forums
> and blogs in Texas and Ohio. I would wish you good
> luck, but Hillary is done, so it doesn't really
> matter.

Virginia for Hillary Wrote:
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>
> Hillary takes decisive action when situations
> arise.

Left her cheating husband? Nope.

Supported the war in Iraq 100% until the day Obama announced he was running for President, then she turned 180 degrees (sounds pretty damn indecisive to me).

She failed at health care reform.

She had to move to New York state to run for Senate because she knew she wouldn't win in her "home states" of Arkansas and Illinois.

Hillary is going to lose.

Oh, and Obama is now leading over Hillary with white men and second generation Latinos, so Texas and Ohio shouldn't be a problem.

WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> Virginia for Hillary Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Hillary takes decisive action when situations
> > arise.
>
> Left her cheating husband? Nope.

She honored her marriage vows "For Better and For Worse". She is a strong woman with faith.


> Supported the war in Iraq 100% until the day Obama
> announced he was running for President, then she
> turned 180 degrees (sounds pretty damn indecisive
> to me).

Obama has the exact same voting records on the war as Senator Clinton since he joined the senate. Your anti war champion said in 2004 he was not sure how he would have voted in 2002 and his position was basically the same as George Bush's.


> She failed at health care reform.

Anybody else succeeded? She tried and gained valuable experience .



> She had to move to New York state to run for
> Senate because she knew she wouldn't win in her
> "home states" of Arkansas and Illinois.

The democrats in New York asked her to run. You think Obama would get elected to the Senate in the red states he has been carrying in the primary, north Dakota, Georgia, Alabama ...


>
> Hillary is going to lose.

Get used to say President Clinton again.


> Oh, and Obama is now leading over Hillary with
> white men and second generation Latinos, so Texas
> and Ohio shouldn't be a problem.

In LA last night Obama carried 20% of the Whites. In the primaries held so far, Latinos favored Hillary 3 to 1.


Virginia has an opportunity to stand out. Let's go out and make it happen.

Virginia for Hillary Wrote:
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> WashingToneLocian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Virginia for Hillary Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > >
> > > Hillary takes decisive action when situations
> > > arise.
> >
> > Left her cheating husband? Nope.
>
> She honored her marriage vows "For Better and For
> Worse". She is a strong woman with faith.
>
>
> > Supported the war in Iraq 100% until the day
> Obama
> > announced he was running for President, then
> she
> > turned 180 degrees (sounds pretty damn
> indecisive
> > to me).
>
> Obama has the exact same voting records on the war
> as Senator Clinton since he joined the senate.
> Your anti war champion said in 2004 he was not
> sure how he would have voted in 2002 and his
> position was basically the same as George Bush's.
>
>
> > She failed at health care reform.
>
> Anybody else succeeded? She tried and gained
> valuable experience .
>
>
>
> > She had to move to New York state to run for
> > Senate because she knew she wouldn't win in her
> > "home states" of Arkansas and Illinois.
>
> The democrats in New York asked her to run. You
> think Obama would get elected to the Senate in the
> red states he has been carrying in the primary,
> north Dakota, Georgia, Alabama ...
>
>
> >
> > Hillary is going to lose.
>
> Get used to say President Clinton again.
>
>
> > Oh, and Obama is now leading over Hillary with
> > white men and second generation Latinos, so
> Texas
> > and Ohio shouldn't be a problem.
>
> In LA last night Obama carried 20% of the Whites.
> In the primaries held so far, Latinos favored
> Hillary 3 to 1.
>
>
> Virginia has an opportunity to stand out. Let's go
> out and make it happen.




You're stupid.

More comforting background...Happy voting!

Barack Hussein Obama, born 1961, Hawaii, to Barack Obama, Sr. (born in Nyanza Province, Kenya) and Ann Dunham (born in Wichita, Kansas).

Obama's parents separated when he was two years old and later divorced. Obama's father eventually returned to Kenya.

His mother married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian foreign student, with whom she had one daughter, Maya Soetoro-Ng . The family moved to Jakarta in 1967, where Barack Obama attended local schools from age 6 - 10. Classes were taught in the Indonesian language.

And..... this is special!

His first name means "blessed by God" in Arabic.

In other words, our country is not yet ready to elect an Hawaiian.



Voter Wrote:
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> More comforting background...Happy voting!
>
> Barack Hussein Obama, born 1961, Hawaii, to Barack
> Obama, Sr. (born in Nyanza Province, Kenya) and
> Ann Dunham (born in Wichita, Kansas).
>
> Obama's parents separated when he was two years
> old and later divorced. Obama's father eventually
> returned to Kenya.
>
> His mother married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian
> foreign student, with whom she had one daughter,
> Maya Soetoro-Ng . The family moved to Jakarta in
> 1967, where Barack Obama attended local schools
> from age 6 - 10. Classes were taught in the
> Indonesian language.
>
> And..... this is special!
>
> His first name means "blessed by God" in Arabic.

Voter Wrote:
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> More comforting background...Happy voting!
>
> Barack Hussein Obama, born 1961, Hawaii, to Barack
> Obama, Sr. (born in Nyanza Province, Kenya) and
> Ann Dunham (born in Wichita, Kansas).
>
> Obama's parents separated when he was two years
> old and later divorced. Obama's father eventually
> returned to Kenya.
>
> His mother married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian
> foreign student, with whom she had one daughter,
> Maya Soetoro-Ng . The family moved to Jakarta in
> 1967, where Barack Obama attended local schools
> from age 6 - 10. Classes were taught in the
> Indonesian language.

Interesting. Ng is actually a Chinese name. One of my college professors from Hong Kong has that name too.

Go out to vote!


> And..... this is special!
>
> His first name means "blessed by God" in Arabic.

Can Obama be any worse than that cackling of Hillary. Everytime she laughs I expect an egg to roll out from under her ass.

Did you see her cry? What a fake. Just like Bill, she's just a snake.

Voter Wrote:
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> More comforting background...Happy voting!
>
> Barack Hussein Obama, born 1961, Hawaii, to Barack
> Obama, Sr. (born in Nyanza Province, Kenya) and
> Ann Dunham (born in Wichita, Kansas).
>
> Obama's parents separated when he was two years
> old and later divorced. Obama's father eventually
> returned to Kenya.
>
> His mother married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian
> foreign student, with whom she had one daughter,
> Maya Soetoro-Ng . The family moved to Jakarta in
> 1967, where Barack Obama attended local schools
> from age 6 - 10. Classes were taught in the
> Indonesian language.
>
> And..... this is special!
>
> His first name means "blessed by God" in Arabic.


Keep up the whisper campaign, Virginia for Hillary or whatever your name is this hour. I'll make sure to promote the rumor that Hillary is a Lesbian who had Vince Foster killed. Seriously, if that's the road you people want to go down, there is plenty of unfounded shit to dish about your gal Hillary as well.

"We want change"
Give me a friggin break, not something I want to hear or experience from a born muslim.
McCain 2008, but if I had to choose a liberal, I'd feel a lot safer with Clinton.

Reston Wrote:
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> "We want change"
> Give me a friggin break, not something I want to
> hear or experience from a born muslim.
> McCain 2008, but if I had to choose a liberal, I'd
> feel a lot safer with Clinton.


Barack Obama is a Christian. He is not Muslim.

Here is an article that clarifies the situation and explains what Hillary's deplorable supporters have been up to...

http://www.charlotte.com/409/story/477127.html

Relax ... I am not 'voter' and there is no whisper campaign. I am a taxpayer of FFX county and just want to ask people here to vote.

I am still not clear what change Obama is going to bring, how he is going to do it and what experience he has to make it happen.

My vote is for Hillary.



WashingToneLocian Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > More comforting background...Happy voting!
> >
> > Barack Hussein Obama, born 1961, Hawaii, to
> Barack
> > Obama, Sr. (born in Nyanza Province, Kenya) and
> > Ann Dunham (born in Wichita, Kansas).
> >
> > Obama's parents separated when he was two years
> > old and later divorced. Obama's father
> eventually
> > returned to Kenya.
> >
> > His mother married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian
> > foreign student, with whom she had one
> daughter,
> > Maya Soetoro-Ng . The family moved to Jakarta
> in
> > 1967, where Barack Obama attended local schools
> > from age 6 - 10. Classes were taught in the
> > Indonesian language.
> >
> > And..... this is special!
> >
> > His first name means "blessed by God" in
> Arabic.
>
>
> Keep up the whisper campaign, Virginia for Hillary
> or whatever your name is this hour. I'll make sure
> to promote the rumor that Hillary is a Lesbian who
> had Vince Foster killed. Seriously, if that's the
> road you people want to go down, there is plenty
> of unfounded shit to dish about your gal Hillary
> as well.

Virginia for Hillary Wrote:
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> Relax ... I am not 'voter' and there is no whisper
> campaign. I am a taxpayer of FFX county and just
> want to ask people here to vote.
>

Stop the BS. You have an uncanny knack for responding moments after one of your other aliases posts. We aren't stupid and we know what you are up to.

WashinToneLocian,

Are you male? Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Are you black? Not that there's anything wrong with that, either, just wondering?

Are you gay..... just kidding.

Wow, the Hillary campaigners are out in full force this morning in Rosslyn. I counted at least 6 of them, all waving to folks and handing out flyers. I didn't think they were really allowed to stand in the stations, they were up top near the Metro Mall under the covered part. You gotta be pretty hardcore to be standing out there in the cold like that, especially if you're not getting paid.

Nary a Barack supporter to be seen...

National Security

ALL candidates for President deserve extreme scrutiny by the citizenry. This is the only security “background investigation” they will receive.

Generally, we depend on the media to investigate our Presidential Candidates. The media decides what data is relevant for us to hear. We consider this filtered information, review same, and draw conclusions. We should choose our sources wisely.

When a NON-elected individual is offered a position of trust and confidence within in the United States Government, a thorough background investigation is conducted prior to that person receiving any level of access to classified information. Each of us, especially, here in Fairfax County, undoubtedly have had a knock on the door by a Federal Investigator doing a neighborhood investigation on an applicant for one of the thousands of jobs in our area requiring some degree of access to classified/secret government records.

( I realize for a few of the readers, that knock might be the serving of warrant…and you‘ll be jumping out the rear window…...just thought I’d beat you to it)

Anyway, applicants provide all medical, financial, residence history, club affiliations, foreign travel, etc. to the employing agency and often, depending on clearance sought, be subjected to a polygraph.

This background investigation does NOT occur for elected officials, in this case, the President of the United States. We, the citizenry have this responsibility . We are the investigators and we should examine every dimension of a candidate before making a decision if this individual deserves a Top Secret Clearance.

Once we elect a President, that’s it…..investigation over. This individual has access to all our Country’s secrets….secrets often gained at enormous sacrifice.

Think about that.

"Obama leads Clinton in Virginia by 53 percent to 37 percent, according to a poll released Sunday by Mason-Dixon."

Bye, bye, Hillary.

Here at Obama camp, we generally get up at 12.

BTW I am not gay and have never been gay.

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Wow, the Hillary campaigners are out in full force
> this morning in Rosslyn. I counted at least 6 of
> them, all waving to folks and handing out flyers.
> I didn't think they were really allowed to stand
> in the stations, they were up top near the Metro
> Mall under the covered part. You gotta be pretty
> hardcore to be standing out there in the cold like
> that, especially if you're not getting paid.
>
> Nary a Barack supporter to be seen...

"Here at Obama camp, we generally get up at 12."

______________________________

Way to go fulfilling a stereotype.

GO HILARY, the worker bee.

elementOFtruth Wrote:
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> "Here at Obama camp, we generally get up at 12."
>
> ______________________________
>
> Way to go fulfilling a stereotype.
>
> GO HILARY, the worker bee.

You're stupid.

Sadly, the liberal media have all jumped on the Obama bandwagon a long long time ago. Can anyone post even one investigative report on Obama's shady background from the MSM? I have not seen any. The only thing out there are the relentless bashings of the Clintons and luck warm endorsements of McCain.



Citizen Wrote:
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> National Security
>
> ALL candidates for President deserve extreme
> scrutiny by the citizenry. This is the only
> security “background investigation” they will
> receive.
>
> Generally, we depend on the media to investigate
> our Presidential Candidates. The media decides
> what data is relevant for us to hear. We consider
> this filtered information, review same, and draw
> conclusions. We should choose our sources wisely.
>
> When a NON-elected individual is offered a
> position of trust and confidence within in the
> United States Government, a thorough background
> investigation is conducted prior to that person
> receiving any level of access to classified
> information. Each of us, especially, here in
> Fairfax County, undoubtedly have had a knock on
> the door by a Federal Investigator doing a
> neighborhood investigation on an applicant for one
> of the thousands of jobs in our area requiring
> some degree of access to classified/secret
> government records.
>
> ( I realize for a few of the readers, that knock
> might be the serving of warrant…and you‘ll be
> jumping out the rear window…...just thought I’d
> beat you to it)
>
> Anyway, applicants provide all medical, financial,
> residence history, club affiliations, foreign
> travel, etc. to the employing agency and often,
> depending on clearance sought, be subjected to a
> polygraph.
>
> This background investigation does NOT occur for
> elected officials, in this case, the President of
> the United States. We, the citizenry have this
> responsibility . We are the investigators and we
> should examine every dimension of a candidate
> before making a decision if this individual
> deserves a Top Secret Clearance.
>
> Once we elect a President, that’s
> it…..investigation over. This individual has
> access to all our Country’s secrets….secrets often
> gained at enormous sacrifice.
>
> Think about that.

OBAMA!!!!!
Attachments:

Maybe if Hillary would actually do spontaneous interviews with the press, allow Chelsea to talk to the press and not bash the press every chance she gets, the MSM might actually be nice to her. Hillary's camp has acted like a bunch of assholes to the media from day one, where as Obama's and McCain's haven't. Hillary has done this to herself.

media bias Wrote:
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> Sadly, the liberal media have all jumped on the
> Obama bandwagon a long long time ago. Can anyone
> post even one investigative report on Obama's
> shady background from the MSM? I have not seen
> any. The only thing out there are the relentless
> bashings of the Clintons and luck warm
> endorsements of McCain.

All the bashing is from a guy named Frank Luntz. Frank run a "polling" group that figures out ways to say things to get the reaction his clients (the RNC being one of them) wants.

From Frank's website
We deliver a unique combination of strategic communications and market research. We are the only market research firm in America that truly specializes in language. Whether using surveys, traditional focus groups, or Instant Response dial sessions, we find the exact words and phrases that make a real difference.
________________-----

Ever heard Bush say the words "the war in Iraq" - NO. The reason is because Frank says NEVER use those words. Only refer to it the "war on terror". Remember those Harry and Louise ads? Frank's work also. The black child of Senator McCain's, probably Frank's work also....

Frank was on one the talk shows recently and said that the GOP has lots of stuff they can use against Hillary - meaning their distorted view of reality. But when it comes to Obama, he said "We got nothing".

And trust me, unless you are talking about Mother Jones News, there is no Main Stream Media with a liberal bias you are referring to. This is just another scary Frank Luntz tactic to get you not to believe what is in the newspapers.

Radiophile Wrote:
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>
> And trust me, unless you are talking about Mother
> Jones News, there is no Main Stream Media with a
> liberal bias you are referring to. This is just
> another scary Frank Luntz tactic to get you not to
> believe what is in the newspapers.

I saw Frank Luntz at a restaurant in DC one time. In person he looks like David Ferrie from the movie JFK. http://www.mugshots.com/IMAGES/P__david-ferrie.jpg

Talk about a bad wig.

Citizen Wrote:
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> National Security
>
> ALL candidates for President deserve extreme
> scrutiny by the citizenry. This is the only
> security “background investigation” they will
> receive.
>
> Generally, we depend on the media to investigate
> our Presidential Candidates. The media decides
> what data is relevant for us to hear. We consider
> this filtered information, review same, and draw
> conclusions. We should choose our sources wisely.
>
> When a NON-elected individual is offered a
> position of trust and confidence within in the
> United States Government, a thorough background
> investigation is conducted prior to that person
> receiving any level of access to classified
> information. Each of us, especially, here in
> Fairfax County, undoubtedly have had a knock on
> the door by a Federal Investigator doing a
> neighborhood investigation on an applicant for one
> of the thousands of jobs in our area requiring
> some degree of access to classified/secret
> government records.
>
> ( I realize for a few of the readers, that knock
> might be the serving of warrant…and you‘ll be
> jumping out the rear window…...just thought I’d
> beat you to it)
>
> Anyway, applicants provide all medical, financial,
> residence history, club affiliations, foreign
> travel, etc. to the employing agency and often,
> depending on clearance sought, be subjected to a
> polygraph.
>
> This background investigation does NOT occur for
> elected officials, in this case, the President of
> the United States. We, the citizenry have this
> responsibility . We are the investigators and we
> should examine every dimension of a candidate
> before making a decision if this individual
> deserves a Top Secret Clearance.
>
> Once we elect a President, that’s
> it…..investigation over. This individual has
> access to all our Country’s secrets….secrets often
> gained at enormous sacrifice.
>
> Think about that.

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OK, I thought about it and am now going to ask, how does the standard change to equal or exceed the one in place for any other TS lifestyle/full poly investigation?