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The United States Government is Spying on You Illegally, Without a Warrant, and No One Cares
Posted by:
Quiet Riot
()
Date: November 05, 2013 10:37AM
The United States is spying on its own citizens illegally, and no one seems to mind. This is completely and totally illegal. No one cares. It's not an issue. It is not even discussed.
Re: The United States Government is Spying on You Illegally, Without a Warrant, and No One Cares
Posted by:
how to fix?
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Date: November 05, 2013 11:00AM
Quiet Riot Wrote:
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> The United States is spying on its own citizens
> illegally, and no one seems to mind. This is
> completely and totally illegal. No one cares. It's
> not an issue. It is not even discussed.
Oh I care...what should I do about it, though?
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> The United States is spying on its own citizens
> illegally, and no one seems to mind. This is
> completely and totally illegal. No one cares. It's
> not an issue. It is not even discussed.
Oh I care...what should I do about it, though?
Re: The United States Government is Spying on You Illegally, Without a Warrant, and No One Cares
Posted by:
Living.Free
()
Date: November 05, 2013 11:04AM
ZERO fucks given! I don't do anything illegal, suspect or otherwise compromising or questionable...if the government wants to observe my movements and actions, that's fine because I have nothing to hide.
Re: The United States Government is Spying on You Illegally, Without a Warrant, and No One Cares
Posted by:
Jim Jag
()
Date: November 05, 2013 11:06AM
Quiet Riot Wrote:
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> The United States is spying on its own citizens
> illegally, and no one seems to mind. This is
> completely and totally illegal. No one cares. It's
> not an issue. It is not even discussed.
It only mattered when Bush was President. Now with Barry in office its cool, even spying on the Pope is accepted by the media and liberals.
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> The United States is spying on its own citizens
> illegally, and no one seems to mind. This is
> completely and totally illegal. No one cares. It's
> not an issue. It is not even discussed.
It only mattered when Bush was President. Now with Barry in office its cool, even spying on the Pope is accepted by the media and liberals.
Re: The United States Government is Spying on You Illegally, Without a Warrant, and No One Cares
Posted by:
Quiet Riot
()
Date: November 05, 2013 11:08AM
Living.Free Wrote:
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> ZERO fucks given! I don't do anything illegal,
> suspect or otherwise compromising or
> questionable...if the government wants to observe
> my movements and actions, that's fine because I
> have nothing to hide.
I hope you're trolling. You can't be that naive. You do understand there's a principle to all this that rises above the question of whether you're doing anything suspect. You welcome the government into your home, literally, and that sets a precedent. It's not about the fact you're completely innocent and law abiding.
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> ZERO fucks given! I don't do anything illegal,
> suspect or otherwise compromising or
> questionable...if the government wants to observe
> my movements and actions, that's fine because I
> have nothing to hide.
I hope you're trolling. You can't be that naive. You do understand there's a principle to all this that rises above the question of whether you're doing anything suspect. You welcome the government into your home, literally, and that sets a precedent. It's not about the fact you're completely innocent and law abiding.
Re: The United States Government is Spying on You Illegally, Without a Warrant, and No One Cares
Posted by:
Tinfoil Hatted Chicken Little
()
Date: November 05, 2013 11:13AM
Quiet Riot Wrote:
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> The United States is spying on its own citizens
> illegally, and no one seems to mind. This is
> completely and totally illegal. No one cares. It's
> not an issue. It is not even discussed.
The United States does not care enough about you to spy on you. Get a grip.
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> The United States is spying on its own citizens
> illegally, and no one seems to mind. This is
> completely and totally illegal. No one cares. It's
> not an issue. It is not even discussed.
The United States does not care enough about you to spy on you. Get a grip.
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Re: The United States Government is Spying on You Illegally, Without a Warrant, and No One Cares
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: November 05, 2013 11:18AM
A great many of us care, and are revolted. Unfortunately it seems our politicians lack the backbone to stand up to the intelligence services because they don't want to be accused of allowing the next terrorist strike to occur.
Re: The United States Government is Spying on You Illegally, Without a Warrant, and No One Cares
Posted by:
Quiet Riot
()
Date: November 05, 2013 11:18AM
Tinfoil Hatted Chicken Little Wrote:
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> Quiet Riot Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The United States is spying on its own citizens
> > illegally, and no one seems to mind. This is
> > completely and totally illegal. No one cares.
> It's
> > not an issue. It is not even discussed.
>
> The United States does not care enough about you
> to spy on you. Get a grip.
>
>
The government has access to all of your personal communications. No, they don't care about you if you're not involved in anything threatening national security. The point is you surrender your freedom. Not about who's not doing anything wrong or who is. You gave up your rights without so much as a discussion about it.
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> Quiet Riot Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The United States is spying on its own citizens
> > illegally, and no one seems to mind. This is
> > completely and totally illegal. No one cares.
> It's
> > not an issue. It is not even discussed.
>
> The United States does not care enough about you
> to spy on you. Get a grip.
>
>
The government has access to all of your personal communications. No, they don't care about you if you're not involved in anything threatening national security. The point is you surrender your freedom. Not about who's not doing anything wrong or who is. You gave up your rights without so much as a discussion about it.
Re: The United States Government is Spying on You Illegally, Without a Warrant, and No One Cares
Posted by:
Mass insanity
()
Date: November 05, 2013 11:27AM
Quiet Riot Wrote:
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No, they don't care about you if
> you're not involved in anything threatening
> national security.
You mean like using the IRS to target your non violent opponents in an election?
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No, they don't care about you if
> you're not involved in anything threatening
> national security.
You mean like using the IRS to target your non violent opponents in an election?
Re: The United States Government is Spying on You Illegally, Without a Warrant, and No One Cares
Posted by:
The IRS Did Its Job
()
Date: November 05, 2013 11:32AM
Mass insanity Wrote:
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> You mean like using the IRS to target your non
> violent opponents in an election?
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> You mean like using the IRS to target your non
> violent opponents in an election?
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Re: The United States Government is Spying on You Illegally, Without a Warrant, and No One Cares
Posted by:
Tinfoil Hatted Chicken Little
()
Date: November 05, 2013 11:33AM
Quiet Riot Wrote:
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> The government has access to all of your personal
> communications. No, they don't care about you if
> you're not involved in anything threatening
> national security. The point is you surrender your
> freedom. Not about who's not doing anything wrong
> or who is. You gave up your rights without so much
> as a discussion about it.
What 'rights' are you talking about? What 'right' have you lost?
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> The government has access to all of your personal
> communications. No, they don't care about you if
> you're not involved in anything threatening
> national security. The point is you surrender your
> freedom. Not about who's not doing anything wrong
> or who is. You gave up your rights without so much
> as a discussion about it.
What 'rights' are you talking about? What 'right' have you lost?
Re: The United States Government is Spying on You Illegally, Without a Warrant, and No One Cares
Posted by:
eLester
()
Date: November 05, 2013 12:55PM
Quiet Riot Wrote:
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> Tinfoil Hatted Chicken Little Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Quiet Riot Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The United States is spying on its own
> citizens
> > > illegally, and no one seems to mind. This is
> > > completely and totally illegal. No one cares.
> > It's
> > > not an issue. It is not even discussed.
> >
> > The United States does not care enough about
> you
> > to spy on you. Get a grip.
> >
> >
>
>
> The government has access to all of your personal
> communications. No, they don't care about you if
> you're not involved in anything threatening
> national security. The point is you surrender your
> freedom. Not about who's not doing anything wrong
> or who is. You gave up your rights without so much
> as a discussion about it.
It's mostly used for political and industrial espionage. They haven't intercepted any real terrorist attacks. They may be using them to catch pedophiles, illegal file downloaders, online gamblers, and others. If they harm your political rights, it may be in the abuse of surveillance to disrupt grassroots dissident movements, such as the Wall Street protestors, anti-fracking groups, and others they see as a threat to economic interests. Those types of groups have the potential to seed political parties. See how the Tea Party got completely wrecked when the Republican Party co-opted the movement. We were left with the TP Patriots crap which essentially espoused more tax cuts and more defense spending.
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> Tinfoil Hatted Chicken Little Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Quiet Riot Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The United States is spying on its own
> citizens
> > > illegally, and no one seems to mind. This is
> > > completely and totally illegal. No one cares.
> > It's
> > > not an issue. It is not even discussed.
> >
> > The United States does not care enough about
> you
> > to spy on you. Get a grip.
> >
> >
>
>
> The government has access to all of your personal
> communications. No, they don't care about you if
> you're not involved in anything threatening
> national security. The point is you surrender your
> freedom. Not about who's not doing anything wrong
> or who is. You gave up your rights without so much
> as a discussion about it.
It's mostly used for political and industrial espionage. They haven't intercepted any real terrorist attacks. They may be using them to catch pedophiles, illegal file downloaders, online gamblers, and others. If they harm your political rights, it may be in the abuse of surveillance to disrupt grassroots dissident movements, such as the Wall Street protestors, anti-fracking groups, and others they see as a threat to economic interests. Those types of groups have the potential to seed political parties. See how the Tea Party got completely wrecked when the Republican Party co-opted the movement. We were left with the TP Patriots crap which essentially espoused more tax cuts and more defense spending.
Re: The United States Government is Spying on You Illegally, Without a Warrant, and No One Cares
Posted by:
u rub my back i suck your cock
()
Date: November 05, 2013 01:01PM
Bill.N. Wrote:
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> A great many of us care, and are revolted.
> Unfortunately it seems our politicians lack the
> backbone to stand up to the intelligence services
> because they don't want to be accused of allowing
> the next terrorist strike to occur.
Politicians don't stand up to the intel agencies because the intel agenices probably have damning evidence against them and they are using that for leverage.
Touche Intel, Touche!
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> A great many of us care, and are revolted.
> Unfortunately it seems our politicians lack the
> backbone to stand up to the intelligence services
> because they don't want to be accused of allowing
> the next terrorist strike to occur.
Politicians don't stand up to the intel agencies because the intel agenices probably have damning evidence against them and they are using that for leverage.
Touche Intel, Touche!
Re: The United States Government is Spying on You Illegally, Without a Warrant, and No One Cares
Posted by:
Tinfoil Hatted Chicken Little
()
Date: November 05, 2013 01:24PM
u rub my back i suck your cock Wrote:
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> Politicians don't stand up to the intel agencies
> because the intel agenices probably have damning
> evidence against them and they are using that for
> leverage.
What color is your tinfoil hat?
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> Politicians don't stand up to the intel agencies
> because the intel agenices probably have damning
> evidence against them and they are using that for
> leverage.
What color is your tinfoil hat?
Re: The United States Government is Spying on You Illegally, Without a Warrant, and No One Cares
Posted by:
G. Orwell
()
Date: November 05, 2013 01:25PM
I tried to warn you, but does anybody listen?
Re: The United States Government is Spying on You Illegally, Without a Warrant, and No One Cares
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
()
Date: November 05, 2013 01:38PM
I cared and still care. I was screaming bloody murder when these little bastards were passing the Patriot Act in the dark of night. The Patriot is still getting extended by a majority Republican vote. These dumbass fascists still have Bush Crusade Hard On Syndrome and its very difficult to keep their minds off their senseless boner.
Re: The United States Government is Spying on You Illegally, Without a Warrant, and No One Cares
Posted by:
cUTwW
()
Date: November 05, 2013 01:47PM
Quiet Riot Wrote:
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> Tinfoil Hatted Chicken Little Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Quiet Riot Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The United States is spying on its own
> citizens
> > > illegally, and no one seems to mind. This is
> > > completely and totally illegal. No one cares.
> > It's
> > > not an issue. It is not even discussed.
> >
> > The United States does not care enough about
> you
> > to spy on you. Get a grip.
> >
> >
>
>
> The government has access to all of your personal
> communications. No, they don't care about you if
> you're not involved in anything threatening
> national security. The point is you surrender your
> freedom. Not about who's not doing anything wrong
> or who is. You gave up your rights without so much
> as a discussion about it.
CORRECT - thank Bush.
BUT, you idiots will blame Obama for continuing a good program.
When did anyone think that ELECTRONIC communications were private?!?
EVERYTHING about you will go out on blast just using your credit card at Target, has been this way for decades.
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> Tinfoil Hatted Chicken Little Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Quiet Riot Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The United States is spying on its own
> citizens
> > > illegally, and no one seems to mind. This is
> > > completely and totally illegal. No one cares.
> > It's
> > > not an issue. It is not even discussed.
> >
> > The United States does not care enough about
> you
> > to spy on you. Get a grip.
> >
> >
>
>
> The government has access to all of your personal
> communications. No, they don't care about you if
> you're not involved in anything threatening
> national security. The point is you surrender your
> freedom. Not about who's not doing anything wrong
> or who is. You gave up your rights without so much
> as a discussion about it.
CORRECT - thank Bush.
BUT, you idiots will blame Obama for continuing a good program.
When did anyone think that ELECTRONIC communications were private?!?
EVERYTHING about you will go out on blast just using your credit card at Target, has been this way for decades.
Re: The United States Government is Spying on You Illegally, Without a Warrant, and No One Cares
Posted by:
Living.Free
()
Date: November 05, 2013 01:56PM
Quiet Riot Wrote:
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> Living.Free Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ZERO fucks given! I don't do anything illegal,
> > suspect or otherwise compromising or
> > questionable...if the government wants to
> observe
> > my movements and actions, that's fine because I
> > have nothing to hide.
>
>
> I hope you're trolling. You can't be that naive.
> You do understand there's a principle to all this
> that rises above the question of whether you're
> doing anything suspect. You welcome the government
> into your home, literally, and that sets a
> precedent. It's not about the fact you're
> completely innocent and law abiding.
I'm not trolling. C'mon into my life and my home, government! I have no problem whatsoever with them monitoring me, collecting data on me...whatever they want to do is fine. I live free, I don't break laws (ok, well admittedly, I have a few speeding tickets) and I don't harm others (though you could make the argument that if I don't slow the fuck down, I might).
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> Living.Free Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ZERO fucks given! I don't do anything illegal,
> > suspect or otherwise compromising or
> > questionable...if the government wants to
> observe
> > my movements and actions, that's fine because I
> > have nothing to hide.
>
>
> I hope you're trolling. You can't be that naive.
> You do understand there's a principle to all this
> that rises above the question of whether you're
> doing anything suspect. You welcome the government
> into your home, literally, and that sets a
> precedent. It's not about the fact you're
> completely innocent and law abiding.
I'm not trolling. C'mon into my life and my home, government! I have no problem whatsoever with them monitoring me, collecting data on me...whatever they want to do is fine. I live free, I don't break laws (ok, well admittedly, I have a few speeding tickets) and I don't harm others (though you could make the argument that if I don't slow the fuck down, I might).
Re: The United States Government is Spying on You Illegally, Without a Warrant, and No One Cares
Posted by:
Fat~Bottom~Girl
()
Date: November 05, 2013 02:25PM
Tinfoil Hatted Chicken Little Wrote:
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> Quiet Riot Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The United States is spying on its own citizens
> > illegally, and no one seems to mind. This is
> > completely and totally illegal. No one cares.
> It's
> > not an issue. It is not even discussed.
>
> The United States does not care enough about you
> to spy on you. Get a grip.
>
>
Hey libtard, Sinclair Lewis, an alcoholic commie never said that. What he wrote, in his novel 'It Can't Happen Here' was. "But he saw too that in America the struggle was befogged by the fact that the worst Fascists were they who disowned the word 'Fascism' and preached enslavement to Capitalism under the style of Constitutional and Traditional Native American Liberty."
Why not put that under the Palin pic and see how that looks.
Libtards....LoLz!
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> Quiet Riot Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The United States is spying on its own citizens
> > illegally, and no one seems to mind. This is
> > completely and totally illegal. No one cares.
> It's
> > not an issue. It is not even discussed.
>
> The United States does not care enough about you
> to spy on you. Get a grip.
>
>
Hey libtard, Sinclair Lewis, an alcoholic commie never said that. What he wrote, in his novel 'It Can't Happen Here' was. "But he saw too that in America the struggle was befogged by the fact that the worst Fascists were they who disowned the word 'Fascism' and preached enslavement to Capitalism under the style of Constitutional and Traditional Native American Liberty."
Why not put that under the Palin pic and see how that looks.
Libtards....LoLz!
Re: The United States Government is Spying on You Illegally, Without a Warrant, and No One Cares
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: November 05, 2013 02:31PM
Fat~Bottom~Girl Wrote:
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> Tinfoil Hatted Chicken Little Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Quiet Riot Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The United States is spying on its own
> citizens
> > > illegally, and no one seems to mind. This is
> > > completely and totally illegal. No one cares.
> > It's
> > > not an issue. It is not even discussed.
> >
> > The United States does not care enough about
> you
> > to spy on you. Get a grip.
> >
> >
>
>
> Hey libtard, Sinclair Lewis, an alcoholic commie
> never said that. What he wrote, in his novel 'It
> Can't Happen Here' was. "But he saw too that in
> America the struggle was befogged by the fact that
> the worst Fascists were they who disowned the word
> 'Fascism' and preached enslavement to Capitalism
> under the style of Constitutional and Traditional
> Native American Liberty."
>
> Why not put that under the Palin pic and see how
> that looks.
>
> Libtards....LoLz!
+1
I would have to add too that fascists are all about banning guns and disarming people-see Hitler and Mussolini.
Libtards think fascism is anything that opposes their Cult of Personality based around Obama.
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> Tinfoil Hatted Chicken Little Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Quiet Riot Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The United States is spying on its own
> citizens
> > > illegally, and no one seems to mind. This is
> > > completely and totally illegal. No one cares.
> > It's
> > > not an issue. It is not even discussed.
> >
> > The United States does not care enough about
> you
> > to spy on you. Get a grip.
> >
> >
>
>
> Hey libtard, Sinclair Lewis, an alcoholic commie
> never said that. What he wrote, in his novel 'It
> Can't Happen Here' was. "But he saw too that in
> America the struggle was befogged by the fact that
> the worst Fascists were they who disowned the word
> 'Fascism' and preached enslavement to Capitalism
> under the style of Constitutional and Traditional
> Native American Liberty."
>
> Why not put that under the Palin pic and see how
> that looks.
>
> Libtards....LoLz!
+1
I would have to add too that fascists are all about banning guns and disarming people-see Hitler and Mussolini.
Libtards think fascism is anything that opposes their Cult of Personality based around Obama.
Re: The United States Government is Spying on You Illegally, Without a Warrant, and No One Cares
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: November 05, 2013 07:40PM
WingNut Wrote:
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> I would have to add too that fascists are all
> about banning guns and disarming people-see Hitler
> and Mussolini.
Historical misstatement WingNut. Hitler actually liberalized pre-Nazi Germany's gun ownership laws in the late 1930s, expanding the rights of non-Jewish Germans to own firearms. It should be remembered that Europe had a long tradition of weapons restrictions, and the Germans confiscated weapons in occupied areas in WW1 under the Kaiser as well as WW2 under the Nazis.
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> I would have to add too that fascists are all
> about banning guns and disarming people-see Hitler
> and Mussolini.
Historical misstatement WingNut. Hitler actually liberalized pre-Nazi Germany's gun ownership laws in the late 1930s, expanding the rights of non-Jewish Germans to own firearms. It should be remembered that Europe had a long tradition of weapons restrictions, and the Germans confiscated weapons in occupied areas in WW1 under the Kaiser as well as WW2 under the Nazis.
Re: The United States Government is Spying on You Illegally, Without a Warrant, and No One Cares
Posted by:
FDR
()
Date: November 05, 2013 09:52PM
Bill.N. Wrote:
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> WingNut Wrote:
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> > I would have to add too that fascists are all
> > about banning guns and disarming people-see
> Hitler
> > and Mussolini.
>
> Historical misstatement WingNut. Hitler actually
> liberalized pre-Nazi Germany's gun ownership laws
> in the late 1930s, expanding the rights of
> non-Jewish Germans to own firearms. It should be
> remembered that Europe had a long tradition of
> weapons restrictions, and the Germans confiscated
> weapons in occupied areas in WW1 under the Kaiser
> as well as WW2 under the Nazis.
Please dont burst any bubbles!
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> WingNut Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I would have to add too that fascists are all
> > about banning guns and disarming people-see
> Hitler
> > and Mussolini.
>
> Historical misstatement WingNut. Hitler actually
> liberalized pre-Nazi Germany's gun ownership laws
> in the late 1930s, expanding the rights of
> non-Jewish Germans to own firearms. It should be
> remembered that Europe had a long tradition of
> weapons restrictions, and the Germans confiscated
> weapons in occupied areas in WW1 under the Kaiser
> as well as WW2 under the Nazis.
Please dont burst any bubbles!