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Hillary Clinton’s health just became a real issue in the presidential campaign
Posted by:
Chris Cillizza aka WaPo libtard
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Date: September 11, 2016 02:26PM
Hillary Clinton’s health just became a real issue in the presidential campaign
By Chris Cillizza September 11 at 11:44 AM
Clinton stumbles leaving 9/11 memorial ceremony Embed Share Play Video1:06
A video shared on Twitter shows Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton being held up by her staff and helped into a van as she leaves the 9/11 memorial service because she was feeling "overheated." (AP)
Hillary Clinton falling ill Sunday morning at a memorial service on the 15th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks will catapult questions about her health from the ranks of conservative conspiracy theory to perhaps the central debate in the presidential race over the coming days.
"Secretary Clinton attended the September 11th Commemoration Ceremony for just an hour and thirty minutes this morning to pay her respects and greet some of the families of the fallen," spokesman Nick Merrill said. "During the ceremony, she felt overheated, so departed to go to her daughter's apartment and is feeling much better."
What that statement leaves out is that a) it came 90 minutes after Clinton left the ceremony b) reporters — or even a reporter — were not allowed to follow her and c) the temperature in New York City at the time of Clinton's overheating was in the low 80s. (A heat wave over the eastern United States broke last night/this morning.)
She later left her daughter's apartment, saying she was "feeling great" and waving at the crowd, per the Associated Press.
Whether Clinton likes it or not, her "overheating" episode comes at a very bad time for her campaign. Thanks to the likes of Rudy Giuliani and a small but vocal element of the Republican base, talk of her health had been bubbling over the past week — triggered by a coughing episode she experienced during a Labor Day rally.
That talk was largely confined to Republicans convinced that Clinton has long been hiding some sort of serious illness. I wrote dismissively of that conspiracy theory in this space last week, noting that Clinton had been given an entirely clean bill of health by her doctors after an episode in which she fainted, suffered a concussion and then was found to have a blood clot in late 2012 and early 2013.
Coughing, I wrote, is simply not evidence enough of any sort of major illness that Clinton is assumed to be hiding. Neither, of course, is feeling "overheated." But those two things happening within six days of each other to a candidate who is 68 years old makes talk of Clinton's health no longer just the stuff of conspiracy theorists.
Whereas Clinton and her campaign could laugh off questions about her health before today, the "overheating" episode makes it almost impossible for them to do so. Not only has it come at a time when there was growing chatter — with very little evidence — that her health was a problem but it also happened at a 9/11 memorial event — an incredibly high-profile moment with lots and lots of cameras and reporters around.
Her campaign may well try to dismiss this story as nothing more than an isolated incident, meaning nothing. (Democrats were already pushing the story of George W. Bush fainting in 2002 after choking on a pretzel, via Twitter.)
But the issue is that Clinton kept reporters totally in the dark for 90 minutes after her abrupt departure from the 9/11 memorial service for a health-related matter. No reporter was allowed to follow her. (Clinton has resisted a protective pool for coverage because Donald Trump refuses to participate in one.) This is, yet again, the Clinton campaign asking everyone to just trust it. She got overheated! But she's fine now!
Clinton may well be totally fine — and I certainly hope she is. But we are 58 days away from choosing the person who will lead the country for the next four years, and she is one of the two candidates with a real chance of winning. Taking the Clinton team's word for it on her health — in light of the episode on Sunday morning — is no longer enough. Reasonable people can — and will — have real questions about her health.
I wrote this on Tuesday morning:
"The simple fact is that there is zero evidence that anything is seriously wrong with Clinton. If suffering an occasional coughing fit is evidence of a major health problem, then 75 percent of the country must have that mystery illness. And I am one of them."
Well, that is no longer operative. Context matters. A coughing episode is almost always just a coughing episode. But when coupled with Clinton's "overheating" on Sunday morning — with temperatures something short of sweltering — Clinton and her team simply need to say something about what happened (and why the press was in the dark for so long.)
And as the New York Times's Adam Nagourney tweeted on Sunday morning, now might be a good time for Clinton to release a fuller record of her medical history.
Feels like a good day for Clinton to release her medical records and call on Trump to do same
— adam nagourney (@adamnagourney) September 11, 2016
Sunday morning changed the conversation in the race about Clinton's health. Or rather it will force Clinton to have a conversation about her health in the race.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/11/hillary-clintons-health-just-became-a-real-issue-in-the-presidential-campaign/
By Chris Cillizza September 11 at 11:44 AM
Clinton stumbles leaving 9/11 memorial ceremony Embed Share Play Video1:06
A video shared on Twitter shows Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton being held up by her staff and helped into a van as she leaves the 9/11 memorial service because she was feeling "overheated." (AP)
Hillary Clinton falling ill Sunday morning at a memorial service on the 15th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks will catapult questions about her health from the ranks of conservative conspiracy theory to perhaps the central debate in the presidential race over the coming days.
"Secretary Clinton attended the September 11th Commemoration Ceremony for just an hour and thirty minutes this morning to pay her respects and greet some of the families of the fallen," spokesman Nick Merrill said. "During the ceremony, she felt overheated, so departed to go to her daughter's apartment and is feeling much better."
What that statement leaves out is that a) it came 90 minutes after Clinton left the ceremony b) reporters — or even a reporter — were not allowed to follow her and c) the temperature in New York City at the time of Clinton's overheating was in the low 80s. (A heat wave over the eastern United States broke last night/this morning.)
She later left her daughter's apartment, saying she was "feeling great" and waving at the crowd, per the Associated Press.
Whether Clinton likes it or not, her "overheating" episode comes at a very bad time for her campaign. Thanks to the likes of Rudy Giuliani and a small but vocal element of the Republican base, talk of her health had been bubbling over the past week — triggered by a coughing episode she experienced during a Labor Day rally.
That talk was largely confined to Republicans convinced that Clinton has long been hiding some sort of serious illness. I wrote dismissively of that conspiracy theory in this space last week, noting that Clinton had been given an entirely clean bill of health by her doctors after an episode in which she fainted, suffered a concussion and then was found to have a blood clot in late 2012 and early 2013.
Coughing, I wrote, is simply not evidence enough of any sort of major illness that Clinton is assumed to be hiding. Neither, of course, is feeling "overheated." But those two things happening within six days of each other to a candidate who is 68 years old makes talk of Clinton's health no longer just the stuff of conspiracy theorists.
Whereas Clinton and her campaign could laugh off questions about her health before today, the "overheating" episode makes it almost impossible for them to do so. Not only has it come at a time when there was growing chatter — with very little evidence — that her health was a problem but it also happened at a 9/11 memorial event — an incredibly high-profile moment with lots and lots of cameras and reporters around.
Her campaign may well try to dismiss this story as nothing more than an isolated incident, meaning nothing. (Democrats were already pushing the story of George W. Bush fainting in 2002 after choking on a pretzel, via Twitter.)
But the issue is that Clinton kept reporters totally in the dark for 90 minutes after her abrupt departure from the 9/11 memorial service for a health-related matter. No reporter was allowed to follow her. (Clinton has resisted a protective pool for coverage because Donald Trump refuses to participate in one.) This is, yet again, the Clinton campaign asking everyone to just trust it. She got overheated! But she's fine now!
Clinton may well be totally fine — and I certainly hope she is. But we are 58 days away from choosing the person who will lead the country for the next four years, and she is one of the two candidates with a real chance of winning. Taking the Clinton team's word for it on her health — in light of the episode on Sunday morning — is no longer enough. Reasonable people can — and will — have real questions about her health.
I wrote this on Tuesday morning:
"The simple fact is that there is zero evidence that anything is seriously wrong with Clinton. If suffering an occasional coughing fit is evidence of a major health problem, then 75 percent of the country must have that mystery illness. And I am one of them."
Well, that is no longer operative. Context matters. A coughing episode is almost always just a coughing episode. But when coupled with Clinton's "overheating" on Sunday morning — with temperatures something short of sweltering — Clinton and her team simply need to say something about what happened (and why the press was in the dark for so long.)
And as the New York Times's Adam Nagourney tweeted on Sunday morning, now might be a good time for Clinton to release a fuller record of her medical history.
Feels like a good day for Clinton to release her medical records and call on Trump to do same
— adam nagourney (@adamnagourney) September 11, 2016
Sunday morning changed the conversation in the race about Clinton's health. Or rather it will force Clinton to have a conversation about her health in the race.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/11/hillary-clintons-health-just-became-a-real-issue-in-the-presidential-campaign/
Re: Hillary Clinton’s health just became a real issue in the presidential campaign
Posted by:
Internet Doctor
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Date: September 11, 2016 02:29PM
look at her feet in the video. they dragged her into the van. a 9/11 memorial is too much for her, so what about another 9/11 attack? she gonna be good for that? can we NOT elect a crooked corpse as our next presdent? that would be nice.
Re: Hillary Clinton’s health just became a real issue in the presidential campaign
Posted by:
This is disqualifying
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Date: September 11, 2016 02:30PM
Re: Hillary Clinton’s health just became a real issue in the presidential campaign
Posted by:
skunk
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Date: September 11, 2016 02:31PM
Rightards attacking women on their strength. Big surprise. What if she has the flu? It's 2016 people. Idiots.
Re: Hillary Clinton’s health just became a real issue in the presidential campaign
Posted by:
^ failed libtard diversion
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Date: September 11, 2016 02:34PM
skunk Wrote:
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> Rightards attacking women on their strength. Big
> surprise. What if she has the flu? It's 2016
> people. Idiots.
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> Rightards attacking women on their strength. Big
> surprise. What if she has the flu? It's 2016
> people. Idiots.
Re: Hillary Clinton’s health just became a real issue in the presidential campaign
Posted by:
H66P
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Date: September 11, 2016 02:36PM
skunk Wrote:
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> Rightards attacking women on their strength. Big
> surprise. What if she has the flu? It's 2016
> people. Idiots.
so since she's a woman we should just ignore the fact she can barely function for an hour at a time? that "flu" is not going away. this shit happens every time she comes out of hiding, which is very rare these days.
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> Rightards attacking women on their strength. Big
> surprise. What if she has the flu? It's 2016
> people. Idiots.
so since she's a woman we should just ignore the fact she can barely function for an hour at a time? that "flu" is not going away. this shit happens every time she comes out of hiding, which is very rare these days.
Re: Hillary Clinton’s health just became a real issue in the presidential campaign
Posted by:
skunk
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Date: September 11, 2016 02:38PM
H66P Wrote:
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> skunk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Rightards attacking women on their strength.
> Big
> > surprise. What if she has the flu? It's 2016
> > people. Idiots.
>
>
> so since she's a woman we should just ignore the
> fact she can barely function for an hour at a
> time? that "flu" is not going away. this shit
> happens every time she comes out of hiding, which
> is very rare these days.
Sadly for your team, it doesn't matter. She would still beat him on her death bed. Yes, he really is that bad.
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> skunk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Rightards attacking women on their strength.
> Big
> > surprise. What if she has the flu? It's 2016
> > people. Idiots.
>
>
> so since she's a woman we should just ignore the
> fact she can barely function for an hour at a
> time? that "flu" is not going away. this shit
> happens every time she comes out of hiding, which
> is very rare these days.
Sadly for your team, it doesn't matter. She would still beat him on her death bed. Yes, he really is that bad.
Re: Hillary Clinton’s health just became a real issue in the presidential campaign
Posted by:
PC retards
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Date: September 11, 2016 02:42PM
That writer was the idiot who insisted Cankles Heath was a non issue days ago. When are they finally going to learn that Trump always ends up being 100 percent correct after all the sides of an issue are considered. His IQ is off the charts.
Re: Hillary Clinton’s health just became a real issue in the presidential campaign
Posted by:
This just cost her +5 points
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Date: September 11, 2016 02:42PM
skunk Wrote:
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> H66P Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > skunk Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Rightards attacking women on their strength.
> > Big
> > > surprise. What if she has the flu? It's
> 2016
> > > people. Idiots.
> >
> >
> > so since she's a woman we should just ignore
> the
> > fact she can barely function for an hour at a
> > time? that "flu" is not going away. this shit
> > happens every time she comes out of hiding,
> which
> > is very rare these days.
>
> Sadly for your team, it doesn't matter. She would
> still beat him on her death bed. Yes, he really
> is that bad.
She was only leading by a few points as it was before this dumbass. lol
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> H66P Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > skunk Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Rightards attacking women on their strength.
> > Big
> > > surprise. What if she has the flu? It's
> 2016
> > > people. Idiots.
> >
> >
> > so since she's a woman we should just ignore
> the
> > fact she can barely function for an hour at a
> > time? that "flu" is not going away. this shit
> > happens every time she comes out of hiding,
> which
> > is very rare these days.
>
> Sadly for your team, it doesn't matter. She would
> still beat him on her death bed. Yes, he really
> is that bad.
She was only leading by a few points as it was before this dumbass. lol
Re: Hillary Clinton’s health just became a real issue in the presidential campaign
Posted by:
skunk
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Date: September 11, 2016 02:49PM
If by a few points, you mean 100, then sure. You idiots know how this works right?
http://www.270towin.com/maps/clinton-trump-electoral-map
You guys really are dumb.
http://www.270towin.com/maps/clinton-trump-electoral-map
You guys really are dumb.
Re: Hillary Clinton’s health just became a real issue in the presidential campaign
Posted by:
WTF-OVER
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Date: September 11, 2016 02:55PM
Amazing, huh. NOW the press says it's an issue. F'n presstitute sycophants.
Re: Hillary Clinton’s health just became a real issue in the presidential campaign
Posted by:
current events
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Date: September 11, 2016 03:14PM
skunk Wrote:
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> If by a few points, you mean 100, then sure. You
> idiots know how this works right?
>
> http://www.270towin.com/maps/clinton-trump-elector
> al-map
>
> You guys really are dumb.
That's a projection based on a model not actual poll results dummy. And the results that it's including in its weighting are heavily older. It's effectively an even race within margin of error at this point.
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> If by a few points, you mean 100, then sure. You
> idiots know how this works right?
>
> http://www.270towin.com/maps/clinton-trump-elector
> al-map
>
> You guys really are dumb.
That's a projection based on a model not actual poll results dummy. And the results that it's including in its weighting are heavily older. It's effectively an even race within margin of error at this point.
Re: Hillary Clinton’s health just became a real issue in the presidential campaign
Posted by:
facts are not your friend
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Date: September 11, 2016 03:28PM
Nate Silver gives Hillary a 70% chance of winning.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo
But I'm sure you'll find some stupid reason to ignore it.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo
But I'm sure you'll find some stupid reason to ignore it.
Re: Hillary Clinton’s health just became a real issue in the presidential campaign
Posted by:
current events
()
Date: September 11, 2016 03:33PM
facts are not your friend Wrote:
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> Nate Silver gives Hillary a 70% chance of
> winning.
>
> http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-
> forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo
>
> But I'm sure you'll find some stupid reason to
> ignore it.
Uh, that's still not points in the race as I said.
And that's down significantly from the past.
But keep thinking that it will be a blowout...
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> Nate Silver gives Hillary a 70% chance of
> winning.
>
> http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-
> forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo
>
> But I'm sure you'll find some stupid reason to
> ignore it.
Uh, that's still not points in the race as I said.
And that's down significantly from the past.
But keep thinking that it will be a blowout...
Re: Hillary Clinton’s health just became a real issue in the presidential campaign
Posted by:
trump trailerpark2
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Date: September 11, 2016 03:37PM
Re: Hillary Clinton’s health just became a real issue in the presidential campaign
Posted by:
PC retards
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Date: September 11, 2016 03:40PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YMHOcmDVBP0
We all know where she was at the debate.. It's disgusting .
Attachments:
We all know where she was at the debate.. It's disgusting .
Attachments:
Re: Hillary Clinton’s health just became a real issue in the presidential campaign
Posted by:
Damning News
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Date: September 11, 2016 04:14PM
This is the biggest news story in this election cycle.
Re: Hillary Clinton’s health just became a real issue in the presidential campaign
Posted by:
Can't hide this
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Date: September 11, 2016 04:39PM