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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: May 12, 2010 10:13AM

People are starting to wake up to the fact that the Republicans have shit to offer. Give it a few more months and let's talk again in October.




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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/12/2010 10:14AM by WashingTone-Locian.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: RV out of the closet ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:13AM

Billinois Wrote:
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> This guy Scott Lee Cohen is a real jewel. Way to
> go Dems:
>
> * The charges assert that Cohen held a knife to
> the throat of his ex-girlfriend, a prostitute.
>
> * The court documents alleged that Cohen tried to
> force his ex-wife to have sex with him. "On May 9,
> 2005, after having confessed to several affairs he
> had, he tried to have sex with me, and despite my
> refusals, he tried to force himself on me until I
> pushed him away and emphatically told him no," his
> ex-wife alleged. "In fact, I had been having
> family members, including my mom and sister, stay
> with me for the past several weeks because I'm
> afraid to be home alone with him."
>
>
>
>
> CHICAGO, May 3 (UPI) -- Scott Lee Cohen, who
> withdrew as a candidate for lieutenant governor
> after winning the primary, says he will run as an
> independent for Illinois governor.
>
> The millionaire pawnbroker won the Democratic
> primary for the state's No. 2 job but withdrew
> after domestic abuse allegations and his
> relationship with a prostitute were unearthed by
> the media. Cohen also admitted using steroids,
> allegedly failed to make child-support payments
> and has been named in dozens of lawsuits involving
> back taxes.
>
> Cohen said he decided to run because he's tired of
> waste and mismanagement in government. He also
> said he wants to change the business climate,
> saying Illinois has few incentives to offer
> businesses, WBBM-AM, Chicago, reported.
>
> Cohen surprised party leaders by winning the Feb.
> 2 primary. He was replaced on the ticket by Sheila
> Simon, the daughter of former Illinois Sen. Paul
> Simon.



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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: RV out of the closet ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:14AM

NY Times Wrote:
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> ASHLAND, Wis. — Representative David R. Obey has
> won 21 straight races, easily prevailing through
> wars and economic crises that have spanned
> presidencies from Nixon’s to Obama’s. Yet the
> discontent with Washington surging through
> politics is now threatening not only his seat but
> also Democratic control of Congress.
>
> Mr. Obey is one of nearly a dozen well-established
> House Democrats who are bracing for something they
> rarely face: serious competition. Their
> predicament is the latest sign of distress for
> their party and underlines why Republicans are
> confident of making big gains in November and
> perhaps even winning back the House.
>
> The fight for the midterm elections is not
> confined to traditional battlegrounds, where
> Republicans and Democrats often swap seats every
> few cycles. In the Senate, Democrats are
> struggling to hold on to, among others, seats once
> held by President Obama and Vice President Joseph
> R. Biden Jr. Democrats are preparing to lose as
> many as 30 House seats — including a wave of
> first-term members — and Republicans have expanded
> their sights to places where political challenges
> seldom develop.
>
> Mr. Obey, who leads the powerful Appropriations
> Committee, is one of three House Democratic
> chairmen who have drawn serious opposition.
> Representatives John M. Spratt Jr. of South
> Carolina, who oversees the Budget Committee, and
> Ike Skelton of Missouri, who runs the Armed
> Services Committee, have been warned by party
> leaders to step up the intensity of their
> campaigns to help preserve the Democratic
> majority.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/25/us/politics/25ca
> mpaign.html?hp



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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:14AM

WHy would I post something anonymously when I can actually put my name on it? If you think I would post anonymously obviously you know little about me trolltard.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: RV out of the closet ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:15AM

Low Turnout Wrote:
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> And more bad news keeps rolling in.....
>
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Dem Turnout Falls Off A Cliff
> May 5, 2010 10:18 AM | Permalink | Comments (51) |
> Share This
>
> By Reid Wilson
> Turnout among Dem voters dropped precipitously in
> 3 statewide primaries on Tuesday, giving the party
> more evidence that their voters lack enthusiasm
> ahead of midterm elections.
>
> In primaries in NC, IN and OH, Dems turned out at
> far lower rates than they have in previous
> comparable elections.
>
> Just 663K OH voters cast ballots in the
> competitive primary between LG Lee Fisher (D) and
> Sec/State Jennifer Brunner (D). That number is
> lower than the 872K voters who turned out in '06,
> when neither Gov. Ted Strickland (D) nor Sen.
> Sherrod Brown (D) faced serious primary
> opponents.
>
> Only 425K voters turned out to pick a nominee
> against Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC). The 14.4%
> turnout was smaller than the 444K voters -- or 18%
> of all registered Dem voters -- who turned out in
> '04, when Gov. Mike Easley (D) faced only a gadfly
> candidate in his bid to be renominated for a
> second term.
>
> And in IN, just 204K Hoosiers voted for Dem House
> candidates, far fewer than the 357K who turned out
> in '02 and the 304K who turned out in '06.
>
> By contrast, GOP turnout was up almost across the
> board. 373K people voted in Burr's uncompetitive
> primary, nearly 9% higher than the 343K who voted
> in the equally non-competitive primary in '04.
> Turnout in House races in IN rose 14.6% from '06,
> fueled by the competitive Senate primary, which
> attracted 550K voters. And 728K voters cast
> ballots for a GOP Sec/State nominee in Ohio, the
> highest-ranking statewide election with a primary;
> in '06, just 444K voters cast ballots in that
> race.



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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: May 12, 2010 10:15AM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> WHy would I post something anonymously when I can
> actually put my name on it? If you think I would
> post anonymously obviously you know little about
> me trolltard.


You should tell us. Your rapid response indicates you were trolling.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: RV out of the closet ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:16AM

WV Woes Wrote:
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> and the implosion grows worse......
>
>
> ------------------------
>
> WASHINGTON — Representative Alan Mollohan, a
> 14-term Democrat, has become the first House
> member of the 2010 campaign to lose a re-election
> bid after a West Virginia state senator defeated
> him.
>
> Unofficial returns from Tuesday's election showed
> state Senator Mike Oliverio leading Mollohan 56
> percent to 44 percent in the primary vote to
> become the Democratic Party's candidate for
> mid-term elections in November.
>
> Oliverio accused Mollohan, who has held his post
> for nearly three decades, of being a corrupt and
> out-of-touch Washington politician in an election
> year where anti-incumbent sentiment is running
> high.
>
> The race turned ugly, with Oliverio labeling
> Mollohan, first elected in 1982 to a seat long
> held by his father, as "one of the most corrupt
> members of Congress," charges the incumbent
> dismissed as lies.
>
> Mollohan, 66, came under fire from anti-abortion
> activists for his support of the Democrats'
> sweeping healthcare reform bill and was criticized
> in coal-heavy West Virginia for his eleventh-hour
> opposition to climate change legislation.
>
> "This was a tough and spirited primary process and
> we are confident that this historically Democratic
> seat will remain Democratic this November,"
> Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee
> chairman Chris Van Hollen said in a statement.
>
> "On behalf of the DCCC, I thank Alan for
> friendship and his outstanding years of service to
> our country and West Virginia."
>
> Oliverio, 46, will face former state Republican
> Party chairman David McKinley in this fall's
> mid-term elections.



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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:17AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> People are starting to wake up to the fact that
> the Republicans have shit to offer. Give it a few
> more months and let's talk again in October.
>

Obama has been talking like a centrist lately. That is bound to swing him a few tenths. Now he can paint oil companies as bad guys so that takes some pressure off him also - but he still has a ways to go before cresting 50%. If he stays below 50 it won't make any difference come the 2010 elections.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Wake Up, Indeed ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:17AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> People are starting to wake up to the fact that
> the Republicans have shit to offer. Give it a few
> more months and let's talk again in October.


So, you are contending that they are still in love with the incumbent Congressional Dems? So much so that they are outsting them in primaries?

They are starting to wake up. I just don't think you like what they are waking up to. I think you'll like it even less when you wake up November 3.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:17AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WHy would I post something anonymously when I
> can
> > actually put my name on it? If you think I
> would
> > post anonymously obviously you know little
> about
> > me trolltard.
>
>
> You should tell us. Your rapid response indicates
> you were trolling.

Actually WTL it makes you look like the troll.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: May 12, 2010 10:18AM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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>
> Obama has been talking like a centrist lately.
> That is bound to swing him a few tenths. Now he
> can paint oil companies as bad guys so that takes
> some pressure off him also - but he still has a
> ways to go before cresting 50%. If he stays below
> 50 it won't make any difference come the 2010
> elections.

This is true. But it will be above 50 percent come November.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: RV out of the closet ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:18AM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> WHy would I post something anonymously when I can
> actually put my name on it? If you think I would
> post anonymously obviously you know little about
> me trolltard.


Authentic RV post in an attempt to claim deniability for anonymous RV posts

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: May 12, 2010 10:19AM

Wake Up, Indeed Wrote:

>
> So, you are contending that they are still in love
> with the incumbent Congressional Dems? So much so
> that they are outsting them in primaries?
>
> They are starting to wake up. I just don't think
> you like what they are waking up to. I think
> you'll like it even less when you wake up November
> 3.

Incumbent Republicans are being ousted, too. It's an anti-incumbent mood. Not an anti-Democrat mood.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: things that make you go hmmmmm ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:19AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WHy would I post something anonymously when I
> can
> > actually put my name on it? If you think I
> would
> > post anonymously obviously you know little
> about
> > me trolltard.
>
>
> You should tell us. Your rapid response indicates
> you were trolling.


By this logic (or lack thereof), it can be concluded that you are "RV out of the closet"

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: May 12, 2010 10:21AM

things that make you go hmmmmm Wrote:
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> >
> >
> > You should tell us. Your rapid response
> indicates
> > you were trolling.
>
>
> By this logic (or lack thereof), it can be
> concluded that you are "RV out of the closet"


By your concern, it could be concluded that you are RV.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:21AM

Actually if I was going to post something it would be more on the lines of AGW.

Tuesday, May 11, 2010
Harvard astrophysicist dismisses AGW theory, challenges peers to ‘take back climate science’
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog
Quote

...
Examiner.com: What drives climate change on Earth?

Dr. Soon: Most of the weather and climate variations we observed are essentially related to the sun and the changing seasons - not by CO2 radiative forcing and feedback. The climate system is constantly readjusting naturally in a large way - more than we would ever see from CO2. The CO2 kick [impact of CO2 emissions] is extremely small compared to what is happening in a natural way. Within the framework of a proper study of the sun-climate connection, you don’t need CO2 to explain anything.

Examiner.com: What is your opinion of the anthropogenic (man-caused) global warming theory?

Dr. Soon: It’s never been about the science - even from the very beginning. It’s based on confusion and a mixture of ideology. We should deal only in the facts that we do know.

Examiner.com: Many of the scientists promoting the global warming theory appear to be driven by politics rather than hard scientific data. What are your thoughts?

Dr. Soon: I am a scientist. I go where the facts take me. And the facts are fairly clear. It doesn’t take very long to discover that their views [of man-caused global warming] aren’t grounded in the facts. Why would any solid science need so much promotion and advertisement and the endless shouting about how the science has all been “settled”? And now we’re supposed to believe that the growing consensus on the street that humans are not responsible for global warming is due mainly to the confusion created by climate “deniers.”

Examiner.com: Many scientists like you (often referred to as “skeptics") are ridiculed and isolated for challenging the dogma of man-made global warming. Many of your peers have been very successful in their efforts to marginalize anyone who deviates from the approved script? What is happening?

Dr. Soon: The pro-AGW supporters have become more and more confrontational in their attacks on scientists who challenge their views. For instance, Stephen Schneider [a professor of environmental studies at Stanford University], says that skeptics sell garbage and that we are playing games with science. He compares it to selling drugs and believes that we are criminals who should go to jail. Guess what? You don’t pull that sort of thing on people who know something about science.

Examiner.com: What needs to be done to combat the strong-arm tactics being used against scientists who disagree with the AGW theory?

Dr. Soon: Science needs to stand up. The AGW movement is killing science. It’s very unhealthy in many ways. They are corrupting science for material gain. It’s time for us to take back climate science.

Examiner.com: Many AGW scientists state with confidence that there is a very high probability that the earth is warming. Therefore, something must be done now to cut CO2 emissions. How accurate are their statistics?

Dr. Soon: Their probabilities are absolute crap. They are pulling these statistics out of thin air. It is completely anti-science. They talk about 90 percent probability. It sounds high, but would anyone fly in an airplane if it would crash once out of every 10 flights?

Examiner.com: The temperature data over the past eight years or so seem to indicate that we have entered a period of global cooling. Are we experiencing a cooling trend?

Dr. Soon: If you look at the data empirically, there is a cooling tendency. We’re already seeing signs. The possibility of a colder climate ahead is a very real thing.

Examiner.com: What is your opinion of Al Gore?

Dr. Soon: He’s somebody who needs to just shut-up and stop spreading nonsense. He has neither credibility on science nor moral standing.

...

Note my use of quote blocks.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Wake Up, Indeed ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:21AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Wake Up, Indeed Wrote:
>
> >
> > So, you are contending that they are still in
> love
> > with the incumbent Congressional Dems? So much
> so
> > that they are outsting them in primaries?
> >
> > They are starting to wake up. I just don't
> think
> > you like what they are waking up to. I think
> > you'll like it even less when you wake up
> November
> > 3.
>
> Incumbent Republicans are being ousted, too. It's
> an anti-incumbent mood. Not an anti-Democrat mood.

ONE incumbent in a caucus system. Dems will be down more than that by months end - all done in primaries. I just find it funny that all those predicting this huge interparty war within the GOP have to now face the fact that it is the Dems who are the ones fighting to figure out what they stand for.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:22AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> things that make you go hmmmmm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > >
> > >
> > > You should tell us. Your rapid response
> > indicates
> > > you were trolling.
> >
> >
> > By this logic (or lack thereof), it can be
> > concluded that you are "RV out of the closet"
>
>
> By your concern, it could be concluded that you
> are RV.

WTL having a Vince(1) day. Seriously - wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning WTL? It is funny to watch you get on here and come looking for a fight with me.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: things that make you go hmmmmm ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:23AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> things that make you go hmmmmm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > >
> > >
> > > You should tell us. Your rapid response
> > indicates
> > > you were trolling.
> >
> >
> > By this logic (or lack thereof), it can be
> > concluded that you are "RV out of the closet"
>
>
> By your concern, it could be concluded that you
> are RV.

By your reflexive, evasive and accusatory response, it is obvious you are "RV out of the closet"

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: May 12, 2010 10:35AM

Wake Up, Indeed Wrote:
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>
> ONE incumbent in a caucus system. Dems will be
> down more than that by months end - all done in
> primaries. I just find it funny that all those
> predicting this huge interparty war within the GOP
> have to now face the fact that it is the Dems who
> are the ones fighting to figure out what they
> stand for.

It's May. The elections are in November. You are going to see a lot more Charlie Crist/Bob Bennett scenarios in the coming months. Look at what is happening in California with Palin endorsing Carly Fiorina. If Fiorina gets the nomination, expect the Tea Party crowd to stay home in November.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: May 12, 2010 10:35AM

things that make you go hmmmmm Wrote:
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> >
> >
> > By your concern, it could be concluded that you
> > are RV.
>
> By your reflexive, evasive and accusatory
> response, it is obvious you are "RV out of the
> closet"

The fact that you are RV makes it obvious that you are RV.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Wake Up, Indeed ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:42AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> It's May.

Thanks for confirming what my calender says.

> The elections are in November.

Thanks again, I thought they were, but I wasn't sure.


> You are going to see a lot more Charlie Crist/Bob Bennett
> scenarios in the coming months.

I know, Lincoln, Specter, Kanjorski. Maybe Harmon and Bennet (CO).

> Look at what is happening in California with Palin endorsing Carly
> Fiorina. If Fiorina gets the nomination, expect
> the Tea Party crowd to stay home in November.

Wishful thinking, but that is like asking your Code Pink friends to stay home. There will be something on the ballot for them to go vote for.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: things that make you go hmmmmm ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:43AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> things that make you go hmmmmm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > >
> > >
> > > By your concern, it could be concluded that
> you
> > > are RV.
> >
> > By your reflexive, evasive and accusatory
> > response, it is obvious you are "RV out of the
> > closet"
>
> The fact that you are RV makes it obvious that you
> are RV.

The fact that you insist I am RV is proof that you are "RV out of the closet"

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: WSJ ()
Date: May 14, 2010 12:30PM

The Democrats' Civil War
The Democratic primaries are generating nominees who are embracing, or even going beyond, the president's unpopular agenda.

By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL

What do Joe Sestak, Bill Halter and Colleen Hanabusa have in common? The left loves them. This is yet another reason Democrats are in trouble this fall.

Given the obsessive coverage of the Republican "civil war," you may not realize Democrats are also feuding. Angry and disappointed that their president and Congress has not done more, the party's liberal base is throwing itself into the primaries, pushing the party to the left even as the country moves right.

Ask Arkansas Sen. Blanche Lincoln, who on Tuesday will fight to keep her party's nomination against progressive Bill Halter, the state's lieutenant governor. Also up for judgment that day is Sen. Arlen Specter. He has his new party's full financial backing. Recent polls nonetheless show the liberal Mr. Sestak within striking distance.

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Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D., Ark.)
Later next week Hawaii holds a special election to replace Rep. Neil Abercrombie, who resigned to run for governor. His district is Democratic, but the liberal Ms. Hanabusa is siphoning support from the party's preferred candidate, former Rep. Ed Case. Republican Charles Dijou might win.

These races follow primaries in Ohio and North Carolina where the anointed Democrat fought damaging battles against insurgent liberals. Ohio Lt. Gov. Lee Fisher prevailed over Netroots favorite Jennifer Brunner, but not before she had drained Mr. Fisher's campaign coffers. In North Carolina, the base's preferred pick, Secretary of State Elaine Marshall, has dragged the more conservative state Sen. Cal Cunningham into a June runoff.

True, candidates like Mrs. Lincoln and Mr. Specter are struggling against today's anti-incumbent, anti-Washington fever. But the primary challenges are also the result of mismanaged expectations. Barack Obama allowed the left to believe he was one of them. Some of his campaign promises certainly fed its hopes: He'd close Guantanamo, pass union "card check," renegotiate Nafta, leave Iraq. Adding to the left's exuberance was the party's filibuster-proof Senate majority.

But Guantanamo is still open, card check is still dead, Nafta is still functioning, and troops remain in Iraq. Meanwhile, the president dangled the public option in front of his liberal supporters, only to further enrage them when he lost that fight. All this has forced Democratic congressmen to take the blame for failures like card check.

The base has interpreted the policy failures as proof that the decision to sit back while the Democratic Party elected more moderates was a mistake. The response has been for unions and grass-roots groups to throw their money and support behind more liberal candidates. Democrats are currently battling as many, if not more, ugly primary challenges than Republicans.

No one exemplifies the dynamic better than Mrs. Lincoln. Over her 12 years in the Senate, she's been careful to project herself as a Democrat in tune with Arkansas voters and business. The party leadership's decision to push card check and the public option (both highly unpopular with the general public and the Arkansas public) forced Mrs. Lincoln to push back, which cast her as the spoiler of liberal dreams.

Mr. Halter was the result, propelled from the start by groups such as MoveOn.org. The lieutenant governor has run far to Mrs. Lincoln's left, and in March, his first month of campaigning, he raised more than $2 million. And the left is unleashing money against his opponent; the Service Employees International Union recently unveiled a $1 million ad campaign against Mrs. Lincoln.

Win or lose, the base's candidates are pulling the Democratic field left. Colorado's appointed Sen. Michael Bennet was intending to win re-election by keeping his head down, splitting the difference on tough issues. Then, last September, the grass roots fueled former Colorado House speaker Andrew Romanoff's entrance into the race, who announced his support for an ObamaCare public option. Not to be outdone in a closed Democratic primary, Mr. Bennet became the Senate's most vocal public-option supporter.

Unfortunately for both men, the winner will now be on record supporting a position few in Colorado's general electorate share. In Pennsylvania, Mr. Specter was against the unpopular card check; thanks to Mr. Sestak he's now for it. Mr. Fisher was ambiguous about the Democratic health bill, until, prodded by Ms. Brunner, he declared "100%" support. These are positions that can't easily be dialed back.

This lurch toward liberal priorities coincides with polls showing that the electorate— particularly independents—has shifted significantly to the right since Mr. Obama took office. While some Republican primaries are proving bloody, most are turning out candidates largely in tune with today's public frustration with Washington.

The Democratic primaries, by contrast, are generating nominees who are embracing, or even going beyond, the president's unpopular agenda. This is the feud that may have the bigger consequences for this fall's midterms.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: RV out of the closet ()
Date: May 14, 2010 02:48PM

WSJ Wrote:
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> The Democrats' Civil War
> The Democratic primaries are generating nominees
> who are embracing, or even going beyond, the
> president's unpopular agenda.
>
> By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL
>
> What do Joe Sestak, Bill Halter and Colleen
> Hanabusa have in common? The left loves them. This
> is yet another reason Democrats are in trouble
> this fall.
>
> Given the obsessive coverage of the Republican
> "civil war," you may not realize Democrats are
> also feuding. Angry and disappointed that their
> president and Congress has not done more, the
> party's liberal base is throwing itself into the
> primaries, pushing the party to the left even as
> the country moves right.
>
> Ask Arkansas Sen. Blanche Lincoln, who on Tuesday
> will fight to keep her party's nomination against
> progressive Bill Halter, the state's lieutenant
> governor. Also up for judgment that day is Sen.
> Arlen Specter. He has his new party's full
> financial backing. Recent polls nonetheless show
> the liberal Mr. Sestak within striking distance.
>
> View Full Image
>
> Associated Press
>
> Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D., Ark.)
> Later next week Hawaii holds a special election to
> replace Rep. Neil Abercrombie, who resigned to run
> for governor. His district is Democratic, but the
> liberal Ms. Hanabusa is siphoning support from the
> party's preferred candidate, former Rep. Ed Case.
> Republican Charles Dijou might win.
>
> These races follow primaries in Ohio and North
> Carolina where the anointed Democrat fought
> damaging battles against insurgent liberals. Ohio
> Lt. Gov. Lee Fisher prevailed over Netroots
> favorite Jennifer Brunner, but not before she had
> drained Mr. Fisher's campaign coffers. In North
> Carolina, the base's preferred pick, Secretary of
> State Elaine Marshall, has dragged the more
> conservative state Sen. Cal Cunningham into a June
> runoff.
>
> True, candidates like Mrs. Lincoln and Mr. Specter
> are struggling against today's anti-incumbent,
> anti-Washington fever. But the primary challenges
> are also the result of mismanaged expectations.
> Barack Obama allowed the left to believe he was
> one of them. Some of his campaign promises
> certainly fed its hopes: He'd close Guantanamo,
> pass union "card check," renegotiate Nafta, leave
> Iraq. Adding to the left's exuberance was the
> party's filibuster-proof Senate majority.
>
> But Guantanamo is still open, card check is still
> dead, Nafta is still functioning, and troops
> remain in Iraq. Meanwhile, the president dangled
> the public option in front of his liberal
> supporters, only to further enrage them when he
> lost that fight. All this has forced Democratic
> congressmen to take the blame for failures like
> card check.
>
> The base has interpreted the policy failures as
> proof that the decision to sit back while the
> Democratic Party elected more moderates was a
> mistake. The response has been for unions and
> grass-roots groups to throw their money and
> support behind more liberal candidates. Democrats
> are currently battling as many, if not more, ugly
> primary challenges than Republicans.
>
> No one exemplifies the dynamic better than Mrs.
> Lincoln. Over her 12 years in the Senate, she's
> been careful to project herself as a Democrat in
> tune with Arkansas voters and business. The party
> leadership's decision to push card check and the
> public option (both highly unpopular with the
> general public and the Arkansas public) forced
> Mrs. Lincoln to push back, which cast her as the
> spoiler of liberal dreams.
>
> Mr. Halter was the result, propelled from the
> start by groups such as MoveOn.org. The lieutenant
> governor has run far to Mrs. Lincoln's left, and
> in March, his first month of campaigning, he
> raised more than $2 million. And the left is
> unleashing money against his opponent; the Service
> Employees International Union recently unveiled a
> $1 million ad campaign against Mrs. Lincoln.
>
> Win or lose, the base's candidates are pulling the
> Democratic field left. Colorado's appointed Sen.
> Michael Bennet was intending to win re-election by
> keeping his head down, splitting the difference on
> tough issues. Then, last September, the grass
> roots fueled former Colorado House speaker Andrew
> Romanoff's entrance into the race, who announced
> his support for an ObamaCare public option. Not to
> be outdone in a closed Democratic primary, Mr.
> Bennet became the Senate's most vocal
> public-option supporter.
>
> Unfortunately for both men, the winner will now be
> on record supporting a position few in Colorado's
> general electorate share. In Pennsylvania, Mr.
> Specter was against the unpopular card check;
> thanks to Mr. Sestak he's now for it. Mr. Fisher
> was ambiguous about the Democratic health bill,
> until, prodded by Ms. Brunner, he declared "100%"
> support. These are positions that can't easily be
> dialed back.
>
> This lurch toward liberal priorities coincides
> with polls showing that the electorate—
> particularly independents—has shifted
> significantly to the right since Mr. Obama took
> office. While some Republican primaries are
> proving bloody, most are turning out candidates
> largely in tune with today's public frustration
> with Washington.
>
> The Democratic primaries, by contrast, are
> generating nominees who are embracing, or even
> going beyond, the president's unpopular agenda.
> This is the feud that may have the bigger
> consequences for this fall's midterms.

Anonymous RV post.

Lack of quote box proves it.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: things that make you go hmmmmmmm ()
Date: May 14, 2010 03:15PM

Washingtonelocian Wrote:
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> Anonymous RV post.
>
> Lack of quote box proves it.

WTL, how long did it take you to log out, write this post, and log back in again?

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: CT Liar ()
Date: May 17, 2010 11:09PM

Vietnam allegations threaten frontrunning Blumenthal in CT-Senate
Updated, 10:43 pm

The New York Times' story detailing Connecticut Attorney General Dick Blumenthal's (D) misstatements about his service in Vietnam -- he received five deferments and never served in the country, according to the paper -- has the potential to fundamentally reshape the Nutmeg State Senate race.

Writes Raymond Hernandez:


"What is striking about Mr. Blumenthal's record is the contrast between the many steps he took that allowed him to avoid Vietnam, and the misleading way he often speaks about that period of his life now, especially when he is speaking at veterans' ceremonies or other patriotic events."

Oomph.

Blumenthal campaign manager Mindy Myers released a statement late Monday night describing the Times story as "an outrageous distortion" although she did not deny the fact that the candidate had misled people about the nature of his service. Myers noted that Blumenthal will appear at a press conference tomorrow with Connecticut veterans.

Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee communications director Eric Schultz put the blame for the story on Republicans and, in particular, former World Wrestling Entertainment executive Linda McMahon who is running for the GOP nod.

"Its no surprise Republicans would want to smear Dick Blumenthal, considering all of the debauchery at [WWE] under Linda McMahon's watch," said Schultz.

Ed Patru, spokesman for McMahon, responded that "it's become increasingly clear to us over the past weeks and months as we've researched Mr. Blumenthal that there are some very troubling discrepancies between what he's been saying and the truth."

Simmons, who served in Vietnam, released a statement saying he was "deeply troubled" by the allegations against Blumenthal, adding: "Too many have sacrificed too much to have their valor stolen in this way."

Blumenthal, who has served as the state's top cop since 1988, has held a commanding lead in the open seat Senate race since he entered it. National Democrats spent months ensuring that the popular politician was ready to run if and when embattled Sen. Chris Dodd (D) decided not to seek re-election.

When Blumenthal entered the race, his poll numbers were stratospheric -- he held massive leads over McMahon and former Rep. Rob Simmons -- and Democrats insisted that they had saved a seat and, in so doing, squashed any talk of Republicans picking up the majority this fall.


Even amidst that celebration, however, there were some Democrats who warned that Blumenthal had not been tested in a serious campaign in more than two decades and that once punched -- as he inevitably would be in a high-profile race like this one -- he would collapse.

The Times story would seem to affirm the fears from those Democrats that Blumenthal was not the candidate he was cracked up to be.

"He's popular, but for no particular reason," said one senior Democratic strategist. "No one really knows him, and this fills in the blanks in a pretty devastating way." The strategist added that Connecticut remains strongly Democratic, which works in Blumenthal's favor but acknowledged: "It's a race now."

McMahon is regarded by most national Republicans as their preferred candidate due to her consider personal wealth and outsider profile. Simmons, however, does have an electoral base in his old eastern Connecticut district. The two will face off in an Aug. 10 primary that also includes investor Peter Schiff.

It remains to be seen how badly these revelations will damage Blumenthal's front-running candidacy. He faces only nominal primary opposition at the moment although the state's filing deadline isn't for another week. That week is going to be the toughest of Blumenthal's career.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: not even two years ()
Date: June 22, 2010 10:06AM

White House budget director Peter Orszag plans to leave government in July, becoming the first member of President Barack Obama’s Cabinet to depart, administration officials said Monday. Orszag is likely to join a think tank, colleagues said.


Rahm Emanuel is soon to follow

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: June 22, 2010 11:42AM

...And... this will help I am sure...

This is so sad it's funny. I guess they don't want to go on the record with anything this close to the election huh? What a bunch of fucknuts.

Cancelled: There Will Be No Congressional Budget This Year
http://gopleader.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=191653
Quote

Washington (Jun 22)

In light of House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer’s (D-MD) announcement this morning that House Democrats will not pass a budget this year – failing to fulfill what he has called “the most basic responsibility” of governing – the following important fiscal health warning has been issued:

THE BUDGET HAS BEEN

CANCELLED

WE REGRET TO INFORM YOU THAT

THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET

PLANNED FOR FISCAL YEAR 2011 HAS BEEN CANCELLED DUE TO WASHINGTON DEMOCRATS’ OUT-OF-CONTROL SPENDING SPREE.

AN APOLOGY FOR THIS BETRAYAL OF AMERICAN TAXPAYERS DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE FORTHCOMING AT THIS TIME.

BE ADVISED THAT THE FOLLOWING SERVICES WILL BE INTERRUPTED:

Imposing the fiscal discipline economists say is needed to create jobs and boost our economy

Reining in the out-of-control spending spree that is killing American jobs

Carrying out the “most basic responsibility of governing”

Stopping middle-class tax hikes that will sock family budgets at the worst possible time

Providing the leadership on jobs and the economy that Americans say is sorely lacking

Protecting our kids and grandkids from the enormous debt burden Washington has placed on them

We reserve the right to notify you of additional consequences that may arise in light of this budget failure, which is unprecedented in the modern era. In the interim, please brace for more spending, more debt, more tax hikes, more broken promises.

For families and small businesses looking for a government that listens to the people it serves and respects their hard-earned money, House Republicans are offering better solutions to cut spending now and help small businesses put people back to work.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: June 22, 2010 04:19PM

Hoyer this spring noted that the GOP-led Congress didn’t pass a final resolution in 1998, 2004 and 2006.


The House will put forth a “budget enforcement resolution” rather than a budget blueprint that looks beyond next year and calculates five or 10 years’ worth of deficit figures.


The House’s “enforcement” — or deeming — resolution will endorse the goals of the president’s fiscal commission and reiterate the commitment to vote on its recommendations after the midterm elections. And it will also set limits on discretionary spending “that require further cuts below the president’s budget,” according to the speech.


“This budget enforcement resolution will enforce fiscal discipline in the near term while the fiscal commission works on a long-term plan to get our country back to fiscal health,” Hoyer’s remarks state.


The nation’s debt and budget deficits — and what to do about them — are the theme of Hoyer’s speech.


It’s also the issue that’s destroying what’s left of the Democrats’ jobs agenda as centrist Democrats have balked at the price tag of such measures.


For weeks, Democratic leaders have tried to strike a deal on the budget, which is a non-binding resolution, but to no avail.


The talks triggered splits in the Democratic Caucus, alienating conservative Democrats from their liberal colleagues.


The House’s decision not to pursue a budget resolution comes as the Senate has been struggling to get its companion measure to the floor. And the politics of the moment are a far cry from last year, when the House and Senate easily passed Obama’s first budget on the president’s 100th day in office. The budget measure last year did not attract any GOP support.


Hoyer is seeking a new tone on how to handle the nation’s record debt.


“This is a remarkable moment in political history — a time when our creeping fiscal danger of our $9 trillion of publicly held debt troubles Americans as much as the prospect of the most brutal attacks on our country,” Hoyer will say. “The real question is how we respond... There’s the easy way — glib slogans about spending, solutions that are more about winning political power than confronting the scope of the problem, and answers borrowed from decades-old dogma instead of from a hard look at reality.”


The “right way” Hoyer envisions, however, does involve a continued separation of short-term and structural budget deficits and a careful avoidance of “overreacting to short-term deficits while we’re still feeling the effects of recession.”


“If ‘out-of-control spending’ refers to the Recovery Act and other jobs programs that are responsible for more than 2 million jobs and only a small fraction of our deficit, I’d ask what the alternatives were,” the speech reads. “Whether we are spending or cutting taxes, creating jobs in a recession means adding to the deficit in the short term.”

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Dueling Dem Presidents ()
Date: July 01, 2010 12:46PM

A Colorado Senate primary has divided a pair of Democratic presidents.

Ex-president Bill Clinton has endorsed Andrew Romanoff in his bid to unseat U.S. Sen. Michael Bennet, D-Colo. -- who is backed by President Obama.

The White House has had little to say about the dueling endorsements.

When a reporter (jokingly) asked whether he was "amused, dismayed (or) infuriated," Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs said, "D, none of the above."

This is the not the first time the Colorado race has given the White House heartburn; early this year, Romanoff said the White House dangled a job in order to get him out of a race against Bennet.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: gravelly voiced Chuck ()
Date: July 23, 2010 10:59AM

A House ethics subcommittee announced Thursday that it found that Rep. Charles B. Rangel violated congressional ethics rules and that it will prepare for a trial, probably beginning in September. The panel is expected to make the details of his alleged violations public next Thursday.

Rangel (D-N.Y.) has been under the House ethics committee's microscope since early 2008 after it was reported that he may have used his House position to benefit his financial interests. Two of the most serious inquiries have focused on Rangel's failure to declare $239,000 to $831,000 in assets on his disclosure forms, and on his effort to raise money for a private center named after him at City College of New York using his congressional letterhead.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/22/AR2010072204704_pf.html

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: mcsmack ()
Date: July 28, 2010 09:35AM

Pat Caddell has moderated his political biases over the years as a Democrat activist and pollster and Doug Schoen is an old Clinton holdover (could be a sign) but I think these guys see clearly the current state of the Democrat Party and condition of Obama's Presidency.

Gov. Rendell (NJ) has started beating the drum for a Dem. Barrack challenger in 2012. Folks like the former head of the Civil Rights Commission, Mary Frances Berry, acknowledged that the Obama administration has taken to polarizing America around the issue of race as a means of diverting attention away from other issues, saying: "the charge of racism is proving to be an effective strategy for Democrats. . . . Having one's opponent rebut charges of racism is far better than discussing joblessness."

It all points to one hell of an ugly mid term election and an even uglier 2012 election cycle.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703700904575391553798363586.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: July 28, 2010 09:37AM


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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: H2Oers ()
Date: July 30, 2010 04:25PM

A House ethics subcommittee has completed its investigation into allegations of wrongdoing by Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.), and could announce its next steps before lawmakers leave town for the August recess Friday, according to sources familiar with the process.


The committee is in discussions with Waters about the case, in which investigators looked at whether she broke House rules by improperly intervening with federal officials on behalf of a local bank, OneUnited Bank, that her husband owned stock in and once sat on the board of directors. It’s not clear yet what would be contained in a Statement of Alleged Violations if the investigative subcommittee determines she acted improperly.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/40399.html#ixzz0vCQ9gEez

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: info ()
Date: July 30, 2010 07:46PM

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work:

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Capt. Obvious ()
Date: August 30, 2010 10:51AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> People are starting to wake up to the fact that
> the Republicans have shit to offer. Give it a few
> more months and let's talk again in October.
>
>
>


Thanks for posting that chart. The nice thing about it is that it continuously updates daily. Looks a bit different today.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: EBJ ()
Date: August 30, 2010 12:05PM

Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson violated rules, steered scholarships to relatives

Longtime Dallas congresswoman Eddie Bernice Johnson has awarded thousands of dollars in college scholarships to four relatives and a top aide's two children since 2005, using foundation funds set aside for black lawmakers' causes.


Eddie Bernice Johnson The recipients were ineligible under anti-nepotism rules of the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation, which provided the money. And all of the awards violated a foundation requirement that scholarship winners live or study in a caucus member's district.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/082910dntexcongress.2c049bb.html

"Most Ethical Congress Ever...."

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Spanky ()
Date: August 30, 2010 12:36PM

Wilder would have made a decent President, he was a true Centrist, Dem. He did Ol VA alright. Why could the Dems ran him instead of the pinko comie from Il. ?

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: 10 points ()
Date: August 31, 2010 11:44AM

PRINCETON, NJ -- Republicans lead by 51% to 41% among registered voters in Gallup weekly tracking of 2010 congressional voting preferences. The 10-percentage-point lead is the GOP's largest so far this year and is its largest in Gallup's history of tracking the midterm generic ballot for Congress.

These results are based on aggregated data from registered voters surveyed Aug. 23-29 as part of Gallup Daily tracking. This marks the fifth week in a row in which Republicans have held an advantage over Democrats -- one that has ranged between 3 and 10 points.

The Republican leads of 6, 7, and 10 points this month are all higher than any previous midterm Republican advantage in Gallup's history of tracking the generic ballot, which dates to 1942. Prior to this year, the highest such gap was five points, measured in June 2002 and July 1994. Elections in both of these years resulted in significant Republican gains in House seats.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/142718/GOP-Unprecedented-Lead-Generic-Ballot.aspx

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Myself ()
Date: August 31, 2010 12:01PM

I recently have received several telephone polls asking about different candidates and who I was more likely to vote for. The calls went into various issues with economy and President and such. I told the pollers the same thing that I plan on doing come November. In the past, I have voted independent and have voted for candidates from both parties. Not this year though, I'm done with Connolly and all the others who voted in lockstep with Pelosi and Reid. Looks like it will be a straight Repub ticket for me.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: mcsmack ()
Date: August 31, 2010 01:19PM

There is a dead lock that has materialized in the Senate race in Nevada. One Omen not many pundits are citing is the Republican Alaskan primary race for the Senate. Murkowski enjoyed a lead of well over 20% shortly before the primary with something in the area of 10% being undecided at that point. Big backlash.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/senate/nv/nevada_senate_angle_vs_reid-1517.html#polls

I know Angle is being portrayed as a wacko but there are parallels here to many to ignore. In Nevada it will be all Obama blow back all the time. The anger I sense in Nevada is palpable. Even though what I've seen at street level is admit-tingly anecdotal I'll guarantee a lock for Angle 60 days out. No one thing is to blame here. Reids healthcare reform support was the beginning of the end. Then of course the economy and jobs. The last of which Obama attacked directly and personally pertaining specifically to Las Vegas.

Murkowski was barely connected to health care support and the Obama Doctrine and it most likely cost her the Senate seat she is sure that She'd won.

It will be reported as one of the most devastating and unexpected losses of the night upsetting the pollster's predictions several points outside the margin of error. Also by this time of the evening the Senate will either be in play or already locked by the GOP by stunned analysts everywhere.

The California Senate - Boxer vs. Fiorina race is almost a carbon copy of Reid's battle and Boxer likely will be gone shortly after Reid.
California Senate - Boxer vs. Fiorina

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/senate/ca/california_senate_boxer_vs_fiorina-1094.html

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: JR ()
Date: August 31, 2010 01:36PM

Presidents lowest approval ratings before reelection.

Bush W. 48% April- June-04
Clinton. 38% July-93, and July-94.
Reagan. 38% Feb-84. (note Reagan below 50% from Dec-81 to November-83). People forget, that Reagan was not loved at all durring his first term he was pretty much hated.


If anything Obama is approval rating profile resembles Reagan the most. If I had to put money on it, Obama wins reelection especially if Republicans win house and or Senate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_approval_rating

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: mcsmack ()
Date: September 01, 2010 11:38AM

This is going to become a common place scene throughout the midterm cycle. This gal and her entourage are truly in shock over what just happened. She fancied herself as a moderate in the Republican Party and look where it got her. Look at her family around her. Her pollsters assured her right up to Tuesday she was a lock.

Murkowski conceding Senate race in Alaska.
Murkowski Concedes

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: UVA Larry ()
Date: September 02, 2010 11:25AM

Larry Sabato predicts a Republican House majority
1. In a report issued this morning, University of Virginia political handicapper Larry Sabato estimated that Republicans will pick up 47 seats in the House on Nov. 2, more than enough to restore the party to majority status at the start of the 112th Congress.

"Conditions have deteriorated badly for Democrats over the summer," writes Sabato. "The economy appears rotten, with little chance of a substantial comeback by November 2nd. Unemployment is very high, income growth sluggish, and public confidence quite low."

He adds: "To most voters--fair or not--it seems that President Obama has over-promised and under-delivered."

Sabato's prediction comes amid increasingly pessimistic assessments of Democratic chances in the fall from the political prognosticator class.

Last week, Time magazine's Mark Halperin said that if circumstances didn't change Democratic House losses could total as many as 60 seats.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: September 02, 2010 11:31AM

JR Wrote:
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> Presidents lowest approval ratings before
> reelection.
>
> Bush W. 48% April- June-04
> Clinton. 38% July-93, and July-94.
> Reagan. 38% Feb-84. (note Reagan below 50% from
> Dec-81 to November-83). People forget, that Reagan
> was not loved at all durring his first term he was
> pretty much hated.
>
>
> If anything Obama is approval rating profile
> resembles Reagan the most. If I had to put money
> on it, Obama wins reelection especially if
> Republicans win house and or Senate.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_preside
> ntial_approval_rating

Agreed. The Republicans will give Obama a foil to work against. The Debt Commission will give its report and the Tea Party nutcases will expect the Republicans to start cutting spending. If Obama plays it right, he should win re-election and take back part of the majority in Congress (I still think Dems may hold the Senate in November).

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: September 02, 2010 11:34AM

Look at the approval chart for Obama up top? It's starting to revert back. Wonder if he will be back in positive territory for November? Could have an interesting impact on the election if he is.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Uneployeement ()
Date: September 02, 2010 11:43AM

If the unemployeement starts going down his approval rateings will sky rocket. If it hits 7% or 6% by 2012 he wins in a landslide.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Larry Scumbato ()
Date: September 02, 2010 12:19PM

GOP takeover of the House guarantees Obama reelection in 2012.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Pooh Bear ()
Date: September 02, 2010 12:23PM

Larry Scumbato Wrote:
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> GOP takeover of the House guarantees Obama
> reelection in 2012.

Looks like Sabato's predictions really upset Lopter.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 04, 2010 02:09PM

Now that Obama's approval is down to 42% we see articles like this. Hell, as much as I disliked Clinton, I would take him back now...

‘Bush … Come Back, Bush, Come Back’
http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/bush-come-back-bush/?singlepage=true
Why We Suddenly Miss Bush

Various polls report that George W. Bush in some states is now better liked than President Obama. Even some liberal pundits call for Bush, the now long-missed moderate, to draw on his recognized tolerance and weigh in on the Ground Zero mosque or the Arizona anti-immigration legislation. Apparently the erstwhile divider is now the healer that the healer Obama is not.

As President Obama’s polls dip, as Congress is widely disdained, and as the economy slumps, suddenly George Bush is missed. Why so? Let me list ten likely reasons.

...

2) Obama as Bush. Senator and then candidate Obama demagogued Bush on a variety of issues, which, as president, he simply flipped and endorsed. Remember Bush’s gulag at Guantanamo? Or how about the terror-producing Predators? Or the need for an immediate pull-out from Iraq? Or those terrible renditions and tribunals?

In case after case of national security, Obama dropped the cheap rhetorical one-upmanship, and, when invested with the responsibility of governance, simply adopted, or even trumped, the Bush protocols. General Petraeus, whose testimony Hillary once suggested required “a suspension of disbelief†and whom Obama cut off and did not allow to speak during his infamous 2007 Senate hearing, suddenly is to be Obama’s savior general.

Candidate Obama claimed the surge failed and all combat troops should be out of Bush’s Iraq war by March 2008. President Obama now calls Iraq a “remarkable chapter†as his vice president claims it as one of the administration’s “greatest achievements.†In short, almost daily, Obama is following the Bush anti-terrorism policies — the irony made worse by petulance and ingratitude in not acknowledging his debt.

3) Bush Did It. It is a uniquely American trait to shun whining and petulance. Rugged individualism and can-do optimism used to be ingrained in our national character, and even in our 11th hour have not wholly disappeared. So the public is tiring of Obama’s Pavlovian blaming of Bush. After 20 months, it is time for the president to get a life and quit the “heads you lose/tails I win†attitude about presidential responsibility. If he now takes credit for calm in Iraq without crediting the surge, then Obama can surely take blame for the anemic recovery — brought on by his own bullying of business that has frightened free enterprise into stasis. Note that Bush, unlike Clinton, has not engaged in emeritus tit-for-tat recrimination, and has kept largely quiet in dignified repose. Obama serially goes after Hannity, Limbaugh, and Beck by name; Bush let the slander of a Michael Moore or Keith Olbermann go unanswered.

...

10) Bush was authentic. He mangled his words. A liberal industry grew up around both “nuclar†and its sometimes corrective “nucular.†He strutted and talked Nascarese-like “bring ‘em on.†Much of this was excessive, but we knew at least Bush meant it. We got worried when he extemporaneously expounded for long riffs about freedom at press conferences, as his eyes rolled and he drifted from topic to topic. He put his arm on Angela Merkel and cried out “Yo Blair.†The media told us he was a yokel; we might add: albeit an authentic one who could duck properly when under shoe attack.

But Obama? He cannot really speak off the teleprompter without pauses, repetitions, and constant self-referencing (as in “me,†“I,†“my,†etc.). He is stiff and not comfortable with himself off the court or golf course. Bush made decisions and stuck by them; Obama the professor offers a perennial “on the one handâ€/â€on the other hand†mish-mash and a sorta, kinda, almost answer. Americans would prefer to be in a foxhole with George Bush, who would swagger and announce as decider-in-chief at H-hour, “OK, pard, we’re going over the top together on this one.†They wouldn’t want to be with Obama, who would stutter and give a long-drawn out exegesis why race and class had condemned us to such an unfair predicament, whose only solution is to go into a fetal position and condemn “them†who did this awful thing to us.

Who knows? At this rate America may play Brandon DeWilde to Bush’s Shane: Bush — Come Back, Bush, Come Back!


If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University



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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Capt. Obvious ()
Date: September 10, 2010 10:01AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Look at the approval chart for Obama up top? It's
> starting to revert back. Wonder if he will be back
> in positive territory for November? Could have an
> interesting impact on the election if he is.

Really? 8 days after your post, he is back at a 50% disapproval rating.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Most Ethical Congress ()
Date: September 10, 2010 10:05AM

Rep. Sanford Bishop (D-Ga.) awarded three scholarships from the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation to his stepdaughter and wife’s niece between 2003 and 2005, according to records from the non-profit group.

Bishop is the second Democrat found to have funneled Congressional Black Caucus Foundation scholarship funds to relatives, threatening to turn the program into a larger political problem for the party. Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-Texas) recently paid back $31,000 to the foundation for scholarships that she improperly awarded to various relatives and children of a top staffer.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/41953.html#ixzz0z8QgUzhv

Wow, Pelosi really rooted out all that corruption and "drained the swamp."

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Dump Nancy ()
Date: September 17, 2010 12:07AM

This was Al Gore's seat in the House when he created the internet........

It has been held by a Democrat ever since........

Democratic District 6 Congressional candidate Brett Carter is asking U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi to step aside for the good of Democratic candidates.

Carter, in an announcement made in Nashville on Thursday morning, said he sent a letter to Pelosi requesting her to step aside.
“I think it is incumbent on Speaker Pelosi to step aside,†Carter said.

Citing a report in the Murfreesboro Daily News Journal, where Carter was described to have an albatross around his neck in the form of Pelosi, said the divisiveness she generates hamstrings his and other Democratic candidates’ abilities to focus on the issues.

“I don’t believe my situation is unique,†Carter said.

If elected, Carter said he would not cast his vote for Nancy Pelosi to be speaker.

It is this first vote that Carter said many of the public is focused on, rather than his qualifications as a candidate.

"It is time that we show Washington and time we show America that we are prepared to lead going forward," Carter said.

In the release issued following Carter’s statement, he said Republicans are pointing at Speaker Pelosi as the “embodiment of our problems†and that Democrats can move forward with their agenda once they “take away that weapon.â€

“Ultimately, I believe it is not me who should be saying this,†Carter said. “I’m going to be the kind of leader that says what needs to be said.â€

Carter took no questions after the announcement, leaving for speaking engagements in Cookeville.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: mcsmack ()
Date: September 17, 2010 10:59PM

Dump Nancy Wrote:
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> This was Al Gore's seat in the House when he
> created the internet........
>
> It has been held by a Democrat ever since........
>
> Democratic District 6 Congressional candidate
> Brett Carter is asking U.S. House of
> Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi to step aside
> for the good of Democratic candidates.
>
>

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/4340540/democrat-calls-for-pelosi-to-resign/

Man....... How embarrassing.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: the defeated ()
Date: November 08, 2010 11:16AM

Oh, the hits keep coming. With Pelosi remaining as leader (pure hubris), Democrats will continue their downward spiral.

Letter from Defeated Members:

Many of us want the chance to run again and reclaim the seats that we lost on Tuesday. With you as the leader of House Democrats, the hangover of 2010 stands no chance of subsiding. Many of us have run our last race but remain committed to our party; we want to help recruit successful candidates to run in our stead. Unfortunately, we fear that Republicans will further demonize you, and in so doing they will scare potential candidates out. The prospect of having to run against their own party leadership in addition to their Republican opponent is simply too daunting.

This is a difficult letter to write, because we admire your commitment, your drive, and your conviction. You have been an historic figure in our great nation, and for that we are all proud, as should you be. Nonetheless, we each experienced how Republican demonization of you and your leadership contributed to our defeat.

It is impossible not to judge the results of November 2nd as anything but a profound loss. We want to recover. Recovery of our majority in the House necessitates new leadership at the top of our party. We believe that you can and will play an extraordinary role in our party, and it is extremely unfortunate that Republicans have taken away your ability to lead as effectively as you are able. Nonetheless, one mark of a strong leader is the ability to discern when it is time to pass the baton. As defeated members, whose party needs to rebuild, we are counting on you to show the strength of your leadership in this dark hour. We ask that you step aside as leader of our party in the House.

With utmost respect, we are..

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: no way ()
Date: November 09, 2010 12:07AM

LOL-are the Democrats still standing beside Pelosi? If so, welcome any GOP candidate to the White House - even that tard Palin! Talk about "out of touch" I think W has a higher approval rating than she does. What are the Dems thinking?

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: wrong again ()
Date: April 11, 2011 12:47PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Obama has been talking like a centrist lately.
> > That is bound to swing him a few tenths. Now he
> > can paint oil companies as bad guys so that
> takes
> > some pressure off him also - but he still has a
> > ways to go before cresting 50%. If he stays
> below
> > 50 it won't make any difference come the 2010
> > elections.
>
> This is true. But it will be above 50 percent come
> November.

It wasn't. Wrong again.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Big Nate ()
Date: January 24, 2012 03:02PM

The Democratic blood bath begins. Look for a bigger majority in the House this November.........


Nathan Kleinman, a 29-year-old member of the Occupy Philadelphia movement, intends to run for congress in Pennsylvania's 13th district against Democratic incumbent Allyson Schwartz.

"The petition gathering period starts today and lasts for three weeks, so I plan to file by then," Kleinman told me over the phone today. "I'll be running in the Democratic primary."

Kleinman, who refers to himself as a human rights activist and organizer, served as an aide to Joe Sestak's unsuccessful 2010 Senate campaign before becoming a legislative assistant to Pennsylvania State Representative Josh Shapiro.

More recently, he has been a member of the Occupy Philadelphia movement, participating in a number of associated working groups, including "Free University," "Outreach Working Group," "Process Working Group," "Camp Liberty," and "The Committee of Correspondence," through which he became involved with InterOccupy.org, which he describes as "a central hub for communications" in the national Occupy movement.

Now, he plans to campaign for the House of Representatives, which would make him the first member of the Occupy movement to seek a seat in Congress.

"After a GREAT meeting tonight in Jenkintown, I'm excited to say: I'm running for Congress!!" Kleinman wrote on his Facebook page last night. He later joined Facebook's "Occupy US Congress" group.

Kleinman told me that he intends to run on his own, autonomous platform, but will "stay involved in the Occupy movement" during the campaign.

A spokesperson in Representative Schwartz's office told me that she knew "a little" about Kleinman, but did not elaborate. A spokesperson with the Pennsylvania state election office confirmed that filing petitions for 2012 went out today, and said that an applicant must obtain 1,000 signatures to qualify.

"You need 1,000 signatures and a hundred dollars," Kleinman explained. "It's a pretty low bar."

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Neverending Implosion ()
Date: October 12, 2012 10:56AM

2 years later and the party is still imploding.


Police intercede as Dems Sherman, Berman get physical

By Jonathan Easley - 10/12/12 07:25 AM ET

California Democratic Reps. Brad Sherman and Howard Berman appeared to nearly come to blows at their debate Thursday night.

A police officer separated the two congressmen, who are locked in a tight, nasty primary fight, after Sherman put his arm around Berman and seemed to challenge him to a fight.

“Howard, you want to get into this?” Sherman shouted as he wrapped his arm around Berman and squeezed him tight.

A police officer then approached from behind and placed his hand on Sherman in an attempt to calm him down. The crowd whooped and cheered throughout the moment.

Berman campaign adviser Brandon Hall said in a statement the altercation was evidence Sherman was “unsuitable” for office.

“At a debate in front of local college students Congressman Brad Sherman loses his mind and acts like a bully,” Hall said. “This speaks directly to his temperament that is totally unsuitable for anyone, especially for a member of Congress. The Valley deserved better.”

According to the Jewish Journal, Sherman became agitated after Berman took credit for authoring the DREAM Act, which offers a pathway to citizenship to illegal immigrants who came to the United States when they were young and then go to college or serve in the military.

Berman and Sherman are facing off in a heavily Democratic district after finishing as the top two candidates in California’s new all-party primary in early June.

Polling for the race has been sparse, but a KABC poll released late last month showed Sherman ahead with 45 percent support over Berman at 32, although 23 percent said they were undecided.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: still imploding ()
Date: May 10, 2013 11:47AM

Still declining 3 years later. Outside of winning the Presidency, the Dems have not been very successful.....



One of the Democrats’ most veteran strategists warns that the party is “in decline” and “at considerable risk” when President Barack Obama is no longer on the scene.

“Since Obama was elected President, the Democrats have lost nine governorships, 56 members of the House and two Senate seats,” Doug Sosnik, the political director in Bill Clinton’s White House, writes in a new memo.

While Republican branding problems get the lion’s share of attention, the Democratic Party’s favorability rating has declined by 15 points since Obama took power. A Pew Research Center survey this January showed that the Democratic Party was viewed favorably by 47 percent of Americans, down from 62 percent in Jan. 2009.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/dem-strategist-warns-party-in-decline-91172.html#ixzz2SuBPVuMT

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Young Curmudgeon ()
Date: May 10, 2013 12:44PM

still imploding Wrote:
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> Still declining 3 years later. Outside of winning
> the Presidency, the Dems have not been very
> successful.....
>
>
>
> One of the Democrats’ most veteran strategists
> warns that the party is “in decline” and “at
> considerable risk” when President Barack Obama
> is no longer on the scene.
>
> “Since Obama was elected President, the
> Democrats have lost nine governorships, 56 members
> of the House and two Senate seats,” Doug Sosnik,
> the political director in Bill Clinton’s White
> House, writes in a new memo.
>
> While Republican branding problems get the
> lion’s share of attention, the Democratic
> Party’s favorability rating has declined by 15
> points since Obama took power. A Pew Research
> Center survey this January showed that the
> Democratic Party was viewed favorably by 47
> percent of Americans, down from 62 percent in Jan.
> 2009.
>
>
> Read more:
> http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/dem-strategi
> st-warns-party-in-decline-91172.html#ixzz2SuBPVuMT

Funny. The main reason for all of that was the passage of Obamacare, as well as the fact that the ruling party almost ALWAYS loses seats in the midterm election.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Hahahaha ()
Date: May 11, 2013 11:11AM

yes picking up senatorial/house seats and the presidency again is totally declining. Its not like republicans are primary'ing their own candidates or anything. Its not like the leading republican senator is shitting himself because some douche who thinks that any control on military weaponry in private hands = against the 2nd amendment

Hahaha, whatever you fringe breitbart wanna bes. Just sit back, grab some snacks, and watch the shit show known as GOP america continue to entertain. I'm personally fine sending all that federal welfare money to states like Arkansas because I love the entertainment they give back even if this country would be better off with out them

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Tulsi vs. Lil Debbie ()
Date: October 13, 2015 09:29PM

Democrats are battling one another offstage ahead of the party’s first 2016 debate, with a prominent lawmaker engaged in a fierce war of words with the party chairman.

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii), a vice chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), is all but calling DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz a liar as the two publicly battle over whether Gabbard was disinvited from Tuesday night’s debate.

Gabbard stood by her claims in a string of interviews Monday night and Tuesday, arguing she was being punished for vocally criticizing her party for only holding six debates.
“It's not surprising to me that she is saying things that aren't true,” she said of her House colleague during an appearance Tuesday on MSNBC's "Andrea Mitchell Reports."

Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) fired back in her own round of interviews. Asked on the same MSNBC program whether she told Gabbard not to come to the debate, she replied, “that is simply not the case.”

“What we said, as my staff communicated to her staff, is that she needed to focus on the issues and make a commitment to do that, and in fact, she said yesterday in a news interview that if she came, she would be a distraction and so she chose not to come,” Wasserman Schultz said.

In a separate interview on CNN, Wasserman Schultz said Gabbard was focused on “process and on herself” instead of on the party’s “great candidates.”

The public spat threatens to be embarrassing distraction for Democrats, and it could spill over into Tuesday night’s debate.

One of the candidates on the stage, former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley, has repeatedly denounced the debate schedule as “rigged” and accused the DNC of tilting the process in favor of front-runner Hillary Clinton.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), the lead challenger to Clinton in the polls, has been less strident in his criticism, but said Democrats are “dead wrong” to limit the number of debates.

“I think this country benefits, all people benefit, democracy benefits, when we have debates, and I want to see more of them,” Sanders said in August. “I think that debates are a good thing."

Wasserman Schultz appeared to slam the door on changing the debate schedule in early September, telling reporters: “We’re not changing the process. We’re having six debates.”

“Every day someone is going to say something about my intentions, but I have a party to run,” she said. “... I’ll make decisions that will make some people happy and some people unhappy. I can’t worry about that.”

But Gabbard — an up-and-coming Democrat who has vocally criticized President Obama’s strategy against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) — has kept up the drumbeat of criticism.

For weeks, the Hawaii Democrat has called for an expansion of the debate schedule and for dropping a policy that bars the candidates from participating in unsanctioned events.

Minneapolis Mayor R.T. Rybak, another DNC chairman, authored a joint Facebook post with Gabbard last month calling the debate schedule a “mistake.”

On Tuesday, during an interview on CNN, Gabbard said she wasn't consulted about the debate criteria despite her position with the DNC.

Wasserman Schultz “claimed a month ago that she had spoken with, communicated and consulted with officers of the DNC about her decision to limit debates to six” and about the exclusion clause, Gabbard said.

“That never occurred. I can tell you, speaking for myself, that I didn't find out her decision until after the fact. There was no consultation and no communication,” Gabbard said.

Wasserman Schultz rejected that assertion on CNN, saying, “there were many people, including officers," who were consulted. She accused Gabbard of "quibbling about process.”

“We are a big tent party and welcome those opinions. But this debate and every debate going forward is about the issues,” she said.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Moar!!!! ()
Date: November 09, 2016 08:22AM

Hillary Clinton further contributed to the party's implosion.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Gerrytarderrer2 ()
Date: November 09, 2016 08:29AM

dr-evil-laugh-o.gif

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Gerrytarderrer2 ()
Date: November 09, 2016 08:29AM

raw

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Uj6mc ()
Date: November 09, 2016 08:40AM

Many Fairfax Democrats hold security clearances, yet still voted for Hillary, knowing full well that what she did with her private server and government emails was criminal. They are equally as corrupt and without morals as Hillary.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: D's keep on failing ()
Date: November 15, 2016 03:11PM

Nancy Pelosi might lose her leadership position.

Dems are falling apart everywhere.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: I'm impressed ()
Date: February 21, 2017 04:07PM

Wow. The OP actually called this shit from 6 years out. That's actually pretty impressive for this forum.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: it's going to be good! ()
Date: November 02, 2017 01:50PM

I discussed the fundraising agreement that each of the candidates had signed. Bernie was familiar with it, but he and his staff ignored it. They had their own way of raising money through small donations. I described how Hillary’s campaign had taken it another step.

I told Bernie I had found Hillary’s Joint Fundraising Agreement. I explained that the cancer was that she had exerted this control of the party long before she became its nominee. Had I known this, I never would have accepted the interim chair position, but here we were with only weeks before the election.


https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: the hits keep coming ()
Date: February 04, 2020 07:47AM

The Iowa caucuses certainly didn't help Democrats.

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