again with the jokes. But suppose the kid who posted this took your (implied) encouragement to do it and killed himself?

Mr. Misery,

I explicitly encourage you to give me 50 dollars a day.

Edit2Add: You did say you got a shit load of money, right?



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I'm just saying--I know you all think you're being edgy and funny, but suicide is one thing I would not joke about--not in the context it was brought up here in this post. You don't know if the original poster was genuine, or just fucking around. The point is, you don't know. Cary should have taken this thread down, I'll say it again.

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> I'm just saying--I know you all think you're being
> edgy and funny, but suicide is one thing I would
> not joke about--not in the context it was brought
> up here in this post.

There are people in this thread who would agree with you. Others, it would appear, see things from a different perspective.

> You don't know if the
> original poster was genuine, or just fucking
> around. The point is, you don't know.

You're right. We don't know... we may never know. On the other hand, the OP's life might have been saved by some of the more compassionate posters in this thread. Some sense may have even been knocked into the OP from the "tough-love" given by Mephisto or RESton.

This thread may have saved a life... or many lives even...

You just don't know.

> Cary should
> have taken this thread down, I'll say it again.

I completely disagree with censorship. Cary did the right thing.

whatever, man. I just don't think it's funny to tell a depressed person (whether he was sincere or not) to kill himself.

...And why Snagglepuss?

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> whatever, man. I just don't think it's funny to
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I've seen threads on other forums where it looks exactly the same. Someone claims to be suicidal, and everyone encourages them to shoot themselves, run their car into a tree, jump off a bridge, etc. It's just internet drama.

and that it probably is. My only point is, you don't know for sure, so why not just be safe and say nothing?

...and again, Harry, what's up with Snagglepuss?

Sorry... I constantly struggle to keep him in check. I guess I got fatigued today, because he temporarily realized freedom. It won't happen again, boss.

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> ...and again, Harry, what's up with Snagglepuss?

just keep him away from my toy Yoda.
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> Alias, you ought to be ashamed of yourself.
> Seriously. You're a mother...I would think, being
> a mother, you would have better sense than to
> encourage some dumb kid over the internet to kill
> themselves. Cary should have taken this thread
> down...nothing good could possibly have come from
> it.

I didn't believe the OP, but I'm sorry and I'll never make glib comments about suicide again.

I'm not seeing where she did this, is it in another thread?

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> I didn't believe the OP, but I'm sorry and I'll
> never make glib comments about suicide again.

you're being glib now. If that young man really killed himself, you've got his blood on your hands, Alias.

Now round up Elle, Melissa, Spunky, and Genevieve and start smoking...

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> If that young man really
> killed himself, you've got his blood on your
> hands, Alias.

That's not something to joke about, Misery! What if Alias, consumed by her guilt, decides to drown herself in a veritable Niagara of pills? Does that mean her blood is on your hands, Misery!? After all, it was you telling her to feel shame for her actions!

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> Now round up Elle, Melissa, Spunky, and Genevieve
> and start smoking...

Skip the smoking and get right to the heavy petting!

it's a good thing I wasn't a regular here last time I tried to off myself, that's all. You people are animals.

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> > tell a depressed person (whether he was sincere
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> I've seen threads on other forums where it looks
> exactly the same. Someone claims to be suicidal,
> and everyone encourages them to shoot themselves,
> run their car into a tree, jump off a bridge, etc.
> It's just internet drama.


I remember when some clown was standing up on the Tappan Zee Bridge threatening to jump. He was holding up traffic, so people started screaming "HEY, JUMP ALREADY, WILL YA'!?" lol. Bottom line though, if you're suicidal, don't kill or injure anyone else in the process (ie, Don't be some fanatical raghead bomber).

Suicide's never an answer though. The vast majority of life's problems are temporary, and short lived. Learn to suck up what life throws at you, and you'll become a far more resilient person. Resiliency = A much more enjoyable existence, because you shouldn't sweat the small stuff, and everything is small stuff.

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

The guy Sobel, played by David Swchimmer, in the first two episodes of the Band of Brothers series, was based on an actual person.
In real life, Sobel tried to kill himself. He put a pistol against his temple and shot himself. The bullet passed thru his head without killing him. But it severed the optic nerve, leaving him blind. He spent the last few years of his life in a VA hospital.

I have also seen grusome photos at Rotten.com of people who have mis-positioned the gun they shot themself with, resulting in horrible disfiguration but not death.

So my question is, how best to position the gun? In The Departed, the guy who killed himself in the car near the end placed the gun under his chin, and shot straight up through the top of his head. That was also the way the prison warden killed himself in the Greeen Mile. But maybe thats just a movie thing.

Does anybody know?

The most effective would be a double-barrelled shotgun. But I dont have a shotgun. Actually I dont have a pistol either,
but there is nothing in my history that would prevent my obtaining one. It seems more manageable then a shotgun. I dont want to jump off a buidling or a bridge, or step in front of a train, or use pills or razors. My second preferred method would be hanging. But a gun seems best. Its quick, so theres there is less chance of being interupted.

The plan would be to park in a little used rest area surrounded by woods. Leave an inconspicuous folded note with contact information, possibly a will,
and directions to the body on the seat of the car, with the door unlocked. Go into the woods and do it. Cash + note on body for the clean-up crew. A signed and dated do not resusitate note sealed in plastic pinned to chest.

But what is the best way to position the pistol? I have tried to research this on the internet but have not found a good anwser.

Perhaps some of you military people know. I would want to place my head against a tree to "catch" the bullet, to eleminate the chance of someone else being hurt by the stray bullet.

Watchin' the tiiiiiiime roll away.

Drinkin' Hires

Sitting on the dock of the bay, if you're being sincere (and I happen to believe it is the duty of every respectable human being reading what you wrote to assume it is sincere, even if it isn't), then you know what I'm going to say. Don't do it. The Human mind is incapable, sometimes, of conceiving how one might feel 'outside of the moment'. So, sleep it off. I've had a lot of your same thoughts, and not too long ago, but they pass. You never know how you might feel tomorrow, the day after, a week--even a year from now. That's the best advice I could give (assuming you're for real)..."ya' never know". And that death is irreversible, while, believe it or not, most conditions (even though I'm not sure I believe it myself half the time) are not. Try reading a book. A real substantive book, like Don Quixote, or Gulliver's Travels. Or poetry (not Sylvia Plath, of course). Try to ease your mind away from the suicidal thoughts. If you're anything like me, they're not urgent thoughts...they just kind of creep up on you...anything you can do to keep those thoughts at bay...most importantly, if you have the luxury, be around people. Talk to people. That's the best thing you can do.

Chances are, I'm going to be ridiculed to no end for responding in earnest to this post, but whatever, man. It's 3am, I'm on my meds, and I don't care.

...so here's toy Yoda, one last time...
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dude went thru with it and offed himself...congratulations, assholes!

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> dude went thru with it and offed
> himself...congratulations, assholes!




And you know this how?

Does that mean this thread can die now?

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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he had a registered name, but I'm not going to reveal who it was

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> Does that mean this thread can die now?


We should start a RIP thread in the main forum.

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> he had a registered name, but I'm not going to
> reveal who it was


That's too bad. RIP Mystery Poster

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> > > himself...congratulations, assholes!
> > And you know this how?
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> he had a registered name, but I'm not going to
> reveal who it was

Even if it is true, the folks here had nothing to do with it. None of the folks here know who this person is - so the failure here would be with the person themselves, their family, and their real life friends. Period.

But anonymously posting here that some anonymous person no one knows may or may not have offed themselves is almost as stupid as the person that posted here in the first place and thought that it would give them some meaning to go one way or the other.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

I'm pretty sure the OP was joking around. It's probably why he got the reaction he did, no one took it seriously, and it's probably the OP that bumped this thread.


Sherlock eesh on the case!