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Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: I Love My Government Job! ()
Date: May 25, 2010 04:31PM

The promise was:

More money for entitlements. Less for the so-called private sector earners.

The delivery:

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/income/2010-05-24-income-shifts-from-private-sector_N.htm

Another win for the President.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Date: May 25, 2010 04:37PM

I Love My Government Job! Wrote:
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> The promise was:
>
> More money for entitlements. Less for the
> so-called private sector earners.
>
> The delivery:
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/income/2010-
> 05-24-income-shifts-from-private-sector_N.htm
>
> Another win for the President.


This has already been covered. U Fail.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: conVince ()
Date: May 25, 2010 04:52PM

Let us hope that everyone gets out to vote and remember how hoodwinked they were. This country is on the path to destruction as a democracy. With private sector pay down record levels and public entitlements up record levels we are officially a socialist nation now. Didn't take long, did it? Four years of demokratik rule on Kapitol Hill and two in the white house did us in. The model is completely unsustainable, and to support it you either have to really hold a deep-seeded hate for the United States or be a total idiot.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Paul Van de Water ()
Date: May 25, 2010 05:33PM

The shift in income shows that the federal government's stimulus efforts have been effective. I know. I am an economist at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.

It's the system working as it should. Government is stimulating growth and helping people in need, he says. As the economy recovers, private wages will rebound.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: May 25, 2010 05:33PM

You fucking idiots...if the Govt doesnt provide the safety net between you and the street..I dont know who does. And when the economy picksup...those entitlement program expenditures will shrink. If you have been the recipient of any of these safety net programs thank your god! The fact is you live in a very special place that is virtually immune to serious economic down turn...because of that same federal govt. Thank your lucky stars for that too.

Go ahead and vote against this system...and I hope some day you find yourself in need of help..and no one is there to help! Oh yeah..I forgot..that'll never happen to any of youuuu! You who spend half the day on the computer with your tyrades against "the Government"...lol..the biggest welfare cipipients of them all..FFXU posters.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Veronique de Rugy ()
Date: May 25, 2010 05:35PM

Not so fast, Paul. I am an Economist at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University.

I say that the riots in Greece over cutting benefits to close a huge budget deficit are a warning about unsustainable income programs.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: David Henderson ()
Date: May 25, 2010 05:40PM

Yeah? Well I'm an Economist too. At the Hoover Institution.

And I say that a shift from private wages to government benefits saps the economy of dynamism. People are paid for being rather than for producing.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Another Economist ()
Date: May 25, 2010 05:42PM

Who is Vince(1)? He's an idiot.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Ben Bernanke ()
Date: May 25, 2010 05:42PM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> You fucking idiots...if the Govt doesnt provide
> the safety net between you and the street..I dont
> know who does. And when the economy
> picksup...those entitlement program expenditures
> will shrink. If you have been the recipient of
> any of these safety net programs thank your god!
> The fact is you live in a very special place that
> is virtually immune to serious economic down
> turn...because of that same federal govt. Thank
> your lucky stars for that too.
>
> Go ahead and vote against this system...and I hope
> some day you find yourself in need of help..and no
> one is there to help! Oh yeah..I forgot..that'll
> never happen to any of youuuu! You who spend
> half the day on the computer with your tyrades
> against "the Government"...lol..the biggest
> welfare cipipients of them all..FFXU posters.


You're full of shit.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Peter Venkman ()
Date: May 25, 2010 05:47PM

I know one thing... crossing the streams is bad.

Oh, and I'm a PhD.



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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Linda Robertson ()
Date: May 25, 2010 05:53PM

Ben Bernanke Wrote:
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> Vince(1) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
If you have been the recipient of any of these safety net programs thank your god!

>
>
> You're full of shit.

He is, especially since his primary income is Government don't-have-to-work-for-it pay.

It's those of us on K Street who make the world turn.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: May 25, 2010 06:17PM

Look, the economy is rebounding slowly. The government had to step in. This type of situation is when it's supposed to.

I know what I'm talking about here. I went to DeVry.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: May 25, 2010 09:43PM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
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>
> I know what I'm talking about here. I went to
> DeVry.



I AM AN ART INSTITUTE OF PITTSBURGH GRADUATE AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!11!!!!11!!!

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: May 26, 2010 01:05AM

Paul Van de Water Wrote:
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> The shift in income shows that the federal
> government's stimulus efforts have been effective.
> I know. I am an economist at the Center on
> Budget and Policy Priorities.
>
> It's the system working as it should. Government
> is stimulating growth and helping people in need,
> he says. As the economy recovers, private wages
> will rebound.


I say Obama's stimulus plan stimulated nothing.

I'm not an economist but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Date: May 26, 2010 09:22AM

Alias Wrote:
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>
> I say Obama's stimulus plan stimulated nothing.
>
> I'm not an economist but I did stay at a Holiday
> Inn Express last night.


Check this out...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29976394/ns/us_news-the_elkhart_project/

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: mcsmack ()
Date: May 26, 2010 10:40AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> I Love My Government Job! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The promise was:
> >
> > More money for entitlements. Less for the
> > so-called private sector earners.
> >
> > The delivery:
> >
> >
> http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/income/2010-
>
> > 05-24-income-shifts-from-private-sector_N.htm
> >
> > Another win for the President.
>
>
> This has already been covered. U Fail.

Ha Ha Ha. Thats got to be a bad feeling. This well meaning ol'chap thinks he's breaking new ground and making good headway then you come along and deflate his tires. I'm sorry, these are the kind of things that make me laugh

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: May 26, 2010 10:42AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Alias Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > I say Obama's stimulus plan stimulated
> nothing.
> >
> > I'm not an economist but I did stay at a
> Holiday
> > Inn Express last night.
>
>
> Check this out...
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29976394/ns/us_news-th
> e_elkhart_project/

That's like posting a Glenn Beck graphic of where Socialism exists in the country. MSNBC is another "take it with a grain of salt" source.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: May 26, 2010 11:35AM

Registered Voter Wrote:

> That's like posting a Glenn Beck graphic of where
> Socialism exists in the country. MSNBC is another
> "take it with a grain of salt" source.

Never mind, of course, that it's basically a link from Moody's Economy.com

It must have hurt a bit to take a shot at your hero Glenn though.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: fairy faggot ()
Date: May 26, 2010 11:36AM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
>
> > That's like posting a Glenn Beck graphic of
> where
> > Socialism exists in the country. MSNBC is
> another
> > "take it with a grain of salt" source.
>
> Never mind, of course, that it's basically a link
> from Moody's Economy.com
>
> It must have hurt a bit to take a shot at your
> hero Glenn though.


gay

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: May 26, 2010 11:38AM

Thank you for your quality input, douchebag-who-shall-not-be-named.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Date: May 26, 2010 12:10PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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>
> That's like posting a Glenn Beck graphic of where
> Socialism exists in the country. MSNBC is another
> "take it with a grain of salt" source.

The data is compiled by Moody's and is based on what has happened, not conjecture of what could happen.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: May 26, 2010 12:44PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > That's like posting a Glenn Beck graphic of
> where
> > Socialism exists in the country. MSNBC is
> another
> > "take it with a grain of salt" source.
>
> The data is compiled by Moody's and is based on
> what has happened, not conjecture of what could
> happen.

Don't confuse "powered by Moodys.com" with anything other than manipulation of data to meet the needs of the question.

"The Adversity Index, from msnbc.com and Moody's Economy.com"

When you click on the link down in the page, it takes you to this page

http://www.economy.com/dismal/default.aspx?src=msnbc.

Here is another page from the same "Adversity" site:

Recovery? Most metro areas still losing jobs
Only 16 of 384 areas show employment growth in latest Adversity Index
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36617236/ns/business-eye_on_the_economy/

That gives you a much better idea of what is going on. A 3% increase in someplace is kind of meaningless when they probably had a 20 to 25% decrease prior to it, and those folks are not finding much in the way of new jobs. And yes, it is a CONJECTURE - look at the charts and you will see the prognosis for being in recovery is based on FORECAST numbers, not actuals.

Maybe you should read the fine print:
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The Adversity Index was created by msnbc.com and Moody's Economy.com to track the economic fortunes of states and metro areas. Each month, the Adversity Index uses government data on employment, industrial production, housing starts and home prices to label each area as expanding, at risk of recession, in recession or recovering.

"Recovering" doesn't mean "recovered." It doesn't mean that an area's economy is above where it was at the beginning of the recession, just that the area has begun to dig its way out of the hole.

The Adversity Index was designed to be a slow-moving indicator. It looks for sustained changes, so any one-month jump is likely to be smoothed out. This means the index is probably slow to call a beginning or end to a recession.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University



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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Date: May 26, 2010 12:54PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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>
> When you click on the link down in the page, it
> takes you to this page
>
> http://www.economy.com/dismal/default.aspx?src=msn
> bc.
>

Thanks for the link. Here's the top headline...

U.S. Momentum Was Strong Entering May

By Aaron Smith in West Chester
May 26, 2010

Our forecast calls for a slight downshift in growth this quarter, tied to developments in Europe that have roiled financial markets, and to fading support from the inventory cycle. The latest data show the economy had solid momentum before May's financial turbulence....


So, the economy was strong entering May. Turbulence aside, I anticipate you will still see a recovery occurring throughout June and July and beyond.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: May 26, 2010 01:18PM

When the China bubble bursts, where will you be?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503983_162-20000790-503983.html
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...
Bubble Dynamics

A torrent of commercial development, a residential market convinced that if you don't get in today you're toast, and a wan government response to overheating ... Sound familiar? But there are several key structural differences between our real estate mess and China's situation, which suggest it is simplistic to assume China's bubble must end in a U.S.-style meltdown.

* 1. Leverage is muted. About 25 percent of Chinese buy their homes outright with cash. Among borrowers, a 50 percent down payment is typical; you can't get a mortgage with less than 20 percent down and if you are looking to buy a second (or third) property the down payment is 40 percent. China also has yet to develop a HELOC market. Lardy, of the PIIE, notes that China's household debt as a share of household income runs about 40 percent. In 2007, U.S. household debt to income was 130 percent. Nor has China fallen into the grasp of Wall Street alchemists concocting toxic real estate derivatives.
* 2. It's not a blanket bubble. Beijing, Shenzhen, and Shanghai are China's Florida, Nevada, and California: speculation and overbuilding have clearly fed bubble valuations. But Nicholas Consonery, China analyst at the Eurasia Group, a political risk consulting firm, says there's still plenty of unmet demand in China's second-, third-, and fourth-tier cities.
* 3. The ubiquitous demand argument. Consonery also articulates the most oft-heard reason for why the bubble doesn't have to burst: China actually needs more construction, not less, to accommodate the mass migration of Chinese from their rural past to their urban future.

While China's real estate picture doesn't necessarily stack up as Dubai times 1,000, or even the United States circa 2006, similarities to Japan's property bubble could be more salient. Rather than a quick burst, Japan is still working through a long slow deflation from its epic property bubble that peaked in the late 1980s. Patrick Chovanec, professor at Tsinghua University's School of Economics and Management in Beijing, who has advised private equity funds on China investments, says that's the danger facing China. "Never underestimate the ability of the Chinese to brush things under the rug, rather than acknowledging losses and poor investments," Chovanec cautions. "That can create a long-term drag on the economy."
...

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But the China bubble is also tied to commodity prices - and if the Euro zone has further problems and demand in the US dries up after tax season refunds it is hard to say how sustainable Chinese growth will be.

A little history refresher:
The Bush Economy
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123215327787492291.html

And all of the "perception" of who to blame or not sits squarely on the MSM.

Blame George Bush: 75 pct on economy
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2010/04/blame_george_bush_75_pct_on_ec.html

But Obama's "honeymoon" is coming to an end. He better hope it pulls through soon, and no other "turbulence" hits. All those folks without jobs in the US aren't really going to care what the "turbulence" is - they just want to see jobs created.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Date: May 26, 2010 01:35PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> When the China bubble bursts, where will you be?
> http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503983_162-20000790-50
> 3983.html
>
> ...


Based on what you posted, it doesn't sound like a burst in the Chinese real estate bubble will be anywhere near as bad as what the U.S. has been going through. In fact, I'm less concerned now after reading this.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: May 26, 2010 02:01PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > When the China bubble bursts, where will you
> be?
> >
> http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503983_162-20000790-50
>
> > 3983.html
> >
> > ...
>
>
> Based on what you posted, it doesn't sound like a
> burst in the Chinese real estate bubble will be
> anywhere near as bad as what the U.S. has been
> going through. In fact, I'm less concerned now
> after reading this.


The fear is that the Chinese may slam on their economy's growth rather then a tap to slow it down...to avoid a housing bubble. If they over react to their housing bubble and the European economy (their largest trading partner) they may very bring on a two-tier slow down in our country. The good news...the Chinese have an excellent track record managing their economy.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: May 26, 2010 02:26PM

It's pretty funny that our man Reggie will spend HOURS ferreting through websites and crafting quote boxes, when really all he wants to type to ANY KIND OF GOOD NEWS is "sez who?".

An amazing display of douchebaggery, Reggie. Really.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: May 26, 2010 02:57PM

It's pretty funny that Fairy will spend
HOURS haunting this website and waiting for
the moment when, in a huge display of faggotry
he wants to say "I STILL LOVE YOU!"

An amazing display of Fairy, ShadowBrain.
Really.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: May 26, 2010 03:11PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > When the China bubble bursts, where will you
> be?
> >
> http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503983_162-20000790-50
>
> > 3983.html
> >
> > ...
>
>
> Based on what you posted, it doesn't sound like a
> burst in the Chinese real estate bubble will be
> anywhere near as bad as what the U.S. has been
> going through. In fact, I'm less concerned now
> after reading this.

I picked that write up for the reason that it "sounded" more balanced. What they are saying though is that the Chinese appear to be heading for something like what happened to Japan and their housing market - but possibly less volatile. The problem is, the article only focuses on the housing market, and is not taking into account the commodity issues and other factors such as monetary pressures.

The US problem stemmed from lax monetary policy allowing credit and cheap money to run amok. By the time anyone decided to rein on the brakes it was too late, as the banking and financial system were fully involved. With Japan, they had a boom that was partially based on a weak dollar. They bought into US real estate right as the S&L crisis was maturing - they then got caught out with hundreds of billions in losses as the commercial real estate market collapsed in the US.

The Chinese appear to be in an even more awkward position. While the basic comparison looks better, the other pressures on the currency and high commodity prices are hurting them. If they end up manufacturing everything, no one will be able to buy their products - what will the Chinese buy from others? Other than more raw materials - and we are turning away from even producing coal, which is the one thing the Chinese do want to buy from us. We'll see - you can keep pushing your optimism - based on your blind support of Obama. I will keep pushing the realist view - not because I want him to fail - but because the folks who keep trying to push rosy futures on us keep ignoring the fact that the policies being enacted are not supported by a majority of Americans. If it turns out he is right - good for him - right now I am not seeing it, and I am not going to blindly stick my head in the ground ignoring reality.

You, Vince, and Fairy all seem to share the same thought on that.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: May 26, 2010 03:41PM

Moody’s Reiterates U.S. Spending Risks Credit Rating
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=az1YD_O3PXz4

And these same Moody folks are warning AGAIN - that the US is in jeopardy of losing their AAA rating. And that will bode ill for everyone if it happens - the deficit payments will go even higher than expected due to increased interest rates on debt servicing, at the same time it will be harder and more expensive for us to get credit.

I imagine they aren't just saying this because they want to screw with the markets.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Uncle Miltie Friedman ()
Date: May 26, 2010 04:29PM

Hey boys and girls, compared to me, you're all morons.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: May 26, 2010 11:21PM

Would the economists who didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, mind explaining to me what this guy, Mr. Barro, professor of economics at Harvard University, is talking about?

"The fiscal stimulus package of 2009 was a mistake. It follows that an additional stimulus package in 2010 would be another mistake."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704751304575079260144504040.html

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Alan Greenspan ()
Date: May 26, 2010 11:34PM

We're all screwed. Doesn't matter if it's a Democrat or a Republican. Unless we kill entitlements completely and end these two wars, we will be bankrupt in less than 20 years.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: May 26, 2010 11:39PM

We don't have to kill entitlements, we have to restructure them. We have to look at how and why they are being paid out (for instance, kids that receive Social Security benefits of their dead parents for school tuition) and for how much. We need to look at how we qualify who receives them - in particular non-citizens.

We do need to end the two wars, but we also need to invest in raw material production and manufacturing. We also probably need a moderate, but small, tax increase - not a VAT. But we really can't address appropriate taxes until we can agree on what we should really be spending money on.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University



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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Alan Greenspan ()
Date: May 26, 2010 11:50PM

We at least need to kill Medicare-D and increase the Social Security age by a decade. It's insane that Americans are too stubborn to give it up, especially considering how little it is.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: June 10, 2010 03:53PM

Now even Soros is sounding the death knell...

Soros Says `We Have Just Entered Act II' of Crisis
http://preview.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-10/soros-says-we-have-just-entered-act-ii-of-crisis-as-europe-s-woes-spread.html
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...
“The collapse of the financial system as we know it is real, and the crisis is far from over,” Soros said today at a conference in Vienna. “Indeed, we have just entered Act II of the drama.”

Soros, 79, said the current situation in the world economy is “eerily” reminiscent of the 1930s with governments under pressure to narrow their budget deficits at a time when the economic recovery is weak.

Concern that Europe’s sovereign-debt crisis may spread sent the euro to a four-year low against the dollar on June 7 and has wiped out more than $4 trillion from global stock markets this year. Europe’s debt-ridden nations have to raise almost 2 trillion euros ($2.4 trillion) within the next three years to refinance, according to Bank of America Corp.

“When the financial markets started losing confidence in the credibility of sovereign debt, Greece and the euro have taken center stage, but the effects are liable to be felt worldwide,” Soros said.
...

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Date: June 10, 2010 03:57PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Now even Soros is sounding the death knell...
>


You forgot to mention that Soros is concerned that the calls for belt-tightening will be what pushes Europe over the edge.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: June 10, 2010 04:08PM

No, that is clearly noted in the article. He points out how this is very similar to what triggered the Great Depression as well.

But unless everyone just agrees it is ok to print money forever, clearly outside your means, then what else will they do? The monetary system is based on trust - trust that nations will back the money they print. If the world loses confidence in that - then we really will see the shit hit the fan. The only other alternative is MASSIVE world wide inflation as everyone's currency devalues. Not sure that is much better at this point - the inflation pressures are getting to be huge somewhere. The fact that they aren't "showing up" per the US Fed is just wishful thinking. At some point that dam is going to burst.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: June 10, 2010 04:12PM

that probably wouldn't fit in the text box.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: DC Native ()
Date: June 10, 2010 04:36PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Now even Soros is sounding the death knell...
>
> Soros Says `We Have Just Entered Act II' of
> Crisis
> http://preview.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-10/soros
> -says-we-have-just-entered-act-ii-of-crisis-as-eur
> ope-s-woes-spread.html
>
> ...
> “The collapse of the financial system as we know
> it is real, and the crisis is far from over,”
> Soros said today at a conference in Vienna.
> “Indeed, we have just entered Act II of the
> drama.”
>
> Soros, 79, said the current situation in the world
> economy is “eerily” reminiscent of the 1930s with
> governments under pressure to narrow their budget
> deficits at a time when the economic recovery is
> weak.
>
> Concern that Europe’s sovereign-debt crisis may
> spread sent the euro to a four-year low against
> the dollar on June 7 and has wiped out more than
> $4 trillion from global stock markets this year.
> Europe’s debt-ridden nations have to raise almost
> 2 trillion euros ($2.4 trillion) within the next
> three years to refinance, according to Bank of
> America Corp.
>
> “When the financial markets started losing
> confidence in the credibility of sovereign debt,
> Greece and the euro have taken center stage, but
> the effects are liable to be felt worldwide,”
> Soros said.
> ...
>


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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: DC Native ()
Date: June 10, 2010 04:36PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
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> > Now even Soros is sounding the death knell...
> >
>
>
> You forgot to mention that Soros is concerned that
> the calls for belt-tightening will be what pushes
> Europe over the edge.

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: June 10, 2010 08:57PM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> that probably wouldn't fit in the text box.

Right along with your oversized Fairy mouth.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
Posted by: loyal subject ()
Date: June 10, 2010 11:56PM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> that probably wouldn't fit in the text box.

Yowza, spoken like the true king of all fairies. Now excuse him while he takes a bath with his my little pony toys.


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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
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Date: November 07, 2020 10:40AM

Obama- Greatest president ever!

Good times!

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Re: Obama Wins -- AGAIN!
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Date: November 07, 2020 11:01AM

Obama will be on hand to give advice to Joe and Kammy. What could be better? This election is a big win for the American people!

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