Here is a story about capitalism and humanity at its most vile and disgusting. Orlando news station WKMG discovered that Trayvon Martin gun range targets are for sale. They tracked down the unidentified seller who said, "My main motivation was to make money off the controversy." Excuse us while we clean up the mixture of vomit and tears that just exploded on our face.

This asshat decided to print up packs of paper targets that featured a hoodie, a pack of skittles, iced tea and a target. He started advertising his product around the web, and now says that they've sold out. The original advertisement stated that the sellers "support Zimmerman and believe he is innocent and that he shot a thug."

WKMG was only able to contact the seller by email, and the person did reveal their identity, though the site keeps him anonymous.

"The response is overwhelming. I sold out in 2 days," he wrote.

Though, after he realized he was talking to a reporter he said that he would no longer sell the target.

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2012/05/trayvon_martin_gun_target_bein.php

Short stocky white hispanic guy punching bag is due out in stores soon as well.

He's not the only one looking for a Trayvon Martin payday.

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> He's not the only one looking for a Trayvon Martin
> payday.


Between the two I'll pick the target guy to clean up and the family to raise enough money for a tank of gas so the can go to the range and buy some targets.

This is the way I see gun owners so nothing new in this tasteless behavior.

It's tasteless and crude and I'm sure the idiot who came up with the ideal will cry about his Free Speech Rights being violated when the media is done raping his ass over it. Funny how guys like this and Ted Nugent claim to know the Constitution but don't understand the first thing about it.

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WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> It's tasteless and crude and I'm sure the idiot
> who came up with the ideal will cry about his Free
> Speech Rights being violated when the media is
> done raping his ass over it. Funny how guys like
> this and Ted Nugent claim to know the Constitution
> but don't understand the first thing about it.

Ted Nugent for President!

Do you get extra points for shooting the skittles and the ice tea without hitting the rest of the target?

Are pancakes selling really well these days? I thought sales were down.

Numbers Wrote:
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> Are pancakes selling really well these days? I
> thought sales were down.

They're safer to carry around after dark than Skittles...

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I think the phrase means they're selling as fast as they can be printed. In the case of pancakes, they're eaten as fast as they come off the grille.

Lester Wrote:
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> advertisement stated that the sellers "support
> Zimmerman and believe he is innocent and that he
> shot a thug."

Could be the truth. Just sayin'.

The question to ask is why are the targets selling so well. The publisher of the targets should have made a donation to the Martin fund since the parents have trademarked the name. It is a shame that BOTH are making money at the expense of a dead kid who may or may not have caused his own demise.

For people who claim Martin's parents are making money off of him, you never complain when parents of a white victim do the same, and you do not know where the funds are going, nor do you know how much they are receiving.

The reason they are seling is because many people are blatantly racist and do not care. Many of these people happen to be gun owners. Basically, they want to buy an image depicting a dead black teenager and shoot at it.

Did he fire 6 shots, or only 5?

troop is poop Wrote:
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> For people who claim Martin's parents are making
> money off of him, you never complain when parents
> of a white victim do the same, and you do not know
> where the funds are going, nor do you know how
> much they are receiving.


Parents of a white victim? We never hear of a white victim....

troop is poop Wrote:
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> For people who claim Martin's parents are making
> money off of him, you never complain when parents
> of a white victim do the same, and you do not know
> where the funds are going, nor do you know how
> much they are receiving.

Sure I do. Gross exploitation is gross exploitation.

> The reason they are seling is because many people
> are blatantly racist and do not care. Many of
> these people happen to be gun owners. Basically,
> they want to buy an image depicting a dead black
> teenager and shoot at it

So it's not racist to automatically assume Zimmerman shot Martin in cold blood?

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No it's not racist to assume Zimmerman shot him in cold blood. It's common sense. Just because you want to believe the killer, degenerate, etc. story, doesn't mean its true. If Trayvon was a white girl, you would say it was cold blood killing. Your warped perception of things is what clouds your judgement.
Answer this: If a man stalked a white girl at night while she was jogging in the rain, and ended up killing her, what would you say?

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> It's tasteless and crude and I'm sure the idiot
> who came up with the ideal will cry about his Free
> Speech Rights being violated when the media is
> done raping his ass over it. Funny how guys like
> this and Ted Nugent claim to know the Constitution
> but don't understand the first thing about it.


I dont understand what point you are trying to make here. Yes, it is tasteless and crude. How does that relate to either of the following...

1) News shows stripping the maker of his rights
2) The maker not understanding his rights

Until any part of our government passes a regulation that bans the use of silhouettes as targets, I dont see how this is even loosely related to a constitutional issue. Are you implying that it SHOULD be illegal to produce, market or sell this product?

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> No it's not racist to assume Zimmerman shot him in
> cold blood. It's common sense. Just because you
> want to believe the killer, degenerate, etc.
> story, doesn't mean its true. If Trayvon was a
> white girl, you would say it was cold blood
> killing. Your warped perception of things is what
> clouds your judgement.

My high IQ and reasoning capabilities compels me to acknowledge that neither you, me, or 99.9% of everyone weighing in on this matter is in possession of the truth. I don't know if Zimmerman shot Martin in self-defense, and you don't know if Zimmerman stalked and murdered Martin in cold blood.

> Answer this: If a man stalked a white girl at
> night while she was jogging in the rain, and ended
> up killing her, what would you say?

There's absolutely no similarity between your example and the Zimmerman/Martin case. I'm going to disregard it completely.

If Martin attacked Zimmerman for any reason and got himself shot, that's his own damn fault. If Zimmerman shot and killed the kid for no reason, he should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

"BUT FISTY FISTING FISTO, IF MARTIN ATTACKED ZIMMERMAN IT'S BECAUSE ZIMMERMAN WAS FOLLOWING HIM AND MARTIN ACTED IN SELF-DEFENSE."

Nope. Martin could have called the police, ran to the nearest house and screamed for help... any choice would have been better than "attack the guy I don't know who's following me for some reason." If I think someone's following me and I think there's even the smallest possibility that they have malicious intent, I'm calling the police immediately. I'm not going to go take a swing at the guy.

It's not racist to be reasonable and rational. Try it sometime. It'll revolutionize your world view.

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JBass Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's tasteless and crude and I'm sure the idiot
> > who came up with the ideal will cry about his
> Free
> > Speech Rights being violated when the media is
> > done raping his ass over it. Funny how guys
> like
> > this and Ted Nugent claim to know the
> Constitution
> > but don't understand the first thing about it.
>
>
> I dont understand what point you are trying to
> make here. Yes, it is tasteless and crude. How
> does that relate to either of the following...
>
> 1) News shows stripping the maker of his rights
> 2) The maker not understanding his rights
>
> Until any part of our government passes a
> regulation that bans the use of silhouettes as
> targets, I dont see how this is even loosely
> related to a constitutional issue. Are you
> implying that it SHOULD be illegal to produce,
> market or sell this product?

Objectively, this range target is racist, too. I don't remember any outrage over this and similar target sheets:



Why aren't animal lovers and PETA freaking out about this one?



Whatever fits the narrative, I guess.

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The key elements to this whole case are "judgement" and "escalation".

Personally from what I've seen/read, I think there is enough evidence to go after Zimmerman on manslaughter. The main reason is the liklihood that he confronted Trayvon, but had no badge or identifying clothing that he was neighborhood watch. I hate the politization of this case, but I think that Zimmeramn may have acted wrongly, though this can never be proven because the only other witness is dead.

"If a man stalked a white girl at night while she was jogging in the rain, and ended up killing her, what would you say?"

Retarded comparison. Trayvon may have perceived Zimmerman to be stalking him, but Zimmerman had called 911 and was acting informally as neighborhood watch. He may very well have gone about confronting Trayvon in the wrong way ( again, no badge, no uniform) and provoked resistance but he can probably prove his intentions weren't some sexual stalking of a random stranger.

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> JBass Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > It's tasteless and crude and I'm sure the
> idiot
> > > who came up with the ideal will cry about his
> > Free
> > > Speech Rights being violated when the media
> is
> > > done raping his ass over it. Funny how guys
> > like
> > > this and Ted Nugent claim to know the
> > Constitution
> > > but don't understand the first thing about
> it.
> >
> >
> > I dont understand what point you are trying to
> > make here. Yes, it is tasteless and crude.
> How
> > does that relate to either of the following...
> >
> > 1) News shows stripping the maker of his rights
> > 2) The maker not understanding his rights
> >
> > Until any part of our government passes a
> > regulation that bans the use of silhouettes as
> > targets, I dont see how this is even loosely
> > related to a constitutional issue. Are you
> > implying that it SHOULD be illegal to produce,
> > market or sell this product?
>
> Objectively, this range target is racist, too. I
> don't remember any outrage over this and similar
> target sheets:
>
>

And those are still sold all over the country. The only people really making a deal about this are media folks looking to fill time and advertising slots. It astounds me how incapable the average Joe is of separating legal issues from media outrage.

>
> Why aren't animal lovers and PETA freaking out
> about this one?
>

The animal lovers and PETA ARE outraged. They just dont sell ad space so their views are not shown to the masses.

>
>
> Whatever fits the narrative, I guess.

Or loosely translated 'Whatever fills the ad slot, I guess'

That's fucking awesome.

WingNut Wrote:
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> The key elements to this whole case are
> "judgement" and "escalation".
>
> Personally from what I've seen/read, I think there
> is enough evidence to go after Zimmerman on
> manslaughter. The main reason is the liklihood
> that he confronted Trayvon, but had no badge or
> identifying clothing that he was neighborhood
> watch. I hate the politization of this case, but I
> think that Zimmeramn may have acted wrongly,
> though this can never be proven because the only
> other witness is dead.
>
> "If a man stalked a white girl at night while she
> was jogging in the rain, and ended up killing her,
> what would you say?"
>
> Retarded comparison. Trayvon may have perceived
> Zimmerman to be stalking him, but Zimmerman had
> called 911 and was acting informally as
> neighborhood watch. He may very well have gone
> about confronting Trayvon in the wrong way (
> again, no badge, no uniform) and provoked
> resistance but he can probably prove his
> intentions weren't some sexual stalking of a
> random stranger.

Yet why did not Travonn call 911 from his cellular phone when/if he felt he was about to be attacked? That has never really arisen during this whole debacle. Lastly there was a white woman in the Sanford area that was stalked at killed. The Congesswoman with the big pink has was asked this by a couple of reporters. The reporters asked the congress woman the name of the white girl. She could not.

@ Troop-

I think Zimmermans intentions were right to protect his neighborhood and the fact he called 911 is a point in his favor. Trayvon could have felt like he was being stalked, but how many stalkers call 911 for backup?

But the fact is that Trayvon was staying at the complex and had every right to be there and he ended up dead. regardless of what you think of his family and supporters, it's a shame. If Zimmerman encountered resistance, it may have been justified. Or Zimmerman may have been roughed off and was defending himself.

Shaprton, Jackson and even Obama are doing what their whore instincts tell them and exploiting this thing. Don't let their actions get in the way of getting the facts though.

idontlikebeingrightaboutshitlikethisbutiam



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WingNut Wrote:
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> @ Troop-

NOT SCREAMING. JUST NEED CAPS TO DIFFERENTIATE.
>
> I think Zimmermans intentions were right to
> protect his neighborhood and the fact he called
> 911 is a point in his favor. Trayvon could have
> felt like he was being stalked, but how many
> stalkers call 911 for backup? IF MARTIN THOUGHT HE WAS BEING TARGETED OR STALKED, CALLING 911 WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY VERY PRUDENT. YET HE DID NOT. THE ONLY ONE TO ANSWER THAT IS THE DEPARTED.
>
> But the fact is that Trayvon was staying at the
> complex and had every right to be there and he
> ended up dead. regardless of what you think of his
> family and supporters, it's a shame. If Zimmerman
> encountered resistance, it may have been
> justified. Or Zimmerman may have been roughed off
> and was defending himself. TRUE.
>
> Shaprton, Jackson and even Obama are doing what
> their whore instincts tell them and exploiting
> this thing. Don't let their actions get in the way
> of getting the facts though. YEAH, FUCK THESE RACIST HACKS.

Got to get a lot of these, it will help my aim.
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Troop Wrote:
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> WingNut Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > @ Troop-
>
> NOT SCREAMING. JUST NEED CAPS TO DIFFERENTIATE.
> >
> > I think Zimmermans intentions were right to
> > protect his neighborhood and the fact he called
> > 911 is a point in his favor. Trayvon could have
> > felt like he was being stalked, but how many
> > stalkers call 911 for backup? IF MARTIN THOUGHT
> HE WAS BEING TARGETED OR STALKED, CALLING 911
> WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY VERY PRUDENT. YET HE DID NOT.
> THE ONLY ONE TO ANSWER THAT IS THE DEPARTED.
> >
> > But the fact is that Trayvon was staying at the
> > complex and had every right to be there and he
> > ended up dead. regardless of what you think of
> his
> > family and supporters, it's a shame. If
> Zimmerman
> > encountered resistance, it may have been
> > justified. Or Zimmerman may have been roughed
> off
> > and was defending himself. TRUE.
> >
> > Shaprton, Jackson and even Obama are doing what
> > their whore instincts tell them and exploiting
> > this thing. Don't let their actions get in the
> way
> > of getting the facts though. YEAH, FUCK THESE
> RACIST HACKS.


Trayvon should have called 911 himself, but if he truly felt threatened, it's instinctive to protect yourself instead of waiting for the law.

The scenario may have been-

Zimmerman follows Trayvon, Trayvon becomes annoyed "Who the fuck are you looking at" (etc).

Zimmerman doesn't really identify himself or the purpose of his "pursuit", or feels so strongly that he got the guy matching the description of past burglars. Zimmerman responds with equal beligerence- all the while thinking that HE is right and he has his man.

Trayvon and Zimmerman fight, Trayvon gets upper hand, Zimmerman shoots him dead.

Troop, I hate the way the media and all the other fucktards have racialized and politicized this whole thing. MSNBC and the whole bunch should be ashamed of themselves, because there was NO evidence of racially profiling- just a very bad thing happened to a young black kid.

I think the complex has a certain degree of liability and I think that Zimmerman probably overstepped, even if he did get his ass kicked.

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Look, all nigger traitors should be taught their place. Zimmerman is just a half-nigger, so he's alright in my book and deserves his rightful place with his head around my arm. I might make a place for his poster above my bed-side so everyday I can wake up with a smile on my face for his fine example setting.

The only reason race is involved is because had Trayvon been white, Zimmerman would have been put away or put down already. First let's get things straight-
All humans are capable of committing the same actions and because Trayvon was black, people naturally are inclined to believe Zimmerman.

If a white 17 year old, let's say 6-5, 170 (a string bean) was walking through the woods trying to get home in the dark while it was raining, and some guy in a truck follows him (first on the road, then goes into the wood in the truck), I would assume the kid would be scared 99% of the time, especially in an area he wasn't familiar with, and let's say, in a black neighborhood. Black guy chases him into the wood, and the kid (let's call him Jonny) trips. Black guy (Jerome) gets close, and Jonny, on the ground, picks up a log and smack Jerome. Jerome goes down, and Jonny hits him again with the log, but Jerome struggles with him. Jonny screams help while fighting (why the hell would Jerome scream for help against a string bean) and Jerome shoots him. You all would be saying how Jerome should be charged with Kidnapping, Attempted rape, premeditated murder, etc.)

Now if it was a white 17 year old girl, and a guy follows her, gets out the car, confronts her, gets close, and she say knew forms of martial arts, started beating his ass, and he shot her, you would say hang that guy.

Now, if you believe Zimmerman is telling the truth, that means you believe he turned around, then was attacked. Which means you believe Trayvon talked to him, he turned, and Trayvon, trying to get back home and eat his snacks, said "fuck it, I 'm not even in my neoghborhood, nor do I want to cause trouble, nor am I aggresive or violent, but fuck it, imma beat this guys ass" I'm sorry, if you believe that, you have some racial prejudice against blacks. Let's not forget it was raining, I'm sure he wanted to prolong his stay out in the rain.

As for those who believe in a brutal beating, no, IF there was a fight, nobody sits on someone they don't know who wasn't causing trouble and beats them in the rain with snacks talking on the phone to his girl. Say Trayvon knocked Zimmerman unconscious, what would that have served? Yup Trayvon would have picked up the phone and told his girl, yea, even though I was running, I just attacked him instead. Then he would go home, told his parents he knocked someone out and he was in the middle of the street. Happens ALL THE TIME RIGHT?

Anyways, the essential question is, why would Trayvon even want to attack him?

Stick with the facts.

Alright, why would a 17 year old not looking for trouble walking home about to eat snacks and finish watching a game who isn't violent attack someone?

shooter Wrote:
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> The only reason race is involved is because had
> Trayvon been white, Zimmerman would have been put
>



The only reason race is involved is because the race baiters first thought that Zimmerman was a white Jew living in a 'gated community.' lol



> Blah
> Blah
> More blah
>
> Anyways, the essential question is, why would
> Trayvon even want to attack him?


Cuz he be hard cold thug playin. Yo!

My Favorite Target
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MIAMI (AP) - Court records show George Zimmerman had a pair of black eyes, a nose fracture and two cuts to the back of his head after the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

The medical records were part of evidence released Tuesday that prosecutors have in the second-degree murder case against Zimmerman. He has entered a plea of not guilty and claims self-defense in the Feb. 26 shooting. A message left Tuesday evening with Zimmerman's attorney was not immediately returned

Zimmerman was treated Feb. 27 at Altamonte Family Practice. No one answered the phone at the practice Tuesday evening. ABC News first reported Zimmerman's injuries from the medical records. Some of the injuries were previously reported by The Associated Press based on video of Zimmerman at a jail sally port.


Strike one two and three for the prosecution.

no first off i don't believe Zimmerman and no one should ..it's just these /people/ have a BONE to pick and this happened

my point is white zimmerman vs black hoodie means somebody has to go !

Juxtaposition Wrote:
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> no first off i don't believe Zimmerman and no one
> should ..it's just these /people/ have a BONE to
> pick and this happened
>
> my point is white zimmerman vs black hoodie means
> somebody has to go !


Zimmerman is as "white" as Obama is "black." lol

Give it up racist.

no one's being racist



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Court records show George Zimmerman had a pair of black eyes, a nose fracture and two cuts to the back of his head after the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. Zimmerman was treated Feb. 27 at Altamonte Family Practice.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20120515/US.Neighborhood.Watch/?cid=hero_media

Liberals and those filled with white guilt would lead us to believe Zimmerman beat himself up just before the police got there.

It was the bleedin Hells Angels at Altamonte.

Juxtaposition Wrote:
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> no one's being racist


Y u racist mang? U no like spanish? Who u callin 'theese people?'

"These people" usually refers to someone you would break out in a full trot to get away from.
That would include:
1.Stinky Hindu's
2.Savage Coloreds
3.Rapist Latinos
4.Inbred Hillbilly's
5.Annoying Yuppies
6.Pesky Jews

Not necessarily in that order.

Looks like the case is falling apart and the Feds are going to slap Zim with a hate crime charge to try to get something to stick him in prison.

http://www.presstv.ir/usdetail/241416.html

BEH YOU MOTHER FUCKING HOLY ASS FUCK NIGGER ASS BITCH I PRAY YOU BURN IN HELL FOREVER MORE

Lester Wrote:
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> Court records show George Zimmerman had a pair of
> black eyes, a nose fracture and two cuts to the
> back of his head after the fatal shooting of
> 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. Zimmerman was treated
> Feb. 27 at Altamonte Family Practice.
>
> http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/
> 20120515/US.Neighborhood.Watch/?cid=hero_media

Trayvon The Nigger also had bloody knuckles:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/05/autopsy-reveals-travon-martin-had-bloody-knuckles-when-he-died/

One less feral darkie in the world. Why is everyone so upset?

So basically, Zimmerman started a fight, attacked Trayvon, they fought, and Zimmerman shoots him. But he gets off without anything. I see now.

Btw, since he claims he feared for his life, when is the last time someone has been beaten to death in a one on one fight against someone weighing less than them who is also an untrained fighter with no weapons being used?

UBRacist Wrote:
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> Juxtaposition Wrote:
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> -----
> > no one's being racist
>
>
> Y u racist mang? U no like spanish? Who u callin
> 'theese people?'


Zimmerman and Trayvon reference
And, actually not just them. It shouldn't really matter what I think, but I just feel bad if something like this hurt's someone elses feelings because they're not .. callous even tho I know I really shouldn't
and it's actually really sad

no jury is going to convict this guy and it's called reasonable doubt ..listening to the Trayvon's father whine about him fighting for his life is such utter BS it's just sad but I wish worse would happen so people could learn



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Autopsy showed he was killed with a single shot at an "intermediate" distance

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/16/11736208-trayvon-martin-killed-by-single-gunshot-fired-from-intermediate-range-autopsy-shows?lite

The MSNBC report intentionally leaves the impression that Zimmerman (whom the article later describes as "a white man of Hispanic heritage," although Zimmerman is 1/4 black) must have been at some distance from Martin when he fired.

According to a legal website on the subject of gunshot wound forensics:

Gunshot wounds can be classified based on the range from the muzzle of the gun to the target. These classifications include contact, near-contact, intermediate, and distant wounds…

In near-contact wounds, the muzzle is not in contact with the skin, but is very close…

In intermediate-range wounds, the muzzle is held away from the skin but close enough that it still produces powder tattooing. This type of wound is also characterized by numerous reddish-brown to orange-red lesions around the entrance to the wound.

Source: http://www.relentlessdefense.com/forensics/gunshot-wounds/

And, according to most typical forensic standards, the "intermediate range" begins at 8 to 12 inches and extends out to 24 to 36 inches. For instance, according this site: ”An intermediate range gunshot… can range from just beyond the 12-inch range out to 24 to 36 inches. This depends greatly upon the caliber, barrel length and powder type used in the ammunition.” http://www.firearmsid.com/A_distanceResults.htm

So, "intermediate range" still means close range.

CBS News managed to get this correct, in their article on the same autopsy report:

The reports also noted the fatal wound’s surrounded by a two-by-two inch pattern called stippling, caused by gunpower [sic] burns.

It suggests Zimmerman fired inches away from the teenager.

Source: http://tinyurl.com/d8wav7h

I haven't seen anything of a toxicology report being released yet. Evidently, the security camera at the clubhouse may have captured some of the activity. It may have caught Martin and Zimmerman's movements before they disappeared behind the homes. For instance, it might contradict Zimmerman's claim he was attacked going back to his truck.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-documents-released-shooting-george-zimmerman/story?id=16371852#.T7Vv8c1LqSo



Autopsy revealed Trayvon had THC in his blood and urine.....



....and of course the forensics that revealed the gunshot wound was close distance just bolsters Zimmerman's claim that the two of them struggled.

I think the liberal media is giving up on this case. Too many issues that dont play out the way they would like. while they would enjoy it to be a straight up execution it just isnt coming out that way. Too many issues with the physical evidence getting in the way of their agenda.
Second degree murder looks like one heck of a stretch.

SOICS Wrote:
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> The MSNBC report intentionally leaves the
> impression that Zimmerman (whom the article later
> describes as "a white man of Hispanic heritage,"
> although Zimmerman is 1/4 black) must have been at
> some distance from Martin when he fired.
>
> According to a legal website on the subject of
> gunshot wound forensics:
>
> Gunshot wounds can be classified based on the
> range from the muzzle of the gun to the target.
> These classifications include contact,
> near-contact, intermediate, and distant wounds…
>
>
> In near-contact wounds, the muzzle is not in
> contact with the skin, but is very close…
>
> In intermediate-range wounds, the muzzle is held
> away from the skin but close enough that it still
> produces powder tattooing. This type of wound is
> also characterized by numerous reddish-brown to
> orange-red lesions around the entrance to the
> wound.
>
> Source:
> http://www.relentlessdefense.com/forensics/gunshot
> -wounds/
>
> And, according to most typical forensic standards,
> the "intermediate range" begins at 8 to 12 inches
> and extends out to 24 to 36 inches. For instance,
> according this site: ”An intermediate range
> gunshot… can range from just beyond the 12-inch
> range out to 24 to 36 inches. This depends greatly
> upon the caliber, barrel length and powder type
> used in the ammunition.”
> http://www.firearmsid.com/A_distanceResults.htm
>
> So, "intermediate range" still means close range.
>
> CBS News managed to get this correct, in their
> article on the same autopsy report:
>
> The reports also noted the fatal wound’s
> surrounded by a two-by-two inch pattern called
> stippling, caused by gunpower burns.
>
> It suggests Zimmerman fired inches away from the
> teenager.
>
> Source: http://tinyurl.com/d8wav7h

That's a good point. The use of the word "intermediate" is misleading. Most situations where you have to use a gun in self-defense happen at a range of about six feet or less

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My guess is that Martin started to back off when he heard the police were coming and Zimmerman had the opportunity then to get his gun. Zimmerman doesn't know Martin's intentions. He only knows he's getting beaten up and Martin may just be gathering himself for another assault.

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The witness, who was looking out the sliding glass door at his home about 30 feet away, said he saw the black male throwing punches "MMA (mixed martial arts) style."

He said he told the fighters he was calling the police. He said that as he was making the call, he heard a shot. He looked outside and saw the person who had been on top laid out on the grass as if he had been shot. He said the other fighter was standing on the sidewalk, talking to another person with a flashlight.

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/autopsy-shows-trayvon-was-inches-away-zimmerman-wh/nN8MZ/

perry masonmint Wrote:
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> I think the liberal media is giving up on this
> case. Too many issues that dont play out the way
> they would like. while they would enjoy it to be
> a straight up execution it just isnt coming out
> that way. Too many issues with the physical
> evidence getting in the way of their agenda.
> Second degree murder looks like one heck of a
> stretch.

It has been from the start when they realized that Zimmerman wasn't some rich white jew living in a 'gated community' like they first assumed. Hasn't stopped them yet. Witness the "white hispanic" bs.

But you're right. The more that comes out the more it appears to support Z's story.

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