Re: Personally I think one planet per species is sufficient...
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Huh???
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Date: August 12, 2010 08:30PM
huh??? Wrote:
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> I don't really get it either, and don't think
> anyone has really explained it here. Like
> travelling to CA, by walking, biking, by plane,
> etc. -- your're moving faster so you just get
> there faster, but time itself didn't accelerate or
> slow down.
>
> It takes 8 minutes for the light from the Sun to
> reach Earth, so that light is 8 minutes old.
>
> So if I travel at light-speed to the Sun and back,
> it would take 16 minutes. If I took a clock with
> me, it would show that 16 minutes had passed.
>
> For someone on Earth, I would have been gone for
> 16 minutes.
>
> So I have never been able to grasp the Theory
> either.
OK, I read all the stuff posted, and here are a few things I see wrong:
Someone Posted that my "journey" to the Sun and Back at light speed would only take 2 minutes -- THAT IS FALSE!!! It takes 8 minutes, each way at light speed, whether on Earth or in Space.
Someone else Posted about the Cesium clocks used to prove this. I checked that out, and the the Cesium particles slow down in the air or in space -- THAT IS CORRECT, BUT, that pertains to Cesium Particles, not "Time" as mescured by a clock. There was no reference to them using a wind-up watch, nor digital clock, only that the Cesium Particles slowed down, whcihc makes sense as Particles of any type may slow or speed up when there is less Gravity.
Someone else Posted about Black Holes: This isn't the discussion here, it is about "Time", Not Black Holes or Worm Holes.
Someone else posted about going faste then light to go back in time: That isn't the discussion either.
Several of you posted about Gravity and Gases -- I'll get to that at the end.
And others posted about Orbits -- I'll get to that at the end too.
The real Troll@AOL did ask and fight, the fake Troll@A0L (A-Zero-L) continued last night to make the real Troll look dumb, but I don't think the real one was, he asked good questions.
Here is the thing that get's me: I takes 8 Minutes at Light Speed for the Sun Light to reach Earth. This is FACT.
Now, IF I'm on Earth, it takes 8 minutes.
If I'm in Space, It takes 8 minutes.
NO DIFFERENCE.
I checked the links you all provided, and Thanks, but Not One ever Really answered the Question. The Only thing I got form those was that they tried an experiment with Cesium Clocks and the Particles slowed down, so that in itself proved Nothing.
Simple Example for Particles: Water. I flows out of your tap, in creeks, strems, rivers... In a Flood, more Volume makes it move Faster (is there more Volume in Space? Yes and No), but when Water Particles slow down the Freeze and are Ice. You can walk on it, yet when it is warmer, and liquid water, you get wet. So Cesium basically did the same in the tests, it slowed down, but why?
Gravity and Gases: I forget who posted it, and am too lazy to finger somone on that, but YOU are wrong. Gravity DOES effect Gases. This is why we have Oxygen and Nitrogen, and more, on Earth. And as another Poster pointed out, the Gas Giant of Jupiter. -- Gravity can bend light, so obviously a gas, which has mass, would be affected.
Orbits: An Orbit is this: Our Earth is constantly falling toward the Sun due to the Gravitation pull. Yet, the speed that our planet moves, keeps it from falling directly into the Sun, to we continue to "Fall" around the Sun, as do all the planets. And as our Moon "Falls" toward Earth, yet orbits it.
More: The Moon, for some odd reason is actually slowly pulling away from Earth, this could be the Sun's Gravity or another Planet, but most ikely the Sun. The Earth is actually slowly moving closer to the Sun, but only by inches over many years.
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Sorry, got Off-Topic there, but just wanted to answer some thing folks posted.
Again tho, Einstein's Theory cannot be proven.
Cesium Particles slowed down, that doesn't Prove it.
The Mathmatical Formulas don't either since no-one haas tried (or could try) that right now.
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The Facts:
8 minutes at light speed for me to go from the Sun to Earth.
It does NOT matter if I'm in Space, or on Earth.
The Speed of Light is Constant -- as someone pointed out -- So 8 Minutes on Earth is 8 Minutes at the Speed of Light.
Also, somone posted that Astronauts have to re-calculate or adjust their Clocks on the Space Station. BS, Only if thier clock failed would they need to reset it.
I also liked the Poster that stated something about going 95mph in a 55mph zone.
Time, tho "man-made" (but not really, see next) doesn't change. -- God said to Name the Days, and Hours, and Months, and Seasons... and so we did.