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Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Master of Reality... ()
Date: January 21, 2015 04:40PM

From that reichtwing CNN:

"House Speaker John Boehner announced Wednesday he is inviting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to address Congress next month about the threat from Iran, in a sharp rebuke to President Obama"

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: January 21, 2015 04:42PM

Republicans are traitors, using foreign leaders against our president. They should be hung publicly for treason.

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: "treason".. you keep using ()
Date: January 21, 2015 04:44PM

that word...

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: UKENv ()
Date: January 21, 2015 04:46PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Republicans are traitors, using foreign leaders
> against our president. They should be hung
> publicly for treason.


You realize that there's enough support among Dems for conditional sanctions against Iran (which is what this relates to) right?

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: McCain Replay ()
Date: January 21, 2015 04:51PM

Oh god, here we go again. Republicans trying to do foreign diplomacy.

I see a repeat of McCain's trip to Syria and Egypt. That worked out well.

Because if republicans can't fuck the US they'll fuck foreign shit.

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: January 21, 2015 04:51PM

Sell outs, cowards, corrupt cocksuckers. You're not Americans. You're turn coat pieces of shit Israeli whores.

America first, Israel is nothing but an apartheid shit stain that is at odds with everything true Americans that believe in freedom stand for.

We are the global super power, some piece of shit eastern european mongrel trash named Netanyahu doesn't dictate to America. He only dictates to Republican cowards and sell outs.

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: January 21, 2015 04:53PM

I stand with our president, not a foreign leader that is attempting to maintain an apartheid.

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: January 21, 2015 04:55PM

McCain Replay Wrote:
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> Oh god, here we go again. Republicans trying to
> do foreign diplomacy.
>
> I see a repeat of McCain's trip to Syria and
> Egypt. That worked out well.
>
> Because if republicans can't fuck the US they'll
> fuck foreign shit.

What did work out well was General al-Sisi overthrowing the Muslim Brotherhood Islamofascists who Obozo, Hillary and Susan Rice openly supported.


Abdel-Fattah-el-Sissi-008.jpg


We have a true reformer and an ally in Egypt, while Obozo is mad the Muslim Brotherhood has been deposed.


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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: TT6Yd ()
Date: January 21, 2015 04:58PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> I stand with our president, not a foreign leader
> that is attempting to maintain an apartheid.


Washington (CNN)A key Senate Democrat slammed the administration Wednesday over the state of ongoing nuclear talks with Iran, raising doubts about whether the President even has the support of his own party in pursuing diplomatic outreach with the longtime geopolitical foe.

Sen. Robert Menendez (D-New Jersey), the ranking member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, expressed deep skepticism that negotiations between six world powers, known as the P5+1, and Iran are leading to a deal that is in the interest of the U.S. and its allies.

"I have to be honest with you: The more I hear from the administration and its quotes, the more it sounds like talking points that come straight out of Tehran," said the visibly frustrated Menendez, addressing two administration witnesses at a hearing on the status of talks.

Menendez has backed a bipartisan proposal to institute new sanctions on Iran, which the president has threatened to veto.

At Wednesday's hearing, he suggested the United States is losing ground to Iran in the ongoing negotiations.

"Over the past 18 months, we have been moving closer to their positions on all key elements," said Menendez, adding that Iran's history of secretive behavior should make the administration particularly weary of any deal that does not fully dismantle its nuclear weapons program.

RELATED: Netanyahu coming to Congress next month

"After 18 months of stalling, Iran needs to know there will be consequences for failure," Menendez went on to say. "Now some of us believe those consequences should be additional sanctions."

Menendez was one of several Democrats who expressed concerns about the state of the Iran talks at Wednesday's hearing.

Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Virginia) also called Iran's motives into question, citing instances in the past when the country has misled the international community about the nature of its nuclear program as well as their involvement in "activities to destabilize governments as near as Bahrain and as far away as Morocco."

"Separate and apart from this nuclear negotiation," quipped Kaine, "Iran has engaged in activities today that should make us be skeptical about their intentions."

Still, the administration witnesses insisted that they are approaching negotiations with Iran with open eyes.

In response to similar concern voiced by Sen. Chris Coons (D-Delaware), Deputy Secretary of State Tony Blinken said the administration shared those concerns.

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Foreign Policy Magazine ()
Date: January 21, 2015 05:08PM

Democrats Criticize White House’s Iran Plan

BY JOHN HUDSON

John Hudson is a staff writer for Foreign Policy where he chases down stories from Foggy Bottom to the White House, the Pentagon to Embassy Row.

OCTOBER 21, 2014 - 10:07 PM


Demanding a bigger role in the Iran nuclear negotiations, key Democrats are beginning to openly criticize the Obama administration for its plans to avoid an immediate vote on a deal aimed at reining in Tehran’s nuclear program.

"I disagree with the administration’s reported assertion that it does not need to come to Congress at this point during negotiations with Iran," said New York’s Eliot Engel, the House Foreign Affairs Committee’s top Democrat, in a statement on Tuesday."As negotiations continue on a deal to prevent a nuclear Iran, Congress cannot be circumvented," <b>New York’s Steve Israel, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, told Foreign Policy.

At issue is the administration’s plan to temporarily suspend economic sanctions against the Islamic Republic without a vote in Congress. The administration says that Congress will have the final word in deciding whether to permanently lift the sanctions — a concession that would only happen if Tehran demonstrates compliance on a host of restrictions to its nuclear program.

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Gerry's Kids ()
Date: January 21, 2015 05:13PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> I stand with our president, not a foreign leader
> that is attempting to maintain an apartheid.


So that's what you're calling it when people try to protect themselves from bombings and killings these days?

Check the news Gerr, even with the wall nine were killed by an adherent to the religion of peace. The religion one cannot criticize at Vanderbilt University.

Imagine how much death there would be without the fence.

No need to imagine, we have data. See below.

For reference the fence was started in late 2002 and had an immediate impact. The numbers have steadily fallen as the fence nears completion.

Israeli_deaths_total.png

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: January 21, 2015 05:16PM

You guys are sell outs, cowards, you Republicans only go where the money is. Even if that means selling America to the highest bidder. Well, your leaders are cowards that should make any true American cry at the prospect of taking orders from the leader of an apartheid state.

But the rest of you on this thread, you're just mindless idiots that fall in line.

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: GerryBabble Translator ()
Date: January 21, 2015 05:18PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> You guys are sell outs, cowards, you Republicans
> only go where the money is. Even if that means
> selling America to the highest bidder. Well, your
> leaders are cowards that should make any true
> American cry at the prospect of taking orders from
> the leader of an apartheid state.
>
> But the rest of you on this thread, you're just
> mindless idiots that fall in line.


^ "I have nothing coherent to say now that you've completely shot my dumb ass down."

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: January 21, 2015 05:20PM

GerryBabble Translator Wrote:
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> Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You guys are sell outs, cowards, you
> Republicans
> > only go where the money is. Even if that means
> > selling America to the highest bidder. Well,
> your
> > leaders are cowards that should make any true
> > American cry at the prospect of taking orders
> from
> > the leader of an apartheid state.
> >
> > But the rest of you on this thread, you're just
> > mindless idiots that fall in line.
>
>
> ^ "I have nothing coherent to say now that you've
> completely shot my dumb ass down."

I said more in that one statement than any of you put together could say in an entire lifetime. The fact that you don't know the true meaning behind the words is regrettable.

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Jewh8ter2 on display... ()
Date: January 21, 2015 05:22PM

White House still fucked...

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: January 21, 2015 05:30PM

Get Ready for Dingle Barry Duck, kids! The lamest thing with webbed feet!





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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: YuwEP ()
Date: January 21, 2015 05:37PM

Gerry's going to be so butthurt when the Dems start splitting with Obama on a continual stream of bills and issues over the next two years.

Even worse when people start stiff-arming him out of their way and he's completely forgotten as the 2016 race starts up.

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Gerry's Kids ()
Date: January 21, 2015 08:03PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> You guys are sell outs, cowards, you Republicans
> only go where the money is. Even if that means
> selling America to the highest bidder. Well, your
> leaders are cowards that should make any true
> American cry at the prospect of taking orders from
> the leader of an apartheid state.
>
> But the rest of you on this thread, you're just
> mindless idiots that fall in line.


Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but the money flows the other way: as in from the US to Israel (plus Egypt and Jordan). Jeez Gerry, that one's like a no brainer. How the fuck do you screw up that one?

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: January 21, 2015 08:35PM

It flows the other way and then gets turned around to buy your own politicians with. Israel is ingenius. Thwyve figured out a way to increase their returns of our money with our own money.

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: January 21, 2015 08:44PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Sell outs, cowards, corrupt cocksuckers. You're
> not Americans. You're turn coat pieces of shit
> Israeli whores.
>
> America first, Israel is nothing but an apartheid
> shit stain that is at odds with everything true
> Americans that believe in freedom stand for.
>
> We are the global super power, some piece of shit
> eastern european mongrel trash named Netanyahu
> doesn't dictate to America.

I really have to wonder what is wrong with someone to think this way. Israel is the only modern civilized country in that region of the world.

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: dumbass libturdz ()
Date: January 21, 2015 08:48PM

Obama brought in the Mexican president to slam Arizona's constitutional immigration laws and sued Arizona.

Romney was right about Russia and Obama is Putin's little bitch.

Iran is a threat. Obama knows it but hates America more. Like all libs.

All libs can go fuck themselves. Every single lib is scum of the earth.
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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: It's all about evil. ()
Date: January 21, 2015 08:52PM

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Sell outs, cowards, corrupt cocksuckers.
> You're
> > not Americans. You're turn coat pieces of shit
> > Israeli whores.
> >
> > America first, Israel is nothing but an
> apartheid
> > shit stain that is at odds with everything true
> > Americans that believe in freedom stand for.
> >
> > We are the global super power, some piece of
> shit
> > eastern european mongrel trash named Netanyahu
> > doesn't dictate to America.
>
> I really have to wonder what is wrong with someone
> to think this way. Israel is the only modern
> civilized country in that region of the world.

Evil controls libs and especially G2. Turning against Israel is what happens. All this shit is in the bible.

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Gerry's Kids ()
Date: January 21, 2015 08:54PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> It flows the other way and then gets turned around
> to buy your own politicians with. Israel is
> ingenius. Thwyve figured out a way to increase
> their returns of our money with our own money.


What flows the other way? What money is coming from Israel back to American politicians?

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: January 21, 2015 08:55PM

No foreign country has the right to dictate America's foreign policy and interests. Jefferson warned me of such entangled so called alliances.

Israel is the main reason for our national debt.

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: True The Vote ! ()
Date: January 21, 2015 08:55PM

Gerry is mad. When Gerry was a kid they played kick the goat head at recess. Gerry was always picked last, his nickname was weak spot. Some things never change.

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: January 21, 2015 08:58PM

The crusaders will spend however many trillions it takes until we're ruined.

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: dumbass libturdz ()
Date: January 21, 2015 09:00PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> No foreign country has the right to dictate
> America's foreign policy and interests. Jefferson
> warned me of such entangled so called alliances.
>
> Israel is the main reason for our national debt.

So that's where the 7 million obamacare subscribers are!

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Gerry's Kids ()
Date: January 21, 2015 09:04PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> No foreign country has the right to dictate
> America's foreign policy and interests. Jefferson
> warned me of such entangled so called alliances.
>
> Israel is the main reason for our national debt.


Okay, now I know you're just fooling around because Israel is most certainly not the main cause of our national debt: we are. And since when did the national debt ever matter to liberals anyhow? This something new?

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: deathdealergerry ()
Date: January 21, 2015 09:07PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Sell outs, cowards, corrupt cocksuckers. You're
> not Americans. You're turn coat pieces of shit
> Israeli whores.
>
> America first, Israel is nothing but an apartheid
> shit stain that is at odds with everything true
> Americans that believe in freedom stand for.
>
> We are the global super power, some piece of shit
> eastern european mongrel trash named Netanyahu
> doesn't dictate to America. He only dictates to
> Republican cowards and sell outs.

Gerry's dream job:
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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Gerry's bruised argument ()
Date: January 21, 2015 09:07PM

dumbass libturdz Wrote:
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> Obama brought in the Mexican president to slam
> Arizona's constitutional immigration laws and sued
> Arizona.
>

Ouch. That's gonna leave a mark. lol

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: January 21, 2015 09:09PM

I don't have time to read books and watch documentaries and stay informed on news and analysis for you people. You can live in your bubble and denial and I don't really care.

I know the history of Neo Cons and AIPAC and when and how and why America was set on the warpath with the third world and how that correlates with our national debt and economic stability.

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: True The Vote ! ()
Date: January 21, 2015 09:11PM

Hey Gerry, Give us your best ALLU AKBAR or whatever you heathens shout out before you blow your dumbasses up.

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: dumbass libturdz ()
Date: January 21, 2015 09:13PM

Gerry's bruised argument Wrote:
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> dumbass libturdz Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Obama brought in the Mexican president to slam
> > Arizona's constitutional immigration laws and
> sued
> > Arizona.
> >
>
> Ouch. That's gonna leave a mark. lol


G2 doesn't care. If it hurts America, he's all in. He's a filthy Muslim.

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: January 21, 2015 09:14PM

Facts are facts and retards are retards. You can pretend these things never happened. We just ended up here without the actions of all the people responsible. But there is a historical record of all of it.

Fools deny history and are either destined to repeat it or willing to do so.

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Gerry's Kids ()
Date: January 21, 2015 09:15PM

Did someone hack Gerry's account and now making him look silly? Wingnut, Gunlover, I'm looking at you...

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: dumbass libturdz ()
Date: January 21, 2015 09:18PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Facts are facts and retards are retards. You can
> pretend these things never happened. We just ended
> up here without the actions of all the people
> responsible. But there is a historical record of
> all of it.
>
> Fools deny history and are either destined to
> repeat it or willing to do so.

Derp, derp, derp....

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Sit n' Spin ()
Date: January 21, 2015 09:21PM

Gerry's Kids Wrote:
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> Did someone hack Gerry's account and now making
> him look silly? Wingnut, Gunlover, I'm looking at
> you...


Gerry pretty much always looks silly. You can just get him all spun him up to complete fool level with any mention of Jews.

They're everywhere.

Your TV...

Building 7...

Somehow the Saudis even get worked in there together with them too at the highest levels of the Grand Conspiracy.

lulz

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Halibutthurtin ()
Date: January 21, 2015 09:25PM

It's fucking Cheney at the top of it all isn't it Gerry?

C'mon man, you can tell us.

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: January 21, 2015 09:25PM

How is pointing out who Bush's policy makers were a grand conspiracy? They even posted their Project For a New American Century on the internet for 6 years until they lost the House in 06. They weren't hiding anything. You're just oblivious to basic facts.

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: G2 is a Muslim goat fucker ()
Date: January 21, 2015 09:29PM

and that's the fact, jack!

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Halibutthurtin ()
Date: January 21, 2015 10:07PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> How is pointing out who Bush's policy makers were
> a grand conspiracy? They even posted their Project
> For a New American Century on the internet for 6
> years until they lost the House in 06. They
> weren't hiding anything. You're just oblivious to
> basic facts.


Ummm... Wouldn't posting the evil master plan kind of blow the whole conspiracy thingy?

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Gerry's Kids ()
Date: January 21, 2015 10:08PM

Halibutthurtin Wrote:
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> Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How is pointing out who Bush's policy makers
> were
> > a grand conspiracy? They even posted their
> Project
> > For a New American Century on the internet for
> 6
> > years until they lost the House in 06. They
> > weren't hiding anything. You're just oblivious
> to
> > basic facts.
>
>
> Ummm... Wouldn't posting the evil master plan kind
> of blow the whole conspiracy thingy?


In addition to facts, logic also escapes Gerry.

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: randy weaver ()
Date: November 17, 2016 06:55AM

trump that apeshit,Tear down all the tire swings mr.president then drain the swamp

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Re: Speaker of The House invites guest speaker, White House goes apeshit....
Posted by: Gerry hates Israel ()
Date: November 17, 2016 07:15AM

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Sell outs, cowards, corrupt cocksuckers.
> You're
> > not Americans. You're turn coat pieces of shit
> > Israeli whores.
> >
> > America first, Israel is nothing but an
> apartheid
> > shit stain that is at odds with everything true
> > Americans that believe in freedom stand for.
> >
> > We are the global super power, some piece of
> shit
> > eastern european mongrel trash named Netanyahu
> > doesn't dictate to America.
>
> I really have to wonder what is wrong with someone
> to think this way. Israel is the only modern
> civilized country in that region of the world.


Many Arabs Muslims share these same views.. actually just about every one of them I've ever spoke to despises israel. Gerry is Pakistani or possibly a Pakistani american, so of course he hates our country siding with Israel over anything.

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