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Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
Posted by:
Thanks Paul!!
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Date: September 14, 2018 08:24PM
but, but Hillary!
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
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Too late for a pardon
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Date: September 14, 2018 08:29PM
and a pardon would only prevent him from taking the 5th - he will still be broke and still have to cooperate and testify. Too late for a pardon to save don now.
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
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bite the donkey
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Date: September 14, 2018 08:40PM
Too late for a pardon Wrote:
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> and a pardon would only prevent him from taking
> the 5th - he will still be broke and still have to
> cooperate and testify. Too late for a pardon to
> save don now.
No. Manny can do whatever he wants now. The loss of his property is a secondary issue.
He can lie, perjure himself... whatever. If Mueller decides to throw charges on him for that, he can be pardoned for that too. If he lies to the feds and the deal is taken off the table, so what? Trump can pardon him.
Personally I think Manny is a bad guy, but his crimes are all shit of lobbyists and dealmakers. No one has shown us anything that has to do with Trump/Russia. (No, Manafort/Ukraine in 2009 is not Trump/Russia 2016)
It will look bad if Trump pardons him, but it's within his rights as executive.
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> and a pardon would only prevent him from taking
> the 5th - he will still be broke and still have to
> cooperate and testify. Too late for a pardon to
> save don now.
No. Manny can do whatever he wants now. The loss of his property is a secondary issue.
He can lie, perjure himself... whatever. If Mueller decides to throw charges on him for that, he can be pardoned for that too. If he lies to the feds and the deal is taken off the table, so what? Trump can pardon him.
Personally I think Manny is a bad guy, but his crimes are all shit of lobbyists and dealmakers. No one has shown us anything that has to do with Trump/Russia. (No, Manafort/Ukraine in 2009 is not Trump/Russia 2016)
It will look bad if Trump pardons him, but it's within his rights as executive.
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
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Lock em all up
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Date: September 14, 2018 08:41PM
I think there’s more to this deal that they don’t want to talk about. Like keeping others out of prison
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
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not good for dono
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Date: September 14, 2018 09:04PM
bite the donkey Wrote:
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> Too late for a pardon Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > and a pardon would only prevent him from taking
> > the 5th - he will still be broke and still have
> to
> > cooperate and testify. Too late for a pardon
> to
> > save don now.
>
> No. Manny can do whatever he wants now. The loss
> of his property is a secondary issue.
>
> He can lie, perjure himself... whatever. If
> Mueller decides to throw charges on him for that,
> he can be pardoned for that too. If he lies to the
> feds and the deal is taken off the table, so what?
> Trump can pardon him.
>
> Personally I think Manny is a bad guy, but his
> crimes are all shit of lobbyists and dealmakers.
> No one has shown us anything that has to do with
> Trump/Russia. (No, Manafort/Ukraine in 2009 is not
> Trump/Russia 2016)
>
> It will look bad if Trump pardons him, but it's
> within his rights as executive.
Manafort has stipulated the seizures are enforceable criminally and civilly - he will never get any of his property or money back. He has agreed to cooperate fully. If he openly lies under oath it would be more felony obstruction. I dont think Trump would dare pardon someone obstructing on his behalf as a quid pro quo. That would certainly implicate the President in obvious obstruction of justice.
Im not saying it wont happen but it would not help Trump. Recall Mueller only needs Manafort as a corroborating witness as he is far too tainted for a case to stand on his word (especially given the Felonies he is guilty of).
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> Too late for a pardon Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > and a pardon would only prevent him from taking
> > the 5th - he will still be broke and still have
> to
> > cooperate and testify. Too late for a pardon
> to
> > save don now.
>
> No. Manny can do whatever he wants now. The loss
> of his property is a secondary issue.
>
> He can lie, perjure himself... whatever. If
> Mueller decides to throw charges on him for that,
> he can be pardoned for that too. If he lies to the
> feds and the deal is taken off the table, so what?
> Trump can pardon him.
>
> Personally I think Manny is a bad guy, but his
> crimes are all shit of lobbyists and dealmakers.
> No one has shown us anything that has to do with
> Trump/Russia. (No, Manafort/Ukraine in 2009 is not
> Trump/Russia 2016)
>
> It will look bad if Trump pardons him, but it's
> within his rights as executive.
Manafort has stipulated the seizures are enforceable criminally and civilly - he will never get any of his property or money back. He has agreed to cooperate fully. If he openly lies under oath it would be more felony obstruction. I dont think Trump would dare pardon someone obstructing on his behalf as a quid pro quo. That would certainly implicate the President in obvious obstruction of justice.
Im not saying it wont happen but it would not help Trump. Recall Mueller only needs Manafort as a corroborating witness as he is far too tainted for a case to stand on his word (especially given the Felonies he is guilty of).
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
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Emmrr
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Date: September 14, 2018 09:08PM
Ut oh libtards, hahahaha! Looks like manafort talking!
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
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does not bode well
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Date: September 14, 2018 09:13PM
Emmrr Wrote:
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> Ut oh libtards, hahahaha! Looks like manafort
> talking!
...remember the days when you said 'notingburger' and its all a witch hunt? Its not just that Manafort is talking - he is guilty of multiple counts of Conspiracy Against the United States, bank fraud, money laundering and more. I know to you, a Trumptard this means nothing. To anyone with a brain this is a dark day for the USA and does not bode well for the orange one.
you can read the agreement here
https://www.scribd.com/document/388613725/Manafort-Plea-Agreement#fullscreen&from_embed
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> Ut oh libtards, hahahaha! Looks like manafort
> talking!
...remember the days when you said 'notingburger' and its all a witch hunt? Its not just that Manafort is talking - he is guilty of multiple counts of Conspiracy Against the United States, bank fraud, money laundering and more. I know to you, a Trumptard this means nothing. To anyone with a brain this is a dark day for the USA and does not bode well for the orange one.
you can read the agreement here
https://www.scribd.com/document/388613725/Manafort-Plea-Agreement#fullscreen&from_embed
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
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great day for usa
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Date: September 15, 2018 10:10AM
read the agreement Paul waived everything to maybe get 7 years vs 20. All his money and property gone too.
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
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trump hater
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Date: September 15, 2018 10:14AM
I heared he has the pee tape! he peed on obabas bed! whats your excuse trump tards!
hillary will fuck your asshole I swear it!!!
hillary will fuck your asshole I swear it!!!
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
Posted by:
ball buster
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Date: September 15, 2018 11:39AM
agreement is a ball buster at best it is a 'hope' for a lesser sentence if he proves 'useful' to the prosecution. Fuck, I would be shitting my pants if I were part of the Trump crime family
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
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Yes we can
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Date: September 15, 2018 11:47AM
does not bode well Wrote:
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> Emmrr Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ut oh libtards, hahahaha! Looks like manafort
> > talking!
>
>
> ...remember the days when you said 'notingburger'
> and its all a witch hunt? Its not just that
> Manafort is talking - he is guilty of multiple
> counts of Conspiracy Against the United States,
> bank fraud, money laundering and more. I know to
> you, a Trumptard this means nothing. To anyone
> with a brain this is a dark day for the USA and
> does not bode well for the orange one.
>
> you can read the agreement here
> https://www.scribd.com/document/388613725/Manafort
> -Plea-Agreement#fullscreen&from_embed
Well I think u have overlooked 30 years of sadness by the Clintons. And fbi collusion against trump.
I wish u democrats cared about laws and corruption when u have the office
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> Emmrr Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ut oh libtards, hahahaha! Looks like manafort
> > talking!
>
>
> ...remember the days when you said 'notingburger'
> and its all a witch hunt? Its not just that
> Manafort is talking - he is guilty of multiple
> counts of Conspiracy Against the United States,
> bank fraud, money laundering and more. I know to
> you, a Trumptard this means nothing. To anyone
> with a brain this is a dark day for the USA and
> does not bode well for the orange one.
>
> you can read the agreement here
> https://www.scribd.com/document/388613725/Manafort
> -Plea-Agreement#fullscreen&from_embed
Well I think u have overlooked 30 years of sadness by the Clintons. And fbi collusion against trump.
I wish u democrats cared about laws and corruption when u have the office
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
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but hillarys emails!
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Date: September 15, 2018 12:03PM
Yes we can Wrote:
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> does not bode well Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Emmrr Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Ut oh libtards, hahahaha! Looks like manafort
> > > talking!
> >
> >
> > ...remember the days when you said
> 'notingburger'
> > and its all a witch hunt? Its not just that
> > Manafort is talking - he is guilty of multiple
> > counts of Conspiracy Against the United States,
> > bank fraud, money laundering and more. I know
> to
> > you, a Trumptard this means nothing. To anyone
> > with a brain this is a dark day for the USA and
> > does not bode well for the orange one.
> >
> > you can read the agreement here
> >
> https://www.scribd.com/document/388613725/Manafort
>
> > -Plea-Agreement#fullscreen&from_embed
>
>
> Well I think u have overlooked 30 years of sadness
> by the Clintons. And fbi collusion against trump.
>
> I wish u democrats cared about laws and corruption
> when u have the office
30 years of investigations that have yielded Bill lying about a BJ. Thats it - 30 years and millions. Donnie has been under investigation a little over a year and half his campaign crew are convicted felons.
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> does not bode well Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Emmrr Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Ut oh libtards, hahahaha! Looks like manafort
> > > talking!
> >
> >
> > ...remember the days when you said
> 'notingburger'
> > and its all a witch hunt? Its not just that
> > Manafort is talking - he is guilty of multiple
> > counts of Conspiracy Against the United States,
> > bank fraud, money laundering and more. I know
> to
> > you, a Trumptard this means nothing. To anyone
> > with a brain this is a dark day for the USA and
> > does not bode well for the orange one.
> >
> > you can read the agreement here
> >
> https://www.scribd.com/document/388613725/Manafort
>
> > -Plea-Agreement#fullscreen&from_embed
>
>
> Well I think u have overlooked 30 years of sadness
> by the Clintons. And fbi collusion against trump.
>
> I wish u democrats cared about laws and corruption
> when u have the office
30 years of investigations that have yielded Bill lying about a BJ. Thats it - 30 years and millions. Donnie has been under investigation a little over a year and half his campaign crew are convicted felons.
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
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funny as shit
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Date: September 15, 2018 01:03PM
read the plea agreement - manafort waived EVERYTHING. No statue of limitations, no money for book deals, cooperation agreement is forever, waives request to change venue if new trial, waives right to an attorney when questioned by law enforcement.
What a deal
What a deal
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
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waive his rights?
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Date: September 15, 2018 02:27PM
how can they make Paul waive his rights? Especially if he is innocent of the crimes for the upcoming trial?
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
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Paul Song Bird Manafort
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Date: September 15, 2018 03:04PM
You can waive rights - read the plea he has waved almost all his rights.
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
Posted by:
seer of things
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Date: September 16, 2018 11:48AM
The deal seems stupid - why give up all your rights?
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
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Manafort is 69
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Date: September 16, 2018 02:39PM
Manafort is 69 ten years in sentencing one way or the other is half to 3/4 of that fat fucks remaining life.
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
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No Pardon?
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Date: September 18, 2018 11:10AM
Manafort is 69 Wrote:
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> Manafort is 69 ten years in sentencing one way or
> the other is half to 3/4 of that fat fucks
> remaining life.
It's interesting that Mueller flipped him. Mueller was must of played one hell of a card or Manafort knows Trump will be impeached before he is pardoned.
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> Manafort is 69 ten years in sentencing one way or
> the other is half to 3/4 of that fat fucks
> remaining life.
It's interesting that Mueller flipped him. Mueller was must of played one hell of a card or Manafort knows Trump will be impeached before he is pardoned.
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
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caught dead to rights
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Date: September 18, 2018 11:29AM
No Pardon? Wrote:
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> Manafort is 69 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Manafort is 69 ten years in sentencing one way
> or
> > the other is half to 3/4 of that fat fucks
> > remaining life.
>
> It's interesting that Mueller flipped him.
> Mueller was must of played one hell of a card or
> Manafort knows Trump will be impeached before he
> is pardoned.
Or, Manafort realized he was caught dead to rights and there was no rescue coming from Donald Trump. Lol, crook turned rat. Trump richly deserves Manafort and vice versa.
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> Manafort is 69 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Manafort is 69 ten years in sentencing one way
> or
> > the other is half to 3/4 of that fat fucks
> > remaining life.
>
> It's interesting that Mueller flipped him.
> Mueller was must of played one hell of a card or
> Manafort knows Trump will be impeached before he
> is pardoned.
Or, Manafort realized he was caught dead to rights and there was no rescue coming from Donald Trump. Lol, crook turned rat. Trump richly deserves Manafort and vice versa.
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
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Trumps Chimpo Chumps
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Date: September 18, 2018 08:21PM
caught dead to rights Wrote:
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> No Pardon? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Manafort is 69 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Manafort is 69 ten years in sentencing one
> way
> > or
> > > the other is half to 3/4 of that fat fucks
> > > remaining life.
> >
> > It's interesting that Mueller flipped him.
> > Mueller was must of played one hell of a card
> or
> > Manafort knows Trump will be impeached before
> he
> > is pardoned.
>
> Or, Manafort realized he was caught dead to rights
> and there was no rescue coming from Donald Trump.
> Lol, crook turned rat. Trump richly deserves
> Manafort and vice versa.
Probably a combination of the two.
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> No Pardon? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Manafort is 69 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Manafort is 69 ten years in sentencing one
> way
> > or
> > > the other is half to 3/4 of that fat fucks
> > > remaining life.
> >
> > It's interesting that Mueller flipped him.
> > Mueller was must of played one hell of a card
> or
> > Manafort knows Trump will be impeached before
> he
> > is pardoned.
>
> Or, Manafort realized he was caught dead to rights
> and there was no rescue coming from Donald Trump.
> Lol, crook turned rat. Trump richly deserves
> Manafort and vice versa.
Probably a combination of the two.
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
Posted by:
take him out back
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Date: September 18, 2018 08:40PM
caught dead to rights Wrote:
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> No Pardon? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Manafort is 69 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Manafort is 69 ten years in sentencing one
> way
> > or
> > > the other is half to 3/4 of that fat fucks
> > > remaining life.
> >
> > It's interesting that Mueller flipped him.
> > Mueller was must of played one hell of a card
> or
> > Manafort knows Trump will be impeached before
> he
> > is pardoned.
>
> Or, Manafort realized he was caught dead to rights
> and there was no rescue coming from Donald Trump.
> Lol, crook turned rat. Trump richly deserves
> Manafort and vice versa.
Manafort fucked himself - he was hoping for the home run. Be loyal, go to trial two times and never rat Trump out. Im sure he was betting his odds were better with Trump pardoning him than a plea deal from the start. Unfortunately the long shot didnt come in for Paul. Now his plea deal sucks - possibly the worst plea ever agreed to. It offers nothing but a chance at reduced sentence and only if Mueller likes the tune Manafort sings. Also Manafort loses EVERYTHING he owns. All of it. And no pardon will get his shit back and unless the pardon is for future crimes he is likely to be indicted under the plea after a pardon.
Good things happen to good people. Trump, ur next you fat fuck.
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> No Pardon? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Manafort is 69 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Manafort is 69 ten years in sentencing one
> way
> > or
> > > the other is half to 3/4 of that fat fucks
> > > remaining life.
> >
> > It's interesting that Mueller flipped him.
> > Mueller was must of played one hell of a card
> or
> > Manafort knows Trump will be impeached before
> he
> > is pardoned.
>
> Or, Manafort realized he was caught dead to rights
> and there was no rescue coming from Donald Trump.
> Lol, crook turned rat. Trump richly deserves
> Manafort and vice versa.
Manafort fucked himself - he was hoping for the home run. Be loyal, go to trial two times and never rat Trump out. Im sure he was betting his odds were better with Trump pardoning him than a plea deal from the start. Unfortunately the long shot didnt come in for Paul. Now his plea deal sucks - possibly the worst plea ever agreed to. It offers nothing but a chance at reduced sentence and only if Mueller likes the tune Manafort sings. Also Manafort loses EVERYTHING he owns. All of it. And no pardon will get his shit back and unless the pardon is for future crimes he is likely to be indicted under the plea after a pardon.
Good things happen to good people. Trump, ur next you fat fuck.
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
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Manafort the Rat
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Date: September 18, 2018 09:22PM
I still can't figure out why Manafort flipped. What did Mueller say that made Manafort forget about a pardon from Trump?
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
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Follow the Money
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Date: September 19, 2018 11:03AM
Manafort knows where the money went so Trump has to be shaking in his boots.
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
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Next Up... Manafort is a Liar!
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Date: September 19, 2018 10:13PM
You have to enjoy the way Trump says "Manafort is a great guy and if he tells the truth there is nothing to worry about."
Basically, the same response Trump has given to all the other people like Cohen.
The next statement Trump will be making about Manafort is "Manafort is a horrible campaign manager and he can't be trusted. A big liar."
Basically, the same response Trump has given to all the other people like Cohen.
The next statement Trump will be making about Manafort is "Manafort is a horrible campaign manager and he can't be trusted. A big liar."
Re: Manafort also waived his right to have an attorney present at any interviews with federal investigators
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Check it Dawg
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Date: September 20, 2018 03:58PM
Manafort is going to jail for the rest of his life. He shouldn't of hid all that money in 31 different companies and 50 bank accounts.