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Lee Harvey Oswald supported the communist in Russia and Cuba, and was upset with the President because of his involvement with "bay of pigs" Being a leftist at the time, he actually supported and voted for JFK. But John Kennedy was not as far left as some would have liked at the time (by today's standards he was Conservative!) So he blew off his head
Of course, the left media tries to hide all of this by calling it a "conspiracy" ever since the truth came out in 1963- and it really is the truth, folks. "Whot shot JFK" as if we didn't know. LHO was a commie, and perhaps had some people in on with him, but there was no vast conspiracy. He was a lone gunman who hated Capitalism, and he tried to become a member of the KGB in Russia but failed.
Maybe a jealous husband shot JFK? Why not? It is not out of the realm of possibilities. This guy had all kind of affairs. In the movie "Killing Kennedy", Jackie could not even use the White House pool because JFK was in there with naked women swimming. He had an affair with Sam Giacanna's girl, Mafia guys don't go for that. JFK was not a very moral man.
Its so obvious he did it. A number of reasons. You can blame the mafia all you want. Why cant people accept this 50 years later? That a commie gunman killed JFK, and that's all there is to it.
Nobody seriously doubts Oswald did it but the question is whether or not somebody told him to do it. Oswald was, as potential assassin, pretty penny-ante and unlikely to succeed, so you gotta wonder who'd aim him at Kennedy. Far as I know, Oswald wasn't particularly anti-Kennedy, even during his half-assed defection to the USSR.
That said, he was looking to make a splash so it's entirely possible that nobody told him anything.
could be Wrote:
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> Maybe a jealous husband shot JFK?
Witnesses and forensics prove the bullets came from the 6th floor of the building where Oswald worked, and he gunned down a cop nearby a few minutes later.
This totally leads me to believe that it was someone else who shot Kennedy.
The House Select Committee determined there may have been another gunman who fired a shot which missed Kennedy. Ihat gunshot was captured on the motorcycle patrolman's audio feed.
Mafia connection was suspected because Oswald's killer Jack Ruby's had ties to the Mafia. Carlos Marcello supposedly admitted to having ordered the killing of both brothers.
> Ihat gunshot was captured on the motorcycle patrolman's audio feed.
My understanding is that recent re-evaluation of the patrolman audio feed showed that it's far from clear that there were any gunshots on the tape, to say nothing of how many.
What does seem clear - there was a witness on the floor below the shooter (presumably Oswald) who says today what he said then - three shots, bang, clack-clack ... bang, clack-clack ... bang. One guy with a bolt action rifle, and at not particularly long range.
abelard Wrote:
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> > Ihat gunshot was captured on the motorcycle
> patrolman's audio feed.
>
> My understanding is that recent re-evaluation of
> the patrolman audio feed showed that it's far from
> clear that there were any gunshots on the tape, to
> say nothing of how many.
>
> What does seem clear - there was a witness on the
> floor below the shooter (presumably Oswald) who
> says today what he said then - three shots, bang,
> clack-clack ... bang, clack-clack ... bang. One
> guy with a bolt action rifle, and at not
> particularly long range.
Yeah, it was less than 90 yards, not terribly far at all. Also cycling the bolt 3 times in 6 seconds isn't as hard as conspiracy theorists would have you believe. A skilled hunter would be capable of taking that.
Does anyone know what power scope was on that rifle?
Oswald had the training and the ability to successfully execute those hits. They had tested other marksmen and all were able to do the same. He chose an Italian rifle and rounds that were known to be highly accurate.
Oswald had motive, opportunity and the training. Oswald grew up with rifles, he would go hunting with his older brother, as a child, with 22's for squirrels. He also qualified as a Marksman in the Marine Corps. He was diciplined for carrying a handgun while in the Marines and unwarranted discharge of a military shotgun, in other words, he was familiar with firearms.. Oswald had a jealous streak and would react violently when his wife mentioned that Kennedy was a handsome and attractive man. Oswald comitted that assasination by himself. Conspiracy theory is sheer nonsense.
Oswald can't have worked alone. It has been proven by several marksmen time and again that the weapon that was used could not have fired three shots in such a short time. There's videos on YT, some date back to the 70's. I think Oswald was a patsy and in using him they took down two birds with one stone.
He also mail-ordered the gun (leaving a paper trial, even in 1963), posed with it and gave a signed copy to a friend (found later during the investigation, giving lie to his statement that the pic was a CIA fake), left the gun with his fingerprints at the book depository where he worked, and even attempted an earlier assassination with it (of some local politician - he missed). And shot a cop as he tried to get away.
Decent shot, yes. A man likely to be hired as part of a conspiracy? No.
culprite Wrote:
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> Oswald had motive, opportunity and the training.
He was also a very troubled individual. The Soviets didn't even want him over there when he tried to defect, so he slashed his wrist to stay in country. And then got sick of it and left a few months later.
These conspiracy theorist take items to the extreme. They try to base their suppositions on fallacious reasoning. "How could a man like Oswald handle a weapon like that old Italian rifle and discharge 3 shots,(1 lethal), inthat short time',is a common argument. The answer is that many have duplicated the same series of shots in the same alloted time. It's been proven time and again that it is not only possible; but probable.
The need for a conspiracy has been explained as a need to balance the "1000 days of camelot" against oswald's seeming insignificance.
what puzzles me is that "camelot" consisted of the cold war (thinly veiled by the space race), the vietnam war and the lovely cuban missile crisis. oh yeah, i forgot the marital infidelity.
What does this 82 year old former FBI agent have to gain by putting this informstion out there? This is interesting.
There is a plethora of evidence that indicates foul play by the CIA and its all easy to find if you want to look for it. However, if you've already put your faith in the official good government bullshit report, you're never going to believe otherwise.
Oswald even said, "I'm a CIA patsy," and soon after he was killed by Jack Rubenstein (ethnicity?).
If he were a secret CIA "patsy", they could've just snuck him away from Dealy Plaza, drove him to an undisclosed location & put a bullet in his head.
Instead, they let him leave the book depository and risk capture, let him wander around Dallas for a few hours, let him kill one cop and nearly kill another, allowed him to be captured and interrogated for hours. And then they had him executed, out in public, in a police station, surrounded by police and TV cameras.
That sure sounds like a "secret" plan with a whole assload of risks and things that could go wrong.
Rockhound Wrote:
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> Oswald can't have worked alone. It has been proven
> by several marksmen time and again that the weapon
> that was used could not have fired three shots in
> such a short time. There's videos on YT, some date
> back to the 70's. I think Oswald was a patsy and
> in using him they took down two birds with one
> stone.
As I said before, firing a bolt action rifle 3 times in 6 seconds is not difficult at all. Hitting a target the size of a paper plate less than 90 yards away isn't an amazing feat either.
Oswald had a need to be seen as important. That was indicated in biographies when he defected to the Soviet Union. He thought he would be seen by the Soviets as a prize defection. The Soviets initially thought he might be a spy but he turned out to be nothing.
WJKWj Wrote:
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> what puzzles me is that "camelot" consisted of the
> cold war (thinly veiled by the space race), the
> vietnam war and the lovely cuban missile crisis.
> oh yeah, i forgot the marital infidelity.
Maybe instead of "Camelot", it should be "Cum a lot"?