With the cost of a college education right now, is it really worth the price? 1st you lose 4 years of earning wages and 4 years of experience. Wouldn't you be better off using the money you'd spend on tuition,on the down payment of a townhouse or Condo?

A question for yee Wrote:
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> With the cost of a college education right now, is
> it really worth the price? 1st you lose 4 years of
> earning wages and 4 years of experience. Wouldn't
> you be better off using the money you'd spend on
> tuition,on the down payment of a townhouse or
> Condo?

No. Locking yourself into a dead end hourly wage situation with minimal chance for advancement or wage increases is economic suicide.

Go to NOVA, get straight A'2 and transfer to any name brand university in the state and get an economically viable degree that will land you a salaried position in the Beltway economy. You will be Golden if you have a work ethic and perform.

Otherwise you are fucked.

For all the reasons you mentioned no 4 years of college is not worth the cost. One would be better off taking a job and classes that enhances their field until they get a degree. Just think of all the money wasted by parents who's kids returned home after 4 years of art and are still living in moms basement at 35.

When I was in college yes. You could go to JMU for about $8000/yr. When I hear about these kids graduating in 2016 at 21 and owing $100K - 150K it makes me wonder.

Business Owner has today given the best advice I have ever seen on this stupid site. If you want to stay here or in the area get that degree. Either private biz or fed will pick you up, and it is worth it in the long run..

If you want to to waste thousands of dollars on a libtard indoctrination, go right ahead.

Indoctrination Wrote:
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> If you want to to waste thousands of dollars on a
> libtard indoctrination, go right ahead.

+1 Cost aside, the liberal indoctrination is the main concern. Do your research to find a good college void of the liberal bullshit. I also agree about 2 year college then transfer to 4 year university. Worked for me and I'm doing quite well. Work hard along the way.

Business Owner is more or less correct. It is worth the investment if you do it right. I went to Nova for three years, taking classes here and there while working. I got good grades, transferred to UVA and will graduate in the fall. I will be graduating with a degree in Sociology, which by itself isn't economically viable, but i plan to go to grad school for something public policy related. The way I see it, unless you are majoring in the STEM field, it doesn't really matter what you major in, because in this economy, you need at least a Masters to avoid taking on jobs involving serving food and folding clothes. Go to Nova or some trade school, figure out what you want to do and start your career.

>With the cost of a college education right now, is it really worth the price?

Yes it is. As other posters have noted, libtard indocrtination is rampant at colleges and universities, so choose wisely. If you can transfer credits from a NOVA community college to a top-tier Virginia University, do that as quick as you can.

I graduated from a third-rate college (Pitt) with a two degrees, and do well in NOVA. If I didn't have these degrees, I'd be waiting on customers at Ledo's Pizza.

Find something you love, and pour your heart and soul into it. You are obviously smart, so make your way through life!

CeTCD Wrote:
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> >With the cost of a college education right now,
> is it really worth the price?
>
> Yes it is. As other posters have noted, libtard
> indocrtination is rampant at colleges and
> universities, so choose wisely. If you can
> transfer credits from a NOVA community college to
> a top-tier Virginia University, do that as quick
> as you can.
>
> I graduated from a third-rate college (Pitt) with
> a two degrees, and do well in NOVA. If I didn't
> have these degrees, I'd be waiting on customers at
> Ledo's Pizza.
>
> Find something you love, and pour your heart and
> soul into it. You are obviously smart, so make
> your way through life!

I wouldn't call Pitt a third rate college. It has a pretty solid reputation, especially in STEM fields.

Your question is way too broad. It really depends on your interests, talents, and ambition, what kind of lifestyle you aspire to, where you want to live, and your financial resources. First, not everyone is meant for college. You can make a decent to good living as a skilled blue collar worker (plumber, electrician, HVAC, etc.). If you want to be a nurse, doctor, physical therapist, lawyer, engineer, etc. then you obviously need at least one college degree.

Everyone else falls in the middle. If you want to live around here or any semi-urban area and work a white collar job, then you'll need a college degree - in something. Many of not most people do not actually work in the area that they majored in. As others have pointed out, the most economical way by far to get a degree is to go to NVCC (Northern Virginia Commnity College) and then transfer to another in-state school - the more prestigious the better.

Could you tell us more about your personal circumstances and what you aspire to?

No, college isn't worth it. Save the money, spend it on clothes & become an escort. Market for escorts in DC area is strong, regardless of sex.

College is a waste of money. I quit after 2nd year and got a job with an insurance company as an investigator and gradually worked my way up to Eastern Region Manager (with quite a few insurance school courses along the way) and now I'm making over 6 figures and I all really do now is tell other people what to do. Retirement is 5 years away and things are looking good.

It Depends Wrote:
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> Your question is way too broad. It really depends
> on your interests, talents, and ambition, what
> kind of lifestyle you aspire to, where you want to
> live, and your financial resources. First, not
> everyone is meant for college. You can make a
> decent to good living as a skilled blue collar
> worker (plumber, electrician, HVAC, etc.). If you
> want to be a nurse, doctor, physical therapist,
> lawyer, engineer, etc. then you obviously need at
> least one college degree.
>
> Everyone else falls in the middle. If you want to
> live around here or any semi-urban area and work a
> white collar job, then you'll need a college
> degree - in something. Many of not most people do
> not actually work in the area that they majored
> in. As others have pointed out, the most
> economical way by far to get a degree is to go to
> NVCC (Northern Virginia Commnity College) and then
> transfer to another in-state school - the more
> prestigious the better.
>
> Could you tell us more about your personal
> circumstances and what you aspire to?

My question was purely rhetorical. I graduated 30 yrs ago and was able to pay my way thru college. I Just don't see the economic benefits of starting life so far in debt i guess.

Join the military and get a tech job. Go to college through the military gi bill and get some college credits from the training. 8 years later a person can easily have a bachelors degree and be debt free with military and technical experience on their resume.

JMU is $25k a year. 25k SHOULD cover all four years. Insane. All colleges are like this now. It's because student loans are so readily available via FAFSA etc. If loans weren't available, public schools would be forced to bring costs down to earth.

It's over.

The millennials fucked it up for everyone who comes after.

A four-year degree was mandatory for a decent job since the late '80s. The reason is "disparate impact" theory. Google it. The way around it was to require a four-year degree for jobs that used to be done by high school dropouts. For whatever reason, the EEO overlords let that slide. Anyone without a degree did not count in the denominator when hiring rates by sex/ethnicity bucket were reported to the OFCCP.

Higher ed responded by giving out degrees for cash. And the cash came from taxpayers in the form of government-guaranteed student loans. Underwater basket-weaving (an old joke) is a perfectly marketable skill compared to the myriad repackagings of watered-down marxism kids are majoring in nowadays.

Bottom line is that businesses that want to stay in business are getting smarter about how to keep undesirables out of their applicant pools. The four-year degree has lost its usefulness.

Indoctrination Wrote:
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> If you want to to waste thousands of dollars on a
> libtard indoctrination, go right ahead.

Shut up, that's stupid. You go to college to learn FACTS, not to learn how to vote for Hillary by a tutorial major or something like that. Besides, if you do not choose to go to college for that lame reason, you will miss out on a prospering society and instead be left behind in the woods with your "Make America Great Again" hat and improper morals.

Say "libtard" one more time, just say it.

absoslutely NOT, but google is

college university should teach Universal learning, so that all graduates are speaking the exact same language: they do not

universities should offer employers a guarantee of good learning and lab performance: they do not - their is significant confusion with grading, school quality and also ... ONLINE DEGREES

universities should have professors that can answer questions: many have chosen huge classrooms where questions simply are impractical - and the teacher is but a parrot of the book

universities should attract grant money and employers hiring students - most do neither

infact many universities are communist breeding grounds, hiring communist into the Wash DC teachers union who are letting their kin skate through classes while punishing denizens

the communist proffesors are tranmitting project results to asia or other foreign countries using USA grant money and or USA student loan money

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all very significant problems which WERE NOT MEANT TO HAPPEN

let me restate that...

absoslutely NOT, but google is

college university should teach Universal learning, so that all graduates are speaking the exact same language: they do not

universities should offer employers a guarantee of good learning and lab performance: they do not - their is significant confusion with grading, school quality and also ... ONLINE DEGREES

universities should have professors that can answer questions: many have chosen huge classrooms where questions simply are impractical - and the teacher is but a parrot of the book

universities should attract grant money and employers hiring students - most do neither

infact many universities are communist breeding grounds, hiring communist into the Wash DC teachers union who are letting their kin skate through classes while punishing denizens

the communist proffesors are tranmitting project results to asia or other foreign countries using USA grant money and or USA student loan money

all very significant problems which WERE NOT MEANT TO HAPPEN

- dA rEaL fArTiAn - Wrote:
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> Indoctrination Wrote:
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> -----
> > If you want to to waste thousands of dollars on
> a
> > libtard indoctrination, go right ahead.
>
> Shut up, that's stupid. You go to college to learn
> FACTS, not to learn how to vote for Hillary by a
> tutorial major or something like that. Besides, if
> you do not choose to go to college for that lame
> reason, you will miss out on a prospering society
> and instead be left behind in the woods with your
> "Make America Great Again" hat and improper
> morals.
>
> Say "libtard" one more time, just say it.

I'm willing to bet you make less than $20 an hour and have no degree. Fucktard Gerrymanderer lib.

- dA rEaL fArTiAn - Wrote:
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> Indoctrination Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If you want to to waste thousands of dollars on
> a
> > libtard indoctrination, go right ahead.
>
> Shut up, that's stupid. You go to college to learn
> FACTS, not to learn how to vote for Hillary by a
> tutorial major or something like that. Besides, if
> you do not choose to go to college for that lame
> reason, you will miss out on a prospering society
> and instead be left behind in the woods with your
> "Make America Great Again" hat and improper
> morals.
>
> Say "libtard" one more time, just say it.


libtard

noooo brainer Wrote:
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> Join the military and get a tech job. Go to
> college through the military gi bill and get some
> college credits from the training. 8 years later a
> person can easily have a bachelors degree and be
> debt free with military and technical experience
> on their resume.


Best idea yet.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-03/get-college-get-job-get-poorer-students-are-worse-after-attending-profit-colleges

Never go to college to find a good job.
Go to learn how to start and run your own business.
Lifetime job security and you make 5x what your peers will ever make.

Ask me how I know.

I went to Longwood for 6 years and graduated with a 2.6 gpa. Got me a do-little government job for 30 years and retired. I feel like I pissed my life away. Sadly my kids repeated this mistake, one at CNU and one at MWU. I try to talk to them about it but they don't listen.

Full potential Wrote:
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> Never go to college to find a good job.
> Go to learn how to start and run your own
> business.
> Lifetime job security and you make 5x what your
> peers will ever make.
>
> Ask me how I know.


How U NO?

Because after one year, I did it.

Full potential Wrote:
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> Because after one year, I did it.

More details may be helpful for some folks here looking to pave their path forward.