1. Iran does whatever the fuck they want.

2. Obama claims success.

Why do you care what Iran does?

You left out a step.

3. Obama says salam alaikum to his Muslim brothers

obviously this is a jew only thread.

ahhhh Wrote:
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> obviously this is a jew only thread.


Are you a jew. If not, GTFO.

Siege Wrote:
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> Why do you care what Iran does?


Because it will affect us.

Why do you think they're, lamely, attempting to negotiate with them?

ahhhh Wrote:
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> obviously this is a jew only thread.


+1

You're all anti Semites and you shall spend eternity in the hellfire because you're blaspheming Gods chosen people.

Wait, people actually believe that crock of shit?

Once again Obobo gives away something to get nothing.

Obama gets more done without firing a single shot again than Republicans could using standing armies.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Obama gets more done without firing a single shot
> again than Republicans could using standing
> armies.


Not real hard to 'get it done' when you're being a sucker for a chump deal with people who laugh at having played us for years, giving them billions in free money, and lifting sanctions.

okay when the fuck did Iran get billions in free money. we've crippled their economy by almost 40%, yo

LoLz!

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Obama gets more done without firing a single shot
> again than Republicans could using standing
> armies.

Gerry, it's not hard to bend over and take it up the ass if that's what youre into. Obozo's asshole is getting greased good.

say whaaaa Wrote:
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> okay when the fuck did Iran get billions in free
> money. we've crippled their economy by almost 40%,
> yo
>
> LoLz!


Iran to get access to $4.2 billion in nuclear deal

Reuters
56 minutes ago

GENEVA (Reuters) - Iran will get access to $4.2 billion in foreign exchange as part of an agreement under which it will curb its nuclear program in exchange for limited sanctions relief, a Western diplomat said on Sunday.

Stabitha Wrote:
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> Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Obama gets more done without firing a single
> shot
> > again than Republicans could using standing
> > armies.
>
> Gerry, it's not hard to bend over and take it up
> the ass if that's what youre into. Obozo's asshole
> is getting greased good.


why so jealous? I'm sure someone will do the same for your hole even with the warts and postules and all. keep the faith, or just kill yourself.

Fagitha!

LoLz!

Try to keep up Corky Wrote:
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> say whaaaa Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > okay when the fuck did Iran get billions in
> free
> > money. we've crippled their economy by almost
> 40%,
> > yo
> >
> > LoLz!
>
>
> Iran to get access to $4.2 billion in nuclear
> deal
>
> Reuters
> 56 minutes ago
>
> GENEVA (Reuters) - Iran will get access to $4.2
> billion in foreign exchange as part of an
> agreement under which it will curb its nuclear
> program in exchange for limited sanctions relief,
> a Western diplomat said on Sunday.


Obama strangled their economy into submission, and now their begging for scraps and willing to do willing to chill out on the nukes. Obama wins! Iran taps!

4 bills is nothing and not coming from us its a scrap and its not clear how or when they will receive it (loan, over time, stipulations, etc) point is we Dont give them money regularly. their best friend however is sucking us dry.

Obama the WWE Superstar Wrote:
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>
> Obama strangled their economy into submission, and
> now their begging for scraps and willing to do
> willing to chill out on the nukes. Obama wins!
> Iran taps!
>
> 4 bills is nothing and not coming from us its a
> scrap and its not clear how or when they will
> receive it (loan, over time, stipulations, etc)
> point is we Dont give them money regularly. their
> best friend however is sucking us dry.


BS. The money isn't particularly important. Just icing.

They're doing the exact same thing that the Koreans did. And that Rouhani proudly admitted to have been doing for years now. Playing us for chumps and stalling for time.

"Despite the sanctions, Iran today has 19,000 centrifuges and is building more advanced ones, according to Mark Hibbs, a nuclear policy expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace."

And im sure Iran is going to hand over all 19,000

Hahaha....you Democrats will fall for anything because you stand for nothing.

This is one of those subjects that is so complex and the knowledge available here on FFXU so limited that it would have to be a seminar to combative students. I don't have the energy.

Let me try to simplify it, Iran is a very big and influential country. It has regional influence that stretches far and wide. A military confrontation with Iran would have been global. It would have been a very long conflict, possibly never ending. Iran would of continued its nuclear program and justifiably so. It would have hardened its nuclear sites.

Oil prices would have skyrocketed not because Iran's crude output was limited but because of the possibility of Iranian retaliation on Saudi and Gulf oil installations. The Israeli's would have used Saudi airspace to assist in mounting the initial surgical strike.

Absolute global chaos. Protests in Helmand province and Kabul Afghanistan would erupt and the Shiite elements in Iraq and Bahrain would also rise up. That's just the tip of the iceberg.

The probability for a Hezbollah missile attack on Israel would be great. Syria being in its current state and beholden to Iran more than ever would probably enter the conflict. There would be a regional war. Many would categorize it as World War 3.

It would cripple the global economy and markets would crash. Western economies would plunge back into recessions possibly depressions.

For what? So the Israeli turds can defend a shit stain the size of New Jersey with nukes of their own undeterred?

This is a monumental achievement and Iranians are capable of fulfilling their obligations.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/24/2013 12:51AM by Gerrymanderer2.

Iran won't nuclear, but even if it did Iran is a very responsible state and wouldn't pose a nuclear threat like that which Israel suggests. Israel is the one the started a nuclear arms race in the middle east and insists on being nuclear power.

All of this is just so Israel can have nukes undeterred and that's not in the national security interest of the United States.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> This is one of those subjects that is so complex
> and the knowledge available here on FFXU so
> limited that it would have to be a seminar to
> combative students. I don't have the energy.


Coming from the same idiot who got Egypt completely wrong. lol

You're a clueless fucktard.

Iran will have a nuclear weapon. Most likely by the 2016 election. Though they might hold off announcing until after.

Oil prices are going to plummet on speculation of a deal alone.

Kerry gets Presidential Medal of Freedom and Nobel Peace Prize.
Iran still continues to enrich uranium and threaten the world.
Business as usual.

Commodities are falling because of the rising dollar. It's being caused by the possible end of QE3 in the US and the ongoing QE in Japan and possibly a new QE program in Europe as well. It's not unlike what occurred during the 1995-2000 bubble when Japan monetized US debt to drive up the US dollar to spur exports.

This almost makes up for Obozo allowing over a thousand Iranian's to die and thousands more being thrown into prison instead of standing behind them as they protested in the streets for freedom like he did when our allies in Tunisia and Egypt and the contained leader of Libya were being protested. Shit, he armed the fuckers in Libya and provided air cover for their forces. They paid us back by killing our ambassador along with 3 other US citizens.

Obozo's foreign policy sucks. He's being played and you stupid fuck defenders of the pretend king are going to pay along with the rest of us. Knowing that makes me happy.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> This is one of those subjects that is so complex
> and the knowledge available here on FFXU so
> limited that it would have to be a seminar to
> combative students. I don't have the energy.

since when, you post on here day and night sucking barrys dick at every opportunity. You are like a rabid Redskins fan, you cant admit you backed a loser.

The Jews in Israel are not going to sit around shucking and jiving like Obama. As soon as the towel heads in Iran get close to finishing their nukes Israel will take them out.

eLester Wrote:
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> Commodities are falling because of the rising
> dollar. It's being caused by the possible end of
> QE3 in the US and the ongoing QE in Japan and
> possibly a new QE program in Europe as well. It's
> not unlike what occurred during the 1995-2000
> bubble when Japan monetized US debt to drive up
> the US dollar to spur exports.


"...possible end of QE3..."

Are you nuts? Yellen's policy is Bernanke's on steroids. She's going to pump more and longer than Ben did. The bankers and Wall Street love her. More free money for them to invest in themselves, driving up their value on paper while the sheeple bleat about how great things are.

They seem to be committed to a tapering of QE. The Fed non-voting governors are jawboning to prevent a market fall. In May, they were all unanimous in their speeches that QE3 would be phased out by the summer of 2014. They're intentionally sending out mixed messages to help out their cronies shuffle off as much paper as they can.

Ghost of Chris Stevens Wrote:
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> This almost makes up for Obozo allowing over a
> thousand Iranian's to die and thousands more being
> thrown into prison instead of standing behind them
> as they protested in the streets for freedom like
> he did when our allies in Tunisia and Egypt and
> the contained leader of Libya were being
> protested. Shit, he armed the fuckers in Libya
> and provided air cover for their forces. They
> paid us back by killing our ambassador along with
> 3 other US citizens.
>
> Obozo's foreign policy sucks. He's being played
> and you stupid fuck defenders of the pretend king
> are going to pay along with the rest of us.
> Knowing that makes me happy.


Don't forget completely abandoning the Syrians after his red line bullshit.

The US has a vested interest in making sure the balance of power in the Middle East doesn't tilt too far to one side. Remember that all of the parties have been involved in sponsoring terrorism, mostly against each other and the militias they've backed but also against governments in the region. Saudi Arabia is the primary sponsor and recruiter of rebels in Syria. They've boasted of their ambition to carve out a large southern section of Syria for these militias. Guess what country lies just south of this region. In addition, these governments may be allies with common interests now. If they become too powerful, they'll view US power as limiting to further ambitions in the area...

Thank God this clown wasn't president in 1941, we would have sent Japan aid for shooting down some of their planes.

Agreements with the US arent worth the paper they're written on.

There is no aid being sent by the US or any other country to Iran. This is Iranian money that was seized by Western powers being released to them. Or another way to put it, this money was stolen from the Iranians.

This deal changes nothing. Its just political theatre.

I don't understand what all these neocons want to happen in Iran. We have a step in the right direction. What would you rather have happen? The only other option is war. A war with Iran would not be nearly as simple as Iraq or Afghanistan, which weren't simple at all. This could be WW3, and likely would be. And for what? Israel, the country who hates us and uses us? Netanyahu said in 2002, "ONCE we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away." With friends like that, who needs enemies?

They want to destroy the global economy and our super power status for an irrelevant Jew infested aparthied shit hole. No, I'm not willing to sacrifice one inch of American national security interests over a paranoid self absorbed selfish state like Israel.

We've fought enough wars, sacrificed enough American blood, spent our treasure, gave up our status in the world and our liberties at home. Why does't Israel take initiative for a nuclear weapons free middle east, I'm pretty sure that would resolve all these issues. Have all middle eastern nations sign on. Israel is protected by a nuclear umbrella of every single western country in the world. What does it need nukes for?

Rockhound Wrote:
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> There is no aid being sent by the US or any other
> country to Iran. This is Iranian money that was
> seized by Western powers being released to them.
> Or another way to put it, this money was stolen
> from the Iranians.
>
> This deal changes nothing. Its just political
> theatre.
>
> I don't understand what all these neocons want to
> happen in Iran. We have a step in the right
> direction. What would you rather have happen? The
> only other option is war. A war with Iran would
> not be nearly as simple as Iraq or Afghanistan,
> which weren't simple at all. This could be WW3,
> and likely would be. And for what? Israel, the
> country who hates us and uses us? Netanyahu said
> in 2002, "ONCE we squeeze all we can out of the
> United States, it can dry up and blow away." With
> friends like that, who needs enemies?


What don't you understand about they're playing us?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=q6-gJ1zI3D4

He's gotten the structure of the sanctions broken for which there never be agreement to reconstruct. They'll stall as below on the basis of interpretations while they continue development and try to play the West against itself. Same old playbook.


Rohani says sanctions “broken” by Iran’s Geneva deal
24/11 11:15 CET

Iran has sacrificed much to have a nuclear programme, and that sacrifice will not be bargained away nor made in vain. That is what Iran’s President Hassan Rohani seemed to want to underline with his reaction to the Geneva deal, made with the families of murdered nuclear scientists alongside him.

“The second result of this agreement is the right to enrich uranium on Iranian soil. Everyone can interpret things the way they like, but in the document Iran’s right to enrich uranium is clearly mentioned.

This agreement breaks the sanctions structure. The cracks began to appear last night, and as time goes on they will widen,” he said in Tehran.

Remember the 6 million.

Was watching Morning Joe and there was a parade of Jews through there. lol they brought every Jew the network knew as so called experts. It was interesting to see the neo con Kristol and the CFR guy go at it. The neo cons are pretty much politically dead now.

Very interesting watching these evil men crumble.

Anyone who genuinely believes that they can make some kind of peace deal with militant pisslamic fundamentalists like the Iranians is completely insane.

So, unless the Hussein regime is full of mentally ill people, then they're either extremely naive and gullible or Islamophilic traitors.

My best guess is probably a combination of the latter...

Hey those Persians had a vast empire while your ancestors were eating and sleeping in shit.

Actually, Iranians are more Caucasian pure blood than you are. Thats what Iran means, Aryan. Their country is named after the white race.

Uh, not really. The various ethnic groups living in the area of modern Iran really didn't accomplish much until the rise of the Achaemenid Empire around 500 BC. By around that time, my White European ancestors were living like this:









http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJZ-STX0x0c

Also, Caucasian does not equal White since it includes North Africans and a large percentage of Asians. Likewise for Indo-Europeans (Aryans).

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Actually, Iranians are more Caucasian pure blood
> than you are. Thats what Iran means, Aryan. Their
> country is named after the white race.


Damn son. Not only are you a fucking idiot but it's even worse in that you don't realize what a fucking idiot you are.

Neither Caucasian or Aryan in those contexts have anything to do with the white race. lol

Okay, I guess you guys go by skin pigment, I go by blood line.

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Okay, I guess you guys go by skin pigment, I go by
> blood line.


Don't even try to save it bro. lol

Caucasians are named for a region which incorporates a wide variety of 'races' and skin colors. The use of 'Caucasian' as a name for 'whites' is the exact opposite of yours. They are named for it as an origin for one subset of that regional population not vice versa with them giving it the name based on anything to do with their color.

The use of the term to denote whites as well as using Aryan in that same context were modern adulterations of earlier meanings (as in the case of Aryan as applied to Iran) by Meiners and others in older Germany and resurrected by the German nationalists.