https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/02/16/yellow-vest-claims-movement-has-paramilitaries-ready-to-overthrow-macron/

FAKE NEWS ... maybe not be in France much longer, because france is sick of fake news

“I know I’m risking a lot, I can get shot in the head anytime, but I’ll be at the end of my convictions, because if they put a bullet in my head, Macron will be placed in the guillotine.”

WRONG.

he can easily get a bullet in your head and eek out a win

keep that in mind please

macron has behind him (most) of police, fire, teachers, bureaucrats, social workers, perhaps 1/2 of France's population

they are willing too see poor people harmed in exchange for "guaranteed good jobs and raises". the problem? nothing is ever enough - they'd rather refuse to hire people and take double pay and see work go undone than hire. they'd rather raise tax then insure France does not need more tax (by hard work)

DON'T DOUBT THAT

MACRON has on his side allot of wealthy who will PARADE IN THE STREET exclaiming macron had been right all along to cut the throat of the "lower class"

I've seen this as on a timeline as:

(a) a trendy french probably run by gov workers in the city

(b) a more serious protest against fuel prices

(c) a more serious protest that likely was not purely about fuel prices

(d) a real struggle that Macron was willing to use police force over

(e) Macron didn't react "normally", his is sticking in his heels and telling well paid government workers to protest their pay is "where they want it"

(f) Macron is expected to win WITHOUT CONCESSIONS by stalling and fake news ... but he hasn't

(g) it is a real situation, the yellow vests actually might organize to depose the "a little too lucky" government worker political party

(f) france has a "wage gap" issue like USA does, and political problems like USA does: government is in control of it's own pay. it's like asking an alligator to share a chicken during feeding because it's had more than it's share. you can ask.


this isn't a history of "not enough to go around"

it's more like the "ROARING 1920'S" of the USA except that the ones who didn't get to share in the ROAR know it very well: because of the internet

fake news has been trying furiously to

(a) spread dis-information and hide SWATTING of the poor (and moreso: the total senselessness tragedy story that leads to swatting)

(b) threaten the public to accept their fate with "authority" and "police #winning" stories

(c) attempts, that almost succeeded, to make the internet 100% news and government MODERATED

In the early 2000's one would have to search very hard to find a website that was not moderated. Due to a few un-discussed factors, they were not successful in killing off the last few un-moderated sites: however in USA they are still filing legislation to do "SWAT sites that allow free speech". The result was that news of "wage gap" (and google maps showing lofty property sprawls of government workers) - were simply not "moderated".

The result was is people DO see in-equity and ARE BEGINNING TO UNDERSTAND that all this SWATTING is about (in usa) DC blacks seizing property for HUD and such - deep state seizure and covering up in the news. (in USA and france there is a "right to property" - so we thought)

(part of c was to kill linux and make news sites with monologue or closely moderated "news response" forums so that communities could not freely share ideas. however as to linux - there were many other factors - both monopoly but moreso susceptibility to foreign attack and "pay abuse" (use by the rich to get free stuff)). another was to shut down world popular "news groups" nation wide (millenials don't kno what those are?) another: to insure that cable TV was not a video share device but a "top down CA/NY controlled device controlled by the rich" etc etc. they BIT BLOCKED WEB SITES (home websites, charing $110/mo. "fee" for those wishing to have a website) (then also on google: deleted websites that "democrats don't like"). during clinton they did take many steps to shut down "internet as a free publishing" and make it "a thing democrats have, ultimately, real control of" (like chinese internet). they tried and were not successful and the reasons they weren't we, to some extents, merely due to factors having nothing to do with politics.

It all seemed normal (yet another protest)

But it's gone on quite a while and spread to other countries too.

What i see WRONG with situation is Macron is not offering to appease protestors in any way. Instead he's acting like an imperialist or facist - taking steps to ignore protestors, arrest them, and call them all criminals.

It is exactly what your history books warn about or show as a struggle - when "government won't let go".

It's exactly what "advances in society" are NOT considered: it's considered that in advance that the public has the "right to address government" and an assuption the government does not respond with PAY RAISES FOR GOVERNMENT AND JAILING those asking for redress

Building a government that could hire by "friend or family" and breed and take pay raises using weapons to enforce their own pay raise

WAS NOT WHAT THE 1600'S - 1800'S fought to do.

They fought to depose Kings and Dukes and then after issued laws to prevent it all from happening again. So they thought.

THE NEW GOVERNMENTS of the 1700's were not designed to be "guaranteed raised wages for political families". The opposite: those accused of doing it were forced out of office*

Not completely. The rich were in control however the rich at the time were forced to make "concessions" they didn't agree with, forced by the people who HAD JUST WON THE WARS who were INSISTING THEY DID. It was not a situation of the rich agreeing.


It was felt "rights to property" would be the most fair way to precede though not perfect because government, given the right to seize, would become a family business of seizing from others "using authority".


At first there was resistance to any "government workers" whatsoever - and taxation was thin. Later, with need of major projects (such as bridges), and the need for central intelligence and a long term game plan, taxes (still thin) became used to "employ certain workers".

Here we are today with 1/3 the population demanding security in their overpaid government jobs attacking the other 2/3 if they don't get raises (which are far beyond what the 1/3 working pop. not in gov are) - and the attacks are brutal.

The 1700's did NOT depose their Kings to replace it with Mobs. They didn't think to write that in the law but in Court and public opinion it is certain that deposing BOTH was their intent.

you have the CHINA factor (which is UN-REAL because china is Mob territory)

to have centralized gov with long range plans and everybody happy: you have to

(a) really hire everyone except those insisting on staying in their private job

(b) really NOT have huge wage gap

(b) really NOT have Medium wage gap

(c) not be corrupt

the thing is china is none of that, and democrats know it.

and we all know [a-c] have ZERO chance of happening with fake news bastards in politics

for stupid millenials

(b) really NOT have huge wage gap

(b) really NOT have Medium wage gap

WE HAD ACHIEVED THAT DURING REAGAN, ALSO "ZERO INFLATION". BILL CLINTON DESTROYED IT QUITE INTENTIONALLY.

‘Unacceptable Provocation’: Italian Populists Troll French Establishment by Meeting Yellow Vests

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/02/16/yellow-vest-claims-movement-has-paramilitaries-ready-to-overthrow-macron/

the chinese plan sounds good until you undertand they are corrupt as all hell

russian communism was good until it failed

the problem is not MOE (material, organization, energy). the problem is courts and enforcement and politics never seem to be able to have a set of rules and "actually follow them" because: there's money on the table and people grab it

"SELF GOVERNED"

NO.

(1) indirect governing is NOT self governed

(a) in very early usa anyone who was anyone was part of the governing: everyone but slaves. that was "self governed"

(b) indirect allows government to beat up on the population when it is corrupt, and since Bill Clinton: IT IS CORRUPT

(2) direct (self) governed has one problem: "the majority beating up on minority, on minority at a time"

So self governed is, in itself, no guarantee of freedom from oppression at all. It easily allows politicians to bandy the "majority" to beat up on minorities. And after several minorities are killed off quite literally raped, they vote legislation their "party" cannot ever be challenged and TAXES BE USED TO PREVENT LEGAL CHALLENGE, and they are: kings and dukes.

in USA, indirect governing combined with "un-restricted" hiring and pay gaps, has become: oppression - if not SWATTING and real killing for profit

There is another serious problem.

That the young understand none of this until "it is too late".

(really they do, if in a backwards way, but they see no need to take actions until it is too late)

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it's the NEW chinese way to take complete advantage of mis-information, delays, obstruction of the lives of the poor to keep political families free to spend while keeping others "chained to working or dead for not serving well". "they won't know what hit them" is the new chinese plan.

The BIG 1

the reason we are still back to the 1700's fighting with Kings and Dukes yet again ...

it's not poor formation of rules

it's lack of organization and following of rules (to find cheaters and CLAW BACK what they took and demote them).

it's is somewhat inexcusable in the age of the internet (despite clinton attempt to make it a government monologue china device, it still is not. though legislators in USA are at the moment i speak trying to pass legislation allowing SWATTING of websites that have "different idea than those of government workers" (ie, are owed money))

LOOSE RULES OF GOVERNING ARE NOT ENOUGH

WE NEED A FUCKING SCHEDULE AND TO FOLLOW IT, A SCHEDULE OF INSURING EVERYONE IS ACCOUNTED FOR (not swatted) AND NO ONE IS CHEATING

something like a schedule of meeting (local, area, wide area, state, federal) that is "not voluntary"

of checking ways and means (of inspecting homes and if the occupants owning them haven't BEEN STEALING to build them)

of long term planning that does NOT include un-equal distribution of collected funds

and, while that is done, of attending to those who are directionless (unable to find work when there is work to do, to direct them to it)

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a real schedule with definite points, a flight check list, all which must be checked off

it's really need. it's really far from being done

(ACTUALLY during the mid 1900's usa enacted an agency to fight corruption in government - but that is long past forgotten and "inactive" or mute)

another point: we've found Courts SHOULD BE a place of equity and have become places of political brutality and politically run

RUNNING TO COURT cannot be an answer

it goes without saying the scheduled work must be "non voluntary" and UNPAID

groups could "meet" by forum online. but INSPECTIONS (of persons, items) obviously not.

I am not saying "this should replace government". I am saying government has no schedule of getting anything "RIGHT" done.

I am saying the schedule of not being "a machine of swatting and stealing from the poor" must include A SCHEDULE of compulsive flight check lists that must be checked off.

the list would be something like:

(a) everyone accounted for and not endangered

(b) everyone working

(c) no one has "mysterious wealth"

(d) there is a long range farming/housing/fuel plan, ie, that providing for increase of children and population (new housing, more farming) are NOT BYPASSED and must be checked off - at least in planning.

(e) there cannot be too long a list due to time, so the schedule and list of check-offs had better be damn good

government, of course, would not be able to claim rights of 3x-15x the pay in such a system of INSPECTIONS because they would fail inspection - they would have no way to argue their wealth was not stolen.

in the 1600's every property owner was a governor quite literally

today we have tens of miillions PER governor

we have become far too remote from our duty to have a schedule of insuring equity and stick to it

we all know this is not a matter of "failing to participate in government"

if I go to a scheduled GOVERNMENT meeting in fairfax

(1) i will not be allowed to talk

(2) if i do talk and say "your pay is too high", they will exclaim they are "duely elected" and have me arrested

this is "total bullshit" and exactly what has 'got to go'

Another confirmed problem with Courts. (other than shameless and illegal political work lately)

JUDICIAL WATCH, a government paid agency to investigate court corruption

DOES NOT INVESTIGATE, DOES NOT ANSWER CITIZENS WHO HAVE CONCERNS

the fact of our government is it is so totally corrupt that there are LONG LISTS of anti-corruption "agencies" that do nothing but delete and cover up cases

this looks to me to be a NY CNN worker, not someone i'd trust to insure judges are fair

we have a near boston massacre situation frequently now

and media "avoids covering it"

in what direction does the wind blow

how much if this do you put up with if you are un-employed, businesses hire illegals despite you are well owed a job, and government refuses to hire so to keep their wages higher and keep the "jobs in their family, not yours"

??

it would not be the same question of the above is not THE WHY of the situation

this isn't a great depression is a lop-sided roaring 20's situation. except that "we all see what your damn doing"

England has just released it's new expansion plan for stone henge ... that hateful place that government workers now need to remove and build on top of to correct the "wrongs of the past".

fwphv