Off-Topic :
Fairfax Underground
Welcome to Fairfax Underground, a project site designed to improve communication among residents of Fairfax County, VA. Feel free to post anything Northern Virginia residents would find interesting.
Welcome to Fairfax Underground, a project site designed to improve communication among residents of Fairfax County, VA. Feel free to post anything Northern Virginia residents would find interesting.
38 years
Posted by:
shakey1
()
Date: September 10, 2011 04:11AM
38 years later and I still wake up in the middle of the night in a panic.
Thanks Vietnam.
Thanks Vietnam.
Re: 38 years
Posted by:
Yucky23
()
Date: September 10, 2011 05:51AM
You sound like a failure.
My father served in Vietnam and killed shit tons of left-wing, genocidal, socialist, imperialists.
After he got out he got into Yale, never did drugs, never even got a single ticket, never had to see a shrink, never had panic attacks, none of that.
All of the other war vets I know are the same way.
PTSD is bullshit.
They should just call it "pussy syndrome".
Only whiney bitches complain about their experiences in war.
Whenever I see these former military embarrassments complaining about having PTSD I just want to fucking slap them for being a such a little bitch on TV.
You're a fucking embarrassment to our military and our nation when you act like that publicly.
You never really saw this kind of "woe is me" bullshit with the WwII and Korean War vets even though they saw FAR more worse shit.
It's especially bad now with this generation of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans because our society is a piece of liberal shit now.
"Get in touch with your feelings... Let it all out... It's okay to show your emotions..."
Um, no it's not.
Fuck this feminization of society and especially of our vets.
You look so fucking pathetic feeling sorry for yourselves.
And by giving into this whole leftist psychobabble bullshit, you just make yourself WORSE because you feel like a weak bitch for complaining all the time.
It's not natural for guys to be that way. It's not masculine. It goes against our nature. When they tell you to go get "treatment", tell them to go fuck themselves.
Man up and get over your bullshit and carry on with your life.
Yeah, you might be a little messed up right after you get out because you lose your "innocence" in war and have seen some awful shit.
But if you can't get over that in a couple years then you're just garbage.
My father served in Vietnam and killed shit tons of left-wing, genocidal, socialist, imperialists.
After he got out he got into Yale, never did drugs, never even got a single ticket, never had to see a shrink, never had panic attacks, none of that.
All of the other war vets I know are the same way.
PTSD is bullshit.
They should just call it "pussy syndrome".
Only whiney bitches complain about their experiences in war.
Whenever I see these former military embarrassments complaining about having PTSD I just want to fucking slap them for being a such a little bitch on TV.
You're a fucking embarrassment to our military and our nation when you act like that publicly.
You never really saw this kind of "woe is me" bullshit with the WwII and Korean War vets even though they saw FAR more worse shit.
It's especially bad now with this generation of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans because our society is a piece of liberal shit now.
"Get in touch with your feelings... Let it all out... It's okay to show your emotions..."
Um, no it's not.
Fuck this feminization of society and especially of our vets.
You look so fucking pathetic feeling sorry for yourselves.
And by giving into this whole leftist psychobabble bullshit, you just make yourself WORSE because you feel like a weak bitch for complaining all the time.
It's not natural for guys to be that way. It's not masculine. It goes against our nature. When they tell you to go get "treatment", tell them to go fuck themselves.
Man up and get over your bullshit and carry on with your life.
Yeah, you might be a little messed up right after you get out because you lose your "innocence" in war and have seen some awful shit.
But if you can't get over that in a couple years then you're just garbage.
Re: 38 years
Posted by:
shakey1
()
Date: September 10, 2011 07:09AM
Yucky23 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> You sound like a failure.
>
> My father served in Vietnam and killed shit tons
> of left-wing, genocidal, socialist, imperialists.
>
> After he got out he got into Yale, never did
> drugs, never even got a single ticket, never had
> to see a shrink, never had panic attacks, none of
> that.
>
> All of the other war vets I know are the same
> way.
>
> PTSD is bullshit.
>
> They should just call it "pussy syndrome".
>
> Only whiney bitches complain about their
> experiences in war.
>
> Whenever I see these former military
> embarrassments complaining about having PTSD I
> just want to fucking slap them for being a such a
> little bitch on TV.
>
> You're a fucking embarrassment to our military and
> our nation when you act like that publicly.
>
> You never really saw this kind of "woe is me"
> bullshit with the WwII and Korean War vets even
> though they saw FAR more worse shit.
>
> It's especially bad now with this generation of
> Iraq and Afghanistan veterans because our society
> is a piece of liberal shit now.
>
> "Get in touch with your feelings... Let it all
> out... It's okay to show your emotions..."
>
> Um, no it's not.
>
> Fuck this feminization of society and especially
> of our vets.
>
> You look so fucking pathetic feeling sorry for
> yourselves.
>
> And by giving into this whole leftist psychobabble
> bullshit, you just make yourself WORSE because you
> feel like a weak bitch for complaining all the
> time.
>
> It's not natural for guys to be that way. It's not
> masculine. It goes against our nature. When they
> tell you to go get "treatment", tell them to go
> fuck themselves.
>
> Man up and get over your bullshit and carry on
> with your life.
>
> Yeah, you might be a little messed up right after
> you get out because you lose your "innocence" in
> war and have seen some awful shit.
>
> But if you can't get over that in a couple years
> then you're just garbage.
Wow thats some great info, Thanks!
Your Dad sounds like a total peice of shit, like a Frank Burns type of guy.
-------------------------------------------------------
> You sound like a failure.
>
> My father served in Vietnam and killed shit tons
> of left-wing, genocidal, socialist, imperialists.
>
> After he got out he got into Yale, never did
> drugs, never even got a single ticket, never had
> to see a shrink, never had panic attacks, none of
> that.
>
> All of the other war vets I know are the same
> way.
>
> PTSD is bullshit.
>
> They should just call it "pussy syndrome".
>
> Only whiney bitches complain about their
> experiences in war.
>
> Whenever I see these former military
> embarrassments complaining about having PTSD I
> just want to fucking slap them for being a such a
> little bitch on TV.
>
> You're a fucking embarrassment to our military and
> our nation when you act like that publicly.
>
> You never really saw this kind of "woe is me"
> bullshit with the WwII and Korean War vets even
> though they saw FAR more worse shit.
>
> It's especially bad now with this generation of
> Iraq and Afghanistan veterans because our society
> is a piece of liberal shit now.
>
> "Get in touch with your feelings... Let it all
> out... It's okay to show your emotions..."
>
> Um, no it's not.
>
> Fuck this feminization of society and especially
> of our vets.
>
> You look so fucking pathetic feeling sorry for
> yourselves.
>
> And by giving into this whole leftist psychobabble
> bullshit, you just make yourself WORSE because you
> feel like a weak bitch for complaining all the
> time.
>
> It's not natural for guys to be that way. It's not
> masculine. It goes against our nature. When they
> tell you to go get "treatment", tell them to go
> fuck themselves.
>
> Man up and get over your bullshit and carry on
> with your life.
>
> Yeah, you might be a little messed up right after
> you get out because you lose your "innocence" in
> war and have seen some awful shit.
>
> But if you can't get over that in a couple years
> then you're just garbage.
Wow thats some great info, Thanks!
Your Dad sounds like a total peice of shit, like a Frank Burns type of guy.
Re: 38 years
Posted by:
Ellipsis
()
Date: September 10, 2011 07:12AM
Yucky23 Blathered (and I replied):
-------------------------------------------------------
> You sound like a failure.
Perception is not reality
> My father served in Vietnam and killed shit tons
> of left-wing, genocidal, socialist, imperialists.
> After he got out he got into Yale, never did
> drugs, never even got a single ticket, never had
> to see a shrink, never had panic attacks, none of
> that.
One data point out of many.
> All of the other war vets I know are the same
> way.
How many are they?
> PTSD is bullshit.
[citation needed]
> They should just call it "pussy syndrome".
[citation needed], ad hominem
> Only whiney bitches complain about their
> experiences in war.
[citation needed]
> Whenever I see these former military
> embarrassments complaining about having PTSD I
> just want to fucking slap them for being a such a
> little bitch on TV.
That is your business so long as you do not act on it.
> You're a fucking embarrassment to our military and
> our nation when you act like that publicly.
He made an anonymous post on a message board. You have no proof that he carries on this way in public.
> You never really saw this kind of "woe is me"
> bullshit with the WwII and Korean War vets even
> though they saw FAR more worse shit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_stress_reaction#History
> It's especially bad now with this generation of
> Iraq and Afghanistan veterans because our society
> is a piece of liberal shit now.
While I am not a fan of current social norms, part of this may be related to the stigma of PTSD being less than in prior conflicts.
> "Get in touch with your feelings... Let it all
> out... It's okay to show your emotions..."
>
> Um, no it's not.
I recall we have free speech in this country, at least on paper.
> Fuck this feminization of society and especially
> of our vets.
How is discussing one's feelings feminine?
> You look so fucking pathetic feeling sorry for
> yourselves.
You look so pathetic busting yapping at someone for an anonymous internet post to which you are not a party.
> And by giving into this whole leftist psychobabble
> bullshit, you just make yourself WORSE because you
> feel like a weak bitch for complaining all the
> time.
Firstly, you have no proof that the poster is discussing this matter frequently, much less 'all the time'.
Secondly, how is one to figure out how to cope with these things if one does not at least acknowledge them?
> It's not natural for guys to be that way. It's not
> masculine. It goes against our nature. When they
> tell you to go get "treatment", tell them to go
> fuck themselves.
It is not very natural for man to kill one another; almost every ethical code penned by human hand says 'do not kill' for a reason.
> Man up and get over your bullshit and carry on
> with your life.
You presuppose such things are voluntary.
> Yeah, you might be a little messed up right after
> you get out because you lose your "innocence" in
> war and have seen some awful shit.
>
> But if you can't get over that in a couple years
> then you're just garbage.
On account of the nonsense reasons you specified above? Laughable.
-------------------------------------------------------
> You sound like a failure.
Perception is not reality
> My father served in Vietnam and killed shit tons
> of left-wing, genocidal, socialist, imperialists.
> After he got out he got into Yale, never did
> drugs, never even got a single ticket, never had
> to see a shrink, never had panic attacks, none of
> that.
One data point out of many.
> All of the other war vets I know are the same
> way.
How many are they?
> PTSD is bullshit.
[citation needed]
> They should just call it "pussy syndrome".
[citation needed], ad hominem
> Only whiney bitches complain about their
> experiences in war.
[citation needed]
> Whenever I see these former military
> embarrassments complaining about having PTSD I
> just want to fucking slap them for being a such a
> little bitch on TV.
That is your business so long as you do not act on it.
> You're a fucking embarrassment to our military and
> our nation when you act like that publicly.
He made an anonymous post on a message board. You have no proof that he carries on this way in public.
> You never really saw this kind of "woe is me"
> bullshit with the WwII and Korean War vets even
> though they saw FAR more worse shit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_stress_reaction#History
> It's especially bad now with this generation of
> Iraq and Afghanistan veterans because our society
> is a piece of liberal shit now.
While I am not a fan of current social norms, part of this may be related to the stigma of PTSD being less than in prior conflicts.
> "Get in touch with your feelings... Let it all
> out... It's okay to show your emotions..."
>
> Um, no it's not.
I recall we have free speech in this country, at least on paper.
> Fuck this feminization of society and especially
> of our vets.
How is discussing one's feelings feminine?
> You look so fucking pathetic feeling sorry for
> yourselves.
You look so pathetic busting yapping at someone for an anonymous internet post to which you are not a party.
> And by giving into this whole leftist psychobabble
> bullshit, you just make yourself WORSE because you
> feel like a weak bitch for complaining all the
> time.
Firstly, you have no proof that the poster is discussing this matter frequently, much less 'all the time'.
Secondly, how is one to figure out how to cope with these things if one does not at least acknowledge them?
> It's not natural for guys to be that way. It's not
> masculine. It goes against our nature. When they
> tell you to go get "treatment", tell them to go
> fuck themselves.
It is not very natural for man to kill one another; almost every ethical code penned by human hand says 'do not kill' for a reason.
> Man up and get over your bullshit and carry on
> with your life.
You presuppose such things are voluntary.
> Yeah, you might be a little messed up right after
> you get out because you lose your "innocence" in
> war and have seen some awful shit.
>
> But if you can't get over that in a couple years
> then you're just garbage.
On account of the nonsense reasons you specified above? Laughable.
Re: 38 years
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 10, 2011 08:12AM
PTSD isn't bullshit. I read something once that it is believed PTSD occurs because military drills turn killing into an involuntary impulse that the more developed portion of the brain never reconciles. Odds are everyone who has experienced combat has some level of PTSD. Some are just better at hiding it than others.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm
Re: 38 years
Posted by:
Nam69-70
()
Date: September 12, 2011 08:44AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> PTSD isn't bullshit. I read something once that it
> is believed PTSD occurs because military drills
> turn killing into an involuntary impulse that the
> more developed portion of the brain never
> reconciles. Odds are everyone who has experienced
> combat has some level of PTSD. Some are just
> better at hiding it than others.
You are correct in saying that PTSD isn't bullshit. Combat experiences
are only one factor however. Months on end of little sleep, constant
fear of rocket attacks, mortars, sappers, etc. will drive you up a
wall. Throw in a cadre of obese officers and senior NCO's who are only
there to punch a ticket towards retirement and now you have a morale
problem. All the while the brass are telling you how happy you are to
be there. Come home to an indifferent and sometimes hostile environment
and things start to grow. I left Nam in the spring of 70 and there
are still lingering after effects even though I've gone to college,
raised a family, and overall, led a very successful life. I'll introduce
another factor. Some people are fucked up in the head before they
even join the military so all the PTSD counseling in the world
isn't going to help a bit.
-------------------------------------------------------
> PTSD isn't bullshit. I read something once that it
> is believed PTSD occurs because military drills
> turn killing into an involuntary impulse that the
> more developed portion of the brain never
> reconciles. Odds are everyone who has experienced
> combat has some level of PTSD. Some are just
> better at hiding it than others.
You are correct in saying that PTSD isn't bullshit. Combat experiences
are only one factor however. Months on end of little sleep, constant
fear of rocket attacks, mortars, sappers, etc. will drive you up a
wall. Throw in a cadre of obese officers and senior NCO's who are only
there to punch a ticket towards retirement and now you have a morale
problem. All the while the brass are telling you how happy you are to
be there. Come home to an indifferent and sometimes hostile environment
and things start to grow. I left Nam in the spring of 70 and there
are still lingering after effects even though I've gone to college,
raised a family, and overall, led a very successful life. I'll introduce
another factor. Some people are fucked up in the head before they
even join the military so all the PTSD counseling in the world
isn't going to help a bit.
Re: 38 years
Posted by:
iz
()
Date: September 12, 2011 04:36PM
I don't think you can know unless you've been through it.
Sort of like these gun advocates who've never had to point a loaded weapon at another person before crying about needing a gun to feel safe.
Being in a combat zone changes your perspective.
Sort of like these gun advocates who've never had to point a loaded weapon at another person before crying about needing a gun to feel safe.
Being in a combat zone changes your perspective.
Re: 38 years
Posted by:
Hank Moody
()
Date: September 12, 2011 05:13PM
I'd like to see Yucky23's trolling piece of shit ass dumped in a VFW hall while he's spouting his bullshit.
On another note, holy shit Ellipsis, you finally registered.
On another note, holy shit Ellipsis, you finally registered.
Re: 38 years
Posted by:
Bill N
()
Date: September 12, 2011 11:07PM
Hank Moody Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I'd like to see Yucky23's trolling piece of shit
> ass dumped in a VFW hall while he's spouting his
> bullshit.
>
Be sure to forward them an advance copy so they can have an extra large "welcoming committee".
-------------------------------------------------------
> I'd like to see Yucky23's trolling piece of shit
> ass dumped in a VFW hall while he's spouting his
> bullshit.
>
Be sure to forward them an advance copy so they can have an extra large "welcoming committee".
Re: 38 years
Posted by:
eesh
()
Date: September 12, 2011 11:10PM
Yucky23 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Only whiney bitches complain about their
> experiences in war.
And where did you serve?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Only whiney bitches complain about their
> experiences in war.
And where did you serve?
Re: The year 2000 was 15 years ago so technically, soon I am supposed to start feeling nostalgia for the year 2000 right? except I am not I still think everything from the year 2000 onward SUCKED ASS.
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: September 12, 2011 11:21PM
Re: The year 2000 was 15 years ago so technically, soon I am supposed to start feeling nostalgia for the year 2000 right? except I am not I still think everything from the year 2000 onward SUCKED ASS.
idontlikebeingrightaboutshitlikethisbutiam
Edited 21 time(s). Last edit at 5/31/1967 05:57AM by WingNut.
Last edit at 11/30/2015 01:37PM Last edit at 5/14/2015 03:52PM Last edit at 1/28/2014 05:57AM Last edit at 11/29/2015 01:10PM Last edit at 3/14/2011 11:52PM Last edit at 7/20/2012 04:07AM
Last edit at 6/29/2013 11:18PM Last edit at 3/19/2011 01:02PM Last edit at 3/26/2012 09:07PM
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/20/2015 09:29PM by WingNut.