“You Olympians, however, know you didn’t get here solely on your own power. For most of you, loving parents, sisters or brothers encouraged your hopes,” he said after praising the competitors in footage unearthed by NBC News. “Coaches guided, communities built venues in order to organize competitions. All Olympians stand on the shoulders of those who lifted them. We’ve already cheered the Olympians, let’s also cheer the parents, coaches and communities.”


http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/23/12904508-romney-to-olympians-you-didnt-get-here-solely-on-your-own?lite

Yes, Olympians and small business owners are EXACTLY the same. Is anyone actually buying this shit? The fact that the Obama campaign is even responding indicates he is losing.

messenger Wrote:
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> Yes, Olympians and small business owners are
> EXACTLY the same. Is anyone actually buying this
> shit? The fact that the Obama campaign is even
> responding indicates he is losing.


Same mentality. The It Takes a Village mentality.

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> Yes, Olympians and small business owners are
> EXACTLY the same. Is anyone actually buying this
> shit? The fact that the Obama campaign is even
> responding indicates he is losing.


Actually I think it is more insulting to the Athletes. Being one of the best in the world take a lot of hard work and personal time. Sure you can thank genetics, but personal sacrifice is huge.

The sentiment of Obama's speech is true. His delivery of it sucked.

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> messenger Wrote:
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> > Yes, Olympians and small business owners are
> > EXACTLY the same. Is anyone actually buying
> this
> > shit? The fact that the Obama campaign is even
> > responding indicates he is losing.
>
>
> Same mentality. The It Takes a Village mentality.


Yes, "loving parents, sisters or brothers" is akin to government help. Genius.

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> The sentiment of Obama's speech is true. His
> delivery of it sucked.


Bullshit it is. My business and success was built DESPITE government intervention not BECAUSE of it.

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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> > The sentiment of Obama's speech is true. His
> > delivery of it sucked.
>
>
> Bullshit it is. My business and success was built
> DESPITE government intervention not BECAUSE of it.


The point he was trying to make is that American society has put things into place to help you succeed in business. This includes the government, which has created the Internet, low-cost (to you) infrastructure and regulations that help you secure reasonably priced financing. If you don't believe this to be the case, go to Guatemala and try to start a business. There's a reason you see so many immigrants starting businesses here...because they can.

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fantasy land Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> > The sentiment of Obama's speech is true. His
> > delivery of it sucked.
>
>
> Bullshit it is. My business and success was built
> DESPITE government intervention not BECAUSE of it.

That foresight to build all those roads from your business was genius. It is right up there with you building a robust transportation and communication infrastructure networks. I salute you my sir!

messenger Wrote:
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> samemind Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > messenger Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Yes, Olympians and small business owners are
> > > EXACTLY the same. Is anyone actually buying
> > this
> > > shit? The fact that the Obama campaign is
> even
> > > responding indicates he is losing.
> >
> >
> > Same mentality. The It Takes a Village
> mentality.
>
>
> Yes, "loving parents, sisters or brothers" is akin
> to government help. Genius.

My brother and sister clapping didn't make me run a sub 10 100m. I did (and genetics, so thanks mom and dad). The government building that road outside my business did help me grow a business.

I salute you! Wrote:
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> fantasy land Wrote:
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> -----
> > WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The sentiment of Obama's speech is true. His
> > > delivery of it sucked.
> >
> >
> > Bullshit it is. My business and success was
> built
> > DESPITE government intervention not BECAUSE of
> it.
>
> That foresight to build all those roads from your
> business was genius. It is right up there with you
> building a robust transportation and communication
> infrastructure networks. I salute you my sir!


Are you serious? The government building roads lead to my profitable business? Next you'll be telling me that because my customers have air to breathe I should be thanking whoever put it there. You clearly have never had the aptitude, drive, or intelligence to start a business of your own. If you did, you wouldn't be making the moronic claim you just made. Also, last I checked, MaBell was not the US Government.

wow they only had to go back an entire decade to find something on romney. Maybe they eventually will find something recent. Comparing the help/support of parents to olympians vs. obama saying the government made the small business owners success, not their intelligence and hard work.

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>
>
> Are you serious? The government building roads
> lead to my profitable business? Next you'll be
> telling me that because my customers have air to
> breathe I should be thanking whoever put it there.
> You clearly have never had the aptitude, drive,
> or intelligence to start a business of your own.
> If you did, you wouldn't be making the moronic
> claim you just made. Also, last I checked, MaBell
> was not the US Government.

No. The US Government only set AT&T's rates, forced it to provide long distance to independent local providers and nationalized it during WWII.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsbury_Commitment

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nice try Wrote:
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> wow they only had to go back an entire decade to
> find something on romney. Maybe they eventually
> will find something recent. Comparing the
> help/support of parents to olympians vs. obama
> saying the government made the small business
> owners success, not their intelligence and hard
> work.


10 years ago was the last time he was employed.

How about a little credit to the state governments?

America had NO federal government until 1781.

Even after then, the feds did not have shit to do the invention of the airplane, lightbulb, telephone.

FUck this jug-eared bitch.

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> fantasy land Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> >
> > Are you serious? The government building roads
> > lead to my profitable business? Next you'll be
> > telling me that because my customers have air
> to
> > breathe I should be thanking whoever put it
> there.
> > You clearly have never had the aptitude,
> drive,
> > or intelligence to start a business of your own.
>
> > If you did, you wouldn't be making the moronic
> > claim you just made. Also, last I checked,
> MaBell
> > was not the US Government.
>
> No. The US Government only set AT&T's rates,
> forced it to provide long distance to independent
> local providers and nationalized it during WWII.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsbury_Commitment


Setting rates and nationalizing. Yeah, that is pro-business!

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> I salute you! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > fantasy land Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > The sentiment of Obama's speech is true.
> His
> > > > delivery of it sucked.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bullshit it is. My business and success was
> > built
> > > DESPITE government intervention not BECAUSE
> of
> > it.
> >
> > That foresight to build all those roads from
> your
> > business was genius. It is right up there with
> you
> > building a robust transportation and
> communication
> > infrastructure networks. I salute you my sir!
>
>
> Are you serious? The government building roads
> lead to my profitable business?


Yes, how do you get supplies, customers or anything? Magic?

> You clearly have never had the aptitude, drive,
> or intelligence to start a business of your own.
> If you did, you wouldn't be making the moronic
> claim you just made. Also, last I checked, MaBell
> was not the US Government.

Yeah you are right, there were no Government utility trucks installing phone lines, but they did create the regulations on how to build that network, gave tax breaks to ensure MaBell was profitable, and they did sort-of create that internet thing, so there is that...

10years Wrote:
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> nice try Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > wow they only had to go back an entire decade
> to
> > find something on romney. Maybe they eventually
> > will find something recent. Comparing the
> > help/support of parents to olympians vs. obama
> > saying the government made the small business
> > owners success, not their intelligence and hard
> > work.
>
>
> 10 years ago was the last time he was employed.


Hey dipshit, he was Governor of MA until January of 2007. That was 10 years ago? Are all Romney haters as mathematically challenged as you? Or, are you claiming that being Governor of a state is not a job?

WingNut Wrote:
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> How about a little credit to the state
> governments?
>
> America had NO federal government until 1781.
>
> Even after then, the feds did not have shit to do
> the invention of the airplane, light bulb,
> telephone.
>


No, the Feds didn't invent the airplane, lightbulb or telephone.

However, they did help build the aerospace industry by buying airplanes for the military when no one else was buying them. The Feds also subsidized commercial air service buy creating Air Mail when there weren't enough passengers to make it viable.

As for the light bulb, who put the fucking electrical lines down to use the thing? Ever hear of Rural Electrification Authority?

As for AT&T, you can see my link above. The Feds also heavily subsidized the creation of wireless and broadband.

The fact is the Federal government plays an important role in commercializing new technologies that aren't commercially viable on their own in the beginning. The Feds helped create and nurse the Internet for two friggin' decades.

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WingNut Wrote:
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> How about a little credit to the state
> governments?
>
> America had NO federal government until 1781.
>
> Even after then, the feds did not have shit to do
> the invention of the airplane, lightbulb,
> telephone.
>
> FUck this jug-eared bitch.

Airplane? Well they were really the only customer and drove the market through the military.

Those light bulbs are hard to light without those electric grids.

Same with phone.

yehaw! Wrote:
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>
>
> Setting rates and nationalizing. Yeah, that is
> pro-business!


In exchange for AT&T being a national monopoly. Yes, that is pro-business. If the government hadn't set those rates, small businesses wouldn't have been able to afford phone service in the early days. Because of the Feds, everyone had a phone, not just small portion of wealthy individuals able to afford high rates.

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really? Wrote:
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> 10years Wrote:
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> > nice try Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > wow they only had to go back an entire decade
> > to
> > > find something on romney. Maybe they
> eventually
> > > will find something recent. Comparing the
> > > help/support of parents to olympians vs.
> obama
> > > saying the government made the small business
> > > owners success, not their intelligence and
> hard
> > > work.
> >
> >
> > 10 years ago was the last time he was employed.
>
>
> Hey dipshit, he was Governor of MA until January
> of 2007. That was 10 years ago? Are all Romney
> haters as mathematically challenged as you? Or,
> are you claiming that being Governor of a state is
> not a job?

2006, but he is not running on that. Only Olympics and Bane or Bain

ANd what has Obama's part in the whole business/government dynamic been?
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interesting reality you have Wrote:
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> Yes, how do you get supplies, customers or
> anything? Magic?

It is called hard work, customer service and innovative solutions. The government just didn't build a road and all of a sudden I was profitable. This claim is so ridiculous it is laughable that you are even claiming it as rational.


> Yeah you are right, there were no Government
> utility trucks installing phone lines, but they
> did create the regulations on how to build that
> network, gave tax breaks to ensure MaBell was
> profitable, and they did sort-of create that
> internet thing, so there is that...

Regulations are oh so pro-business. If what you are saying is true, I should also be thanking the Wright Brothers, Henry Ford, Charles Parsons, Alexander Bell, Thomas Edison, Nikola Tesla, Garrett Morgan, etc. Hell, I had nothing to do with making my own living. I owe it all to the government and every other person who made all this possible.

WingNut Wrote:
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> ANd what has Obama's part in the whole
> business/government dynamic been?


Or

newstohim Wrote:
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> really? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 10years Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > nice try Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > wow they only had to go back an entire
> decade
> > > to
> > > > find something on romney. Maybe they
> > eventually
> > > > will find something recent. Comparing the
> > > > help/support of parents to olympians vs.
> > obama
> > > > saying the government made the small
> business
> > > > owners success, not their intelligence and
> > hard
> > > > work.
> > >
> > >
> > > 10 years ago was the last time he was
> employed.
> >
> >
> > Hey dipshit, he was Governor of MA until
> January
> > of 2007. That was 10 years ago? Are all
> Romney
> > haters as mathematically challenged as you?
> Or,
> > are you claiming that being Governor of a state
> is
> > not a job?
>
> 2006, but he is not running on that. Only
> Olympics and Bane or Bain


No, January of 2007, dipshit. No wonder you support Obama, you are an idiot that can't even get simple facts straight.

bututnut Wrote:
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> WingNut Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How about a little credit to the state
> > governments?
> >
> > America had NO federal government until 1781.
> >
> > Even after then, the feds did not have shit to
> do
> > the invention of the airplane, lightbulb,
> > telephone.
> >
> > FUck this jug-eared bitch.
>
> Airplane? Well they were really the only customer
> and drove the market through the military.
>
> Those light bulbs are hard to light without those
> electric grids.
>
> Same with phone.


Now the government built electric grids? Why the hell do I get a power bill if the government is providing it to me?

fantasy land Wrote:
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> interesting reality you have Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yes, how do you get supplies, customers or
> > anything? Magic?
>
> It is called hard work, customer service and
> innovative solutions. The government just didn't
> build a road and all of a sudden I was profitable.
> This claim is so ridiculous it is laughable that
> you are even claiming it as rational.

I agree profit was from your hard work, in exchange for the governments role you pay a portion of that profit to taxes.


> > Yeah you are right, there were no Government
> > utility trucks installing phone lines, but they
> > did create the regulations on how to build that
> > network, gave tax breaks to ensure MaBell was
> > profitable, and they did sort-of create that
> > internet thing, so there is that...
>
> Regulations are oh so pro-business. If what you
> are saying is true, I should also be thanking the
> Wright Brothers, Henry Ford, Charles Parsons,
> Alexander Bell, Thomas Edison, Nikola Tesla,
> Garrett Morgan, etc. Hell, I had nothing to do
> with making my own living. I owe it all to the
> government and every other person who made all
> this possible.


You should, but those those people wouldn't have a market if the government didn't help build roads, an electric grid, or spur demand through the military.

fantasy land Wrote:
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> Now the government built electric grids? Why the
> hell do I get a power bill if the government is
> providing it to me?


You should really know the history of the United States before you comment.

fantasy land Wrote:
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>
> Now the government built electric grids? Why the
> hell do I get a power bill if the government is
> providing it to me?

The government didn't build the electric grids, but it forced integration through regulation so that communities weren't bypassed and so that rates were affordable for consumers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Utility_Holding_Company_Act

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inthebox Wrote:
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> I agree profit was from your hard work, in
> exchange for the governments role you pay a
> portion of that profit to taxes.

So, MY taxes (along with countless others) paid for the roads and that is the sole reason I have been able to remain in business for 10 years? Yeah, makes perfect sense. The Soviet Union tried that collective mentality. Look where it got them.

> You should, but those those people wouldn't have a
> market if the government didn't help build roads,
> an electric grid, or spur demand through the
> military.

The electric grid was built by Wall Street investors.

notfox Wrote:
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> fantasy land Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Now the government built electric grids? Why
> the
> > hell do I get a power bill if the government is
> > providing it to me?
>
>
> You should really know the history of the United
> States before you comment.


Umm, I am not the one needing a history lesson. The government did NOT build the electric grid and your claim that it did is insanely stupid and telling about the rest of your insanely stupid assertions.

I just can't understand why you pro-big-gov folks are so eager for more federal government. Yes there are areas where it is necessary and has helped. It is clearly becoming to big and too powerful, it was never supposed to be this way. They managed to royally fuck us into the debt you see today and the massively bankrupt programs.

fantasy land Wrote:
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> inthebox Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I agree profit was from your hard work, in
> > exchange for the governments role you pay a
> > portion of that profit to taxes.
>
> So, MY taxes (along with countless others) paid
> for the roads and that is the sole reason I have
> been able to remain in business for 10 years?
> Yeah, makes perfect sense. The Soviet Union tried
> that collective mentality. Look where it got
> them.

Roads and other stuff, the other stuff is up for argument. But lets see what happens if no one paid taxes, good luck with your business adventures then.




> > You should, but those those people wouldn't have
> a
> > market if the government didn't help build
> roads,
> > an electric grid, or spur demand through the
> > military.
>
> The electric grid was built by Wall Street
> investors.

Portion, but read the thread, it has been covered. Read deeper in Wiki before you comment.

Bobby Collingsworth Wrote:
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> I just can't understand why you pro-big-gov folks
> are so eager for more federal government. Yes
> there are areas where it is necessary and has
> helped. It is clearly becoming to big and too
> powerful, it was never supposed to be this way.
> They managed to royally fuck us into the debt you
> see today and the massively bankrupt programs.

I don't think that is the point. No one is arguing for big government, but that government does play a role in developing markets. The level of involvement is up to debate.

wikireader Wrote:
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> Roads and other stuff, the other stuff is up for
> argument. But lets see what happens if no one
> paid taxes, good luck with your business
> adventures then.

Where did I complain about paying taxes?

> Portion, but read the thread, it has been covered.
> Read deeper in Wiki before you comment.


Covered incorrectly by morons. I know facts are difficult for OFA drones like you, but think about looking into some before you spoout off your nonsense

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>
> I don't think that is the point. No one is arguing
> for big government, but that government does play
> a role in developing markets. The level of
> involvement is up to debate.


There would be no commercial satellite industry without the Fed-supported space program. There would be no GPS, weather satellites or satellite television.

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> notfox Wrote:
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> -----
> > fantasy land Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > > Now the government built electric grids? Why
> > the
> > > hell do I get a power bill if the government
> is
> > > providing it to me?
> >
> >
> > You should really know the history of the
> United
> > States before you comment.
>
>
> Umm, I am not the one needing a history lesson.
> The government did NOT build the electric grid and
> your claim that it did is insanely stupid and
> telling about the rest of your insanely stupid
> assertions.

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> notequite Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > I don't think that is the point. No one is
> arguing
> > for big government, but that government does
> play
> > a role in developing markets. The level of
> > involvement is up to debate.
>
>
> There would be no commercial satellite industry
> without the Fed-supported space program. There
> would be no GPS, weather satellites or satellite
> television.


And those contribute to every small business? I don't use a single one of those in my business.

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>
>
> And those contribute to every small business? I
> don't use a single one of those in my business.


Jesus, you are stupid. Do you ever use FedEx or UPS? Do you know why you pay the rates you do and not more? GPS and weather forecasting play a part in that. Your insurance rates are set by an actuary who uses weather forecasting to make accurate predictions of insurance liability. Otherwise your rates would be higher. http://appsforactuaries.org/node/295

I'll be honest, you are pretty fucking stupid. You can argue that government is too big or spends to much time in areas it's not great at. But to suggest it has had no benefit for business just shows how fucking close-minded you are.

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> fantasy land Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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>
> >
> >
> > And those contribute to every small business?
> I
> > don't use a single one of those in my business.
>
>
> Jesus, you are stupid. Do you ever use FedEx or
> UPS? Do you know why you pay the rates you do and
> not more? GPS and weather forecasting play a part
> in that. Your insurance rates are set by an
> actuary who uses weather forecasting to make
> accurate predictions of insurance liability.
> Otherwise your rates would be higher.
> http://appsforactuaries.org/node/295
>
> I'll be honest, you are pretty fucking stupid. You
> can argue that government is too big or spends to
> much time in areas it's not great at. But to
> suggest it has had no benefit for business just
> shows how fucking close-minded you are.


Dipshit. I am arguing that it is a retarded statement that is overinflating the role of government in the success of business. You clearly want to believe that the almighty government is the sole reason that business exists in this country. We get it. It is a stupid irrational thought, but we get it.

And yeah, the government is handling the USPS just peachy.

^^^ Just ignore WTL. He has drunk so much leftist koolaid that he pisses blue and shits blue sugar cubes.

fantasy land Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > fantasy land Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > And those contribute to every small business?
>
> > I
> > > don't use a single one of those in my
> business.
> >
> >
> > Jesus, you are stupid. Do you ever use FedEx or
> > UPS? Do you know why you pay the rates you do
> and
> > not more? GPS and weather forecasting play a
> part
> > in that. Your insurance rates are set by an
> > actuary who uses weather forecasting to make
> > accurate predictions of insurance liability.
> > Otherwise your rates would be higher.
> > http://appsforactuaries.org/node/295
> >
> > I'll be honest, you are pretty fucking stupid.
> You
> > can argue that government is too big or spends
> to
> > much time in areas it's not great at. But to
> > suggest it has had no benefit for business just
> > shows how fucking close-minded you are.
>
>
> Dipshit. I am arguing that it is a retarded
> statement that is overinflating the role of
> government in the success of business. You
> clearly want to believe that the almighty
> government is the sole reason that business exists
> in this country. We get it. It is a stupid
> irrational thought, but we get it.
>
> And yeah, the government is handling the USPS just
> peachy.


This has really been blown out. First WTL is thinking Macro, Fantasy is Micro. But in reality it all comes down to Adam Smith's invisible hand. The question is are we getting to much fisting.

indivisible hand Wrote:
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> fantasy land Wrote:

>
>
> This has really been blown out. First WTL is
> thinking Macro, Fantasy is Micro. But in reality
> it all comes down to Adam Smith's invisible hand.
> The question is are we getting to much fisting.


Well, if you want to go back in history, truth is America is the product of a government grant.

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WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> fantasy land Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The sentiment of Obama's speech is true. His
> > > delivery of it sucked.
> >
> >
> > Bullshit it is. My business and success was
> built
> > DESPITE government intervention not BECAUSE of
> it.
>
>
> The point he was trying to make is that American
> society has put things into place to help you
> succeed in business. This includes the government,
> which has created the Internet, low-cost (to you)
> infrastructure and regulations that help you
> secure reasonably priced financing. If you don't
> believe this to be the case, go to Guatemala and
> try to start a business. There's a reason you see
> so many immigrants starting businesses
> here...because they can.

American society is NOT the government. It's we the people. You remember them right? Those people that agreed to allow the government to enforce the Constitution and the Bill of Rights? Especially to enforce that silly part about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The same people that allow the government to build roads and bridges with the people's money....good thing too since the government isn't in business to be a business.

Who created the internet? I see a long line of names on that list and none of them are the government.

How about we split the difference and just YOU move to Guatemala?

You don't seem to like the rest of the citizens of this country very much. You certainly don't give any of the businessmen in this country any respect.

Vexxxed Wrote:
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> Those people that agreed to allow the government to
> enforce the Constitution and the Bill of Rights?

Agreed with one part. We don't allow, We the people created and maintain who and what the government shall do...at least that is what we are led to believe.

Obama ads are already out saying he never uttered those words, that the Romney folks made it up. BTW Barry you can be smart and not be successful. It takes more than smarts to run a business.
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Obama thought it up when he was shitting that morning. He is a real piece of shit Our President is a Real piece of shit Liberal typical asshole he should of been assassinated by now. Barack you are a dick I'm done.
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Yeah, cause "the government" has a lot of it's own money to do all of these great things. lol

And plenty of business pay for roads and infrastructure either directly when building out some development or indirectly through taxes and/or specific fees and levies.

Pay attention now. I'll type slowly.

The
"Government"
Has
No
Money

Everything that the government does is paid for by taxpayers. (OK, not everything but the revenue sources beyond that are relatively trivial.)

Here's where he really got it. From Elizabeth "Fauxcahontas" Warren.





Obama doesn't take a leak without Jarrett, Warren, or Sebelius holding his willie and telling him how many times to shake it.

The problem with Ms. Warrens speech is that she acts as if these evil rich aren't paying their fair share when in fact they pay much more in taxes already. She uses the term fair very loosely. That is the problem with this liberal class warfare argument. Where does it end? 60% taxes? 80%? How about 99%?

The rich are greedy and want to stay in power, but they do create jobs and spend money in this economy too. Why keep scaring them off?

pONTIFICATION NATION Wrote:
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> The problem with Ms. Warrens speech is that she
> acts as if these evil rich aren't paying their
> fair share when in fact they pay much more in
> taxes already. She uses the term fair very
> loosely. That is the problem with this liberal
> class warfare argument. Where does it end? 60%
> taxes? 80%? How about 99%?
>
> The rich are greedy and want to stay in power, but
> they do create jobs and spend money in this
> economy too. Why keep scaring them off?


If you look at top CEO compensation, they typically receive pay of a million or two. The rest of the compensation is stock options. This means that they are paying a reduced tax of 15% on money that was never taxed as income. Plainly unfair, especially if you are asking average Americans to take cuts in Medicare, which they have paid into for 10, 20, 30 years.

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summed up right here....for some reason it wont embed...

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I could be wrong but I'm right 99% of the time

pONTIFICATION NATION Wrote:
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> The problem with Ms. Warrens speech is that she
> acts as if these evil rich aren't paying their
> fair share when in fact they pay much more in
> taxes already. She uses the term fair very
> loosely. That is the problem with this liberal
> class warfare argument. Where does it end? 60%
> taxes? 80%? How about 99%?
>
> The rich are greedy and want to stay in power, but
> they do create jobs and spend money in this
> economy too. Why keep scaring them off?


Obama, Jarrett, Warren, and most everyone else in his administration all are life-long social activists. What else would you expect? They just kinda hid that during the last election. Can't now.

Only someone who has never owned a business or managed one would say what Obama said. It doesn't surprise me though community organizer is a bullshit job anyway. I'm sure that just a cover for a money laundering scheme like his book deals.

sumguy Wrote:
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> Only someone who has never owned a business or
> managed one would say what Obama said. It doesn't
> surprise me though community organizer is a
> bullshit job anyway. I'm sure that just a cover
> for a money laundering scheme like his book deals.


A lot of truth in that. Most of those kinds of folks work experience is in jobs where money just kind of magically appears and there no real hard view of where it comes from or how it's spent. Money from foundations, grants, university budgets, etc., etc.

Somebody else builted thems taR BALLs use hads help"

B.H. Obama
Last Day
1/13/13
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No He didn't (build Dat) Wrote:
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> Somebody else builted thems taR BALLs use hads
> help"
>
> B.H. Obama
> Last Day
> 1/13/13


bad example...considering the oil industry gets the most government tit space to suckle from than anybody and the reason for the explosion was the company did not inspect a government mandated shut-off valve as they were supposed to according to regulation because it's expensive and time consuming.

Some people just hate Obama so much they refuse to acknowledge the truth. Everything he does is wrong to them.

Idiots continue to use ebonics in a way to mock him. Yet Obama is clearly more intelligent than them.

It all comes down to their fear and jealousy towards intelligent, successful black men.

Some people just love Obama so much they refuse to acknowledge the truth. Everything he does is right to them.

He uses ebonics in a way to make him appear more close to folks he'd never actually associate with. Yet Obama is clearly more intelligent than them.

It all comes down to their guilt and jealousy towards intelligent, successful white men.

I knew you would write in a way that would twist my words and type the reverse. When people do this, they normally have a psycholgical issue relating to denial. Instead of post something intelligent, you do the expected and lie/flip things around to remove/replace blame. It's like when people claim reverse racism. You need to examine yourself and recieve help.

graybeard Wrote:
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> ...you do the expected and lie/flip
> things around to remove/replace blame.

LOL! Now that's hilarious coming from an Obama lover.

Have you blamed Bush today?

This is sad. I would like to believe every child starts out with potential when born, but you had no chance from birth. Nobody claimed to love Obama, but you are fixated on him. Blame Bush? Like you blame Obama? Most people who can progress far enough to formulate their own opinions know Bush is the reason for the mess we are in. You have no clue why, how, or how to get out of it. You just spout non-sense. Your bedtime is soon.

Tell me, who are the 4 most important people in terms of setting the economic policy of this country? I'll wait.

"You didn't build that
Somebody else built that"

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graybeard Wrote:
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> This is sad. I would like to believe every child
> starts out with potential when born, but you had
> no chance from birth. Nobody claimed to love
> Obama, but you are fixated on him. Blame Bush?
> Like you blame Obama? Most people who can progress
> far enough to formulate their own opinions know
> Bush is the reason for the mess we are in. You
> have no clue why, how, or how to get out of it.
> You just spout non-sense. Your bedtime is soon.
>
> Tell me, who are the 4 most important people in
> terms of setting the economic policy of this
> country? I'll wait.


You didn't have to. Your posts drip with your ideology. And comparing anyone as far as blaming others with Obama's tendency to do so, just as you go on to do yourself, demonstrates that very clearly. Back to earth old man. I know the acid was good back then but time to get real. He's a failure. We don't care if it was Bush's fault. We want somebody who's going to fix it instead of making excuses. Time to turn the page.

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who is kidding whom Wrote:
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> Obama ads are already out saying he never uttered
> those words, that the Romney folks made it up.

Indeed, that little ellipsis in your from-the-net lying quote hides what Obama actually said. Why don't you look into it and come back here with the OTHER words?

I know, I know - that would be telling the truth and the truth is something the Insane and Imploding Party of Hatred (and No) simply cannot survive with.

You are liar.Typical of your ilk.

Fortunately, The People are getting tired of the crap (see the articles!); Obama is going to win by a landslide over the lying, plastice, amazingly fake Romney.

Just watch - it's gonna be fun.

4 more years, II Wrote:
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> who is kidding whom Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Obama ads are already out saying he never
> uttered
> > those words, that the Romney folks made it up.
>
> Indeed, that little ellipsis in your from-the-net
> lying quote hides what Obama actually said. Why
> don't you look into it and come back here with the
> OTHER words?
>
> I know, I know - that would be telling the truth
> and the truth is something the Insane and
> Imploding Party of Hatred (and No) simply cannot
> survive with.
>
> You are liar.Typical of your ilk.
>
> Fortunately, The People are getting tired of the
> crap (see the articles!); Obama is going to win by
> a landslide over the lying, plastice, amazingly
> fake Romney.
>
> Just watch - it's gonna be fun.


You denyin he said that? You do know that they have this thing called video and this thing called the internet. You can't lie like you used to. Evidence shows you to be wrong.

Rasmussen Tracking 7/24 - 7/26 1500 LV 3.0 44 49 Romney +5

January end date Wrote:
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>> Indeed, that little ellipsis in your from-the-net
>> lying quote hides what Obama actually said. Why
>> don't you look into it and come back here with the
>> OTHER words?
>
> You denyin he said that? You do know that they
> have this thing called video and this thing called
> the internet.

You don't know what an ellipsis is, huh?

Figures.

Rasmussen Tracking 7/24 - 7/26 1500 LV 3.0 44 49 Romney +5

4 more years, II Wrote:
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> January end date Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >> Indeed, that little ellipsis in your
> from-the-net
> >> lying quote hides what Obama actually said.
> Why
> >> don't you look into it and come back here with
> the
> >> OTHER words?
> >
> > You denyin he said that? You do know that they
> > have this thing called video and this thing
> called
> > the internet.
>
> You don't know what an ellipsis is, huh?
>
> Figures.

Oh, I do, and it is readily apparent that if you watch the whole speech that there are no words that can save him. Why do you think the Obama campaign is in full damage conrol mode? You won't address that issue, just like you wouldn't yesterday. OFA has no talking points to bail you out. As for ellipsises, Obama's entire Presidency is an ellipsis.

January end date Wrote:
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> ...As for ellipsises, Obama's entire Presidency
> is an ellipsis.


Your reply is a perfect example of the avoidance on facts that has characterized Romney's campaign!

We've heard much from the Republicans about how Obama's "economic plan" is bad for the country - over and over and over again. Then when asked "Okay, what would YOU do?", we get:

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...I believe Americans will hear a lot more about Governor Romney’s plan, and if you want to see in depth what his plan is, you can certainly research that and look at that more in depth. But overall, there have been a number of new regulations, over-zealous regulations, on small businesses enacted by this administration, and we have to look at those things...
====

and we get:

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Q: I’m asking you specifically: How does Mitt Romney’s plan balance the budget by 2020?

WALL: I think, if you look at the economic numbers, I’m not an economist and I’m not going to play an economist, I think that Mitt Romney has a proven record of bringing economies back. He brought down unemployment as governor, he created jobs as a governor, he was effective as a businessperson overall, and I think you have to apply those concepts. [...] You can’t discount that, and you can’t discount the fact that we have to be able to look at how we begin solving the debt problem and bringing that down, and to do that, number one, is to start with streamlining our tax code, bringing down our marginal tax rate, the regulations that have been overburdensome, and making real true spending cuts.
====

Ain't that a giggle!?

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So I ask you to quote the part of the Damining Obama Quote that the Insane and Imploding Party of Hatred (and No) has been spewing right left up and down and what do YOU reply?

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Oh, I do, and it is readily apparent that if you watch the whole speech that there are no words that can save him. Why do you think the Obama campaign is in full damage conrol mode? You won't address that issue, just like you wouldn't yesterday. OFA has no talking points to bail you out. As for ellipsises, Obama's entire Presidency is an ellipsis.
====

Now THAT'S a giggle!

4 more years, II Wrote:
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> January end date Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ...As for ellipsises, Obama's entire Presidency
> > is an ellipsis.
>
>
> Your reply is a perfect example of the avoidance
> on facts that has characterized Romney's
> campaign!
>
> We've heard much from the Republicans about how
> Obama's "economic plan" is bad for the country -
> over and over and over again. Then when asked
> "Okay, what would YOU do?", we get:
>
> ====
> ...I believe Americans will hear a lot more about
> Governor Romney’s plan, and if you want to see
> in depth what his plan is, you can certainly
> research that and look at that more in depth. But
> overall, there have been a number of new
> regulations, over-zealous regulations, on small
> businesses enacted by this administration, and we
> have to look at those things...
> ====
>
> and we get:
>
> ====
> Q: I’m asking you specifically: How does Mitt
> Romney’s plan balance the budget by 2020?
>
> WALL: I think, if you look at the economic
> numbers, I’m not an economist and I’m not
> going to play an economist, I think that Mitt
> Romney has a proven record of bringing economies
> back. He brought down unemployment as governor, he
> created jobs as a governor, he was effective as a
> businessperson overall, and I think you have to
> apply those concepts. [...] You can’t discount
> that, and you can’t discount the fact that we
> have to be able to look at how we begin solving
> the debt problem and bringing that down, and to do
> that, number one, is to start with streamlining
> our tax code, bringing down our marginal tax rate,
> the regulations that have been overburdensome, and
> making real true spending cuts.
> ====
>
> Ain't that a giggle!?
>
> ============
>
> So I ask you to quote the part of the Damining
> Obama Quote that the Insane and Imploding Party of
> Hatred (and No) has been spewing right left up and
> down and what do YOU reply?
>
> ====
> Oh, I do, and it is readily apparent that if you
> watch the whole speech that there are no words
> that can save him. Why do you think the Obama
> campaign is in full damage conrol mode? You won't
> address that issue, just like you wouldn't
> yesterday. OFA has no talking points to bail you
> out. As for ellipsises, Obama's entire Presidency
> is an ellipsis.
> ====
>
> Now THAT'S a giggle!


Not as giggly as your candidate. Obama's campaign has been an attack on Romney. Nothing more, nothing less. He has yet to tell us why HE deserves another term. You can't even tell us why. You simply resort to the politics of hate and destruction. Pretty sad for you and him.

"If you’ve got a business – you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen." - Barack Obama