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Only Smart Guns to Be Sold in New Jersey starting 2017
Posted by:
eesh
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Date: February 19, 2014 02:00PM
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/02/robert-farago/nj-smart-guns-sale-2017/
http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2002/Bills/PL02/130_.HTM
According to a law passed in 2002, within three years of a smart gun being available for consumer purchase anywhere in the nation, only smart guns will be allowed to be sold in New Jersey.
Smart guns are now sold in California, so the clock is ticking in New Jersey.
What is a smart gun? It will only fire if a computer recognizes an authorized fingerprint or palm print.
http://www.armatix.de/iP1-Pistol.779.0.html?&L=1
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http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2002/Bills/PL02/130_.HTM
According to a law passed in 2002, within three years of a smart gun being available for consumer purchase anywhere in the nation, only smart guns will be allowed to be sold in New Jersey.
Smart guns are now sold in California, so the clock is ticking in New Jersey.
What is a smart gun? It will only fire if a computer recognizes an authorized fingerprint or palm print.
http://www.armatix.de/iP1-Pistol.779.0.html?&L=1
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Re: Only Smart Guns to Be Sold in New Jersey starting 2017
Posted by:
eesh
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Date: February 19, 2014 02:02PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/we-need-the-iphone-of-guns-will-smart-guns-transform-the-gun-industry/2014/02/17/6ebe76da-8f58-11e3-b227-12a45d109e03_story.html
http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/19/smart-gun-would-require-shooter-to-be-wearing-watch-before-firing/
http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/19/smart-gun-would-require-shooter-to-be-wearing-watch-before-firing/
Re: Only Smart Guns to Be Sold in New Jersey starting 2017
Posted by:
Wayne leGenius
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Date: February 19, 2014 02:32PM
If "guns don't kill people" how are they "smart." Never underestimate the stupidity of a redneck with a dangerous weapon.
Re: Only Smart Guns to Be Sold in New Jersey starting 2017
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 005
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Date: February 19, 2014 02:35PM
AKA gun sales will be very strong for the next 3 years so it wont make a difference, other than getting some people killed for not sleeping with their watch on of course.
Re: Only Smart Guns to Be Sold in New Jersey starting 2017
Posted by:
Wayne is Smart
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Date: February 19, 2014 02:38PM
What if criminals bring a short-range electronic jammer? You still got your frying pan!
Re: Only Smart Guns to Be Sold in New Jersey starting 2017
Posted by:
Mephisto 2 lazy to sign in
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Date: February 19, 2014 03:06PM
I support this as long as unauthorized users get the Judge Dredd treatment.
Re: Only Smart Guns to Be Sold in New Jersey starting 2017
Posted by:
eesh
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Date: February 26, 2014 06:56PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/02/20/smart-guns-new-jersey-california-washington-post-column/5610543/
New Jersey Senate Majority Leader Loretta Weinberg has written a letter to N.J. Attorney General John Jay Hoffman asking him to start the doomsday clock for "dumb gun" sales. If he follows the letter of the law, Hoffman will ignite a firestorm of protest from already beleaguered N.J. gun owners.
New Jersey gun owners don't want to lose access to, trade or face the confiscation of tried-and-true non-electronic firearms. They view electronic firearms as inherently unreliable. What if your finger's covered with dirt or blood? What if the electronic "smart gun" runs out of power? What if you need to use someone else's "smart gun" in an emergency?
New Jersey Senate Majority Leader Loretta Weinberg has written a letter to N.J. Attorney General John Jay Hoffman asking him to start the doomsday clock for "dumb gun" sales. If he follows the letter of the law, Hoffman will ignite a firestorm of protest from already beleaguered N.J. gun owners.
New Jersey gun owners don't want to lose access to, trade or face the confiscation of tried-and-true non-electronic firearms. They view electronic firearms as inherently unreliable. What if your finger's covered with dirt or blood? What if the electronic "smart gun" runs out of power? What if you need to use someone else's "smart gun" in an emergency?
Re: Only Smart Guns to Be Sold in New Jersey starting 2017
Posted by:
F3xLE
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Date: February 26, 2014 07:58PM
if a gun was smart and couldn't be pointed at one's self would people buy more or less ?
if a gun was smart it'd have a chip embedded and they'd track the owners - probably sell the list to fuckign foreigners who steal it back
that's what some used car dealers do. there not supposed to use the equipmetn for THAT though.
if a gun was smart it'd have a chip embedded and they'd track the owners - probably sell the list to fuckign foreigners who steal it back
that's what some used car dealers do. there not supposed to use the equipmetn for THAT though.
Re: Only Smart Guns to Be Sold in New Jersey starting 2017
Posted by:
The Finer Points
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Date: February 26, 2014 10:42PM
Eesh, under current definitions a smart gun is not only a gun that recognizes an authorized users fingerprints or palm print.
There are also smart guns like the one in your picture that come with a watch. If that watch is not within the proper range of the gun, it won't fire. The idea is you must be wearing the watch while shooting.
I've also heard of smart guns that learn the "hand pressure" of the authorized user. Evidently, with the right technology the nuances of a person's grip can be used to unlock a gun's capabilities. This sounds unreliable...You're telling me that you hold a gun exactly the same at the range as you do at 2am when some brown, savage, illegal mud person breaks into your home to rape your dog?
There are also smart guns like the one in your picture that come with a watch. If that watch is not within the proper range of the gun, it won't fire. The idea is you must be wearing the watch while shooting.
I've also heard of smart guns that learn the "hand pressure" of the authorized user. Evidently, with the right technology the nuances of a person's grip can be used to unlock a gun's capabilities. This sounds unreliable...You're telling me that you hold a gun exactly the same at the range as you do at 2am when some brown, savage, illegal mud person breaks into your home to rape your dog?
Re: Only Smart Guns to Be Sold in New Jersey starting 2017
Posted by:
suburban white folks
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Date: February 26, 2014 11:22PM
Suburban middle-class folks who live in a good neighborhood should not even be allowed to buy guns. You will probably never need a gun. If you live in a bad neighborhood, you can buy a gun. America's gun problem solved.
Re: Only Smart Guns to Be Sold in New Jersey starting 2017
Posted by:
Ring tum diddy
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Date: February 26, 2014 11:24PM
What about the not so smart guns? Are they kept in short holsters?
Re: Only Smart Guns to Be Sold in New Jersey starting 2017
Posted by:
LCx4x
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Date: February 27, 2014 07:27AM
>Suburban middle-class folks who live in a good neighborhood should not even be allowed to buy guns. You will probably never need a gun. If you live in a bad neighborhood, you can buy a gun.
And build a wall around one of the two.
And build a wall around one of the two.
Re: Only Smart Guns to Be Sold in New Jersey starting 2017
Posted by:
hFVcX
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Date: February 27, 2014 07:28AM
I will convert if/when police are required to carry smart guns. If the government won't adopt the technology, why am I being forced to do so?
Re: Only Smart Guns to Be Sold in New Jersey starting 2017
Posted by:
Taj
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Date: February 27, 2014 08:35AM
suburban white folks Wrote:
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> Suburban middle-class folks who live in a good
> neighborhood should not even be allowed to buy
> guns. You will probably never need a gun. If you
> live in a bad neighborhood, you can buy a gun.
> America's gun problem solved.
Read the Constitution you fucking idiot.
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> Suburban middle-class folks who live in a good
> neighborhood should not even be allowed to buy
> guns. You will probably never need a gun. If you
> live in a bad neighborhood, you can buy a gun.
> America's gun problem solved.
Read the Constitution you fucking idiot.
Re: Only Smart Guns to Be Sold in New Jersey starting 2017
Posted by:
Yup
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Date: February 27, 2014 09:24AM
hFVcX Wrote:
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> I will convert if/when police are required to
> carry smart guns. If the government won't adopt
> the technology, why am I being forced to do so?
This. I'm not a gun enthusiast. (I'm not a gun hater either...) The government enjoys its share of accidental shootings and/or intentional shootings that could have been prevented, etc...they should be using smart guns, too. Hell, even James Bond uses a smart gun now and it has saved his life.
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> I will convert if/when police are required to
> carry smart guns. If the government won't adopt
> the technology, why am I being forced to do so?
This. I'm not a gun enthusiast. (I'm not a gun hater either...) The government enjoys its share of accidental shootings and/or intentional shootings that could have been prevented, etc...they should be using smart guns, too. Hell, even James Bond uses a smart gun now and it has saved his life.
Re: Only Smart Guns to Be Sold in New Jersey starting 2017
Posted by:
GDxkJ
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Date: February 27, 2014 12:20PM
if a gun was smart it'd have a chip embedded and they'd track the owners - probably sell the list to fuckign foreigners who steal it back
that's what some used car dealers do. they are not supposed to use the equipment for THAT though - but some do.
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christie might be covering up allota italians stealin
but don't say he never did you favors.
he told you that was coming down the line and you know he's goign to avoid it for himself
that's what some used car dealers do. they are not supposed to use the equipment for THAT though - but some do.
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christie might be covering up allota italians stealin
but don't say he never did you favors.
he told you that was coming down the line and you know he's goign to avoid it for himself
Re: Only Smart Guns to Be Sold in New Jersey starting 2017
Posted by:
Smart gun fart gun
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Date: February 27, 2014 12:26PM
I read this and LAUGH cuz theres already 300 MILLION guns that aren't SMART. LIBS can try all they want! Won't get 'em all, hell not even half!!
Re: Only Smart Guns to Be Sold in New Jersey starting 2017
Posted by:
eesh
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Date: May 13, 2014 10:36AM
http://www.engadget.com/2014/05/12/smart-gun-explainer/
Chief among those worries: the safety mechanism will fail when it's needed most. If you're relying on a weapon for defense, the last thing you want is another point of failure. Electronics aren't perfect. Sometimes cameras can't autofocus. Cable boxes freeze up when browsing the channel guide. The equivalent, seemingly small glitch in a smart gun could be the difference between life and death.
And then there are specific technical limitations. Smart guns rely on batteries to power their various safety systems. Should that battery die, the gun could fail to fire. In fact, most models designed for civilian use are designed to fail if the battery dies. It's been suggested that smart guns designed for law enforcement should automatically disable the safety if the battery dies.
There are similar issues with biometric scanners, which have serious trouble reading fingerprints if your hands are wet (with panicked sweat as you grapple with an armed attacker, for instance). Many of these systems claim they can read a fingerprint or other biometric and properly unlock the firearm 99.9 percent of the time -- but when it comes to matters of life and death, even 0.1 percent chance of failure is considered too high. And then there's always the worry that these weapons could be hacked or jammed remotely. Which is terrifying.
Chief among those worries: the safety mechanism will fail when it's needed most. If you're relying on a weapon for defense, the last thing you want is another point of failure. Electronics aren't perfect. Sometimes cameras can't autofocus. Cable boxes freeze up when browsing the channel guide. The equivalent, seemingly small glitch in a smart gun could be the difference between life and death.
And then there are specific technical limitations. Smart guns rely on batteries to power their various safety systems. Should that battery die, the gun could fail to fire. In fact, most models designed for civilian use are designed to fail if the battery dies. It's been suggested that smart guns designed for law enforcement should automatically disable the safety if the battery dies.
There are similar issues with biometric scanners, which have serious trouble reading fingerprints if your hands are wet (with panicked sweat as you grapple with an armed attacker, for instance). Many of these systems claim they can read a fingerprint or other biometric and properly unlock the firearm 99.9 percent of the time -- but when it comes to matters of life and death, even 0.1 percent chance of failure is considered too high. And then there's always the worry that these weapons could be hacked or jammed remotely. Which is terrifying.
Re: Only Smart Guns to Be Sold in New Jersey starting 2017
Posted by:
eesh
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Date: May 19, 2014 03:49PM
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/05/robert-farago/breaking-smart-gun-maker-files-patent-remote-kill-switch/
Smart gun manufacturer files patent for remote kill switch on their products.
Smart gun manufacturer files patent for remote kill switch on their products.