So much for evoking Reagan's "Shining City on the Hill"...

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/06/21/116178/jon-huntsman-to-announce-presidential.html

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Yeah, living in denial would be much more successful.

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> Yeah, living in denial would be much more
> successful.


Jimmy Carter used to talk about how shitty things were all of the time. Look how that worked out for him.

Americans don't need Jon Huntsman to tell them what the problems are. Americans know what they are. Americans want answers. Reagan gave answers. Huntsman didn't.

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Hell, he has my vote. If Big Tom Callahan supports him that's all I need to know. You could get a hell of good look at a T-Bone by sticking your head up a bull's ass, but wouldn't you rather take the buthcher's word for it?

Go Huntsman!

Different from Jon 2012 on Vimeo.

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> in debt Wrote:
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> > Yeah, living in denial would be much more
> > successful.
>
>
> Jimmy Carter used to talk about how shitty things
> were all of the time. Look how that worked out for
> him.

He was the sitting President telling people that everything sucked. Big Big difference. Even a simpleton can see that difference.

> Americans don't need Jon Huntsman to tell them
> what the problems are. Americans know what they
> are. Americans want answers. Reagan gave answers.
> Huntsman didn't.

You don't always have to have answers to win. Look at Obama.

Is "Different" anything like "Change?"

Married "forever." Sounds like Mormon talk to me.

Wow, that script is terrible. "Blessed?" Not in it for the balloons??

This is really a rambling piece of shit video. America from "10,000 miles?" Is he talking about China or Utah?

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The next guy is also screwed. It will be another exercise in seeing how much of the problems can be put off. Nothing's been fixed because the sacrifices are big and keep getting bigger.

Look, we get it, this is the candidate the Obamamachine worried about the most. Now that he is on the scene, they are sending the OFA minions to spam message boards around the country.

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> Look, we get it, this is the candidate the
> Obamamachine worried about the most. Now that he
> is on the scene, they are sending the OFA minions
> to spam message boards around the country.


Look at the commercial. It's shit on its own merits! It's a free flowing crap flood of badly written prose.

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> DNC tactic Wrote:
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> > Look, we get it, this is the candidate the
> > Obamamachine worried about the most. Now that
> he
> > is on the scene, they are sending the OFA
> minions
> > to spam message boards around the country.
>
>
> Look at the commercial. It's shit on its own
> merits! It's a free flowing crap flood of badly
> written prose.


I am not talking about the commercial, I am talking about all of your other criticisms. All straight from the OFA. As for the commercial, it isn't great, but it introduces someone that most people aren't very familiar with. I suppose you could do better?

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> I am not talking about the commercial, I am
> talking about all of your other criticisms. All
> straight from the OFA. As for the commercial, it
> isn't great, but it introduces someone that most
> people aren't very familiar with. I suppose you
> could do better?

You should share the information from the OFA. I have no idea what you are talking about.

As for doing better on the video, a diseased chimp with a Flip Cam could do a better job.

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> You should share the information from the OFA. I
> have no idea what you are talking about.

Yeah, I am sure you have no idea whatsoever. Your posts just randomly and coincidentally mirror their recent email.

> As for doing better on the video, a diseased chimp
> with a Flip Cam could do a better job.

Yes, the arial shots are complete amateur rubbish.

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> Yeah, I am sure you have no idea whatsoever. Your
> posts just randomly and coincidentally mirror
> their recent email.
>

Maybe their e-mail is a reflection of reality. I haven't seen it, though. Obviously, you have.


> Yes, the arial shots are complete amateur rubbish.

Not so much. But the concept and script are.

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> >
> > Yeah, I am sure you have no idea whatsoever.
> Your
> > posts just randomly and coincidentally mirror
> > their recent email.
> >
>
> Maybe their e-mail is a reflection of reality. I
> haven't seen it, though. Obviously, you have.

Yeah, you just came up with these all on your own. A political expert.


> > Yes, the arial shots are complete amateur
> rubbish.
>
> Not so much. But the concept and script are.

A media expert too I see. A real Renaissance man we have on our hands here.

Always funny when election time rolls around everyone, even Democrats, start to channel Ronald Reagan.

Like Huntsman for instance

1: He's pro-choice

2: He's pro-gay marriage

3: He believes in man made global warming, pro cap and trade

4: Pro Obamacare

5: Pro stimulus spending

Dude is a flash in the pan.

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> Always funny when election time rolls around
> everyone, even Democrats, start to channel Ronald
> Reagan.
>
> Like Huntsman for instance
>
> 1: He's pro-choice
>
> 2: He's pro-gay marriage
>
> 3: He believes in man made global warming, pro cap
> and trade
>
> 4: Pro Obamacare
>
> 5: Pro stimulus spending
>
> Dude is a flash in the pan.

My Gaydar went off with this guy. Not a chance, another GOP candidate done in a month.

So apparently the guy who created the horrible Jon Huntsman ad is the same guy who blew up Christine O'Donnell's campaign with the "I'm not a witch" ad and who made Carly Fiorina look ridiculous with "Demon Sheep." You would think with that track record, Huntsman would have picked someone who was competent, but I guess he really doesn't want to win.

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> So apparently the guy who created the horrible Jon
> Huntsman ad is the same guy who blew up Christine
> O'Donnell's campaign with the "I'm not a witch" ad
> and who made Carly Fiorina look ridiculous with
> "Demon Sheep." You would think with that track
> record, Huntsman would have picked someone who was
> competent, but I guess he really doesn't want to
> win.


O'Donnell was a joke. What Davis accomplished with that spot and that candidate was insanely (no pun intended) incrediible. Do you vote in DE?

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>
> O'Donnell was a joke. What Davis accomplished
> with that spot and that candidate was insanely (no
> pun intended) incrediible. Do you vote in DE?


Yes, incredible. The ad came out on October 5, 20110 and a week later her opponent's lead increased by nearly 2 percentage points.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/senate/de/delaware_senate_oadonnell_vs_coons-1670.html

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> >
> >
> > O'Donnell was a joke. What Davis accomplished
> > with that spot and that candidate was insanely
> (no
> > pun intended) incrediible. Do you vote in DE?
>
>
> Yes, incredible. The ad came out on October 5,
> 20110 and a week later her opponent's lead
> increased by nearly 2 percentage points.
>
> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/senat
> e/de/delaware_senate_oadonnell_vs_coons-1670.html

Yeah, she was destined to lose - regardless of the ad. You clearly aren't in the business and are a big blowhard. Again, do you vote in DE or watch much TV in DE?

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> Yeah, she was destined to lose - regardless of the
> ad. You clearly aren't in the business and are a
> big blowhard. Again, do you vote in DE or watch
> much TV in DE?


Yes. I'm not in the business of making horrible campaign ads that sink the candidates I'm working for.

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> >
> > Yeah, she was destined to lose - regardless of
> the
> > ad. You clearly aren't in the business and are
> a
> > big blowhard. Again, do you vote in DE or
> watch
> > much TV in DE?
>
>
> Yes. I'm not in the business of making horrible
> campaign ads that sink the candidates I'm working
> for.

I doubt you are in any business related to media or politics.

She sunk her own candidacy. Everyone who has half a brain knew her candidacy was down the shitter before and after that ad ran. The ad actually accomplished a great deal for her candidacy. Answer the question posed to you twice, and maybe you can start thinking a bit more intelligently - Do you vote in DE and/or watch much TV in DE?

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> I doubt you are in any business related to media
> or politics.
>

I own an Italian restaurant and drive an armored car when I'm not DJ-ing in Roanoke.

> She sunk her own candidacy. Everyone who has half
> a brain knew her candidacy was down the shitter
> before and after that ad ran. The ad actually
> accomplished a great deal for her candidacy.

Seriously, what? Please back up that contention. I provided evidence that it actually hurt her candidacy. You've provided nothing.

> Answer the question posed to you twice, and maybe
> you can start thinking a bit more intelligently -
> Do you vote in DE and/or watch much TV in DE?

Why is that relevant? Look at her poll numbers. Look at how much she lost by. If the goal of the ad was to make her a laughing stock both inside and outside of Delaware, I have no doubt it succeeded on that level.

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> mad man Wrote:
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> >
> > I doubt you are in any business related to
> media
> > or politics.
> >
>
> I own an Italian restaurant and drive an armored
> car when I'm not DJ-ing in Roanoke.
>
> > She sunk her own candidacy. Everyone who has
> half
> > a brain knew her candidacy was down the shitter
> > before and after that ad ran. The ad actually
> > accomplished a great deal for her candidacy.
>
> Seriously, what? Please back up that contention. I
> provided evidence that it actually hurt her
> candidacy. You've provided nothing.
>
I think there are plenty of issues which sunk her candidacy - the ad being one of them. Delaware is a pretty moderate to slightly left leaning state. The fact that she managed to beat a fairly moderate candidate to become the nominee doomed her. Moderates in Texas and Arizona might have voted for her; moderates in Delaware - no.

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WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> I own an Italian restaurant and drive an armored
> car when I'm not DJ-ing in Roanoke.

Given your statements, I would not doubt these contentions.

> Seriously, what? Please back up that contention. I
> provided evidence that it actually hurt her
> candidacy. You've provided nothing.

You provided no suche evidence. Is your contention that the ad actually cost her standing in the polls? If so, you are even more idiotic than I previously assumed. She took in considerable amounts of money after that ad. THe national extablishment abandoned her campaign and decided (wisely) not to invest in her losing endeavor. She did, however, raise a ton of cash from small donors across the country. In that respect, the ad was a success.


> Why is that relevant? Look at her poll numbers.
> Look at how much she lost by. If the goal of the
> ad was to make her a laughing stock both inside
> and outside of Delaware, I have no doubt it
> succeeded on that level.

So, you are incapable of determining whether or not you vote in DE and/or watch much DE tv? It is relevant because how many other out of state Senate ads did you view the last election cycle?

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> mad man Wrote:
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>
> >
> >
> > O'Donnell was a joke. What Davis accomplished
> > with that spot and that candidate was insanely
> (no
> > pun intended) incrediible. Do you vote in DE?
>
>
> Yes, incredible. The ad came out on October 5,
> 20110 and a week later her opponent's lead
> increased by nearly 2 percentage points.
>
> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/senat
> e/de/delaware_senate_oadonnell_vs_coons-1670.html

You think that there is a causal relationship between the ad an the poll drop???? Seriously? No, for real, are you serious??????