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White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
Posted by: Fat~Bottom~Girl ()
Date: January 13, 2014 11:23AM

by Yvette Carnell
If you pay any attention to right wing media, then you know that folks on the right are obsessed with unraveling the safety net, mostly because they believe that the safety net benefits mostly black and brown people:

All of the candidates delighted in calling President Obama the food stamp president during the 2012 campaign.

Also during the campaign, Rick Santorum said “I don’t want to make black people’s lives better by giving them other people’s money.”

Newt Gingrich famously added, “I will tell black people to demand paychecks instead of food stamps.”

As we edge closer to Obama making some ‘grand bargain’ to c*t Social Security and Medicare, it is important to remember that the vast majority of people who receive government benefits are white. In fact, whites receive a disproportionate amount of benefits.

The Economix blog at the New York Times reported the following in February of last year:

Another finding of the study is that the distribution of benefits no longer aligns with the demography of poverty. African-Americans, who make up 22 percent of the poor, receive 14 percent of government benefits, close to their 12 percent population share.

White non-Hispanics, who make up 42 percent of the poor, receive 69 percent of government benefits – again, much closer to their 64 percent population share.

Read that again. It says blacks comprise 22 percent of the poor, but blacks only take in 14 percent of government benefits. Conversely, whites make up 42 percent of the poor , but take in a disproportionate 69 percent of government benefits.

If Republicans c*t these programs, as part of the sequester or any other backdoor maneuver, their issue will be with their own base, not blacks. Although, I’m not yet convinced that some white right wingers wouldn’t starve themselves if it meant robbing a black or brown person of a spoonful of broth.

Yvette Carnell is a former Capitol Hill and campaign staffer turned writer. She is currently an editor and contributor to Yourblackworld. You can reach Yvette via Twitter @YvetteDC or on Facebook.

http://www.yourblackworld.net/2013/03/black-news/white-people-make-up-42-of-the-poor-but-take-in-whopping-69-of-government-benefits/

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Re: White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
Posted by: DCRT ()
Date: January 13, 2014 11:28AM

We covered this already. White people are better at cheating the welfare system. Also better Medicare and tax return ripoffs.

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Re: White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
Posted by: BEH ()
Date: January 13, 2014 12:31PM

But who is the fattest with the nicest nails and the latest hairdoos?

http://youtu.be/QfDKlstJlNs

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Re: White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
Posted by: Fat~Bottom~Girl ()
Date: January 13, 2014 12:56PM


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Re: White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
Posted by: oinkity ()
Date: January 13, 2014 01:17PM

Mislead by counting all government benefits instead of those targeted at the poor.

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Re: White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
Posted by: Typical Libtard Manipulation ()
Date: January 13, 2014 01:31PM

Fat~Bottom~Girl Wrote:
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>
> The Economix blog at the New York Times reported
> the following in February of last year:
>
> Another finding of the study is that the
> distribution of benefits no longer aligns with the
> demography of poverty. African-Americans, who make
> up 22 percent of the poor, receive 14 percent of
> government benefits, close to their 12 percent
> population share.
>
> White non-Hispanics, who make up 42 percent of the
> poor, receive 69 percent of government benefits
> – again, much closer to their 64 percent
> population share.
>


a. The author, for obvious reasons, attempts to hide that the study was done by an advocacy group for lower income groups, the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.

b. They're counting Social Security, Medicare, unemployment, etc., which are contributory programs and reflect higher amounts for those who have worked their whole lives, veterans benefits, Federal and military retirement, and similar programs, versus what she's attempting to portray by omission as government assistance programs.

c. She also fails to mention, as noted in the NYT article directly, that most of this reflects a demographic shift to a broader population base due an overall aging population (versus welfare programs).

d. It's a bullshit article. If you look at who receives the bulk of WELFARE programs, blacks receive a greatly disproportionate share in any way measured.

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Re: White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: January 13, 2014 04:49PM

White people take 69 % of gov't benefits? Who would of thought? Looking at this site I would of thought it would have been 69 % black.

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Re: White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
Posted by: Pesky details ()
Date: January 13, 2014 04:55PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> White people take 69 % of gov't benefits? Who
> would of thought? Looking at this site I would of
> thought it would have been 69 % black.


It is if you don't count the non-welfare payments.

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Re: White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: January 13, 2014 05:00PM

The only people that care about the race composition of the poor are ferfux, the OP of this thread, and kids in Sociology 200 class.

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Re: White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
Posted by: what? ()
Date: January 13, 2014 06:47PM

eesh Wrote:
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> The only people that care about the race
> composition of the poor are ferfux, the OP of this
> thread, and kids in Sociology 200 class.


What is your obsession with "ferfux" Ive never even seen that person post on here. WTF?

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Re: White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
Posted by: Ura ()
Date: January 13, 2014 06:53PM

what? Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The only people that care about the race
> > composition of the poor are ferfux, the OP of
> this
> > thread, and kids in Sociology 200 class.
>
>
> What is your obsession with "ferfux" Ive never
> even seen that person post on here. WTF?


noob-s500x470-48265-580.jpg

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Re: White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
Posted by: 6m3yN ()
Date: January 13, 2014 07:25PM

You can't stick a butter knife in a wall socket. You have to use keys. Ask me how I know.

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Re: White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
Posted by: Numbledenutz ()
Date: January 13, 2014 07:56PM

mostly because they believe that the safety net benefits mostly black and brown people:


Incorrect, mubledeeznutz. Mostly because they know that the nation is broke, and can't afford to continue supporting losers of all stripes.

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Re: White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
Posted by: Go ()
Date: January 13, 2014 08:04PM

6m3yN Wrote:
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> You can't stick a butter knife in a wall socket.
> You have to use keys. Ask me how I know.


how do you know?

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Re: White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: January 13, 2014 09:50PM

what? Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The only people that care about the race
> > composition of the poor are ferfux, the OP of
> this
> > thread, and kids in Sociology 200 class.
>
>
> What is your obsession with "ferfux" Ive never
> even seen that person post on here. WTF?




Fat Bottom Girl is ferfux.......and you know that.

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Re: White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
Posted by: Liberal Logic 35 ()
Date: January 13, 2014 10:35PM

what? Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The only people that care about the race
> > composition of the poor are ferfux, the OP of
> this
> > thread, and kids in Sociology 200 class.
>
>
> What is your obsession with "ferfux" Ive never
> even seen that person post on here. WTF?


You have he just no longer uses that name.

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Re: White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
Posted by: Hey kids! ()
Date: January 14, 2014 06:12AM

6m3yN Wrote:
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> You can't stick a butter knife in a wall socket.
> You have to use keys. Ask me how I know.

A paperclip works best in the smaller slot, nothing will happen with the larger slot or round hole.

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Re: White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
Posted by: USMC ()
Date: January 14, 2014 06:46AM

"whites" pay 98% into the govt in taxes, so the ROI by race as the OP notes sucks

The OP is pointing out that race has nothing to do with being poor.

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Re: White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
Posted by: Sucka wahhhh ()
Date: January 14, 2014 04:55PM

USMC--- Military... at least it ain't welfare. Well maybe it is?!?!

-Sucka wahhh

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Re: White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
Posted by: Fat~Bottom~Tgirl ()
Date: January 14, 2014 10:36PM

Who pays the most in taxes? Whites. The rest doesn't matter.

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Re: White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: January 14, 2014 10:39PM

Not only are white people only 42 percent of the poor but 69 percent of the pay out for benefits. I bet they are heavy majority Republican too.

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Re: White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: January 14, 2014 10:41PM

There are a lot of broke ass worthless Republican shitty trailer park resident meth dealing white trashy redneck beer can shooting 1988 pick up owning hillbilly rat turd motherfuckers out there.

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Re: White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
Posted by: Games Libs Play ()
Date: January 14, 2014 11:21PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Not only are white people only 42 percent of the
> poor but 69 percent of the pay out for benefits.
> I bet they are heavy majority Republican too.


That's only because they gamed the numbers.

To get to bogus 69% number, they had to include Social Security. Since the total dollar value for it is very large, it skews the percentage for whites much higher. Without that and if you look by program, particularly in the case of welfare programs, then it's not even close. Minorities take far more than their relative numbers in the population.

They also did the standard trick of focusing the discussion on "whites" and then segregating (no pun intended) minorities into sub-groups in order to make their respective numbers look smaller in comparison. If you did the same looking at "non-whites" their dollars/percentages look much worse.

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