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Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
GroundPounder
()
Date: April 14, 2009 05:11PM
Legion to DHS: Americans are not the enemy!
By Marine64
Created Apr 14 2009 - 1:05pm
American Legion National Commander David K. Rehbein sent Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano a letter of protest concerning a recent report by the Department of Homeland Security which suggested veterans were more likely to commit terrorist acts than nonveterans. The letter is below.
Secretary Janet Napolitano
Department of Homeland Security
U.S. Department of Homeland Security
Washington, DC 20528
April 13, 2009
Dear Secretary Napolitano,
On behalf of the 2.6 million-member American Legion, I am stating my concern about your April 7 report, "Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence and Recruitment."
First, I want to assure you that The American Legion has long shared your concern about white supremacist and anti-government groups. In 1923, when the Ku Klux Klan still yielded unspeakable influence in this country, The American Legion passed Resolution 407. It resolved, in part, "...we consider any individual, group of individuals or organizations, which creates, or fosters racial, religious or class strife among our people, or which takes into their own hands the enforcement of law, determination of guilt, or infliction of punishment, to be un-American, a menace to our liberties, and destructive to our fundamental law..."
The best that I can say about your recent report is that it is incomplete. The report states, without any statistical evidence, "The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks."
The American Legion is well aware and horrified at the pain inflicted during the Oklahoma City bombing, but Timothy McVeigh was only one of more than 42 million veterans who have worn this nation's uniform during wartime. To continue to use McVeigh as an example of the stereotypical "disgruntled military veteran" is as unfair as using Osama bin Laden as the sole example of Islam.
Your report states that "Rightwing extremists were concerned during the 1990s with the perception that illegal immigrants were taking away American jobs through their willingness to work at significantly lower wages." Secretary Napolitano, this is more than a perception to those who have lost their job. Would you categorize union members as "Right Wing extremists"?
In spite of this incomplete, and, I fear, politically-biased report, The American Legion and the Department of Homeland Security share many common and crucial interests, such as the Citizen Corps and disaster preparedness. Since you are a graduate of New Mexico Girls State, I trust that you are very familiar with The American Legion. I would be happy to meet with you at a time of mutual convenience to discuss issues such as border security and the war on terrorism. I think it is important for all of us to remember that Americans are not the enemy. The terrorists are.
Sincerely,
David K. Rehbein
National Commander
The American Legion
[1]
Source URL: http://ourvoice.legion.org/story/1543/legion-dhs-americans-are-not-enemy
Links:
[1] http://ourvoice.legion.org/files/story-img/hires_090407-F-0681L-051b.jpg
By Marine64
Created Apr 14 2009 - 1:05pm
American Legion National Commander David K. Rehbein sent Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano a letter of protest concerning a recent report by the Department of Homeland Security which suggested veterans were more likely to commit terrorist acts than nonveterans. The letter is below.
Secretary Janet Napolitano
Department of Homeland Security
U.S. Department of Homeland Security
Washington, DC 20528
April 13, 2009
Dear Secretary Napolitano,
On behalf of the 2.6 million-member American Legion, I am stating my concern about your April 7 report, "Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence and Recruitment."
First, I want to assure you that The American Legion has long shared your concern about white supremacist and anti-government groups. In 1923, when the Ku Klux Klan still yielded unspeakable influence in this country, The American Legion passed Resolution 407. It resolved, in part, "...we consider any individual, group of individuals or organizations, which creates, or fosters racial, religious or class strife among our people, or which takes into their own hands the enforcement of law, determination of guilt, or infliction of punishment, to be un-American, a menace to our liberties, and destructive to our fundamental law..."
The best that I can say about your recent report is that it is incomplete. The report states, without any statistical evidence, "The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks."
The American Legion is well aware and horrified at the pain inflicted during the Oklahoma City bombing, but Timothy McVeigh was only one of more than 42 million veterans who have worn this nation's uniform during wartime. To continue to use McVeigh as an example of the stereotypical "disgruntled military veteran" is as unfair as using Osama bin Laden as the sole example of Islam.
Your report states that "Rightwing extremists were concerned during the 1990s with the perception that illegal immigrants were taking away American jobs through their willingness to work at significantly lower wages." Secretary Napolitano, this is more than a perception to those who have lost their job. Would you categorize union members as "Right Wing extremists"?
In spite of this incomplete, and, I fear, politically-biased report, The American Legion and the Department of Homeland Security share many common and crucial interests, such as the Citizen Corps and disaster preparedness. Since you are a graduate of New Mexico Girls State, I trust that you are very familiar with The American Legion. I would be happy to meet with you at a time of mutual convenience to discuss issues such as border security and the war on terrorism. I think it is important for all of us to remember that Americans are not the enemy. The terrorists are.
Sincerely,
David K. Rehbein
National Commander
The American Legion
[1]
Source URL: http://ourvoice.legion.org/story/1543/legion-dhs-americans-are-not-enemy
Links:
[1] http://ourvoice.legion.org/files/story-img/hires_090407-F-0681L-051b.jpg
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
True Colors Showing
()
Date: April 14, 2009 05:17PM
Actually, the 55 million people that did not vote for Obama could be considered a danger to the current administration.
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
Francios Haringer
()
Date: April 14, 2009 05:18PM
GroundPounder,
That is by far the worst name you could ever pick. EVER. Need I say it?
Attachments:
That is by far the worst name you could ever pick. EVER. Need I say it?
Attachments:
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
Bill AyerHead
()
Date: April 14, 2009 05:21PM
No mention of Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground? A true terrorist.
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
Patty Hearst
()
Date: April 14, 2009 06:58PM
Bill AyerHead Wrote:
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> No mention of Bill Ayers and the Weather
> Underground? A true terrorist.
Bill Ayers is an adviser to Janet Napolitano.
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> No mention of Bill Ayers and the Weather
> Underground? A true terrorist.
Bill Ayers is an adviser to Janet Napolitano.
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
spunky
()
Date: April 14, 2009 07:57PM
Well, I guess I shouldn't feel alone now?
Well Folks, you thought it was funny when I described harassment...think about it now hitting home.
This is insane, crazy and totally un-American. Seriously, wrapped your mind around this concept. At this rate, no one is safe...well it seems illegal immigrants are safe. Imagine this being the state of affairs in the not so distant future, immigrants obtaining control over Americans. Immigrants are much happier with the status quo and they will never rock the boat as long as they gain amnesty into our country.
Americans are more intelligent to current events and their affects on their freedom then immigrants...so we become a large threat to the status quo.
Our government doesn't like or want us to be intelligent or think, that's why for years the middle class has been attacked and forced to keep their nose to the grind-stone...a distraction?
Think about it, seriously.
If veterans are now a threat, consider what real terrorist must think of us, if our govt. feels veterans are a threat.
This out-of-control govt. we have now is one big reason we will never see great leaders as Franklin, Jefferson, etc., because our govt. has become toxic.
If this is the way to treat Veterans, then everyone of them should leave Iraq, Afghanistan, S.Korea, and all around the world at once, go AWOL. This is stinky thinking' and it's creating stinky problems.
The veterans aren't paid nearly enough for what they do and sacrifice, in addition to their families. I can understand the PTSD some return with and their suicides, it's almost impossible for any healthy relationship to endure these 3,4,5 tours of duty, and this is just one of the issues soldiers deal.
If this is a concern about the military hiring criminals, possibly terrorist, then this is a policy issue of the govt.?
Or, maybe the govt. is afraid of what the military has wised up too?
Since a Navy BOQ in CA is in the shape of a swasticker (yes I know mispelled but you get the idea) maybe this is another fear? Although they are now re-modeling the BOQ to change it's shape, you know this wasn't a mistake in the first place. But it's just possible that the design was more efficient then the concern over an emblem. Think about all the money put out on remodeling, you can't remodel people, just like you can't fight terrorism...it's a mind-set, a thought process which can only be fought through observing honest and good actions, fighting the GOOD fight. Maybe our govt., knows a lot more then we do?
Well Folks, you thought it was funny when I described harassment...think about it now hitting home.
This is insane, crazy and totally un-American. Seriously, wrapped your mind around this concept. At this rate, no one is safe...well it seems illegal immigrants are safe. Imagine this being the state of affairs in the not so distant future, immigrants obtaining control over Americans. Immigrants are much happier with the status quo and they will never rock the boat as long as they gain amnesty into our country.
Americans are more intelligent to current events and their affects on their freedom then immigrants...so we become a large threat to the status quo.
Our government doesn't like or want us to be intelligent or think, that's why for years the middle class has been attacked and forced to keep their nose to the grind-stone...a distraction?
Think about it, seriously.
If veterans are now a threat, consider what real terrorist must think of us, if our govt. feels veterans are a threat.
This out-of-control govt. we have now is one big reason we will never see great leaders as Franklin, Jefferson, etc., because our govt. has become toxic.
If this is the way to treat Veterans, then everyone of them should leave Iraq, Afghanistan, S.Korea, and all around the world at once, go AWOL. This is stinky thinking' and it's creating stinky problems.
The veterans aren't paid nearly enough for what they do and sacrifice, in addition to their families. I can understand the PTSD some return with and their suicides, it's almost impossible for any healthy relationship to endure these 3,4,5 tours of duty, and this is just one of the issues soldiers deal.
If this is a concern about the military hiring criminals, possibly terrorist, then this is a policy issue of the govt.?
Or, maybe the govt. is afraid of what the military has wised up too?
Since a Navy BOQ in CA is in the shape of a swasticker (yes I know mispelled but you get the idea) maybe this is another fear? Although they are now re-modeling the BOQ to change it's shape, you know this wasn't a mistake in the first place. But it's just possible that the design was more efficient then the concern over an emblem. Think about all the money put out on remodeling, you can't remodel people, just like you can't fight terrorism...it's a mind-set, a thought process which can only be fought through observing honest and good actions, fighting the GOOD fight. Maybe our govt., knows a lot more then we do?
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
Vince(1)
()
Date: April 14, 2009 09:21PM
True Colors Showing Wrote:
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> Actually, the 55 million people that did not vote
> for Obama could be considered a danger to the
> current administration.
oh really...please explain how
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> Actually, the 55 million people that did not vote
> for Obama could be considered a danger to the
> current administration.
oh really...please explain how
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
spunky
()
Date: April 14, 2009 09:46PM
Vince(1) Wrote:
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> True Colors Showing Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Actually, the 55 million people that did not
> vote
> > for Obama could be considered a danger to the
> > current administration.
>
>
> oh really...please explain how
Are you saying Republikans are afraid of Demokrats? Or, are you saying the 55mil
are KKK? Or, are you saying 55 mil want to destroy and then control Amerika?
Or, are you saying there are 55mil crazy, egotist running lose in Amerika?
Communication is so important, don't you think?
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> True Colors Showing Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Actually, the 55 million people that did not
> vote
> > for Obama could be considered a danger to the
> > current administration.
>
>
> oh really...please explain how
Are you saying Republikans are afraid of Demokrats? Or, are you saying the 55mil
are KKK? Or, are you saying 55 mil want to destroy and then control Amerika?
Or, are you saying there are 55mil crazy, egotist running lose in Amerika?
Communication is so important, don't you think?
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
Gravis
()
Date: April 14, 2009 11:44PM
Vince(1) Wrote:
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> True Colors Showing Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Actually, the 55 million people that did not vote
> > for Obama could be considered a danger to the
> > current administration.
>
> oh really...please explain how
that's tough one... let's see... if they revolt, that would be a serious danger for the current administration. it doesnt take a majority to overthrow a government. you asked how, that is how.
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/14/2009 11:45PM by Gravis.
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> True Colors Showing Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Actually, the 55 million people that did not vote
> > for Obama could be considered a danger to the
> > current administration.
>
> oh really...please explain how
that's tough one... let's see... if they revolt, that would be a serious danger for the current administration. it doesnt take a majority to overthrow a government. you asked how, that is how.
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/14/2009 11:45PM by Gravis.
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
Ok
()
Date: April 15, 2009 07:35PM
Obama sucks
Hope you all are happy with your
Tax increases
He's a fraud not
a USA citizen
Www obamafiles.com
Www.obamacrimes.com
Let's bail everyone out so our kids
Can suffer later
Hope you all are happy with your
Tax increases
He's a fraud not
a USA citizen
Www obamafiles.com
Www.obamacrimes.com
Let's bail everyone out so our kids
Can suffer later
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
Oh Sh*t
()
Date: April 15, 2009 07:49PM
Oh!
Attachments:
Attachments:
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
Take a Stand
()
Date: April 15, 2009 08:41PM
Wow.. you all have really lost your mind.
It said nothing about all 55mil people who voted Republicans. But instead you hear only what you want, or just make up the rest.
It stated that there is a possibility that violent fringe right wing groups (aka crazies) may attempt to recruit military veterans from current foreign wars
That seems a reasonable possible threat. Since the veterans are trained in things any fringe group of crazies would be after..not just the right wing nut jobs either. Due to hardships in battle and economy being harder on recent veterans, making them a possible target for recruitment.
How about Timothy McVeigh or Kaczynski (Unabomber). Which party did they affiliate themselves with? McVeigh/republican/ ex-military, Kaczynski/Christian-anarchist
One flaw in that plan could be that many veterans of the two current wars are fairly displeased with the way the republicans have been handling the wars and less apt to go to a bunch crazies supporting the ideas of even farther-right hate groups.
The report warning isn't biased, That just the way it works, if one party is in power, I would think it is less likely the real threatening groups would come from the party in power. If it was Republicans in office and this report came out, do you think they would be talking about fringe left wing nut jobs recruiting people to kill the president or blow shit up.
Is the blowing up of Federal buildings (Oklahoma) and Blowing up 26 random people ( Unabomber) solely the jurisdiction or the radical right, No it is not, there are crazies everywhere!
So where (specifically) is all this false outrage coming from about this. It sounds like someone has been watching too much Fox News.
It said nothing about all 55mil people who voted Republicans. But instead you hear only what you want, or just make up the rest.
It stated that there is a possibility that violent fringe right wing groups (aka crazies) may attempt to recruit military veterans from current foreign wars
That seems a reasonable possible threat. Since the veterans are trained in things any fringe group of crazies would be after..not just the right wing nut jobs either. Due to hardships in battle and economy being harder on recent veterans, making them a possible target for recruitment.
How about Timothy McVeigh or Kaczynski (Unabomber). Which party did they affiliate themselves with? McVeigh/republican/ ex-military, Kaczynski/Christian-anarchist
One flaw in that plan could be that many veterans of the two current wars are fairly displeased with the way the republicans have been handling the wars and less apt to go to a bunch crazies supporting the ideas of even farther-right hate groups.
The report warning isn't biased, That just the way it works, if one party is in power, I would think it is less likely the real threatening groups would come from the party in power. If it was Republicans in office and this report came out, do you think they would be talking about fringe left wing nut jobs recruiting people to kill the president or blow shit up.
Is the blowing up of Federal buildings (Oklahoma) and Blowing up 26 random people ( Unabomber) solely the jurisdiction or the radical right, No it is not, there are crazies everywhere!
So where (specifically) is all this false outrage coming from about this. It sounds like someone has been watching too much Fox News.
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
spunky
()
Date: April 15, 2009 09:27PM
I don't watch Fox, it's totally biased.
The rallies today around the Nation has been said by Congress that to be an organized Republican effort. But I believe these "Tea Parties" held today, April 15th, is an indication of a much bigger movement.
What do you believe?
The rallies today around the Nation has been said by Congress that to be an organized Republican effort. But I believe these "Tea Parties" held today, April 15th, is an indication of a much bigger movement.
What do you believe?
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
Take a Stand
()
Date: April 15, 2009 09:32PM
spunky Wrote:
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> I don't watch Fox, it's totally biased.
>
> The rallies today around the Nation has been said
> by Congress that to be an organized Republican
> effort. But I believe these "Tea Parties" held
> today, April 15th, is an indication of a much
> bigger movement.
>
> What do you believe?
I believe you should check to see if your 'thought' in relevant to the thread you are posting in. Or is it that you dont have a point and decided to change the topic.
Let me point out the title of this thread
"Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others."
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> I don't watch Fox, it's totally biased.
>
> The rallies today around the Nation has been said
> by Congress that to be an organized Republican
> effort. But I believe these "Tea Parties" held
> today, April 15th, is an indication of a much
> bigger movement.
>
> What do you believe?
I believe you should check to see if your 'thought' in relevant to the thread you are posting in. Or is it that you dont have a point and decided to change the topic.
Let me point out the title of this thread
"Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others."
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
spunky
()
Date: April 15, 2009 10:55PM
Take a Stand Wrote:
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> spunky Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I don't watch Fox, it's totally biased.
> >
> > The rallies today around the Nation has been
> said
> > by Congress that to be an organized Republican
> > effort. But I believe these "Tea Parties" held
> > today, April 15th, is an indication of a much
> > bigger movement.
> >
> > What do you believe?
>
>
> I believe you should check to see if your
> 'thought' in relevant to the thread you are
> posting in. Or is it that you dont have a point
> and decided to change the topic.
> Let me point out the title of this thread
> "Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others."
Yes, my thought IS relevant, broaden your mind, don't wear blinders.
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> spunky Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I don't watch Fox, it's totally biased.
> >
> > The rallies today around the Nation has been
> said
> > by Congress that to be an organized Republican
> > effort. But I believe these "Tea Parties" held
> > today, April 15th, is an indication of a much
> > bigger movement.
> >
> > What do you believe?
>
>
> I believe you should check to see if your
> 'thought' in relevant to the thread you are
> posting in. Or is it that you dont have a point
> and decided to change the topic.
> Let me point out the title of this thread
> "Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others."
Yes, my thought IS relevant, broaden your mind, don't wear blinders.
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
Gravis
()
Date: April 15, 2009 11:14PM
spunky Wrote:
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> Yes, my thought IS relevant, broaden your mind,
> don't wear blinders.
thoughts of people with a grasp on reality are relevant, yours are not.
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
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> Yes, my thought IS relevant, broaden your mind,
> don't wear blinders.
thoughts of people with a grasp on reality are relevant, yours are not.
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
Lopter
()
Date: April 15, 2009 11:28PM
My friend you have this wrong. McCain is the person US Vet's hate the most!
He destroyed the GI bill, wouldn't release POW information, and back stabbed several Vet's.
He destroyed the GI bill, wouldn't release POW information, and back stabbed several Vet's.
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
Lopter
()
Date: April 15, 2009 11:30PM
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
spunky
()
Date: April 16, 2009 12:16AM
Gravis Wrote:
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> spunky Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yes, my thought IS relevant, broaden your mind,
> > don't wear blinders.
>
> thoughts of people with a grasp on reality are
> relevant, yours are not.
Oh, blow it out your shorts panty-waist and grow a pair. My grasp on reality is stronger then yours...jealous?
No, you just love me so much you are grasping for the only thing you don't get enough of...attention! Poor boy, ask your mama to bake you some cookies, you could use some sweetness now.
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> spunky Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yes, my thought IS relevant, broaden your mind,
> > don't wear blinders.
>
> thoughts of people with a grasp on reality are
> relevant, yours are not.
Oh, blow it out your shorts panty-waist and grow a pair. My grasp on reality is stronger then yours...jealous?
No, you just love me so much you are grasping for the only thing you don't get enough of...attention! Poor boy, ask your mama to bake you some cookies, you could use some sweetness now.
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
Had Enuff
()
Date: April 16, 2009 08:38AM
Napolitano refers to vets as potential terrorists yet refuses to refer to real terrorists as terrorists. Vets risked their lives to get this kind of gratitude from their leftist governance?
Tim McVey is mentioned yet Bill Ayers (friend of Obama), the Black Panthers (Obama supporters), ACORN (Obama funded) are not included. All are examples of terrorists but friends of the left.
So are all of the citizens that attended tea parties potential terrorists? Why? Because they oppose an oppressive leftist agenda?
Keep it up Obama. An uprising is in the air.
Tim McVey is mentioned yet Bill Ayers (friend of Obama), the Black Panthers (Obama supporters), ACORN (Obama funded) are not included. All are examples of terrorists but friends of the left.
So are all of the citizens that attended tea parties potential terrorists? Why? Because they oppose an oppressive leftist agenda?
Keep it up Obama. An uprising is in the air.
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
trogdor!
()
Date: April 16, 2009 08:56AM
spunky Wrote:
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> I don't watch Fox, it's totally biased.
>
> The rallies today around the Nation has been said
> by Congress that to be an organized Republican
> effort. But I believe these "Tea Parties" held
> today, April 15th, is an indication of a much
> bigger movement.
>
> What do you believe?
I despise Fox, but CNNs latest COMPLETELY unfettered biased bullshit (like this moron 'reporter' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3fvNhdoc0) is just too much to swallow. I actually tried watching Fox last night...ugh. I guess I'll get my news exclusively from the web now.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/16/2009 08:59AM by trogdor!.
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> I don't watch Fox, it's totally biased.
>
> The rallies today around the Nation has been said
> by Congress that to be an organized Republican
> effort. But I believe these "Tea Parties" held
> today, April 15th, is an indication of a much
> bigger movement.
>
> What do you believe?
I despise Fox, but CNNs latest COMPLETELY unfettered biased bullshit (like this moron 'reporter' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3fvNhdoc0) is just too much to swallow. I actually tried watching Fox last night...ugh. I guess I'll get my news exclusively from the web now.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/16/2009 08:59AM by trogdor!.
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
Radiophile
()
Date: April 16, 2009 07:40PM
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
bahahah
()
Date: April 16, 2009 08:05PM
Had Enuff Wrote:
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> Napolitano refers to vets as potential terrorists
> yet refuses to refer to real terrorists as
> terrorists. Vets risked their lives to get this
> kind of gratitude from their leftist governance?
>
> Tim McVey is mentioned yet Bill Ayers (friend of
> Obama), the Black Panthers (Obama supporters),
> ACORN (Obama funded) are not included. All are
> examples of terrorists but friends of the left.
>
> So are all of the citizens that attended tea
> parties potential terrorists? Why? Because they
> oppose an oppressive leftist agenda?
>
> Keep it up Obama. An uprising is in the air.
Yep, your teabagging parties are all the rage.
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> Napolitano refers to vets as potential terrorists
> yet refuses to refer to real terrorists as
> terrorists. Vets risked their lives to get this
> kind of gratitude from their leftist governance?
>
> Tim McVey is mentioned yet Bill Ayers (friend of
> Obama), the Black Panthers (Obama supporters),
> ACORN (Obama funded) are not included. All are
> examples of terrorists but friends of the left.
>
> So are all of the citizens that attended tea
> parties potential terrorists? Why? Because they
> oppose an oppressive leftist agenda?
>
> Keep it up Obama. An uprising is in the air.
Yep, your teabagging parties are all the rage.
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
Take a Stand
()
Date: April 16, 2009 10:12PM
Alright you nit-wit,
This is bullshit, NO where did the NSB report that DHS said that veterans are potential terrorist. I see you read my post as well as you did the actual national security brief. You just browsed through it, gleaned a couple key words and starting spouting off some bull shit.
The brief stated, That that recent veterans..ah fuck it, you are not going to read this any how, so to you it said, Obama is a terrorist muslim who is eating the remains of veterans at army hospitals. Is that close enough to your reality? Jerk off!!
Had Enuff Wrote:
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> Napolitano refers to vets as potential terrorists
> yet refuses to refer to real terrorists as
> terrorists. Vets risked their lives to get this
> kind of gratitude from their leftist governance?
>
> Tim McVey is mentioned yet Bill Ayers (friend of
> Obama), the Black Panthers (Obama supporters),
> ACORN (Obama funded) are not included. All are
> examples of terrorists but friends of the left.
>
> So are all of the citizens that attended tea
> parties potential terrorists? Why? Because they
> oppose an oppressive leftist agenda?
>
> Keep it up Obama. An uprising is in the air.
This is bullshit, NO where did the NSB report that DHS said that veterans are potential terrorist. I see you read my post as well as you did the actual national security brief. You just browsed through it, gleaned a couple key words and starting spouting off some bull shit.
The brief stated, That that recent veterans..ah fuck it, you are not going to read this any how, so to you it said, Obama is a terrorist muslim who is eating the remains of veterans at army hospitals. Is that close enough to your reality? Jerk off!!
Had Enuff Wrote:
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> Napolitano refers to vets as potential terrorists
> yet refuses to refer to real terrorists as
> terrorists. Vets risked their lives to get this
> kind of gratitude from their leftist governance?
>
> Tim McVey is mentioned yet Bill Ayers (friend of
> Obama), the Black Panthers (Obama supporters),
> ACORN (Obama funded) are not included. All are
> examples of terrorists but friends of the left.
>
> So are all of the citizens that attended tea
> parties potential terrorists? Why? Because they
> oppose an oppressive leftist agenda?
>
> Keep it up Obama. An uprising is in the air.
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
RightON!
()
Date: April 17, 2009 12:25AM
Had Enuff Wrote:
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> Napolitano refers to vets as potential terrorists
> yet refuses to refer to real terrorists as
> terrorists. Vets risked their lives to get this
> kind of gratitude from their leftist governance?
>
> Tim McVey is mentioned yet Bill Ayers (friend of
> Obama), the Black Panthers (Obama supporters),
> ACORN (Obama funded) are not included. All are
> examples of terrorists but friends of the left.
>
> So are all of the citizens that attended tea
> parties potential terrorists? Why? Because they
> oppose an oppressive leftist agenda?
>
> Keep it up Obama. An uprising is in the air.
+1. Thank you! Screw these Marxist punks! God Bless America!
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> Napolitano refers to vets as potential terrorists
> yet refuses to refer to real terrorists as
> terrorists. Vets risked their lives to get this
> kind of gratitude from their leftist governance?
>
> Tim McVey is mentioned yet Bill Ayers (friend of
> Obama), the Black Panthers (Obama supporters),
> ACORN (Obama funded) are not included. All are
> examples of terrorists but friends of the left.
>
> So are all of the citizens that attended tea
> parties potential terrorists? Why? Because they
> oppose an oppressive leftist agenda?
>
> Keep it up Obama. An uprising is in the air.
+1. Thank you! Screw these Marxist punks! God Bless America!
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
Had Enuff
()
Date: April 17, 2009 07:30AM
Take a Stand Wrote:
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> Alright you nit-wit,
> This is bullshit, NO where did the NSB report that
> DHS said that veterans are potential terrorist. I
> see you read my post as well as you did the actual
> national security brief. You just browsed through
> it, gleaned a couple key words and starting
> spouting off some bull shit.
>
> The brief stated, That that recent veterans..ah
> fuck it, you are not going to read this any how,
> so to you it said, Obama is a terrorist muslim
> who is eating the remains of veterans at army
> hospitals. Is that close enough to your reality?
> Jerk off!!
>
>
OK you leftist mental giant, answer this. Why was Tim McVey mentioned but Bill Ayers was not? Both are convicted domestic terrorists. One was convicted andput to death, the other is advising Obama.
Is it that the right gets rid of the bad and the left idolizes the bad?
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> Alright you nit-wit,
> This is bullshit, NO where did the NSB report that
> DHS said that veterans are potential terrorist. I
> see you read my post as well as you did the actual
> national security brief. You just browsed through
> it, gleaned a couple key words and starting
> spouting off some bull shit.
>
> The brief stated, That that recent veterans..ah
> fuck it, you are not going to read this any how,
> so to you it said, Obama is a terrorist muslim
> who is eating the remains of veterans at army
> hospitals. Is that close enough to your reality?
> Jerk off!!
>
>
OK you leftist mental giant, answer this. Why was Tim McVey mentioned but Bill Ayers was not? Both are convicted domestic terrorists. One was convicted andput to death, the other is advising Obama.
Is it that the right gets rid of the bad and the left idolizes the bad?
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
TheMeeper
()
Date: April 17, 2009 07:45AM
Had Enuff Wrote:
>> Both are convicted domestic terrorists
Ayers was not a convicted domestic terrorist. Nor is he an advisor to the Obama administration.
It's things called "facts" that will help you answer your goofball question.
>> Both are convicted domestic terrorists
Ayers was not a convicted domestic terrorist. Nor is he an advisor to the Obama administration.
It's things called "facts" that will help you answer your goofball question.
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
Had Enuff
()
Date: April 17, 2009 07:53AM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Had Enuff Wrote:
> >> Both are convicted domestic terrorists
>
>
> Ayers was not a convicted domestic terrorist. Nor
> is he an advisor to the Obama administration.
>
> It's things called "facts" that will help you
> answer your goofball question.
Prove that he hasn't ever advised Obama. Obama started his political career with Ayers and been associated with him for years. I see them as best buddies.
WIKI---
After the Greenwich Village townhouse explosion in 1970, in which Weatherman member Ted Gold, Ayers' close friend Terry Robbins, and Ayers' girlfriend, Diana Oughton were killed when a nail bomb they were assembling exploded, Ayers and several associates evaded pursuit by U.S. law enforcement officials. Kathy Boudin and Cathy Wilkerson survived the blast. Ayers was not facing criminal charges at the time, but the federal government later filed charges against him.[3] Ayers participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, the United States Capitol building in 1971, and The Pentagon in 1972, as he noted in his 2001 book, Fugitive Days. Ayers writes:
Although the bomb that rocked the Pentagon was itsy-bitsy - weighing close to two pounds - it caused 'tens of thousands of dollars' of damage. The operation cost under $500, and no one was killed or even hurt.
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> Had Enuff Wrote:
> >> Both are convicted domestic terrorists
>
>
> Ayers was not a convicted domestic terrorist. Nor
> is he an advisor to the Obama administration.
>
> It's things called "facts" that will help you
> answer your goofball question.
Prove that he hasn't ever advised Obama. Obama started his political career with Ayers and been associated with him for years. I see them as best buddies.
WIKI---
After the Greenwich Village townhouse explosion in 1970, in which Weatherman member Ted Gold, Ayers' close friend Terry Robbins, and Ayers' girlfriend, Diana Oughton were killed when a nail bomb they were assembling exploded, Ayers and several associates evaded pursuit by U.S. law enforcement officials. Kathy Boudin and Cathy Wilkerson survived the blast. Ayers was not facing criminal charges at the time, but the federal government later filed charges against him.[3] Ayers participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, the United States Capitol building in 1971, and The Pentagon in 1972, as he noted in his 2001 book, Fugitive Days. Ayers writes:
Although the bomb that rocked the Pentagon was itsy-bitsy - weighing close to two pounds - it caused 'tens of thousands of dollars' of damage. The operation cost under $500, and no one was killed or even hurt.
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
TheMeeper
()
Date: April 17, 2009 08:05AM
>>> Prove that he hasn't ever advised Obama
LOL. That's a very stupid and illogical notion. The sort of things conspiracy theories are built on. I can't prove that convicted drug-user Rush Limbaugh never advised Obama- I guess that means it must be true!!
But believe what ever kooky nonsense you want. There are plenty of wackos out there that believe the moon landings were faked, that Bush was behind 9/11, that Sasquatch is real, etc. etc.
And quite frankly I am 100% happy that the GOP is increasingly becoming a party filled with idiot nutcases like you. I won't be satisfied until the entire American right is seen as just a bunch of ignorant, paranoid crazies like you. That is EXACTLY the kind of change I voted for.
LOL. That's a very stupid and illogical notion. The sort of things conspiracy theories are built on. I can't prove that convicted drug-user Rush Limbaugh never advised Obama- I guess that means it must be true!!
But believe what ever kooky nonsense you want. There are plenty of wackos out there that believe the moon landings were faked, that Bush was behind 9/11, that Sasquatch is real, etc. etc.
And quite frankly I am 100% happy that the GOP is increasingly becoming a party filled with idiot nutcases like you. I won't be satisfied until the entire American right is seen as just a bunch of ignorant, paranoid crazies like you. That is EXACTLY the kind of change I voted for.
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
Emphatically Emphatic
()
Date: April 17, 2009 10:26AM
+1 Meeper. And for added emphasis...
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Posted by:
Abe's Follow-Up
()
Date: April 17, 2009 10:28AM
Hey, he asked for it.
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Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
WashingTone Locian
()
Date: April 17, 2009 10:32AM
Had Enuff Wrote:
>
> Although the bomb that rocked the Pentagon was
> itsy-bitsy - weighing close to two pounds - it
> caused 'tens of thousands of dollars' of damage.
> The operation cost under $500, and no one was
> killed or even hurt.
I agree. Let's worry about a radical from the 1960s who did some protest bombing but ignore the people who are capable of this because their beliefs are more in line with Conservatives than Liberals...
>
> Although the bomb that rocked the Pentagon was
> itsy-bitsy - weighing close to two pounds - it
> caused 'tens of thousands of dollars' of damage.
> The operation cost under $500, and no one was
> killed or even hurt.
I agree. Let's worry about a radical from the 1960s who did some protest bombing but ignore the people who are capable of this because their beliefs are more in line with Conservatives than Liberals...
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
tighty righty
()
Date: April 17, 2009 11:14AM
You're so blind.
Conservatives saw the crimes of a terrorist (mcvey) and advocated his condemnation and death.
Liberals see the crime of a terrorist (ayers) and embrace him, protect him and worship him.
THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE
Conservatives saw the crimes of a terrorist (mcvey) and advocated his condemnation and death.
Liberals see the crime of a terrorist (ayers) and embrace him, protect him and worship him.
THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
TheMeeper
()
Date: April 17, 2009 11:25AM
lmao
Who the hell worships Bill Ayers??
I'm betting 99% of Americans didn't even know who he was until the loonie-bin Righties started kicking his name around.
No one really gave a shit about him during the presidential campaign, you really think people are gonna start caring now???
I got a real smile on my face right now thinking about how goddamn stupid you people are, lol
Who the hell worships Bill Ayers??
I'm betting 99% of Americans didn't even know who he was until the loonie-bin Righties started kicking his name around.
No one really gave a shit about him during the presidential campaign, you really think people are gonna start caring now???
I got a real smile on my face right now thinking about how goddamn stupid you people are, lol
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
WashingTone Locian
()
Date: April 17, 2009 11:39AM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> lmao
>
> Who the hell worships Bill Ayers??
>
> I'm betting 99% of Americans didn't even know who
> he was until the loonie-bin Righties started
> kicking his name around.
>
> No one really gave a shit about him during the
> presidential campaign, you really think people are
> gonna start caring now???
>
> I got a real smile on my face right now thinking
> about how goddamn stupid you people are, lol
TheMeeper-
You have to excuse the Republicans. The fact they are bringing up Ayers again and talking about secession can lead to only one conclusion about the Republicans...
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> lmao
>
> Who the hell worships Bill Ayers??
>
> I'm betting 99% of Americans didn't even know who
> he was until the loonie-bin Righties started
> kicking his name around.
>
> No one really gave a shit about him during the
> presidential campaign, you really think people are
> gonna start caring now???
>
> I got a real smile on my face right now thinking
> about how goddamn stupid you people are, lol
TheMeeper-
You have to excuse the Republicans. The fact they are bringing up Ayers again and talking about secession can lead to only one conclusion about the Republicans...
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
TheMeeper
()
Date: April 17, 2009 12:05PM
LOL I mean seriously.... at this point it's idiotic.
Today's GOP- the party of dead horse beaters!
WashingTone Locian Wrote:
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>
> TheMeeper-
>
> You have to excuse the Republicans. The fact they
> are bringing up Ayers again and talking about
> secession can lead to only one conclusion about
> the Republicans...
>
>
Today's GOP- the party of dead horse beaters!
WashingTone Locian Wrote:
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>
> TheMeeper-
>
> You have to excuse the Republicans. The fact they
> are bringing up Ayers again and talking about
> secession can lead to only one conclusion about
> the Republicans...
>
>
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
GOP. Git Er Done? Nope, Done.
()
Date: April 17, 2009 03:15PM
Today's GOP, irrelevant and void of new ideas. It's like watching Saturday Night Live without having to go to New York.
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Posted by:
Radiophile
()
Date: April 17, 2009 09:47PM
Ahem, theses reports take time to write and the report was commisioned and most of it written durring hte Bush administration.
Would the right wingers spend 30 seconds to find out the truth rather than jump to conclussions?
Oh wait, they cant.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/17/2009 09:48PM by Radiophile.
Would the right wingers spend 30 seconds to find out the truth rather than jump to conclussions?
Oh wait, they cant.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/17/2009 09:48PM by Radiophile.
Re: Obama/Napolitano Afraid of Veterans & others.
Posted by:
lulzscared
()
Date: April 18, 2009 08:53AM
Now why would the federal government view veterans a threat? Its not like they've been slowly circumventing a document that they swore an oath to defend or anything.