LOL

Springfield's Jaxx rock club sues Gunnar Nelson

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-state-of-nova/post/springfields-jaxx-rock-club-sues-gunnar-nelson-for-slander/2011/08/30/gIQAES5ksJ_blog.html

Guess they're worried about their reputation, but seriously, do people really give a shit about what Gunnar Nelson has to say? The fact that he's still being interviewed amazes me. Even funnier- only 16 tickets were sold. Shocker!!

What's sort of interesting is that I've heard rumors about bands getting shafted there. It's still a decent club though and the owner seems like a nice dude. So I guess I'll have to pick Jaxx in this goofy fight for truth, justice, and the American way.

If I was being called a thief in the broadly-read Examiner by someone who looked like this I'd be pissed too!!1!1!!

I heard about his years ago. Still going on? Interesting.

How could you side with anyone who recorded "After the Rain"? LOL at the hair metal version of the "emo kid".



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I've met and talked to Jay Nerdy when he recently acquired Sully's. He is a very nice and personable guy.

I can only say the best of comments about him.

What? Wrote:
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> I've met and talked to Jay Nerdy when he recently
> acquired Sully's. He is a very nice and
> personable guy.
>
> I can only say the best of comments about him.


It seems to me that Nerdy thought he had a handshake deal with Nelson's manager and he thought he fulfilled the terms of that deal. I think it's ridiculous for Gunner Nelson to go blabbing to the press two years later over $3,500 when it doesn't sound like Nelson's management ever brought up the perceived discrepancy with Nerdy in the first place.

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justsayin Wrote:
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> If I was being called a thief in the broadly-read
> Examiner by someone who looked like this I'd be
> pissed too!!1!1!!
>
> http://www.liquid-blue.com/hot_news/images/2009/Ne
> lsonBrothers90s-2.jpg


OMG I think that is Wingnut in that picture!!

"Jay Nedrey ducked out the back door with the bar til under his arm while we were on stage"


In order to duck out the back door, Nedrey would have had to walked through the pile of flesh that travels with the band and walk directly past the stage.

Unless he fled out the front back door which isn't the back door at all.

Looks like Jay Nedry has LOTS of buddies in DC -- blogging / writing the article and posting ridiculous comments to malign the reputation of two of the nicest artists in show business.
Handshake deals with national acts? SERIOUSLY????
It's business 101. National music acts are only booked with SIGNED contracts. They put everything in writing down to the snacks in the dressing room.
Amending a booking fee is NEVER done verbally. Any legitimate businessman knows this.

If Jay Nedry were really concerned about his own reputation, he'd pay his bills. Period. End of story.

Sounds like he's trying to milk some scandal for his own PR purposes and shake down some nice people for some cash. Shameful.

In fact, with adding up the legal bills and court filing fees he's racked up filing a frivolous lawsuit TWICE in 2 states, he has no doubt racked up at least 5 times what he owed the act (without interest). Plus, he's the only one rehashing the story maligning his own name and reputation -- when he could so easily just simply pay his outstanding debt and put it behind him.

Ann Wrote:
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> Looks like Jay Nedry has LOTS of buddies in DC --
> blogging / writing the article and posting
> ridiculous comments to malign the reputation of
> two of the nicest artists in show business.
> Handshake deals with national acts?
> SERIOUSLY????

Nelson is hardly a "national act" these days. And, yes, handshake deals are done all of the time. Especially when you are talking about $7,500.


> It's business 101. National music acts are only
> booked with SIGNED contracts. They put everything
> in writing down to the snacks in the dressing
> room.

This is Nelson 20 years after they were popular. It's not Eminem with some fucking contract rider to play at Verizon Center. Snacks in the dressing room? Are you fucking serious? The "dressing room" at Jaxx is probably the alley behind the place.

> Amending a booking fee is NEVER done verbally.
> Any legitimate businessman knows this.
>

So you must book national acts at your club all of the time, right?

> If Jay Nedry were really concerned about his own
> reputation, he'd pay his bills. Period. End of
> story.

Yeah, well, seems to me this guy was defamed. Unless Nelson's management can show they did due diligence on collecting the money, they don't have shit.

>
> Sounds like he's trying to milk some scandal for
> his own PR purposes and shake down some nice
> people for some cash. Shameful.
>

Sounds to me like he was defamed.

> In fact, with adding up the legal bills and court
> filing fees he's racked up filing a frivolous
> lawsuit TWICE in 2 states, he has no doubt racked
> up at least 5 times what he owed the act (without
> interest). Plus, he's the only one rehashing the
> story maligning his own name and reputation --
> when he could so easily just simply pay his
> outstanding debt and put it behind him.


I like Nerdy. He rocks!

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Ann Wrote:
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> Looks like Jay Nedry has LOTS of buddies in DC --
> blogging / writing the article and posting
> ridiculous comments to malign the reputation of
> two of the nicest artists in show business.

If they are such nice guys why did gunner talk so much trash? Couldn't this have been settled in a "nicer" way?



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> Ann Wrote:
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> > Looks like Jay Nedry has LOTS of buddies in DC
> --
> > blogging / writing the article and posting
> > ridiculous comments to malign the reputation of
> > two of the nicest artists in show business.
>
> If they are such nice guys why did gunner talk so
> much trash? Couldn't this have been settled in a
> "nicer" way?


It's much easier to go to a newspaper and bitch instead of picking up the phone.

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I thought Jaxx only booked mexican groups

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Nelson changed their name to Nogales for the gig. No wonder only 16 people bought tickets.

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>
> BTW, I don't know how fucking important Gunnar
> Nelson must think he is to not be managing he and
> his brothers own tours nowadays.


Well, he WAS on Celebrity Fit Club where he lost, what, 10 lbs?

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16 tickets sold? They could have done better with a Tijuana donkey/girl act

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Sounds like Nelson wants some free PR. No way Jaxx made money on paying out $4000.

Only 16 pre-show tickets sold is pretty sad, sounds like Nelson's manager and PR person were a sleep on the job.

A bet Meade Skelton could get more relatives and church ladies at a show.

Oops... the last comment was really pushing it.

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> They probably do a 90 minute set tops and easily
> have a few more hours in their day between van
> rides to oversee their money.


90 minutes of what? They had, what, three songs? I guess they could do a couple of Ricky Nelson covers. Does that even get them to 60 minutes?

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> Drum solos and the part where the band members get
> their shout out and the bass player does a little
> run or two.
>
>
> Still 55 minutes left? Damn!


This would be the point where I would put the pistol to my chin...



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Chicas latinas more popular than Nelson?

seems odd to me that this nelson guy is pursuing this over such a small sum of money. What is he crazy? Free-basing crack cocaine or something???

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> seems odd to me that this nelson guy is pursuing
> this over such a small sum of money.

It doesn't sound like Nelson is pursuing the money at all. They waited more than 2 years then moaned about it to the press. If they really wanted the money, they could've filed a lawsuit a month after it happened. Sounds more like they're just bitter because they're washed-up has-beens.

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> Fartso Wrote:
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> > seems odd to me that this nelson guy is
> pursuing
> > this over such a small sum of money.
>
> It doesn't sound like Nelson is pursuing the money
> at all. They waited more than 2 years then
> moaned about it to the press. If they really
> wanted the money, they could've filed a lawsuit a
> month after it happened. Sounds more like they're
> just bitter because they're washed-up has-beens.


Actually, it sounds to me like their "business manager" did the deal with Nerdly and didn't tell Nelson about it. He gave them their cut of the $4K, they said, "Where's the rest?" and their "business manager" said, "He stiffed us!" instead of being upfront and honest about the whole thing.

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I have known only one other Gunnar in my life and he was an untrustworthy, wormy dickhead asshole. I'm guessing they are all like that!!

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> I have known only one other Gunnar in my life and
> he was an untrustworthy, wormy dickhead asshole.
> I'm guessing they are all like that!!


I'm pretty certain Gunnar is a popular name among Kansas City faggots.

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lol, wouldn't doubt it.

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WingNut Wrote:
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> Jay is a really good dude but he is also a
> businessman. I've heard a few bands griping over
> the years about not getting paid much from their
> opening act gigs at Jaxx and they have an attitude
> as if Jay is Mr. Rock and Roll Moneybags. He does
> well for himself but he works his ass off at that
> place and has a huge overhead as far as his lease,
> insurance and payroll goes. The bands I've heard
> bitching about Jay desperately need a stage and hy
> electricity more than Jay needs them. If you are
> trying to cut your teeth and do something in the
> music business, you should value the opportunity.
> Like amtauer boxing, "pro" wrestling and arena
> football, most of these people are doing it for
> the love of the game, not the payday. Really there
> is not much leftover at the end of the day for a
> payday.
>
> Smaller venues that attract the older, once-famous
> acts like Jaxx are in a predicament. Jaxx could
> have sold out the show, but sold only SIXTEEN
> seats a few weeks out of the thing. The Nelson
> boys were probably on a touring circuit of the
> Mid-Atlantic and would like to stop in the DC area
> to do a show and maybe sell some of their swag at
> the merchandise table. They would not have that
> opportunity if the show was cancelled outright. I
> can't imagine they would have come to Jaxx
> thinking a 16 seat presale justifies a $7500
> appearance fee. True, there could have been a
> surge in sales on the day of the show, but I don't
> see Nelson being too big a draw.
>
> Typically joints like Jaxx book up all kinds of
> shows on their calanders knowing at least a few of
> them will be cancelled or rescheduled due to poor
> ticket sales.
> Jaxx does little to no advertising and if you
> wanted to see Nelson, you would have to find out
> about it on either the clubs or the bands website.
> It is known and expected from both the club owner
> and the talent/management the tentative nature of
> the event.When they book an act like Nelson, there
> is an assumption that they are just putting out a
> "feeler" to see if the public is even interested.
>
>
> Nelson had a "hardcore following" of 16 in the
> area who were willing to buy tix in advance. I
> cannot imagine they were as unrealistic to think
> that it would be better business to cancel the
> show than to take a reduced fee for their show.
> Lose a little or break even, make it back up in
> Baltimore or VA Beach or the Luray County Fair,
> whatever, Not every payday is going to be King
> Kong.
>
> Jay is right to sue for slander. It is not so much
> that a bunch of crumbs like us will be influenced
> by the Nelson boys shitmouthing him, it is the
> strong liklihood that the words of Nelson can
> effect the decision by other bands that may book
> at Jaxx. If you are Ratt ver3.0 or some 60 year
> old metal guitarist who was the shit in 1980,
> you'll think twice if you hear you may have to
> chase your money after playing Jaxx. A lot of
> these bands are touring on a shoestring and don't
> even travel with their own drums anymore. If they
> think the State or the Fillmore has a better
> reputation and they can book there, they will.
>
> BTW, I don't know how fucking important Gunnar
> Nelson must think he is to not be managing he and
> his brothers own tours nowadays. Fucking around
> and paying a tour manager is a retarded waste of
> money. What the fuck is so hard about dealing with
> clubs and the stupid little logistic and lodging
> responsibilities required of some 15- 20 date (and
> probably mostly weekend) tour? There is no excuse
> for not having a more hands-on and direct
> involvement with his career.

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Re: The year 2000 was 15 years ago so technically, soon I am supposed to start feeling nostalgia for the year 2000 right? except I am not I still think everything from the year 2000 onward SUCKED ASS.

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WingNut Wrote:
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> Jay is a really good dude but he is also a
> businessman. I've heard a few bands griping over
> the years about not getting paid much from their
> opening act gigs at Jaxx and they have an attitude
> as if Jay is Mr. Rock and Roll Moneybags. He does
> well for himself but he works his ass off at that
> place and has a huge overhead as far as his lease,
> insurance and payroll goes. The bands I've heard
> bitching about Jay desperately need a stage and
> electricity more than Jay needs them. If you are
> trying to cut your teeth and do something in the
> music business, you should value the opportunity.
> Like amtauer boxing, "pro" wrestling and arena
> football, most of these people are doing it for
> the love of the game, not the payday. Really there
> is not much leftover at the end of the day for a
> payday.
>
> Smaller venues that attract the older, once-famous
> acts like Jaxx are in a predicament. Jaxx could
> have sold out the show, but sold only SIXTEEN
> seats a few weeks out of the thing. The Nelson
> boys were probably on a touring circuit of the
> Mid-Atlantic and would like to stop in the DC area
> to do a show and maybe sell some of their swag at
> the merchandise table. They would not have that
> opportunity if the show was cancelled outright. I
> can't imagine they would have come to Jaxx
> thinking a 16 seat presale justifies a $7500
> appearance fee. True, there could have been a
> surge in sales on the day of the show, but I don't
> see Nelson being too big a draw.
>
> Typically joints like Jaxx book up all kinds of
> shows on their calanders knowing at least a few of
> them will be cancelled or rescheduled due to poor
> ticket sales.
> Jaxx does little to no advertising and if you
> wanted to see Nelson, you would have to find out
> about it on either the clubs or the bands website.
> It is known and expected from both the club owner
> and the talent/management the tentative nature of
> the event.When they book an act like Nelson, there
> is an assumption that they are just putting out a
> "feeler" to see if the public is even interested.
>
>
> Nelson had a "hardcore following" of 16 in the
> area who were willing to buy tix in advance. I
> cannot imagine they were as unrealistic to think
> that it would be better business to cancel the
> show than to take a reduced fee for their show.
> Lose a little or break even, make it back up in
> Baltimore or VA Beach or the Luray County Fair,
> whatever, Not every payday is going to be King
> Kong.
>
> Jay is right to sue for slander. It is not so much
> that a bunch of crumbs like us will be influenced
> by the Nelson boys shitmouthing him, it is the
> strong liklihood that the words of Nelson can
> effect the decision by other bands that may book
> at Jaxx. If you are Ratt ver3.0 or some 60 year
> old metal guitarist who was the shit in 1980,
> you'll think twice if you hear you may have to
> chase your money after playing Jaxx. A lot of
> these bands are touring on a shoestring and don't
> even travel with their own drums anymore. If they
> think the State or the Fillmore has a better
> reputation and they can book there, they will.
>
> BTW, I don't know how fucking important Gunnar
> Nelson must think he is to not be managing he and
> his brothers own tours nowadays. Fucking around
> and paying a tour manager is a retarded waste of
> money. What the fuck is so hard about dealing with
> clubs and the stupid little logistic and lodging
> responsibilities required of some 15- 20 date (and
> probably mostly weekend) tour? There is no excuse
> for not having a more hands-on and direct
> involvement with his career.

tl;dr

Gunnar who?

Does Mr. Nedry come from a family of wealth or hit it big with silver back in the 1980's
neither Jaxx or sully's look like joints that generate lots of money so I was thinking there must be some dollars behind these ventures

if the roadducks had opened for Gunnar you think might have gotten more than 16
does gunnar sing Lonesome Town?

wally pip jr. Wrote:
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> Does Mr. Nedry come from a family of wealth

Him and his dad are both lawyers.

wally pip jr. Wrote:
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>
> if the roadducks had opened for Gunnar you think
> might have gotten more than 16
> does gunnar sing Lonesome Town?


Why, yes he does....



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Nelson makes $7500 an appearance? Wow. Eddie Money makes nearly $2 million a year on the state and county fair circuit.

Fairfaxunderground rules: Lilliputions, not ok. Midgettville ok. I got it now.

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> Nelson makes $7500 an appearance? Wow. Eddie Money
> makes nearly $2 million a year on the state and
> county fair circuit.


Keep in mind, that's before expenses. They have to pay the band and their travel, etc. I would be surprised if each netted much more than $1,000 per performance.

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ive played jaxx and never had any problems with jay or jaxx personally but i know at least one local musician who he screwed over. the problem is with his business model where he expects the opening bands to do all the advertising and ticket sales for him. it's hard enough to pre-sell tickets to get people to see your show at jaxx, but when Nelson is the only thing you have to sweeten the deal with? No, he probably didn't make a lot of money on that show.

not saying he screwed Nelson or anything. jay is a good businessman but like every good business man he'll try to maximize his own profit first even if it's through dubious methods.

Xxnxm Wrote:
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> ive played jaxx and never had any problems with
> jay or jaxx personally

Jay is very racist and is constantly shouting the N-word out loud in the club and spreading neo-Nazi's. during that Nelson show he got up on stage at least 5 or 6 times and shouted the N-word at the crowd and started harassing minorities. You could tell Nelson was getting pissed, no wonder they're all mad at him now.

I have a feeling he probably called the manager and said, "We've sold 16 tickets. We're going to need to cancel" and the manager was like, "Well, we we are going to be in the area anyway, something is better than nothing. What CAN you pay?"

Then the manager simply forgot to tell Nelson, Nelson got pissed when they went over the books and then the manager threw the blame back on Jaxx.

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