I like working on my car. I just do. Yesterday I did ball joints with hand tools and decided fuck that - time for an impact wrench and power ratchet. Originally I thought air tools but that is a hassle so Im looking at Milwaukee Fuel 12 3/8 cordless ratchet and Harbor Freight Earthquake XT impact wrench.

I know Milwaukee is high quality and I know HF is usually dangerous cheap shit but the Earthquake XT has gotten very good reviews. In any event my days of straining on frozen bolts and stripping the ends with hand tools are over.

And in advance of the douche bags - yes I can afford to have a mechanic do the repairs but I enjoy doing the work myself - its like a big puzzle and I feel very satisfied completing the jobs and of course saving thousands on my high mileage vehicles.

Don’t buy a cordless impact driver. Invest in either power (120vac) or pneumatic with 1/2 inch drive. Cordless drives don’t have consistent torque and power.

Milwaukee, Ingersoll-Rand, etc Wrote:
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> Don’t buy a cordless impact driver. Invest in
> either power (120vac) or pneumatic with 1/2 inch
> drive. Cordless drives don’t have consistent
> torque and power.


incorrect. are you old?

long funny review or the Earthquake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkPzjV-ZaTU

nopey Wrote:
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> Milwaukee, Ingersoll-Rand, etc Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Don’t buy a cordless impact driver. Invest in
> > either power (120vac) or pneumatic with 1/2
> inch
> > drive. Cordless drives don’t have consistent
> > torque and power.
>
>
> incorrect. are you old?
>
> long funny review or the Earthquake
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkPzjV-ZaTU


Kinda old but also kinda smart. Cute tools but have you ever needed to get a chopper or other aircraft airborne to rescue humans or deliver supplies in -10 degree weather, those teenie weenie batteries can’t deliver. A smart person accounts for the worse and tools up according.
Besides, you hopefully have to buy once.
But you just want to look cool working on a rice burner.......

When the Going Gets Gone Wrote:
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> nopey Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Milwaukee, Ingersoll-Rand, etc Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Don’t buy a cordless impact driver. Invest
> in
> > > either power (120vac) or pneumatic with 1/2
> > inch
> > > drive. Cordless drives don’t have
> consistent
> > > torque and power.
> >
> >
> > incorrect. are you old?
> >
> > long funny review or the Earthquake
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkPzjV-ZaTU
>
>
> Kinda old but also kinda smart. Cute tools but
> have you ever needed to get a chopper or other
> aircraft airborne to rescue humans or deliver
> supplies in -10 degree weather, those teenie
> weenie batteries can’t deliver. A smart person
> accounts for the worse and tools up according.
> Besides, you hopefully have to buy once.
> But you just want to look cool working on a rice
> burner.......


Yeah and nobody's doing that here.

The HF Earthquake wrench is fine. As are some other cordless guns now like the Milwaukee. A good IR or other better quality air gun still is better overall as far as power and size but you'll need a good compressor on the other end too and all that goes along with it (lines, size, power, etc.). The biggest catch with the electrics are that they are large and hard to get into some places. But they are convenient and power is good with most of the newer ones.

The ratchets are handy too but most don't understand how they're used. They're not impacts (unless you buy one of the few that are anyway). They're not really intended to break most things free. They're used mainly to save time spinning things up/down and started/finished by hand. You can break some lighter torqued fasteners with them but don't count on much heavier.

I have both, I use both. Both have advantages/disadvantages. Depends on the job.

Battery powered impact wrench? My eleven year old uses one on his go cart.

libs hate America. Wrote:
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> Battery powered impact wrench? My eleven year old
> uses one on his go cart.

Why do Libs lie? It’s your go-cart.

There are those who play and those that fix.
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OP is a troll doing a fake question post

> "time for an impact wrench and power ratchet"

they will slow you down compared to hand tools, some mechanics don't use them

most importantly is cost: the compressor you need, 5cfm min., is more than you "need"

good wrenches are very expensive though, but sears wrenches work in many cases

to make use of power tools you need allot of repetitive work - "know uses". it reduces effort but doesn't save much or any time

for rotating tires you might have a case - but totally not worth all the buying you need to do to help with that one niche thing

if you buy a snapon wrench it will last a lifetime and never fail, or strip a single nut, or rust

if you buy a home depot wrench it will "flex" when you turn and so strip every nut that's tight you ever try to loosen

DON'T SAY I DIDN'T WARN YOU

(sockets also "flex" unless you buy high impact sockets, which are about the same price if you look)

auto manufacturers design certain parts so they can be REMOVED with power tools (NEVER EVER assemble anything with a power tool)

but if you don't do the same thing frequently it won't help you

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the only power tools that makes sense for the home is a high quality "high impact" wrench

makita or dewalt are the only choices, milwlkee i can't say - but i've never seen one in a shop

high quality LITHIUM "high impact" wrench

it will set you back the price of a fine wrench set, though

$$ not including sockets or extensions

the problem with tile is: everything is a problem

invest your money more wisely: quality tools, the fewest you need today

invest the rest on something wise

DO NOT BUY HOME DEPOT OR LOWES OR EBAY CHINA PNEUMATIC TOOLS

they are too heavy an fat to be of any use working on cars

no car in production is made for those to fit anywhere - totally useless, and they have no power

I just bought this one after endless research. Just remember it has a racheting chuck you have to tighten by hand and hear click to secure the bit.

Its a beast. It comes with an led light that lights up what you're working on which is an extra convenience. I mainly got it because its a bad ass drill that cuts through wood with anything you put on it like its water. And for a 100 bucks

https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-20-Volt-MAX-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Brushless-Compact-Drill-Driver-with-2-Batteries-1-3Ah-Charger-and-Bag-DCD777C2/207105622

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> I just bought this one after endless research.
> Just remember it has a racheting chuck you have to
> tighten by hand and hear click to secure the bit.
>
>
> Its a beast. It comes with an led light that
> lights up what you're working on which is an extra
> convenience. I mainly got it because its a bad ass
> drill that cuts through wood with anything you put
> on it like its water. And for a 100 bucks
>
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-20-Volt-MAX-Lit
> hium-Ion-Cordless-Brushless-Compact-Drill-Driver-w
> ith-2-Batteries-1-3Ah-Charger-and-Bag-DCD777C2/207
> 105622

Not an impact tool dummy.

Stay in your lane Geraldine Wrote:
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>
> Not an impact tool dummy.


Gerry just copied a review and posted it here.

The only tool he owns is a vibrator he shoves up his ass. His mother fixes anything that breaks

Clark Jizzwald Wrote:
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> Stay in your lane Geraldine Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Not an impact tool dummy.
>
>
> Gerry just copied a review and posted it here.
>
> The only tool he owns is a vibrator he shoves up
> his ass. His mother fixes anything that breaks


Personal experience?

When the Going Gets Gone Wrote:
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> nopey Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Milwaukee, Ingersoll-Rand, etc Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Don’t buy a cordless impact driver. Invest
> in
> > > either power (120vac) or pneumatic with 1/2
> > inch
> > > drive. Cordless drives don’t have
> consistent
> > > torque and power.
> >
> >
> > incorrect. are you old?
> >
> > long funny review or the Earthquake
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkPzjV-ZaTU
>
>
> Kinda old but also kinda smart. Cute tools but
> have you ever needed to get a chopper or other
> aircraft airborne to rescue humans or deliver
> supplies in -10 degree weather, those teenie
> weenie batteries can’t deliver. A smart person
> accounts for the worse and tools up according.
> Besides, you hopefully have to buy once.
> But you just want to look cool working on a rice
> burner.......


Choppers? -10 degree? Rescue? - You ok???

Im talking about working on my Volvo in the car port not servicing Coast Guard Eurocopter HH-65 Dolphin. What the fuck are you talking about? I dont have a rescue team waiting in my kitchen waiting for me to complete the installation of a 10-blade low-noise Fenestron before saving a water taxi full of nuns on the Potomac.

What I am talking about is overcoming frozen bolts with a hammer wrench a few dozen times a year without having to spend half an hour with a torch penetrating oil and a hammer. Also I dont work on the cars below 40 degrees F. Dumbass.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> I just bought this one after endless research.
> Just remember it has a racheting chuck you have to
> tighten by hand and hear click to secure the bit.
>
>
> Its a beast. It comes with an led light that
> lights up what you're working on which is an extra
> convenience. I mainly got it because its a bad ass
> drill that cuts through wood with anything you put
> on it like its water. And for a 100 bucks
>
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-20-Volt-MAX-Lit
> hium-Ion-Cordless-Brushless-Compact-Drill-Driver-w
> ith-2-Batteries-1-3Ah-Charger-and-Bag-DCD777C2/207
> 105622

Drill? For wood? You are a dumb goat-fucking motherfucker. My post is about working on cars and freeing frozen bolts for fuck's sake. Also that DeWalt is a piece of crusty shit for anything other than drilling holes to hang mirrors or light fixtures. The only thing you have shown is you have no idea about either auto repair or home repair.

hdmjp Wrote:
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> OP is a troll doing a fake question post
>
> > "time for an impact wrench and power ratchet"
>
> they will slow you down compared to hand tools,
> some mechanics don't use them
>
> most importantly is cost: the compressor you need,
> 5cfm min., is more than you "need"
>
> good wrenches are very expensive though, but sears
> wrenches work in many cases
>
> to make use of power tools you need allot of
> repetitive work - "know uses". it reduces effort
> but doesn't save much or any time
>
> for rotating tires you might have a case - but
> totally not worth all the buying you need to do to
> help with that one niche thing

You are the troll dumbass. If you read the post you would realize I was discussing lithium battery operated tools so no compressor. You would also have read that I have used hand tools on my cars for years. What you dont know because you have no idea what you are talking about is that frozen bolts and hand tools suck. You have obviously never spent time freeing a frozen bolt with hand tools. You can spend an hour or more on a frozen bolt with hand tools and torch. You also risk striping the bolt.

Impact wrench is not for losening every bolt - just high torque and frozen or tight bolts. Ever try to remove an exhaust bolt from under a car with a hand tool? I have and it sucks. Without a lift you cannot get a breaker bar under the vehicle to break the bolts.

So why not shut up and listen and learn something instead of pretending you know something?

Mr. Goodwrench Wrote:
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> When the Going Gets Gone Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > nopey Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Milwaukee, Ingersoll-Rand, etc Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Don’t buy a cordless impact driver.
> Invest
> > in
> > > > either power (120vac) or pneumatic with 1/2
> > > inch
> > > > drive. Cordless drives don’t have
> > consistent
> > > > torque and power.
> > >
> > >
> > > incorrect. are you old?
> > >
> > > long funny review or the Earthquake
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkPzjV-ZaTU
> >
> >
> > Kinda old but also kinda smart. Cute tools but
> > have you ever needed to get a chopper or other
> > aircraft airborne to rescue humans or deliver
> > supplies in -10 degree weather, those teenie
> > weenie batteries can’t deliver. A smart
> person
> > accounts for the worse and tools up according.
> > Besides, you hopefully have to buy once.
> > But you just want to look cool working on a
> rice
> > burner.......
>
>
> Yeah and nobody's doing that here.
>
> The HF Earthquake wrench is fine. As are some
> other cordless guns now like the Milwaukee. A
> good IR or other better quality air gun still is
> better overall as far as power and size but you'll
> need a good compressor on the other end too and
> all that goes along with it (lines, size, power,
> etc.). The biggest catch with the electrics are
> that they are large and hard to get into some
> places. But they are convenient and power is good
> with most of the newer ones.
>
> The ratchets are handy too but most don't
> understand how they're used. They're not impacts
> (unless you buy one of the few that are anyway).
> They're not really intended to break most things
> free. They're used mainly to save time spinning
> things up/down and started/finished by hand. You
> can break some lighter torqued fasteners with them
> but don't count on much heavier.
>
> I have both, I use both. Both have
> advantages/disadvantages. Depends on the job.


someone who gets it - Thank you! I spend maybe 10-15 days a year doing real work on my cars requiring any real grunt work so the compressor though tempting is probably not what I need. I mean Ive done it all for over a decade with hand tools so fuck. The only things I cannot do are jobs where you need a lift or need leverage without much room (exhaust bolts under vehicle). Also as you mentioned I get tired of ratcheting so that is what the non-impact wrench is for (not breaking bolts). What I will have to resist is the temptation to over use the impact wrench or even the power ratchet for that matter.

With what I save in labor charges Ill pay for the $500 power tools in one repair so Im not worried about the cost.

I have 800k socked away in savings, I own 3 homes (rent one) and I have enough in my 401k to provide me 8k/mo in retirement. I earn just under 200k per year and have already paid for college for the kids. Why would I work on my cars? I mean in the 4 years I own them they only need routine service and that is covered by the dealer for the first 50k.

What kind of loser has to 'break frozen bolts?' Why not apply yourself and earn enough to live like an adult?

I see poor people Wrote:
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> I have 800k socked away in savings, I own 3 homes
> (rent one) and I have enough in my 401k to provide
> me 8k/mo in retirement. I earn just under 200k
> per year and have already paid for college for the
> kids. Why would I work on my cars? I mean in the
> 4 years I own them they only need routine service
> and that is covered by the dealer for the first
> 50k.
>
> What kind of loser has to 'break frozen bolts?'
> Why not apply yourself and earn enough to live
> like an adult?


So that it's done right. Because it's more time and trouble to take somewhere than to do it yourself. So that you don't have to juggle cars and waste two days hauling it to the dealership or elsewhere and pay stupid money to have something done that you can do in > 30 minutes. Because you want to and enjoy working on cars. Because you own something better than your Camry.

Pretty much anyone who works on cars or other equipment deals with frozen or very highly torqued fasteners. Which everyone who does knows is the case. So you could have just said I'm a clueless pussy who's afraid to get my hands dirty and has no idea what they're doing with those tool thingys.

I see poor people Wrote:
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> I have 800k socked away in savings, I own 3 homes
> (rent one) and I have enough in my 401k to provide
> me 8k/mo in retirement. I earn just under 200k
> per year and have already paid for college for the
> kids. Why would I work on my cars? I mean in the
> 4 years I own them they only need routine service
> and that is covered by the dealer for the first
> 50k.
>
> What kind of loser has to 'break frozen bolts?'
> Why not apply yourself and earn enough to live
> like an adult?

A liar, asshole and posting on Sunday....Donal Trump, I presume?

I use a lot of HF tools and they all work great. Use them properly and they won't break. I too do a lot of my own work and since that occasionally, HF are just right. I bought the Chicago cordless impact gun and it works fine for what I needed it for,breaking the flywheel bolt on a timing belt project. I use it for lugs when I rotate my tires too. Iam eying the Earthquake sruff. It's pretty solid. Grear upgrade for HF. You can round any nut,bust any knuckle with Snap On or HF. But if you know what you're doing,HF is great!

Andy236 Wrote:
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> I use a lot of HF tools and they all work great.
> Use them properly and they won't break. I too do a
> lot of my own work and since that occasionally, HF
> are just right. I bought the Chicago cordless
> impact gun and it works fine for what I needed it
> for,breaking the flywheel bolt on a timing belt
> project. I use it for lugs when I rotate my tires
> too. Iam eying the Earthquake sruff. It's pretty
> solid. Grear upgrade for HF. You can round any
> nut,bust any knuckle with Snap On or HF. But if
> you know what you're doing,HF is great!

check out the OP's link to a review by Ave on the Earthquake XT - he breaks the tool down and examines every part then operates a torque test. Its quite impressive.

All wood working processes are pretty simple job, if you have some real tools to make wooden details, with precise movements, like these trim routers ( here: https://www.woodroutersreviews.com/best-trim-router/ ). I've been searching for such resourcing a long time, and finally I got it. It has tons of useful information.

shady tree man Wrote:
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> I like working on my car. I just do. Yesterday I
> did ball joints with hand tools and decided fuck
> that - time for an impact wrench and power
> ratchet. Originally I thought air tools but that
> is a hassle so Im looking at Milwaukee Fuel 12 3/8
> cordless ratchet and Harbor Freight Earthquake XT
> impact wrench.
>
> I know Milwaukee is high quality and I know HF is
> usually dangerous cheap shit but the Earthquake XT
> has gotten very good reviews. In any event my
> days of straining on frozen bolts and stripping
> the ends with hand tools are over.
>
> And in advance of the douche bags - yes I can
> afford to have a mechanic do the repairs but I
> enjoy doing the work myself - its like a big
> puzzle and I feel very satisfied completing the
> jobs and of course saving thousands on my high
> mileage vehicles.



Dude, I agree with you because it’s actually really hard to find good tools, because most of them are not at all durable. After my father left, I still had his set of tools, but most of them did not work and I decided to buy new ones, but firstly I was shocked at the prices, and secondly I did not understand a huge number of models. Most of all I needed grinders for processing wooden beams. When I realized that the consultants in the stores were only trying to trick me and sell me the most expensive product, I began to search for information on the Internet and I was lucky that I came across a review site and could find ryobi belt sander reviews. In the end, I chose the most suitable model and bought it at a very competitive price. So don’t trust shops.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2020 04:05PM by jogncartman.

OP here Earthquake and Milwakee are working like new after 1.5 yrs. In truth I use the impact for the lug bolts and tough fasteners. I use the cordless ratchet for spinning nuts. It just makes working on the car faster and more fun with a lot less grunting. worth it.

Hello guys. Now you can buy all necessary tools online, it is quite fast and comfortable decision. By the way if you often work with cars, I can also recommend to choose good tool bels, very good thing!

npeb3 Wrote:
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> if you buy a snapon wrench it will last a lifetime
> and never fail, or strip a single nut, or rust
>
> if you buy a home depot wrench it will "flex" when
> you turn and so strip every nut that's tight you
> ever try to loosen
>
> DON'T SAY I DIDN'T WARN YOU
>
> (sockets also "flex" unless you buy high impact
> sockets, which are about the same price if you
> look)


Good advice. My dad had a Snap On socket, ratchet and wrench set that he bought new during the mid 1960's. After over 5O years of continuous (non commercial) use they still look and operate as brand new. Zero problems. The new ones might not be quite as good but they are still worth the money if you can afford it.

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