Retired Lt. General Michael Flynn, former U.S. Special Forces Commander in Iraq and Afghanistan who was the country's highest ranking military intelligence official, says that the George W. Bush administration's Iraq war was a tremendous blunder that helped to create the self-proclaimed Islamic State, or ISIS.

"It was a huge error," Flynn said about the Iraq war in a detailed interview with German newspaper Der Spiegel published Sunday.

"As brutal as Saddam Hussein was, it was a mistake to just eliminate him," Flynn went on to say. "The same is true for Moammar Gadhafi and for Libya, which is now a failed state. The historic lesson is that it was a strategic failure to go into Iraq. History will not be and should not be kind with that decision."

When told by Der Spiegel reporters Matthias Gebauer and Holger Stark that the Islamic State would not "be where it is now without the fall of Baghdad," Flynn, without reservations, said: "Yes, absolutely."

Flynn, who served in the U.S. Army for more than 30 years and was former commander of special forces in Afghanistan and Iraq, also said that the American military response following 9/11 was not well thought-out at all and based on significant misunderstandings.

"When 9/11 occurred, all the emotions took over, and our response was, 'Where did those bastards come from? Let's go kill them. Let's go get them,'" he said.

Instead of determining why the U.S. was attacked by terrorists, Flynn said, the Bush administration was looking at where the terrorists came from and locations to attack.

"Then," Flynn said, "Bush, Cheney, & Rumsfeld strategically marched in the wrong direction."
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That's what happens when you go in countries and destabilize them.

Even Trump figured that out.

Trump is destabilizing this country.

Republicans are shitting their pants and the rest of us are rolling on the floor laughing our asses off.

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> Trump is destabilizing this country.
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> Republicans are shitting their pants and the rest
> of us are rolling on the floor laughing our asses
> off.

Trump is more of great reality TV show than a serious candidate. Republicans are voting for him in polls because he is very entertaining.

The GOP won't win so just have some fun watching Trump.

George Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld must be shitting themselves over this 3 Star Special Ops General telling the truth.

To be forever remembered in history as the bumbling morons who created ISIS - pretty choice legacy!

you know, jewmedia tv here in usa never reoprts ISIS being mad at USA for "cartoons"

we ride the shit out of arabs in cartoons and porn and moreso: blogs ... as we do everyone

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what does that tell you about "the 15 participators in preventing arab uprising" (rather, arab violent border overflows)

they aren't truthful about what the bombs are for, they aren't giving you "the real translation"

it's that simple: these people these "unionized self pay setting mc'mansion gov types" never told the truth in their lives

i've notice you all seemingly "completely beleiving france is being continually terrorized / bombed" due to a cartoonist

but when OBAMA blamed "been gauze-ee" "on some california porn videos"

you all called it a total lie because hillory was who cited it (or condolecent rice on that morning show)

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when are you goign to put your mind to it and think: wow - maybe they never told me why 911 happened either?

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> George Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld must
> be shitting themselves over this 3 Star Special
> Ops General telling the truth.
>
> To be forever remembered in history as the
> bumbling morons who created ISIS - pretty choice
> legacy!


wonder if Obama feels bad about creating the failed state of Libya... haha, no I don't. that narcissistic ego-maniac isn't capable of feeling anything but self gratification.

Can you hit me in the ass with the Benghazi strap on please.

I mean with enthusiasm and the full stroke!

The last 9 times didn't quite do it.

I need to feel something that moves me.

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> wonder if Obama feels bad about creating the
> failed state of Libya... haha, no I don't. that
> narcissistic ego-maniac isn't capable of feeling
> anything but self gratification.


Thread's about Bush, and THIS shithead wants to talk about Obama!
Neocontardz! LOL!

"As brutal as Saddam Hussein was, it was a mistake to just eliminate him," Flynn went on to say. "The same is true for Moammar Gadhafi and for Libya, which is now a failed state"

helps to read the article some times dorkwad.

libs gonna tard... lol

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> "As brutal as Saddam Hussein was, it was a mistake
> to just eliminate him," Flynn went on to say. "The
> same is true for Moammar Gadhafi and for Libya,
> which is now a failed state"
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> helps to read the article some times dorkwad.
>
> libs gonna tard... lol

Pulls out ONE sentence in attempt to make point! Stick to defending Denny Hastert!

so I guess that makes it ok for Obama to turn Libya into a failed state where millions can suffer, terrorists can train and our ambassador can be murdered because of a video due to Obama's incompetence. guess I missed the part in the story aboyt hastert

tard much?

Republicans are like taking a shit on everything. Thats what they are.

They get so butthurt if anyone says anything bad about our Iraq debacle.

Iraq is a mess. So is Libya. that's what the 3 star general said. both have led to massive human suffering and have provided huge opportunities for terrorist organizations now and in the future. bush is a moron. and Obama is....

i'll let you libtards ponder that one. lol

Retired Lt. General Michael Flynn AKA Retired. All that needs to be said. Move On.

Never Run Out of Ammo

Guns Don't Kill People. People Kill People

Them or You

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tardlibian Wrote:
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> Iraq is a mess. So is Libya. that's what the 3
> star general said. both have led to massive human
> suffering and have provided huge opportunities for
> terrorist organizations now and in the future.
> bush is a moron. and Obama is....
>
> i'll let you libtards ponder that one. lol


Neocontardz! LOLZ!

don't worry. I won't force you to admit your hero is an incompetent moron. lets just blame it all on a video. ;)

libyatards... lol

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> don't worry. I won't force you to admit your hero
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>
> libyatards... lol


Three Americans die in Libya and this is a big deal? Grow up.

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> Retired Lt. General Michael Flynn AKA Retired.
> All that needs to be said. Move On.

3 Star Special OPs General is ALL that needs to be said - and you can call him Sir - he's earned it.

What was your MOS again? POS!

Shouldn't you be forward deployed to somebody else's hog farm playing soldier in the woods with your toy guns you poser.

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> > Retired Lt. General Michael Flynn AKA Retired.
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> > All that needs to be said. Move On.
>
> 3 Star Special OPs General is ALL that needs to be
> said - and you can call him Sir - he's earned it.
>
> What was your MOS again? POS!
>
> Shouldn't you be forward deployed to somebody
> else's hog farm playing soldier in the woods with
> your toy guns you poser.


Gunlover is an expert at "call of duty". He said so.

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> > don't worry. I won't force you to admit your
> hero
> > is an incompetent moron. lets just blame it
> all
> > on a video. ;)
> >
> > libyatards... lol
>
>
> Three Americans die in Libya and this is a big
> deal? Grow up.


then theres the failed state your obobo boy turned Libya into, which led directly to the deaths of those 3 4 Americans because of a video by islamic jihadists.

libyatards... lol

Right, the fact that they were working in a clandestine site had NOTHING to do with it.

I lean republican on some things and I agree Iraq was a bad mistake, brought on at least partially by the fact that GWB wanted back at Hussein for trying to kill his Dad.

The US keeping doing this stupid shit all the time. Look at Vietnam, Korea etc...

The focus should of been on getting the direct threat that was Bin Laden not invading countries for oil and vengeance.

Bin Laden's plan was to drag the US into conflicts in the middle east so he and his klan men could raid towns, rape women and loot towns. Bush played right into that game.

Bush clearly went into Iraq on sham WMD hunt to take out Saddam and steal oil for his Texas and defense contractor buddies.

Dick Cheney also got payback all his Haliburton and "Blackwater" buddies with "no bid" hurry contracts.

Libya becomes latest ISIL stronghold

Jim Michaels, USA TODAY 8:02 p.m. EST November 30, 2015


WASHINGTON — Islamic State militants are establishing a dangerous foothold in Libya as the terror network comes under increasing pressure from the U.S.-led military coalition in Iraq and Syria.

The militants are taking advantage of the chaos that grew after Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi was ousted and killed in a 2011 revolution as well as a declining Western presence in the country.

U.S. plans to help rebuild Libya after Gadhafi largely fell to the wayside amid growing violence and the 2012 terror attack on the U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.

The Islamic State, also known as ISIL or ISIS, has taken up residence in the coastal city of Sirte and is attempting to expand its influence in Libya.

“The worrisome thing is if ISIS central decides to pivot and pour more resources in, it could be worse," said Frederic Wehrey, an analyst at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. The militants seem to be pressing south and east of Sirte to control oil facilities in the area, he said.

“Libya is probably right now the most significant threat to becoming a full-blown sanctuary” for the Islamic State, said Patrick Johnston, a counterterrorism analyst at RAND Corp.

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> > Libyatard Wrote:
> >
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> > > don't worry. I won't force you to admit your
> > hero
> > > is an incompetent moron. lets just blame it
> > all
> > > on a video. ;)
> > >
> > > libyatards... lol
> >
> >
> > Three Americans die in Libya and this is a big
> > deal? Grow up.
>
>
> then theres the failed state your obobo boy turned
> Libya into, which led directly to the deaths of
> those 3 4 Americans because of a
> video by islamic jihadists.
>
> libyatards... lol

Four Americans die and this is a big deal? Grow the fuck up.
We all die one way or another. You bury the deceased and move on. One day it will be your turn.
Have a nice day:)

so true! 4 dead amerikans, ain't no thang. we destabilized Libya, so what? we didn't steal their oil. we let the frenchies take it. lead from behind folks! isis can set up shop there if they want, but we're keeping them contained. that's just the jv team. they hate us because we let the climate change. can you blame them?

How does ISIS keep all of our military equipment running? Obama loves those guys, he warns them before airstrikes, and he is trying to help them escape the wrath of Putin by bringing them here as fast as he can.

don't worry. if isis becomes a "problem" we will just adjust the intelligence to say "no problem". sounds crazy but its been working so far!

Big time. ISIS is the result of every fucking policy decision they made during that war. One without and it wouldnt have happened.

Invasion, torture, abu gharaib, shiite rule, camp Bucca.

Lol they threw 30,000 extremists with all others they rounded up in a tent city prison in Camp Bucca and let the hardliners do as they pleased.

The trained disbanded Bathist Army and and Baghdadi started an army in Bush/Rumsfields American custody.

It doesnt end there its sick. Before we invaded Iraq had one of the strongest armies in the world and the highest PHDs per capita in the world.

All that knowledge and institution was broken up and literally force funneled into insurgency and terrorism.

Republican foriegn policy is clueless disaster rat bastard idiocy.



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ISIS is caused by Climate Change. Get it through your thick skull you flat-earth science deniers!

And you got these dumb asses on this forum that think its mighty white of them to support reckless destruction.

Then theyre scared too like little bitches when thier policies have blow back.

Theyre the toughest little bitches ive ever seen.

FunLover Wrote:
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> Gunlover Wrote:
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> > Retired Lt. General Michael Flynn AKA Retired.
>
> > All that needs to be said. Move On.
>
> 3 Star Special OPs General is ALL that needs to be
> said - and you can call him Sir - he's earned it.
>
> What was your MOS again? POS!
>
> Shouldn't you be forward deployed to somebody
> else's hog farm playing soldier in the woods with
> your toy guns you poser.

What wrong with hog?

Never Run Out of Ammo

Guns Don't Kill People. People Kill People

Them or You

The two most important days in your life are the day your were born and and the day you find out why