Okay, I'm a liberal. I really do want to see government used to help those who are at a disadvantage. But this fucking idiot is the most worthless piece of shit president I have ever voted for.

Yeah, I've had half a bottle of Grey Good tonight because I had a really shitty day. I don't normally have even two drinks a week so it's not like Im an alcoholic but I'm pretty damn buzzed right now.

I've been hoping Obama would turn out okay but seriously, he is a train wreck. This doesn't mean I'm going the other end of the spectrum and becoming an asshole republican that waont allow gay marriage or abortion and thinks eberyone is a terrorist but I am SOOOOOOO fucking disappointed in who I voted for president. He is fucking up healthcare (not that it wasnt fucked up on its own already), he looks like a moron to foregin countries,. he stutters like a Downs Syndrome child and he is getting absolutely fucking nothing done to improve this countries economy Okay, fuck all of you time for another drink. Franco over and out.

if we had good jobs, and a health care system that was more open to charity, we could get by without socialized medicine. problem is, corporations have taken over everything. shipped all the manufacturing jobs out, so that whole class of people are poor now. and hospitals are run like businesses for making maximum profit. there are some charity hospitals left, for sure, but not enough. most charity hospitals are church-affiliated, and churches haven't been doing so great lately. and the issue with Fox News is that it isn't republican... they say they are, but really they are corporatists that have co-opted the republican party. they have taken the capitalist system and used it to rape this country. obedient consumers is what we are to be. nothing stands in the way of it. geography, communities... they get run over.

Franco fucked up Wrote:
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> Okay, I'm a liberal. I really do want to see
> government used to help those who are at a
> disadvantage. But this fucking idiot is the most
> worthless piece of shit president I have ever
> voted for.
>
> Yeah, I've had half a bottle of Grey Good tonight
> because I had a really shitty day. I don't
> normally have even two drinks a week so it's not
> like Im an alcoholic but I'm pretty damn buzzed
> right now.
>
> I've been hoping Obama would turn out okay but
> seriously, he is a train wreck. This doesn't mean
> I'm going the other end of the spectrum and
> becoming an asshole republican that waont allow
> gay marriage or abortion and thinks eberyone is a
> terrorist but I am SOOOOOOO fucking disappointed
> in who I voted for president. He is fucking up
> healthcare (not that it wasnt fucked up on its own
> already), he looks like a moron to foregin
> countries,. he stutters like a Downs Syndrome
> child and he is getting absolutely fucking nothing
> done to improve this countries economy Okay, fuck
> all of you time for another drink. Franco over
> and out.

I'm not happy with him either, but he's a waaay better choice than Romney.

Voice Of Reason Wrote:
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>
> I'm not happy with him either, but he's a waaay
> better choice than Romney.

I don't understand how you can say that. You may have seen Romney as a governor and a businessman. But, you think you have the intuition to claim he would have been worse than Obama?

We're in one heck of a crisis here in America. I'm not a registered Republican either ... but still.

The only "solution" the Republicans offer is cut taxes for rich people. Obamacare hasn't even started yet, so not sure what problems you're saying that has created. Obama hasn't been able to do much in his second term because Republicans have been blocking everything they can.

the truth of it Wrote:
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> The only "solution" the Republicans offer is cut
> taxes for rich people. Obamacare hasn't even
> started yet, so not sure what problems you're
> saying that has created. Obama hasn't been able
> to do much in his second term because Republicans
> have been blocking everything they can.

I voted Republican so they would stop Obama's bullshit. Obamacare hasn't started yet? You must living under a rock.

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>
> I voted Republican so they would stop Obama's
> bullshit. Obamacare hasn't started yet? You must
> living under a rock.


That's basically what happens when someone like the truth of it gets their news from MSNBC and The Washington Post There's a reason why they call them low-information voters.

the truth of it Wrote:
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> Obamacare hasn't even
> started yet, so not sure what problems you're
> saying that has created.

How about many large employers like UPS and UVA forcing spouses to take their employers insurance if their company offers it, because of Obamacare?

How about many companies not hiring more than 49 employees so they don't hit the arbitrary number of 50 employees because of Obamacare?

How about many full time jobs being reduced to less than the arbitrary 30 hours per week so that companies will not have to pay benefits (read health care) because of Obamacare.

How about large companies like IBM and Time Warner forcing retirees off of their insurance plans because of the increasing costs due to Obamacare.

Wrong forum and stop blaming your own problems on political figures that barely and rarely will have an impact on you.

How SPECIFICALLY has Obamacare impacted you? Nothin to say, thought so.

fuckin bs Wrote:
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> How SPECIFICALLY has Obamacare impacted you?
> Nothin to say, thought so.


My insurance company discontinued the type of 'grandfathered' individual policy that I was under. So I've now had to move to one of the new Obamacare-compliant plans which increased the cost by about 30%. Even though I don't need coverage for pregnancy, kids 26 and under, and all of the rest of the crap that I'll never use but now pay for.

You have no clue. Thought so.

What happened to affordable health care for all Americans? Sham, smoke and mirrors. Vote republican get this scam repealed.

fuckin bs Wrote:
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> How SPECIFICALLY has Obamacare impacted you?
> Nothin to say, thought so.


Typical lib, I answer the question with facts and they try to change the question. How about an increase in rates of 25%? See I do have something to say. The next posts should be laden with swearing, personal insults and genitalia insults. Wait for it...

VCLVL Wrote:
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> My insurance company discontinued the type of
> 'grandfathered' individual policy that I was
> under. So I've now had to move to one of the new
> Obamacare-compliant plans which increased the cost
> by about 30%. Even though I don't need coverage
> for pregnancy, kids 26 and under, and all of the
> rest of the crap that I'll never use but now pay
> for.

I smell bullshit.

We tried to warn you Sheeple and White guilters that this guy is bad for America.
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hillarylewinski Wrote:
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> We tried to warn you Sheeple and White guilters
> that this guy is bad for America.

Conservaturds! And your alternatives were McFear and Mittens?

LoLz!


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Libs don't get it Wrote:
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> the truth of it Wrote:
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> -----
> > Obamacare hasn't even
> > started yet, so not sure what problems you're
> > saying that has created.
>
> How about many large employers like UPS and UVA
> forcing spouses to take their employers insurance
> if their company offers it, because of Obamacare?
>
> How about many companies not hiring more than 49
> employees so they don't hit the arbitrary number
> of 50 employees because of Obamacare?
>
> How about many full time jobs being reduced to
> less than the arbitrary 30 hours per week so that
> companies will not have to pay benefits (read
> health care) because of Obamacare.
>
> How about large companies like IBM and Time Warner
> forcing retirees off of their insurance plans
> because of the increasing costs due to Obamacare.


Businesses have been screwing their employees out of every benefit they used to have for years. Now you want to blame Obamacare...how conveneint you simpleton.

liberal logic 27 Wrote:
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> VCLVL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > My insurance company discontinued the type of
> > 'grandfathered' individual policy that I was
> > under. So I've now had to move to one of the
> new
> > Obamacare-compliant plans which increased the
> cost
> > by about 30%. Even though I don't need
> coverage
> > for pregnancy, kids 26 and under, and all of
> the
> > rest of the crap that I'll never use but now
> pay
> > for.
>
> I smell bullshit.

It's you.

Pick up your phone now and call Aetna. Ask the nice customer service rep who answers if you can sign up for the same individual VA PPO Preferred 80/20 $8K deductible plan that they offered 8 years ago without all of the requirements resulting from the AHCA. Let us know what they say.

The answer should be obvious without going through that though since plans now are required by the law to include such coverage. They will point you to the new and improved equivalent AHCA-compliant plan at a cost, at least for my age group and other specifics, ~30% higher. Even if you could get one, unless they are compliant that could subject you to penalties under the individual mandate requirements.

the truth of it Wrote:
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> The only "solution" the Republicans offer is cut
> taxes for rich people. Obamacare hasn't even
> started yet, so not sure what problems you're
> saying that has created. Obama hasn't been able
> to do much in his second term because Republicans
> have been blocking everything they can.


Yup, and the GOP still haven't done jack shit in Congress either. All republicans have done is run their mouths with no solutions and get the US credit rating dropped.

Fuck these pansy ass religious sham republicans! Completely worthless!

RomneyCare! Wrote:
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>
> Yup, and the GOP still haven't done jack shit in
> Congress either. All republicans have done is run
> their mouths with no solutions and get the US
> credit rating dropped.
>
> Fuck these pansy ass religious sham republicans!
> Completely worthless!

Thank you! Keep watching!

RomneyCare! Wrote:
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> the truth of it Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > The only "solution" the Republicans offer is
> cut
> > taxes for rich people. Obamacare hasn't even
> > started yet, so not sure what problems you're
> > saying that has created. Obama hasn't been
> able
> > to do much in his second term because
> Republicans
> > have been blocking everything they can.
>
>
> Yup, and the GOP still haven't done jack shit in
> Congress either. All republicans have done is run
> their mouths with no solutions and get the US
> credit rating dropped.
>
> Fuck these pansy ass religious sham republicans!
> Completely worthless!


You do know who controls the Senate, correct?

Clump Wrote:
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> Libs don't get it Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > the truth of it Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Obamacare hasn't even
> > > started yet, so not sure what problems you're
> > > saying that has created.
> >
> > How about many large employers like UPS and UVA
> > forcing spouses to take their employers
> insurance
> > if their company offers it, because of
> Obamacare?
> >
> > How about many companies not hiring more than
> 49
> > employees so they don't hit the arbitrary
> number
> > of 50 employees because of Obamacare?
> >
> > How about many full time jobs being reduced to
> > less than the arbitrary 30 hours per week so
> that
> > companies will not have to pay benefits (read
> > health care) because of Obamacare.
> >
> > How about large companies like IBM and Time
> Warner
> > forcing retirees off of their insurance plans
> > because of the increasing costs due to
> Obamacare.
>
>
> Businesses have been screwing their employees out
> of every benefit they used to have for years. Now
> you want to blame Obamacare...how conveneint you
> simpleton.


The federal government has been screwing their taxpayers out of every tax dollar they can get for the past 5 years. Now they have Obamacare to help them...how conveneint you simpleton.

Fixed it for you Wrote:
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> The federal government has been screwing their
> taxpayers out of every tax dollar they can get for
> the past 5 years.

We've had an income tax in this counrty for almost 100 years. Tax rates are lower now than they were five years ago. WTF are you talking about?



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liberal logic 27 Wrote:
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> Fixed it for you Wrote:
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> > The federal government has been screwing their
> > taxpayers out of every tax dollar they can get
> for
> > the past 5 years.
>
> We've had an income tax in this counrty for almost
> 100 years. Tax rates are lower now than they were
> five years ago. WTF are you talking about?

That's stupid.

liberal logic 27 Wrote:
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> Fixed it for you Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > The federal government has been screwing their
> > taxpayers out of every tax dollar they can get
> for
> > the past 5 years.
>
> We've had an income tax in this counrty for almost
> 100 years. Tax rates are lower now than they were
> five years ago. WTF are you talking about?


Where did I say "income tax?" I said "every tax dollar." You need to learn to read. So this is what I am talking about:

A 3.8% surtax on "investment income" when your adjusted gross income is more than $200,000 ($250,000 for joint-filers).

A 0.9% surtax on Medicare taxes for those making $200,000 or more ($250,000 joint).

Flexible Spending Account contributions will be capped at $2,500.

The itemized-deduction hurdle for medical expenses is going up to $10,000.

The penalty on non-medical withdrawals from Healthcare Savings Accounts is now 20% instead of 10%.

A tax of 10% on indoor tanning services.

A 40% tax on "Cadillac Health Care Plans" starting in 2018.

A"Medicine Cabinet Tax" that eliminates the ability to pay for over-the-counter medicines

A "penalty" tax for those who don't buy health insurance.

A tax on medical devices costing more than $100.

But all you see is the income tax. Open your eyes. And Ralph, yes these taxes are stupid.

Fixed it for you Wrote:
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> Where did I say "income tax?" I said "every tax
> dollar."

Ah, yes: Cherrypicking. The true last refuge of a scoundrel. Not to mention that most of the obamacare-related taxes you cite haven't even taken effect yet, let alone over the past five tears.

> But all you see is the income tax. Open your
> eyes. And Ralph, yes these taxes are stupid.

The truth, of course, is far different for most Americans:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/30/us/most-americans-face-lower-tax-burden-than-in-the-80s.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

http://www.rgj.com/article/20110421/NEWS20/110421053/Fact-checker-taxes-lower-under-Obama-than-under-Reagan-Clinton-

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/07/10/everything-obama-has-done-and-wants-to-do-on-taxes-in-one-post/

Obama’s first term has been heavy on tax cuts, especially those — like the stimulus tax breaks, insurance tax credits, and payroll tax cut — targeted at lower and middle-income people. Of the almost $2 trillion in tax cuts passed during his tenure, only the $570 billion that went toward extending the Bush tax cuts and the AMT patch primarily benefited upper and upper-middle income families.

He looks set to continue those lower-income breaks going forward, but with a new emphasis on both phasing out upper-income cuts (like the Bush cuts for those making over $250,000 a year) and imposing new taxes on high-income people, through measures like the itemized deduction cap, the closure of the carried interest loophole, and the Buffett rule. What’s more, the new taxes in the Affordable Care Act set to take effect in 2014, such as the excise tax on expensive plans and the Medicare payroll tax surcharge, primarily target high-income people, while the law’s tax cuts primarily target low-income people. So even if Congress takes no new action, the phase out of the Bush cuts and the implementation of the ACA look to set back rich taxpayers considerably.



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liberal logic 27 Wrote:
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> Fixed it for you Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Where did I say "income tax?" I said "every
> tax
> > dollar."
>
> Ah, yes: Cherrypicking. The true last refuge of a
> scoundrel. Not to mention that most of the
> obamacare-related taxes you cite haven't even
> taken effect yet, let alone over the past five
> tears.
>
> > But all you see is the income tax. Open your
> > eyes. And Ralph, yes these taxes are stupid.
>
> The truth, of course, is far different for most
> Americans:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/30/us/most-american
> s-face-lower-tax-burden-than-in-the-80s.html?pagew
> anted=all&_r=0
>
> http://www.rgj.com/article/20110421/NEWS20/1104210
> 53/Fact-checker-taxes-lower-under-Obama-than-under
> -Reagan-Clinton-
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/20
> 12/07/10/everything-obama-has-done-and-wants-to-do
> -on-taxes-in-one-post/
>
> Obama’s first term has been heavy on tax cuts,
> especially those — like the stimulus tax breaks,
> insurance tax credits, and payroll tax cut —
> targeted at lower and middle-income people. Of the
> almost $2 trillion in tax cuts passed during his
> tenure, only the $570 billion that went toward
> extending the Bush tax cuts and the AMT patch
> primarily benefited upper and upper-middle income
> families.

So Obama is trying to count extending the Bush tax cuts as his tax cut. The cut was already in place. He is saying that since he did not raise our taxes, it is a tax cut. What a load that is.
>
> He looks set to continue those lower-income breaks
> going forward, but with a new emphasis on both
> phasing out upper-income cuts (like the Bush cuts
> for those making over $250,000 a year) and
> imposing new taxes on high-income people, through
> measures like the itemized deduction cap, the
> closure of the carried interest loophole, and the
> Buffett rule. What’s more, the new taxes in the
> Affordable Care Act set to take effect in 2014,
> such as the excise tax on expensive plans and the
> Medicare payroll tax surcharge, primarily target
> high-income people, while the law’s tax cuts
> primarily target low-income people. So even if
> Congress takes no new action, the phase out of the
> Bush cuts and the implementation of the ACA look
> to set back rich taxpayers considerably.


The last sentence says it all. He is trying to over tax the people who pay the most taxes. But taxation is not static as the government would like it to be. People who are over taxed will find a way around this. Just like businesses and UVA (a state school) and even the unions are doing with Obamacare.

It is not the governments job to help the disadvantaged. We should be free to help ourselves and our families. It is called personal responsibilities.

Bernie Zehr Wrote:
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> It is not the governments job to help the
> disadvantaged. We should be free to help
> ourselves and our families. It is called personal
> responsibilities.


LOLOLOL. That's funny. That went out a long time ago. Ask any Prog now and it's the government's job to take care of every little -- or big -- problem everyone has. And you should be thankful that you're allowed to pay for it. There is on personal responsibility, we are all victims and therefore entitled.

I am not rich. But I pay over forty percent of my income in taxes. I rarely take a big vacation and do not buy new cars. I do not live in a really expensive house. I would like to be able to keep more of what I earn. That would enable me to help more peoeplw tih my giving.

I would like to see the earned income tax credit ended. I have been in Section 8 apartments where there are televisions large enough to put a cot inside them and no books.

I want the border sealed so there are jobs for American citizens.

I would like the DemoNazi Party trounced in the next two elections so we can fix the mess that big-eared numb nuts has made.

I did not vote for Obama because I knew he was a crooked lying Chicago politician. The starry eyed fools who voted for him are too ignorant to vote.

You can try to deflect all you want. You can try to continue to blame Bush. You can even make fun of Romney (though he isn't even in the picture at this point). You can try to blame Republicans for hating women. You can put up all the birth control smokecreens in the world.

BUT...

The bottom line is that you voted for a socialist unqualified black guy for no other reasons beyond his color and party affiliation. The irreparable damage he has done to the US is all on you. But, but, but...Bush lied. What fucking ever. It's not been Bush's fault for a long time.

That's the fucking truth.
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> I did not vote for Obama because I knew he was a
> crooked lying Chicago politician. The starry eyed
> fools who voted for him are too ignorant to vote.


Or we voted for him because he was a better option than bourgeois Romney.

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> > I did not vote for Obama because I knew he was
> a
> > crooked lying Chicago politician. The starry
> eyed
> > fools who voted for him are too ignorant to
> vote.
>
>
> Or we voted for him because he was a better option
> than bourgeois Romney.


Yeah, the millions that he got from Wall Street and other billionaire donors were different.

There's a difference between campaign finance and bourgeois mentality.

If you think Obama doesn't think he's better than you, you are truly delusional.

He probably believes he's more important however I guarantee you Romney believes he's more important, mentally superior, genetically superior, etc.

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> Bernie Zehr Wrote:
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> > I did not vote for Obama because I knew he was
> a
> > crooked lying Chicago politician. The starry
> eyed
> > fools who voted for him are too ignorant to
> vote.
>
>
> Or we voted for him because he was a better option
> than bourgeois Romney.

Why was a guy who was a community organizer with ZERO executive experience, never earned anything in life, was born with a silver spoon, went to the best private school in Hawaii, raised by a banking executive, has a reputation for lying his ass off, is a marxist a better choice?

You're referring to Romney, right? The only person to be born with a silver spoon was Romney.

The US is a country, not company.

Romney is just as big of a liar.

Obama is not a Marxist, not even close, he's a Reagan Republican at best.

dumfuqs evreewear Wrote:
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> ColumnNo.4 Wrote:
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> > Bernie Zehr Wrote:
> >
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> > -----
> > > I did not vote for Obama because I knew he
> was
> > a
> > > crooked lying Chicago politician. The starry
> > eyed
> > > fools who voted for him are too ignorant to
> > vote.
> >
> >
> > Or we voted for him because he was a better
> option
> > than bourgeois Romney.
>
> Why was a guy who was a community organizer with
> ZERO executive experience, never earned anything
> in life, was born with a silver spoon, went to the
> best private school in Hawaii, raised by a banking
> executive, has a reputation for lying his ass off,
> is a marxist a better choice?

I think we all know the answer and Progs won't admit it. They just can't accept there's a black man in the White House because they're racists.

I definitely think the fact that he is of colour enrages them more than if it were a white man doing the same thing.

On Prog voter voting habits:

I definitely think the fact that he is of colour enrages engages them more than if it were a white man doing the same thing.

There, fixed it for ya.

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> On Prog voter voting habits:
>
> I definitely think the fact that he is of colour
> enrages engages them more than if
> it were a white man doing the same thing.
>
> There, fixed it for ya.


Go ahead and deny it, not surprising.

ColumnNo.4 Wrote:
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> You're referring to Romney, right? The only
> person to be born with a silver spoon was Romney.
>
> The US is a country, not company.
>
> Romney is just as big of a liar.
>
> Obama is not a Marxist, not even close, he's a
> Reagan Republican at best.


So you're calling Obama a liar.

dbGYe Wrote:
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> ColumnNo.4 Wrote:
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> > You're referring to Romney, right? The only
> > person to be born with a silver spoon was
> Romney.
> >
> > The US is a country, not company.
> >
> > Romney is just as big of a liar.
> >
> > Obama is not a Marxist, not even close, he's a
> > Reagan Republican at best.
>
>
> So you're calling Obama a liar.

Careful. Any criticism of The Obamessiah is racism. You don't want that on you.

He has said he was going to do things he has yet to do and doesn't seem prioritised with getting done.

ColumnNo.4 Wrote:
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> Format fixer Wrote:
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> > On Prog voter voting habits:
> >
> > I definitely think the fact that he is of
> colour
> > enrages engages them more than
> if
> > it were a white man doing the same thing.
> >
> > There, fixed it for ya.
>
>
> Go ahead and deny it, not surprising.

Deny what? That many of the voters for Obama were motivated by his race? Not going to deny that. It's entirely true.

ColumnNo.4 Wrote:
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> Format fixer Wrote:
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> > On Prog voter voting habits:
> >
> > I definitely think the fact that he is of
> colour
> > enrages engages them more than
> if
> > it were a white man doing the same thing.
> >
> > There, fixed it for ya.
>
>
> Go ahead and deny it, not surprising.


Virtually nobody cares whether Obama is black. The guy's barely even black and puts little to no focus on being black in policy or any other way.

The problem that most have with him is he's just incompetent. And arrogantly so. As well as being a phony. As well as not taking responsibility for ANYTHING.

His race probably did draw some people to the polls however he didn't win solely due to his race.

He's apparently black enough for Republicans to claim him needing more rest, being lazy, quips about playing basketball, etc.

And how is he arrogantly incompetent?

Saying that people dislike him because he's black is their way of trying to disarm your argument against any true character flaws. That's why he's the perfect candidate, the perfect president in their eyes. They don't have to give a second's thought to any criticism because they can just dismiss it as grounded in racism.

It's not the critique but the manner in which he is critiqued. The vitriol in which the right speaks about him is the dead giveaway. He receives critique one different issues from different sides however the right is the only one that spits their critiques in such a vicious manner.

ColumnNo.4 Wrote:
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> I definitely think the fact that he is of colour
> enrages them more than if it were a white man
> doing the same thing.

That's 'cause deep, DEEP down inside every conserva-tard beats the heart of a bigoted racist hater.

Conserva-tards!

LoLz!

ColumnNo.4 Wrote:
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> His race probably did draw some people to the
> polls however he didn't win solely due to his
> race.
>
> He's apparently black enough for Republicans to
> claim him needing more rest, being lazy, quips
> about playing basketball, etc.
>
> And how is he arrogantly incompetent?


Largely so. A white guy with his quals saying exactly the same things wouldn't have even been in the mix. That's the fact. He rode on the wave of the possibility of being the first black President as Reid and Biden characterized him in their own ways as being an 'acceptable' black candidate versus those of the past like Jackson.

He was the one who referred to himself as being lazy. And he does like playing bball. That's not something that Republicans created. lol

Too many ways to even start to crawl down into your rabbit hole as far as being incompetent.

ColumnNo.4 Wrote:
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> It's not the critique but the manner in which he
> is critiqued. The vitriol in which the right
> speaks about him is the dead giveaway. He
> receives critique one different issues from
> different sides however the right is the only one
> that spits their critiques in such a vicious
> manner.

You're completely full of shit.

Just go back and look at the vitriol against Bush. Hell, you don't even have to go back it's still here. lol

Same applies for Clinton from the other side. Lots of people on the 'right' absolutely hated the guy. And he was in fact impeached as a result.

There have been white men with just as little qualification that have been elected to the office. What he rode was his message of changing the political animal into something more in touch with the common people. Whether he has done that or not is in question. I think not.

I have no issue with whatever sport a president plays. You can't deny the racial references from the right. I would find articles related if I weren't in class at the moment.

No more incompetent than Bush.

E9VXj Wrote:
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> ColumnNo.4 Wrote:
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> > It's not the critique but the manner in which
> he
> > is critiqued. The vitriol in which the right
> > speaks about him is the dead giveaway. He
> > receives critique one different issues from
> > different sides however the right is the only
> one
> > that spits their critiques in such a vicious
> > manner.
>
> You're completely full of shit.
>
> Just go back and look at the vitriol against Bush.
> Hell, you don't even have to go back it's still
> here. lol
>
> Same applies for Clinton from the other side.
> Lots of people on the 'right' absolutely hated the
> guy. And he was in fact impeached as a result.


Thread almost remained cordial.

The vitriol against Bush was pertaining to his lying to justify war, torture, etc. Acts that weren't only international crimes but were national crimes.

Clinton was disliked however I don't remember the attacks levied being as vicious as they are against Obama. Talk about Obama not closing Gitmo, talk about Obama perhaps not being tougher with Putin but fabricating bullshit and making racial references not only misdirects focus to bullshit but also undermines the political system.

ColumnNo.4 Wrote:
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> E9VXj Wrote:
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> > ColumnNo.4 Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > It's not the critique but the manner in which
> > he
> > > is critiqued. The vitriol in which the right
> > > speaks about him is the dead giveaway. He
> > > receives critique one different issues from
> > > different sides however the right is the only
> > one
> > > that spits their critiques in such a vicious
> > > manner.
> >
> > You're completely full of shit.
> >
> > Just go back and look at the vitriol against
> Bush.
> > Hell, you don't even have to go back it's
> still
> > here. lol
> >
> > Same applies for Clinton from the other side.
> > Lots of people on the 'right' absolutely hated
> the
> > guy. And he was in fact impeached as a result.
>
>
> Thread almost remained cordial.
>
> The vitriol against Bush was pertaining to his
> lying to justify war, torture, etc. Acts that
> weren't only international crimes but were
> national crimes.
>

As it is against Obama's lying, misuse of powers, etc., all having nothing to do with his race.


> Clinton was disliked however I don't remember the
> attacks levied being as vicious as they are
> against Obama. Talk about Obama not closing
> Gitmo, talk about Obama perhaps not being tougher
> with Putin but fabricating bullshit and making
> racial references not only misdirects focus to
> bullshit but also undermines the political system.


What were you, around 12 at the time? lol And what about he was impeached that don't you understand? I guess you don't recall the vast right-wing conspiracy either. Or all of the resistance to the healthcare debate at the time. Or the government shutdown and budget battles. Or Whitewater, Rose, rape allegations, the mysterious death conspiracies, Blackhawk, etc., etc.

977LM Wrote:
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> ColumnNo.4 Wrote:
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> > E9VXj Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > ColumnNo.4 Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > It's not the critique but the manner in
> which
> > > he
> > > > is critiqued. The vitriol in which the
> right
> > > > speaks about him is the dead giveaway. He
> > > > receives critique one different issues from
> > > > different sides however the right is the
> only
> > > one
> > > > that spits their critiques in such a
> vicious
> > > > manner.
> > >
> > > You're completely full of shit.
> > >
> > > Just go back and look at the vitriol against
> > Bush.
> > > Hell, you don't even have to go back it's
> > still
> > > here. lol
> > >
> > > Same applies for Clinton from the other side.
>
> > > Lots of people on the 'right' absolutely
> hated
> > the
> > > guy. And he was in fact impeached as a
> result.
> >
> >
> > Thread almost remained cordial.
> >
> > The vitriol against Bush was pertaining to his
> > lying to justify war, torture, etc. Acts that
> > weren't only international crimes but were
> > national crimes.
> >
>
> As it is against Obama's lying, misuse of powers,
> etc., all having nothing to do with his race.
>
>
> > Clinton was disliked however I don't remember
> the
> > attacks levied being as vicious as they are
> > against Obama. Talk about Obama not closing
> > Gitmo, talk about Obama perhaps not being
> tougher
> > with Putin but fabricating bullshit and making
> > racial references not only misdirects focus to
> > bullshit but also undermines the political
> system.
>
>
> What were you, around 12 at the time? lol And
> what about he was impeached that don't you
> understand? I guess you don't recall the vast
> right-wing conspiracy either. Or all of the
> resistance to the healthcare debate at the time.
> Or the government shutdown and budget battles. Or
> Whitewater, Rose, rape allegations, the mysterious
> death conspiracies, Blackhawk, etc., etc.

Exactly. Those who weren't there don't know. Republicans fucking tip toe around Obama when trying to offer up any criticism. With Bill Clinton you'd have thought there was a posse outside with a rope already strung up. Truth be told it was the same thing for Bush with the Democrats. But Obama's pretty much gotten a pass from Democrats and Republicans really haven't come out fighting.

Democrats are never racist
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I voted for Obama and he made me fucking rich!

MAKES SENSE! Wrote:
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> ANUTHA NIGARDLY BITCHASS NIGGA!! Wrote:
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> > Franco fucked up Wrote:
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> > > Okay, I'm a liberal. I really do want to see
> > > government used to help those who are at a
> > > disadvantage. But this fucking idiot is the
> > most
> > > worthless piece of shit president I have ever
> > > voted for.
> > >
> > > Yeah, I've had half a bottle of Grey Good
> > tonight
> > > because I had a really shitty day. I don't
> > > normally have even two drinks a week so it's
> > not
> > > like Im an alcoholic but I'm pretty damn
> buzzed
> > > right now.
> > >
> > > I've been hoping Obama would turn out okay
> but
> > > seriously, he is a train wreck. This doesn't
> > mean
> > > I'm going the other end of the spectrum and
> > > becoming an asshole republican that waont
> allow
> > > gay marriage or abortion and thinks eberyone
> is
> > a
> > > terrorist but I am SOOOOOOO fucking
> > disappointed
> > > in who I voted for president. He is fucking
> up
> > > healthcare (not that it wasnt fucked up on
> its
> > own
> > > already), he looks like a moron to foregin
> > > countries,. he stutters like a Downs Syndrome
> > > child and he is getting absolutely fucking
> > nothing
> > > done to improve this countries economy Okay,
> > fuck
> > > all of you time for another drink. Franco
> over
> > > and out.
> >
> >
> > Obama does not have any power over the House &
> > Senate with a Republican majority rule and
> > cross-dressing falsly proclaimed Dems voting
> with
> > them on legislation.
> > Wake up world. You MUST have a REAL Democratic
> > majority backing up a Dem President. You must
> > have the time to watch closely those who
> proclaim
> > they are Dems when thru action, they are not.
> > They are a living lie.
> > You MUST participate in all this FULLY. Vote
> for
> > the House (Congressional) and Senate seats when
> > they come up for office. Do the homework. And
> it
> > takes much more than just you. It has to be
> all
> > of those who voted for Obama NATIONWIDE.
> > DO THE MATH!
> > If everyone who keeps voting for Obama into
> office
> > would simply muster up and vote during every
> > political seat election in their
> municipality's,
> > we would easily have a full Democratic House &
> > Senate and things would be better for the
> majority
> > instead of the minority rich.
> > Wake up and SMELL THE COFFEE!
> > Obama is what is classically called a 'LAME
> DUCK
> > PRESIDENT'!
> > NOT because he is lame. But because the very
> ones
> > keeping him in office are politically lame!
> > Sorry. But it is the TRUTH!
>
>
> How true! Do the math! Voting for a Dem Prez and
> then leaving the House & Senate ruled by the
> greedy rich is LAME! AND IT IS THE PEOPLE LETTING
> IT HAPPEN!

You don't seem to understand that the vast majority of people want for there to be a balance against a President. Even in cases where a party may carry an initial election, that's typically corrected with the next Congressional election. As you saw in 2010. As you'll see in 2014.

He is a lame duck and always has been. Not because of an opposition party in Congress. That's a very common circumstance. But because of his own inexperience, extreme partisanship and continual campaign footing versus governing, and poor leadership abilities. He needs to be president of some advocacy foundation, not the country.

OBAMA IS A NIGGER! REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS, AND ESPECIALLY LIBTARDS WILL BURN IN HELL! ANARCHY IS UPON YOU! WERE COMING!

Franco fucked up Wrote:
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> Okay, I'm a liberal. I really do want to see
> government used to help those who are at a
> disadvantage. But this fucking idiot is the most
> worthless piece of shit president I have ever
> voted for.


This guy agrees with you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OhnQEP2Hl4

Affirmative Action or institutional racism doesn't work. It allows the least qualified person to get the job (Obama).

It destroys American competitiveness and brings the economy down for everyone. I didn't vote for Obama because I knew this would happen. Democracy only works if the electorate is educated and has a high enough IQ. Most people are morons and easily fooled.

Dear Franco,

Democrats formed the KKK. Democrats enforced the Jim Crow laws. Democrats filibustered the equal rights amendment. A Democrat segregated the military and civil service (Woodrow Wilson). Democrats are happy to kill babies. Over half of the babies killed are black. One of my Democrat friends was really proud of that fact. He said it kept them out of jail. (Murder will do that.)

I would be proud to be a Democrat. They believe in medical care for all, total gun registration, gun confiscation, and the rule of a central government over the populace. The Nazis believed all of these things too. This President has used the government against the people like Hitler. He has constantly lied to the people. He has aided and abetted the enemy in time of war (Bowe Bergdahl deserter trade).

He complained about the debt wrung up by President Bush and under his lead has doubled what Bush borrowed from the future. He is a failure of the nth degree. Anyone who voted for him is not smart enough to vote!

Nice shot Bernie.

Bernie Zehr Wrote:
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> Dear Franco,
>
> Democrats formed the KKK.

Dxiecrats. They & their progeny are now Conserva-tards.

> Democrats enforced the Jim Crow laws.

Dxiecrats. They & their progeny are now Conserva-tards.

> Democrats filibustered the equal rights amendment.

Dxiecrats. They & their progeny are now Conserva-tards.

> A Democrat segregated the military and civil service (Woodrow Wilson).

100 yaers ago. You're kidding, right? lol

> Democrats are happy to kill babies.

*Yawn*

> [Democrats] believe in medical care for all

Yes.

> total gun registration

Yes.

> gun confiscation

No. Please cite one instance in the modern era when guns have been confiscated.

> This President has used the government against the people like Hitler.

Yes. Kaddafi was like Hitler. Assad is like Hitler.

> He has aided and abetted the enemy in time of war (Bowe Bergdahl deserter trade).

*Yawn*

> He complained about the debt wrung up by President
> Bush and under his lead has doubled what Bush
> borrowed from the future.

Yes, to fix Bush's mess. What say we raise taxes to pay off the debt?

> Anyone who voted for him is not smart enough to vote!

Universal suffrage, Baby!


Conserva-tards!

LoLz!

No answer for Obozo doubling the debt. Quit now.

Retardarama Wrote:
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> No answer for Obozo doubling the debt.

Bush doubled it, too.

Madam President Clinton will double the debt yet again (over two terms).

The reality is that taxes are too low.

Conserva-tards!

LoLz!

unsustainable Wrote:
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> You can try to deflect all you want. You can try
> to continue to blame Bush. You can even make fun
> of Romney (though he isn't even in the picture at
> this point). You can try to blame Republicans for
> hating women. You can put up all the birth control
> smokecreens in the world.
>
> BUT...
>
> The bottom line is that you voted for a socialist
> unqualified black guy for no other reasons beyond
> his color and party affiliation. The irreparable
> damage he has done to the US is all on you. But,
> but, but...Bush lied. What fucking ever. It's not
> been Bush's fault for a long time.
>
> That's the fucking truth.


I'm with ya bro .. preach on. I pray that Obama sees the light. He's got to be the worst president ever elected.

The Obama presidency has been a resounding success!

Thank You, Mr. President, for your service to our great nation!

Bama hoodwinked the US.
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Conserva-tards! Wrote:
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> > No answer for Obozo doubling the debt.
>
> Bush doubled it, too.
>
> Madam President Clinton will double the debt yet
> again (over two terms).
>
> The reality is that taxes are too low.
>
> Conserva-tards!
>
> LoLz!

Are you really that stupid or do you just hate everything about America?

Conserva-tards! Wrote:
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> Retardarama Wrote:
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> > No answer for Obozo doubling the debt.
>
> Bush doubled it, too.
>
> Madam President Clinton will double the debt yet
> again (over two terms).
>
> The reality is that taxes are too low.
>
> Conserva-tards!
>
> LoLz!
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> Are you really that stupid or do you just hate
> everything about America?

Que?

Conserva-tards!

LoLz!

coming from some asshole republican, we don't want your vote any way, you sound like the crying little bitch that the bully won't give his football back too, you say you won't cross over to the other side, who the hell you gonna vote for, all you knob suckers care about is gay rights and stupid shit, what about Isis and the goat fucking Jihadist, you will be the first one to open the door and get butt screwed like a goat when the jihad knocks on your politically correct fucking front door

ya you fucken liberal retards are always scared of the real truth, believing in bullshit fairy tales the left feeds you but never delivers. And Abortion, are you fucken insane? Do you have any idea the kinds of emotional problems women who kill their babies end up with... of course you don't cause you are little pussy ass baby killin God hating idiots who are scared of the REAL truth. Keep hating you little bitches. I live in salem oregon, come and get me you fucken pussies!!

Urine idiot Wrote:
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> > Retardarama Wrote:
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> > -----
> > > No answer for Obozo doubling the debt.
> >
> > Bush doubled it, too.
> >
> > Madam President Clinton will double the debt
> yet
> > again (over two terms).
> >
> > The reality is that taxes are too low.
> >
> > Conserva-tards!
> >
> > LoLz!
>
> Are you really that stupid or do you just hate
> everything about America?


Really is that stupid. Posting history is proof. Former name fat bottom girl. Chances are she means taxes are too low on other people. Most assuredly does not pay taxes herself.



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