I hate the English Language. I hate that you have to think when you need to write something, and you have to know the difference between there and their? TOO and too. your and you're is dumb.

Mohammed Wrote:
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> I hate the English Language. I hate that you have
> to think when you need to write something, and you
> have to know the difference between there and
> their? TOO and too. your and you're is dumb.

That's stupid.

Down with English. Learn French or die.

The only English accent that sounds good is the traditional posh British accent, the standard British accent and French people speaking it (only because it sounds slightly French).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg1AQ5JmU9A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV__ulHEB10

Native speakers outside of Britain sound like uncouth barbarians.

PS. Kill all muslimes...

Mohammed Wrote:
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> I hate the English Language. I hate that you have
> to think when you need to write something, and you
> have to know the difference between there and
> their? TOO and too. your and you're is dumb.


Uh its not that hard, most people can write without thinking about what there trying to say. maybe your to stupid.

 

friskydingo Wrote:
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> maybe your to stupid.


yeah...he is the stupid one

I hope your just joking, I tried to make it to obvious.

 

friskydingo Wrote:
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> I hope your just joking, I tried to make it to
> obvious.


ok

Mohammed Wrote:
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> I hate the English Language. I hate that you have
> to think when you need to write something, and you
> have to know the difference between there and
> their? TOO and too. your and you're is dumb.

If every whore in Bangkok can learn English so can you.

"suck" and "blow" are both synonyms and antonyms.

The origins of English is pretty messy. Basically English has Germanic grammar but has a vocabulary derived from French.

I have to agree. If you aren't a native speaker english is just going to drive you crazy.

I wouldn't say that english has a french vocabulary, but rather a polyglot of greek, german, latin, spanish, french, (basically any of the "romance" languages). This means that "soudning out" english words for spelling is just about impossible in all but a few special cases. Try spelling a simple word like women by sounding it out. Seplling is right out as well -- you need to know the word origin to even make a guess. Germanic? ei, anything else, maybe ie.

I enjoy learning other languages, the regular rules for conjugations and syntax just make me laugh. Spanish has a couple irregular verbs but not very many compared to english.

Mohammed Wrote:
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> I hate the English Language. I hate that you have
> to think when you need to write something, and you
> have to know the difference between there and
> their? TOO and too. your and you're is dumb.

What IS the difference between TOO and too?

it hates you to!!! if you dont like it, then go back to your country. we dont want you here anyway.

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> I hate the English Language.

And that's why Mohammed is a fuckhead.

There are a lot of countries you could go to where people named mohammed live, and you'd never have to hear English again.

Planes leave the U.S. for places like that everyday.

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> I wouldn't say that english has a french
> vocabulary, but rather a polyglot of greek,
> german, latin, spanish, french, (basically any of
> the "romance" languages).




I think you wrote this just so you could use the word polyglot...English as we know it had its genesis in the Norman Invasion of 1066. Old French heavily influenced the English language, this is why if you ever take a Spanish, French, or Latin class you will see all the cognates, yet are told English is not a Romance language.

Polyglot is just an example of the english that is not germanic/french.

I would agree that the structure for english is germanic. This is plainly visible in the compound noun formations in english. The equivalent is often constructed in romance languages through the use of prepositional phrases. ergo, english is not a romance language.

Initially, english was germanic but over time is has acquired an enourmous number of loan words from french, latin, greek and other sources. That is what makes english so damned difficult. These 'other' words generally dont follow the same rules as the germanic words. try spelling buffet w/o knowing it was originally french.

Perhaps the best thing about english is that it never seemed to suffer from linguistic purism like some other languages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acad%C3%A9mie_fran%C3%A7aise)

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> Initially, english was germanic but over time is
> has acquired an enourmous number of loan words
> from french, latin, greek and other sources.





It still is Germanic because English is in the Germanic language family....and as far as loan words from Latin, that is because....as I said French heavily influenced English's development, and French is an evolution of Latin (it's why French is called a Romance language.) We get Latin words through French.



Now stop skim-reading Wikipedia to come up with an argument.

I hate non-english speaking no-neck Incas that populate Fairfax.

> Perhaps the best thing about english is that it never seemed to suffer from linguistic purism like some other languages

It's been tried, but the French and Icelanders should be a lesson to us all - don't shovel sand against the tide.

For my money, the best thing that ever happened to English was moving to America. 400 years ago, it was a language spoken on one island, and not all of it. Now it's the language of computers, science, air traffic control, money, and (arguably) political badassery. Nelson Mandela gets released from prison after 40 years and the first thing he does is addresses his own supporters, in english. Like it or not, it is the language to know at the moment.

I think one thing that makes it really hard are the syllabics. Japanese has a bit over a hundred little blocks of sound but English has thousands. We have all the usuals (ah, ba, sa, ...) but others like 'strengths'. One syllable - how the hell are you supposed to learn that? I fucking love English, if only because it provides one with the flexibility to say things like 'I fucking love English'.

So what does English sound like to a non-speaker?


I mean, Mandarin sounds like a bunch of ching chong, yeow mong, etc. and Hindi and Urdu sound like dip dip dop dip. lol


Scandinavian languages and German sound like someone clearing their throats....

>So what does English sound like to a non-speaker?

Like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZXcRqFmFa8

I like abelard.

I bet he's good looking.....

Yes, but he smells like a camel.

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> I like abelard.
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> I bet he's good looking.....





Alias is getting excited, she's gonna get a date from this site.



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Actually I am physically attractive and smell vaguely of the Swiss alps. I think it's because I eat a lot of cheese and chocolate, while hiking in the swiss alps.

Also, in the last year, I built a 500 pound table for my deck, narrowly escaped Angolan prison, and I just started teaching my newborn baby gorilla sign language. So I'm fun to talk to at parties.

Edited because it sounds like I've got a baby gorilla. Nope, baby human, sign language was developed for Koko.



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abelard, do you even lift?

Weights? Not as much as I should, but I belong to an ancient and obscure school of marital arts which keeps me trim. Trim-ish currently - 4 am feedings are really cutting into my practice time.

Sorry Alias, if you're really looking for a fella - I'm currently involved with a younger lady who craps on me and yells a lot. Also drinks too much and pees in public. Yes, sounds like she'll fit in perfectly here - zing!



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abelard Wrote:
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> Weights? Not as much as I should, but I belong to
> an ancient and obscure school of marital arts
> which keeps me trim. Trim-ish currently - 4 am
> feedings are really cutting into my practice time.




Have you ever given a Wuxi Finger Hold?

There's some great things about English- we don't have gender and our noun cases are simple.

Gender is one absurd language feature, IMO.

No, but I've been approached by several sects of 'ninjas'. They show up at embus from time to time, sometimes in complete burqa. Love those guys.

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> There's some great things about English- we don't
> have gender and our noun cases are simple.
>
> Gender is one absurd language feature, IMO.




Another easy thing about English is the importance of word order in a sentence. Languages that don't use subject-verb-object are crazy to learn.

My favorites are the word 'linger', a fairly simple subjunctive mood (which makes it possible to say how I might feel if confronted by bigfoot), and at least 100 euphemisms for boobs.

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> > There's some great things about English- we
> don't
> > have gender and our noun cases are simple.
> >
> > Gender is one absurd language feature, IMO.
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>
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> Another easy thing about English is the importance
> of word order in a sentence. Languages that don't
> use subject-verb-object are crazy to learn.

That's why I mentioned simple noun cases, alot of languages add suffixes to nouns depending on if they are a subject, object, possessive, etc,

abelard Wrote:
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> Weights? Not as much as I should, but I belong to
> an ancient and obscure school of marital arts
> which keeps me trim. Trim-ish currently - 4 am
> feedings are really cutting into my practice
> time.
>
> Sorry Alias, if you're really looking for a fella
> - I'm currently involved with a younger lady who
> craps on me and yells a lot. Also drinks too much
> and pees in public. Yes, sounds like she'll fit
> in perfectly here - zing!


Well, just keep in mind..... I'm great with animals.

I don't dispute the germanic origin of english. however, english only has the germanic structure left. if you look at wikipedia (oh no, more skimming) the word origin distribution is about 36% germanic origin at this point. it isn't going to get any better either, english has a very bad habit of acquiring loan words. with globalization, english is now creeping into other languages (especially technical jargon) so if you just wait, eventually everyone will just speak english (except the french).

as for french influence, it is other major source of words but french has a conflicting structure with german which doesn't really help. now you have things like 'most fit' versus 'fittest'. which one is right? in english, both are fine but there are numerous exceptions which make ESL speakers crazy. we know which one "sounds right" -- no one says "frozenest" (although my dictionary tells me frozen is old english/german not french and would properly according to german language rules have an -est ending).

most of the latin and greek arrived in english directly, not via french. in the middle ages, educated people read latin and greek since the science and regligous texts of the time were only in greek and latin. as english became more acceptable for technical writing, the latin and greek technical words were borrowed into english directly instead of creating new english words or using the germanic rules to create compound words.

all these loan words make life hard for ESL learners. for any particular activity or item, you can be sure there is alteast three different words that mean the same thing. choosing the wrong one makes you sound funny. my personal opinion is that you should probably teach more idiomatic english instead of the way we learn english in high school.

like agglutination? try esperanto. it doesn't even have a particular word order since the suffixes and prefixes make it perfectly clear what is happening in the sentence.

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> the origin of English and ESL learners......

Boring...

Let's hear more about the blossoming romance between Alias and the gorilla man.

>Let's hear more about the blossoming romance between Alias and the gorilla man.

Ah, the risks of rhetoric ambiguity. I'm not in possession of a baby gorilla but I do have a newborn and some knowledge of gorilla signing.

And while I'm sure Alias is lovely, I'm afraid my dance card is filled. Besides, I'm sure she'd just break my heart.

abelard is a married man with an infant human.

Hopefully, Alias understands that her witchcraft has no power here.

>Hopefully, Alias understands that her witchcraft has no power here.

I am resistant to witchcraft.

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> I am resistant to witchcraft.





Even a level 40 Blue Mage?

>Even a level 40 Blue Mage?

Apparently. I showed up in Africa once having been away for over a year, and went to look for an old friend out in the veldt. In the past it'd taken a month to find him but this time it took no time at all - he'd come out of the mountains and was waiting for me not a mile from where I'd camped that night. I asked him how he knew I'd be there when I didn't know till I pitched camp at dusk, and he said the Ancestors told him I was coming back. They told him to wait there, and that they were keeping an eye on me, protecting me. That ... spooked me more than a little, but if they kept me out of Angolan prison last March, I'm cool with it.

ETA: apparently the Ancestors don't understand the rules of blackjack, as they didn't intercede on my behalf last time I was at the Bellagio. I guess we all do what we can.



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abelard Wrote:
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> >Hopefully, Alias understands that her witchcraft
> has no power here.
>
> I am resistant to witchcraft.


We'll see about that...

My skills are formidable.

English is a difficult language. The spelling is simply the worst.

Alias Wrote:
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> abelard Wrote:
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> > >Hopefully, Alias understands that her
> witchcraft
> > has no power here.
> >
> > I am resistant to witchcraft.
>
>
> We'll see about that...
>
> My skills are formidable.

your grammar is at like third grade level, formidable my ass, you represent a stupid english speaker. barely literate.

lethal ron Wrote:
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> Alias Wrote:
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> > witchcraft
> > > has no power here.
> > >
> > > I am resistant to witchcraft.
> >
> >
> > We'll see about that...
> >
> > My skills are formidable.
>
> your grammar is at like third grade level,
> formidable my ass, you represent a stupid english
> speaker. barely literate.


Yes, but I was bragging about other skills.

Alias Wrote:
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> Yes, but I was bragging about other skills.





Yep, you aren't called the Harlot of Henrico for nothing.

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> > Yes, but I was bragging about other skills.
>
>
>
> Yep, you aren't called the Harlot of Henrico for
> nothing.


You got that right.

The Tramp of Tuckahoe

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> The Tramp of Tuckahoe


And proud of it.

Alias, have you considered my offer? Join me at church Saturday.

I can't be saved, eesh.

Alias Wrote:
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> > > > >Hopefully, Alias understands that her
> > > witchcraft
> > > > has no power here.
> > > >
> > > > I am resistant to witchcraft.
> > >
> > >
> > > We'll see about that...
> > >
> > > My skills are formidable.
> >
> > your grammar is at like third grade level,
> > formidable my ass, you represent a stupid
> english
> > speaker. barely literate.
>
>
> Yes, but I was bragging about other skills.


May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits !