Well, tecnically, Maryland, but if we're talking about the Old Confederate states, then it is Virginia.

Its odd that people move here expecting us to be so Southern. The only Southern state less Southern than Virginia is Florida. People need to get over the past and move on. Northern Virginia well represents the spirit of The New South. Its bigger and better, and better educated, and doesn't care about waving the Rebel flag all over the place. I'm so glad that we are not the backwater we used to be.. Well, except for Manassas.

Virginia is southern, its just that northern VA isnt. Drive 45 minutes south or basically anywhere else in the state and youre in the south.

Liberal Logic 15 Wrote:
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> Virginia is southern, its just that northern VA
> isnt. Drive 45 minutes south or basically
> anywhere else in the state and youre in the south.


Northern Virginia is just strip malls and suburbia. Its not like its really "Northern" either.

History101 Wrote:
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> Well, tecnically, Maryland, but if we're talking
> about the Old Confederate states, then it is
> Virginia.
>
> Its odd that people move here expecting us to be
> so Southern. The only Southern state less Southern
> than Virginia is Florida. People need to get over
> the past and move on. Northern Virginia well
> represents the spirit of The New South. Its bigger
> and better, and better educated, and doesn't care
> about waving the Rebel flag all over the place.
> I'm so glad that we are not the backwater we used
> to be.. Well, except for Manassas.


Out of curiosity, how long have you lived here?

This thread reminds me that President John F Kennedy once said, "Washington is a city of Southern efficiency and Northern charm."

NOVAlivin Wrote:
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> Liberal Logic 15 Wrote:
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> > Virginia is southern, its just that northern VA
> > isnt. Drive 45 minutes south or basically
> > anywhere else in the state and youre in the
> south.
>
>
> Northern Virginia is just strip malls and
> suburbia. Its not like its really "Northern"
> either.

Its more northern than southern but it is kind of a weird area of just a bunch of asses in one place.

Northern Virginia is not the new south, its the south being overtaken by sanity.

I dunno -- have you ever been to southern Indiana? That is way south..

>Well, tecnically, Maryland, but if we're talking about the Old Confederate states, then it is Virginia.

More technically, it's actually West Virginia. Let me 'splain. What is now WV was at the time of the Civil War part of Virginia. After Virginia seceded, the western part of the state voted to secede from Virginia. Bit less than 2 years later, they were admitted to the Union, but since WV has that bit that sticks out at the top, for a while there there were rebels living almost as far north as New York City.

Define "south" Is it a time? A place? A history? A political division? A bunch of rednecks still flying the stars and bars?

I'm in south Reston, yo.

wnrsm Wrote:
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> Define "south" Is it a time? A place? A
> history? A political division? A bunch of
> rednecks still flying the stars and bars?
>
> I'm in south Reston, yo.

Simple. The South is anything below the "sweet Tea line". There is no better cultural demarcation.

do these guys live across the street from wegmans?
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The South Wrote:
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> do these guys live across the street from wegmans?


Thats not Southern. You can find people like that in Illinois or Upstate New York, or New England even. Thats Yankee.

wnrsm Wrote:
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> Define "south" Is it a time? A place? A
> history? A political division? A bunch of
> rednecks still flying the stars and bars?
>
> I'm in south Reston, yo.


Southern is where people are friendlier, the women are better looking, the iced tea is sweet, and things are in general just more relaxed and genteel way of life. Not pushy and arrogant, and people say hello and not just give you a blank stare.

The South actually has a Caste system. Probably the last place in America or the New World to do so. But its very classist.

This is Southern Proper:





Good 'ol boy/Gal-Middle Class Southern





This is Country/Redneck



Note the difference?

SouthMouth Wrote:
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> The South actually has a Caste system. Probably
> the last place in America or the New World to do
> so. But its very classist.

Not place is more classist than New England, or NYC, or DC.

Liberal Logic 15 Wrote:
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> SouthMouth Wrote:
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> > The South actually has a Caste system. Probably
> > the last place in America or the New World to
> do
> > so. But its very classist.
>
> Not place is more classist than New England, or
> NYC, or DC.


Not , really. In the North working class people and Rich people seem to intermingle more, but in the South its not the same. The North favors "self made" men, who make money from industry and enterprise, while the South is most strictly "old money" and the same family runs the same town for years on end, pretty much since the plantation days. Hasn't really changed.