There are no second acts in American lives.
F. Scott Fitzgerald


Oh yeah???




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I swear to God I just thought about this quote and how absurd it is just this morning. I was listening to Mike & Mike (total asshats, but the Junks were on commercial) talking about the redemption and praise (much deserved, IMO) that Mike Vick is getting right now. I thought to myself, F. Scott was wrong. Then I started to parse that statement. I thought, well, maybe he meant that American lives might have ups and downs, comebacks and redemptions, but it's all part of the same act, the same motivation. In Shakespeare, for example, the difference between Act I of Othello and Act III entails an enormous shift in emotion, motivation, charactver development, etc. In American lives, those themes are always the same, even though the circumstances may change.

Then, I thought to myself, well, maybe I'm completely over-analyzing the quote. So I basically dismissed my explanation/apologia as absurd. Yes, F. Scott was wrong.

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boom boom Mancini Wrote:
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> I swear to God I just thought about this quote and
> how absurd it is just this morning. I was
> listening to Mike & Mike (total asshats, but the
> Junks were on commercial) talking about the
> redemption and praise (much deserved, IMO) that
> Mike Vick is getting right now. I thought to
> myself, F. Scott was wrong. Then I started to
> parse that statement. I thought, well, maybe he
> meant that American lives might have ups and
> downs, comebacks and redemptions, but it's all
> part of the same act, the same motivation. In
> Shakespeare, for example, the difference between
> Act I of Othello and Act III entails an enormous
> shift in emotion, motivation, charactver
> development, etc. In American lives, those themes
> are always the same, even though the circumstances
> may change.
>
> Then, I thought to myself, well, maybe I'm
> completely over-analyzing the quote. So I
> basically dismissed my explanation/apologia as
> absurd. Yes, F. Scott was wrong.


And, really, The Great Gatsby may be "The Great American Novel," but is it really better than "The Grapes of Wrath" or "To Kill a Mocking Bird" or "The Catcher in the Rye?" Don't think so.

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I agree. Another good example, albeit not necessarily American, is the buddha. There have been at least 28 acts and who knows but maybe 29 is lurking somewhere among the amber waves of grain.
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But his cousin F Stop Fitzgerald was a really great photographer!

krispy kringle Wrote:
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> But his cousin F Stop Fitzgerald was a really
> great photographer!


Talking about F-ing Stopping....

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LOL:

edit by Cary: Personal attack imagery removed.



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A lover without discretion is no lover at all. F Scott Fitzgerald.

OK, take at shot art what he is saying there.

Wow, nice photoshop of the 'two' Vick pictures.

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> A lover without discretion is no lover at all. F
> Scott Fitzgerald.
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> OK, take at shot art what he is saying there.


If your lover isn't discreet, she is no longer your lover on both the figurative and literal front. Figuratively, because she doesn't love you enough to be discreet. Literally, because once she is no longer discreet, she can no longer be your lover.

But then again, he was a dumbass, so that's probably not what he meant at all.

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that book is so overrated. I hate any book they assigned me to read in school. Way to take the zest out of reading for kids. Assign them a book, the ones who might have picked up a healthy interest in reading otherwise will never read another book again. School ruins reading for many a kid.

My hero, L Ron Hubbard, went from mediocre sci-fi writer to cult leader worth hundreds of million of dollars. Most cults die with the leader, but since his death in the 80s, Scientology has kept on growing and being even more insidious.




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the only thing i'm truly thankful to fitzgerald for was his wife, zelda.
zelda was quite the brilliant headcase.
i'm surprised he didn't kill her sooner than he did.
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boom boom Mancini Wrote:
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> I swear to God I just thought about this quote and
> how absurd it is just this morning. I was
> listening to Mike & Mike (total asshats, but the
> Junks were on commercial) talking about the
> redemption and praise (much deserved, IMO) that
> Mike Vick is getting right now. I thought to
> myself, F. Scott was wrong. Then I started to
> parse that statement. I thought, well, maybe he
> meant that American lives might have ups and
> downs, comebacks and redemptions, but it's all
> part of the same act, the same motivation. In
> Shakespeare, for example, the difference between
> Act I of Othello and Act III entails an enormous
> shift in emotion, motivation, charactver
> development, etc. In American lives, those themes
> are always the same, even though the circumstances
> may change.
>
> Then, I thought to myself, well, maybe I'm
> completely over-analyzing the quote. So I
> basically dismissed my explanation/apologia as
> absurd. Yes, F. Scott was wrong.





Wait a min. You think Mike & Mike are asshats but you like the Junkies? You sir are a dumb fuck

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without zelda fitlgzegald, wer nwouldnt have The Legend of Zelda.
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> without zelda fitlgzegald, wer nwouldnt have The
> Legend of Zelda.

i dunno about that, miz.
wait, is your kitty on your keyboard again?

yeefuckinghaw

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Radiophile Wrote:
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> -----
> > A lover without discretion is no lover at all.
> F
> > Scott Fitzgerald.
> >
> > OK, take at shot art what he is saying there.
>
>
> If your lover isn't discreet, she is no longer
> your lover on both the figurative and literal
> front. Figuratively, because she doesn't love you
> enough to be discreet. Literally, because once she
> is no longer discreet, she can no longer be your
> lover.
>

Very well put. Basically, if you two are banging - for God's sake keep your mouth shut. It can benefit no one blabbing and can only hurt at least one of you.

graymoose1 Wrote:
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> boom boom Mancini Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I swear to God I just thought about this quote
> and
> > how absurd it is just this morning. I was
> > listening to Mike & Mike (total asshats, but
> the
> > Junks were on commercial) talking about the
> > redemption and praise (much deserved, IMO) that
> > Mike Vick is getting right now. I thought to
> > myself, F. Scott was wrong. Then I started to
> > parse that statement. I thought, well, maybe he
> > meant that American lives might have ups and
> > downs, comebacks and redemptions, but it's all
> > part of the same act, the same motivation. In
> > Shakespeare, for example, the difference
> between
> > Act I of Othello and Act III entails an
> enormous
> > shift in emotion, motivation, charactver
> > development, etc. In American lives, those
> themes
> > are always the same, even though the
> circumstances
> > may change.
> >
> > Then, I thought to myself, well, maybe I'm
> > completely over-analyzing the quote. So I
> > basically dismissed my explanation/apologia as
> > absurd. Yes, F. Scott was wrong.
>
>
>
>
>
> Wait a min. You think Mike & Mike are asshats but
> you like the Junkies? You sir are a dumb fuck


Touche. Yes, the Junkies are fucking morons, but at least they're funny. M&M are the most blase, lowest-common-denominator, corny douchebags on the radio.

This is a line from Fitzgerald's unfinished novel "The Last Tycoon," which like The Great Gatsby is narrated by a character whose voice spouts like glistening water from a fountain, which far outpaces the poor fellow's rucksack of a mind. Almost certainly the same was true Of Fitzgerald himself, but that's why it's such a good thing he chose to write novels with fictional narrators rather than sociological tracts.

All I'm trying to say is that it's not fair to take a line like this from a novel and attribute it to the author as if he believed it. You've got to interpret it in its context. Fitzgerald may not have been the most brilliant man ever to have walked the earth, but I'm condifent he was more than intelligent enough not to believe a tenth of what he wrote.

John L Dunkin Wrote:
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> This is a line from Fitzgerald's unfinished novel
> "The Last Tycoon," which like The Great Gatsby is
> narrated by a character whose voice spouts like
> glistening water from a fountain, which far
> outpaces the poor fellow's rucksack of a mind.
> Almost certainly the same was true Of Fitzgerald
> himself, but that's why it's such a good thing he
> chose to write novels with fictional narrators
> rather than sociological tracts.
>
> All I'm trying to say is that it's not fair to
> take a line like this from a novel and attribute
> it to the author as if he believed it. You've got
> to interpret it in its context. Fitzgerald may not
> have been the most brilliant man ever to have
> walked the earth, but I'm condifent he was more
> than intelligent enough not to believe a tenth of
> what he wrote.


Fitzgerald wrote the Great American Novel. I would think it would be obvious my comment about him being a dumbass was tongue-in-cheek.

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I'm condifent it was. But there's a way of holding your tongue in your cheek that makes you sound clever as opposed to severely mentally handicapped. Practice, my boy, and perhaps you'll be condifent too someday.

John H D Wrote:
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> I'm condifent it was. But there's a way of holding
> your tongue in your cheek that makes you sound
> clever as opposed to severely mentally
> handicapped. Practice, my boy, and perhaps you'll
> be condifent too someday.


From Urban Dictionary. Sounds about right.

Condifent

(adj) Arrogant, yet stupid.

Noun version - condifence
Michele Bachmann displays a high level of condifence.

Law school gunners are typically very condifent individuals.

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I'd have admired the effort more if you'd made up that definition. But I suppose there are worse ways to get your practice than google and serendipity. Keep your head up, good sir!

Zelda was quite a dish. Worthy of her own hot or not thread.