tl;dr version-

It looks fishy. The IRS claims of conservative targeting being "isolated cases" have proven false. Hard drive crashes have been very suspiciously timed. IRS heavy Lois Lerner has been proven a rabid partisan.

Not appointing a special prosecutor to investigate furthers the appearance of complicity by the Obama administration.






Newly released emails make President Barack Obama’s refusal to name a special counsel to investigate the Internal Revenue Service over its harassment of dozens of political groups that opposed his re-election in 2012 look more like a coverup than ever.

In the emails from 2012, then-IRS official Lois Lerner — the key instigator of hostile agency actions toward conservative groups — describes Republicans as “crazies” and “assholes,” confirming her bias beyond any further debate. This is the same official who invoked her rights against self-incrimination in refusing to testify before Congress and whose computer hard drive was wiped clean in mysterious circumstances.

How much more has to come out before the media stop giving the slightest credence to the Democratic talking points about this being a manufactured controversy? How much more hard evidence is needed?

In any context, the IRS’ behavior in this matter is outrageous. It is arguably the scariest government agency of all. That it had an ideological enemies list should alarm all Americans, not just those being targeted. But if the IRS harassment of the president’s political foes came after White House encouragement, that is an abuse of executive power more serious than anything seen since the Nixon years.

Yet the president somehow has gotten away with simultaneously declaring this a “phony scandal” while refusing to cooperate with investigations that could prove him right.

That has to stop. It’s time to appoint a special counsel and let her or him go wherever the trail leads.


http://web.utsandiego.com/news/2014/jul/30/lois-lerner-obama-irs-coverup-nixonian/

idontlikebeingrightaboutshitlikethisbutiam



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Since Obumbler jumped the gun on calling it a "phony scandal" he must have known.
Holder must be shitting bricks.

it'd be hilarious if they just pardoned her. I'd live to see all these retarded teabagger morons going complete apeshit if that happened

Tea Party Failturds Wrote:
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> it'd be hilarious if they just pardoned her. I'd
> live to see all these retarded teabagger morons
> going complete apeshit if that happened


Pardon her for what?


She told us all she didn't do anything.

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Obama would pardon her, because it is the wrong thing to do. Any predictions of who Barry will pardon?

True The Vote ! Wrote:
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> Obama would pardon her, because it is the wrong
> thing to do. Any predictions of who Barry will
> pardon?


Mumia

Richard Reed

Jose Padillo

Jared Loughner

Squeaky Fromme

OJ

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Charles Manson. Black Panthers, and any remaining Gitmos, Rezko.

+1

Rezko AND Blago....


Lee Malvo.


Political prisoners.

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WingNut Wrote:
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> Tea Party Failturds Wrote:
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> > it'd be hilarious if they just pardoned her.
> I'd
> > live to see all these retarded teabagger morons
> > going complete apeshit if that happened
>
>
> Pardon her for what?
>
>
> She told us all she didn't do anything.


a president can grant a pardon you idiot

are teabaggers all this stoopid? Wrote:
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> WingNut Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tea Party Failturds Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > it'd be hilarious if they just pardoned her.
> > I'd
> > > live to see all these retarded teabagger
> morons
> > > going complete apeshit if that happened
> >
> >
> > Pardon her for what?
> >
> >
> > She told us all she didn't do anything.
>
>
> a president can grant a pardon you idiot


Pardon her for what?

Did she commit a crime?

Will it just be a blanket admission that she did?

You fag.

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Chelsea Manning and Bo Bergdahl.

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> Chelsea Manning and Bo Bergdahl.

I can see The Obobo slow dancing with Chelsea at the WH..

Snowden sounds like like he could be on your list.

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Any black cop killers get the nod from Holder.

They're all innocent and even if they're not, then it's the white man's fault anyway.

I don't favor a special prosecutor. We've had too many of these go rogue in the past. I do favor a special investigatory who had plenary power to access government information and talk to government employees without superiors present and who had the authority to recommend but not initiate specific prosecutions.

"Newly released emails make President Barack Obama’s refusal to name a special counsel to investigate the Internal Revenue Service over its harassment of dozens of political groups that opposed his re-election in 2012 look more like a cover-up than ever."

No, not really.

PS - Scooter Libby

Conserva-tards!

LoLz!

Conserva-tards! Wrote:
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> "Newly released emails make President Barack
> Obama’s refusal to name a special counsel to
> investigate the Internal Revenue Service over its
> harassment of dozens of political groups that
> opposed his re-election in 2012 look more like a
> cover-up than ever."
>
> No, not really.
>
> PS - Scooter Libby
>
> Conserva-tards!
>
> LoLz!

Libby was prosecuted idiot. For much less than what was happening at the IRS. Even after it was known that he wasn't really very significant just as a way to tag somebody associated with Cheney.

kybdc Wrote:
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> Libby was prosecuted.

And pardoned by Bush.

Conserva-tards!

LoLz!

Special prosecutor in the Valerie Plame case was Patrick Fitzgerald.

Why no special prosecutor here?

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Conserva-tards! Wrote:
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> kybdc Wrote:
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> > Libby was prosecuted.
>
> And pardoned by Bush.
>
> Conserva-tards!
>
> LoLz!


Wrong.

Quote

On June 5, 2007, the presiding trial judge, Reggie B. Walton, sentenced Libby to 30 months in federal prison, a fine of $250,000, and two years of supervised release, including 400 hours of community service,[14][15][16][17] and then ordered Libby to begin his sentence immediately.[18] On July 2, 2007, when Libby's appeal of Walton's order failed, President Bush commuted Libby's 30-month prison sentence, leaving the other parts of his sentence intact.[19][20] In commuting Libby's prison term, Bush stated: "I am commuting the portion of Mr. Libby's sentence that required him to spend thirty months in prison. ... My decision to commute his prison sentence leaves in place a harsh punishment for Mr. Libby. The reputation he gained through his years of public service and professional work in the legal community is forever damaged."[19] After Libby paid his monetary fine and penalty totaling $250,400, Judge Walton queried aspects of the presidential commutation,[17][21] and lawyers filed their briefs supporting Libby's serving supervised release, resolving the issue and thus clearing the way for Libby to begin the rest of his sentence, the two years of supervised release and 400 hours of community service.[22][23]

On December 10, 2007, Libby's lawyers announced that he would drop his appeal against his conviction in the case, leaving intact his remaining sentence and fine and leaving on his record his felony conviction, on condition of a full presidential pardon.[24] The next day, December 11, 2007, Bush issued 29 pardons but did not include Libby among them.[25][26] As a consequence of his conviction in United States v. Libby, Libby's license to practice law was suspended by the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania in December 2007.[27] On April 3, 2007, the District of Columbia Bar suspended his license to practice law in Washington, D.C., and recommended his disbarment pending his appeal of his conviction.[28][29] On March 20, 2008, after he dropped his appeal, he was disbarred by the District of Columbia Court of Appeals, in Washington, D.C., at least until 2012.[30]

Section 501(c)(4) of the tax code requires that in order to gain tax-exempt status, an organization must not be organized for profit and must be operated "exclusively for the promotion of social welfare."

Since the 1950s, "exclusively" was interpreted to mean "primarily," and political activities were not considered in themselves to be "social welfare" activities. A 50 percent threshold has ben used to make the distinction since then.

The IRS is required to determine whether an applicant organization qualifies for tax-exempt status under the law. Since "primarily" political organizations do not qualify, the IRS investigated the claims of both liberal and conservative political organizations.

No conservative organizations were denied tax-exempt status.

However, three liberal-leaning "Emerge America" groups from individual states were denied tax exempt status under the law.

The FBI reported earlier this year that there was no evidence to support the filing of criminal charges in connection with this affair, specifically noting that there was no evidence of "enemy hunting."

to be clear Wrote:
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> Section 501(c)(4) of the tax code requires that in
> order to gain tax-exempt status, an organization
> must not be organized for profit and must be
> operated "exclusively for the promotion of social
> welfare."
>
> Since the 1950s, "exclusively" was interpreted to
> mean "primarily," and political activities were
> not considered in themselves to be "social
> welfare" activities. A 50 percent threshold has
> ben used to make the distinction since then.
>
> The IRS is required to determine whether an
> applicant organization qualifies for tax-exempt
> status under the law. Since "primarily" political
> organizations do not qualify, the IRS investigated
> the claims of both liberal and conservative
> political organizations.
>
> No conservative organizations were denied
> tax-exempt status.
>
> However, three liberal-leaning "Emerge America"
> groups from individual states were denied tax
> exempt status under the law.
>
> The FBI reported earlier this year that there was
> no evidence to support the filing of criminal
> charges in connection with this affair,
> specifically noting that there was no evidence of
> "enemy hunting."


Again, basically completely wrong.

V9kwG Wrote:
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> to be clear Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Section 501(c)(4) of the tax code requires that
> in
> > order to gain tax-exempt status, an
> organization
> > must not be organized for profit and must be
> > operated "exclusively for the promotion of
> social
> > welfare."
> >
> > Since the 1950s, "exclusively" was interpreted
> to
> > mean "primarily," and political activities were
> > not considered in themselves to be "social
> > welfare" activities. A 50 percent threshold has
> > ben used to make the distinction since then.
> >
> > The IRS is required to determine whether an
> > applicant organization qualifies for tax-exempt
> > status under the law. Since "primarily"
> political
> > organizations do not qualify, the IRS
> investigated
> > the claims of both liberal and conservative
> > political organizations.
> >
> > No conservative organizations were denied
> > tax-exempt status.
> >
> > However, three liberal-leaning "Emerge America"
> > groups from individual states were denied tax
> > exempt status under the law.
> >
> > The FBI reported earlier this year that there
> was
> > no evidence to support the filing of criminal
> > charges in connection with this affair,
> > specifically noting that there was no evidence
> of
> > "enemy hunting."
>
>
> Again, basically completely wrong.

Why, because you heard otherwise on Fox News?

IRC 501(c)(4) provides for exemption of:
Civic leagues or organizations not organized for profit but operated
exclusively for the promotion of social welfare.
Local associations of employees, the membership of which is limited to the
employees of a designated person or persons in a particular municipality
and the net earnings of which are devoted exclusively to charitable,
educational, or recreational purposes.
The statutory terms disclose that IRC 501(c)(4) embraces two general
classifications:
a. Social welfare organizations, and
b. Local associations of employees.

V9kwG Wrote:
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> to be clear Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Section 501(c)(4) of the tax code requires that
> in
> > order to gain tax-exempt status, an
> organization
> > must not be organized for profit and must be
> > operated "exclusively for the promotion of
> social
> > welfare."
> >
> > Since the 1950s, "exclusively" was interpreted
> to
> > mean "primarily," and political activities were
> > not considered in themselves to be "social
> > welfare" activities. A 50 percent threshold has
> > ben used to make the distinction since then.
> >
> > The IRS is required to determine whether an
> > applicant organization qualifies for tax-exempt
> > status under the law. Since "primarily"
> political
> > organizations do not qualify, the IRS
> investigated
> > the claims of both liberal and conservative
> > political organizations.
> >
> > No conservative organizations were denied
> > tax-exempt status.
> >
> > However, three liberal-leaning "Emerge America"
> > groups from individual states were denied tax
> > exempt status under the law.
> >
> > The FBI reported earlier this year that there
> was
> > no evidence to support the filing of criminal
> > charges in connection with this affair,
> > specifically noting that there was no evidence
> of
> > "enemy hunting."
>
>
> Again, basically completely wrong.

I love it!

I have learned over the years, when one uses the word "basically," one is clearly displaying one’s self-regulated intellectual barriers. In other words, using the word “basically” in debate presents to the opposition an inability or unwillingness to grasp higher or complex concepts at a suitable level for the debate.

Fred Sanford Wrote:
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> V9kwG Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > to be clear Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Section 501(c)(4) of the tax code requires
> that
> > in
> > > order to gain tax-exempt status, an
> > organization
> > > must not be organized for profit and must be
> > > operated "exclusively for the promotion of
> > social
> > > welfare."
> > >
> > > Since the 1950s, "exclusively" was
> interpreted
> > to
> > > mean "primarily," and political activities
> were
> > > not considered in themselves to be "social
> > > welfare" activities. A 50 percent threshold
> has
> > > ben used to make the distinction since then.
> > >
> > > The IRS is required to determine whether an
> > > applicant organization qualifies for
> tax-exempt
> > > status under the law. Since "primarily"
> > political
> > > organizations do not qualify, the IRS
> > investigated
> > > the claims of both liberal and conservative
> > > political organizations.
> > >
> > > No conservative organizations were denied
> > > tax-exempt status.
> > >
> > > However, three liberal-leaning "Emerge
> America"
> > > groups from individual states were denied tax
> > > exempt status under the law.
> > >
> > > The FBI reported earlier this year that there
> > was
> > > no evidence to support the filing of criminal
> > > charges in connection with this affair,
> > > specifically noting that there was no
> evidence
> > of
> > > "enemy hunting."
> >
> >
> > Again, basically completely wrong.
>
> Why, because you heard otherwise on Fox News?
>
> IRC 501(c)(4) provides for exemption of:
> Civic leagues or organizations not organized for
> profit but operated
> exclusively for the promotion of social welfare.
> Local associations of employees, the membership
> of which is limited to the
> employees of a designated person or persons in a
> particular municipality
> and the net earnings of which are devoted
> exclusively to charitable,
> educational, or recreational purposes.
> The statutory terms disclose that IRC 501(c)(4)
> embraces two general
> classifications:
> a. Social welfare organizations, and
> b. Local associations of employees.


No, because I've followed the case and I know WTF I'm talking about versus you just parroting bs Citizen's United-type talking points.

First, the change to the 501(c)(4) requirements to were changed to a primarily basis in 1981 in an IRS ruling, which stated:

"[An] organization may carry on lawful political activities and remain exempt under section 501(c)(4) as long as it is primarily engaged in activities that promote social welfare."

Long before Citizen's United which only tangentially affected 501(c)(4)s other than in terms of limits to contributions, addressing private spending primarily.

Second, the inappropriate and disproportionate bias against conservative groups and prejudicial handling of applications is admitted by IRS and by Lerner herself. This is evidenced in the IG report and in direct testimony by IRS officials. The only ones who try to dispute this are liberal-leaning groups trying to establish some equivalence which doesn't hold up under any objective scrutiny. Final denials were not the primary issue. Long delays and non-approval (many of which still are pending today) functioned as effective denial and actually worse in many ways. As did far greater scrutiny of applications, extensive and inappropriate rounds of questioning, improper releases of confidential information, etc., which were not experienced by left-leaning groups.

Last, among many other points, the FBI did not say that there was no evidence. That came from a WSJ report of an unnamed source at the FBI saying that they had not found evidence to support specific criminal charges for political persecution at that point in time in the investigation. It did not say that there was no evidence or that such charges would not be filed. It also said "That could change, the officials cautioned, if unexpected evidence is discovered that alters their thinking." Which was prior to the release of much additional information and the criminal investigation continues with subsequent statements by Justice and FBI officials that no determination has been made with respect to any criminal charges. In fact, Deputy Attorney General James Cole, just revealed in testimony a few weeks ago that the criminal investigation had expanded to include "...investigating the circumstances of the lost emails from [former IRS official Lois Lerner's] computer."

6FxJn Wrote:
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> Conserva-tards! Wrote:
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> > kybdc Wrote:
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> > > Libby was prosecuted.
> >
> > And pardoned by Bush.
> >
> > Conserva-tards!
> >
> > LoLz!
>
>
> Wrong.

I should have written; "betrayed by Bush".

Conserva-tards!

LoLz!

There is not a smidgen of corruption.

You know that nothing will come of this.
Or Benghazi.