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Stop Dangerous ID Rally
Posted by:
Rod
()
Date: January 07, 2009 09:36PM
Stop Dangerous ID Rally
in support of legislation to stop the implementation of Dangerous ID, the so-called Real ID Act of 2005.
January 21, 2009, at 1:00 pm
Virginia State Capital Bell Tower
910 Capital Street
Richmond, VA 23114
At least two pieces of legislation are being introduced
by Delegate Bob Marshall and Senator Ken Cuccinelli in the 2009 Session of the Virginia General Assembly to stop the implementation of the federal mandate to come into compliance with the Real ID Act by the beginning of next year.
Similar legislation went no where last year but lobbying efforts will gain momentum as grassroots organizations
take the news of the bills to the districts across the state. We are certain to shake things up in local politics with upcoming state elections on the horizon.
Leaders of the opposition consider the "REAL ID Act of
2005" to be a bad law passed under false pretenses. It
was rejected three separate times by the U.S. Senate, and was only passed because it was buried in a larger bill containing disaster relief and funding for Iraq military operations. The Senate didn't want it, and the American people don't want it either. But the majority leadership
in Congress imposed it on us, and so now we have to fight
to get it stopped in Virginia.
Opponents fear the creation of a centralized federal database containing personal information about all Americans. Decisions about the exact nature and scope of this program will be made by Homeland Security bureaucrats in the Executive Branch. It seems inevitable that biometric information and electronic tracking tags will be included
at some point. No one intends a bad use for this system today, but it is inevitable that it will be used in bad
ways in the future.
There are valid concerns with regard to security of the citizen’s personal information due to the number of databases that would be storing personal information by the federal government and shared between the states across the country as part of standard procedure within Motor Vehicle Administrations in the states, and as enabled by the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators. Neither the Federal Government nor the states can control access, which under International law includes data sharing even with Canada and Mexico. No one can know who is getting into those data bases and for what purpose.
According to the DHS, "Real ID is a nationwide effort intended to prevent terrorism, reduce fraud, and improve
the reliability and accuracy of identification documents that State governments issue." Yet it does nothing to prevent terrorists and other criminals from fraudulently obtaining a "Real ID" by forging the required documents.
In fact, with multiple on-line, federated databases shared across multiple organizations and federal and state agencies, it will become much easier.
Many good arguments can be made against this Dangerous ID, but they all reduce to one overpowering truth. The more information government has the less it seems to know. The more power government has the less it seems able to accomplish. Big Government doesn't work. The federal government needs to do less in order to accomplish more. Small government is focused government. We need smaller government, not a massive new federal identification system.
Please plan to attend and tell your Virginia legislators to stand up to Congress and Homeland Security to keep federal bureaucrats from hijacking your state driver’s license for their national citizen control scheme. Your participation is vital to the success in getting legislation passed to nix the federal invasion of our 4th and 10th amendment rights.
Please email your RSVP to me at president@valibertydefense.org.
For liberty,
Donna Holt
--
Donna Holt
President, VA Liberty Defense
www.valibertydefense.org
in support of legislation to stop the implementation of Dangerous ID, the so-called Real ID Act of 2005.
January 21, 2009, at 1:00 pm
Virginia State Capital Bell Tower
910 Capital Street
Richmond, VA 23114
At least two pieces of legislation are being introduced
by Delegate Bob Marshall and Senator Ken Cuccinelli in the 2009 Session of the Virginia General Assembly to stop the implementation of the federal mandate to come into compliance with the Real ID Act by the beginning of next year.
Similar legislation went no where last year but lobbying efforts will gain momentum as grassroots organizations
take the news of the bills to the districts across the state. We are certain to shake things up in local politics with upcoming state elections on the horizon.
Leaders of the opposition consider the "REAL ID Act of
2005" to be a bad law passed under false pretenses. It
was rejected three separate times by the U.S. Senate, and was only passed because it was buried in a larger bill containing disaster relief and funding for Iraq military operations. The Senate didn't want it, and the American people don't want it either. But the majority leadership
in Congress imposed it on us, and so now we have to fight
to get it stopped in Virginia.
Opponents fear the creation of a centralized federal database containing personal information about all Americans. Decisions about the exact nature and scope of this program will be made by Homeland Security bureaucrats in the Executive Branch. It seems inevitable that biometric information and electronic tracking tags will be included
at some point. No one intends a bad use for this system today, but it is inevitable that it will be used in bad
ways in the future.
There are valid concerns with regard to security of the citizen’s personal information due to the number of databases that would be storing personal information by the federal government and shared between the states across the country as part of standard procedure within Motor Vehicle Administrations in the states, and as enabled by the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators. Neither the Federal Government nor the states can control access, which under International law includes data sharing even with Canada and Mexico. No one can know who is getting into those data bases and for what purpose.
According to the DHS, "Real ID is a nationwide effort intended to prevent terrorism, reduce fraud, and improve
the reliability and accuracy of identification documents that State governments issue." Yet it does nothing to prevent terrorists and other criminals from fraudulently obtaining a "Real ID" by forging the required documents.
In fact, with multiple on-line, federated databases shared across multiple organizations and federal and state agencies, it will become much easier.
Many good arguments can be made against this Dangerous ID, but they all reduce to one overpowering truth. The more information government has the less it seems to know. The more power government has the less it seems able to accomplish. Big Government doesn't work. The federal government needs to do less in order to accomplish more. Small government is focused government. We need smaller government, not a massive new federal identification system.
Please plan to attend and tell your Virginia legislators to stand up to Congress and Homeland Security to keep federal bureaucrats from hijacking your state driver’s license for their national citizen control scheme. Your participation is vital to the success in getting legislation passed to nix the federal invasion of our 4th and 10th amendment rights.
Please email your RSVP to me at president@valibertydefense.org.
For liberty,
Donna Holt
--
Donna Holt
President, VA Liberty Defense
www.valibertydefense.org
Re: Stop Dangerous ID Rally
Posted by:
Rod
()
Date: January 07, 2009 09:37PM
Let's all get together and ride down
Re: Stop Dangerous ID Rally
Posted by:
SRE
()
Date: January 07, 2009 09:52PM
YEA!!!!
Rod is back with the same agenda he has brought numerous times over the past years!
It wouldn't be 2009 without this thread!
YEA!!!!
Rod is back with the same agenda he has brought numerous times over the past years!
It wouldn't be 2009 without this thread!
YEA!!!!
Re: Stop Dangerous ID Rally
Posted by:
496
()
Date: January 07, 2009 10:02PM
Hey pyscho, maybe you can bum a ride with Spunky.
Re: Stop Dangerous ID Rally
Posted by:
Rod
()
Date: January 08, 2009 12:41AM
From: VA Liberty Defense - Donna Holt, President - www.valibertydefense.org - president@valibertydefense.org
Event: Press Conference & Rally in support of Stop Real ID Legislation in Virginia, 1:00pm, Wednesday, Jan. 21, 2009, Virginia State Capital Bell Tower, 910 Capital Street, Richmond, VA 23219.
Press Release: Va Liberty Defense in coalition with 10 other organizations will rally in support of House and Senate Bills to stop the implementation of Dangerous ID, the so-called Real ID scam, in Virginia.
Master of Ceremonies:
Pastor Aaron Bolinger - Legislative Director, National Veterans Committee on Constitutional Affairs and Restore the Republic
Keynote Speakers:
Delegate Bob Marshall - 13th District
Senator Ken Cuccinelli - 37th District
Other Confirmed speakers:
Donna Holt - President, VA Liberty Defense
Mike McHugh - President, Virginia Gun Owners Coalition
John Tate - President, Campaign for Liberty
Philip Van Cleave - President, Virginia Citizens Defense League
Herb Lux - American Patriots Committee
Larry Pratt - Executive Director, Gun Owners of America
Jim Capo - State Coordinator, John Birch Society
Hope Amezquita - American Civil Liberties Union
Reid Gunman and Terri Kurowski - Tidewater Libertarian Party
News Release: Prepared by Donna Holt, President of Va Liberty Defense
VA Liberty Defense will lead the fight in Virginia prohibiting the compliance of the unfunded, federally mandated "Real ID Act of 2005", renamed "Dangerous ID" by Virginia activists.
The Department of Homeland Security has estimated the cost to the states to be $23.1 billion to implement this act. States will be forced to spend billions more to implement a driver’s license mandate that threatens unacceptable privacy and civil rights violations.
At least three pieces of legislation are being introduced in the 2009 Session of the Virginia General Assembly to stop the implementation of the federal mandate to come into compliance with the Real ID Act by the beginning of next year.
Similar legislation went no where last year but lobbying efforts will gain momentum as grassroots organizations take the news of the bills to the districts across the state. They are certain to shake things up in local politics with upcoming state elections on the horizon.
Twenty-one (21) states are engaged in an all-out revolt against Real ID and have enacted state legislative measures to prohibit or severely curtail any participation by their respective states in the program. As both an “unfunded mandate” from Washington, and one that threatens both religious and civil liberties, a massive coalition has been built across America in outrage. Theological opponents run the full gamut – from Mennonites to Jews to Catholic to Protestant faith models. Technology-centric opponents include the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Civil Rights groups like the American Civil Liberties Union, assorted veterans activists, and the League of the South are all in accord against this National ID program.
Leaders of the opposition consider the "REAL ID Act of 2005" to be a bad law passed under false pretenses. It was rejected three separate times by the U.S. Senate, and was only passed because it was buried in a larger bill containing disaster relief and funding for Iraq military operations. The Senate didn't want it, and the American people don't want it either. But the majority leadership in Congress imposed it on us, and so now we have to fight to stop implementation in Virginia.
Opponents fear the creation of a centralized federal database containing personal information about all Americans. Decisions about the exact nature and scope of this program will be made by Homeland Security bureaucrats in the Executive Branch. It seems inevitable that biometric information and electronic tracking tags will be included at some point. No one intends a bad use for this system today, but it is inevitable that it will be used in bad ways in the future.
There are valid concerns with regard to security of the citizen’s personal information due to the number of databases that would be storing personal information by the federal government and shared between the states across the country as part of standard procedure within Motor Vehicle Administrations in the states, and as enabled by the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators. Neither the Federal Government nor the states can control access, which under International law includes data sharing even with Canada and Mexico. No one can know who is getting into those data bases and for what purpose.
Case in point: At least four State Department workers pried into the supposedly secure passport files of presidential contenders Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barack Obama and John McCain. Those intent on obtaining sensitive personal information for their own criminal personal gain will have no problem breeching those databases. Databases are attacked frequently by criminals causing a devastating impact on the security of the personal information of all citizens.
There have been recent reports of the cloning of passports using the same RFID chip technology that were originally proposed for use in driver's licenses as part of the compliance with the "Real ID Act of 2005". This technology poses a real threat of identity theft and would likely be required down the road.
According to the DHS, "Real ID is a nationwide effort intended to prevent terrorism, reduce fraud, and improve the reliability and accuracy of identification documents that State governments issue." Yet it does nothing to prevent terrorists and other criminals from fraudulently obtaining a "Real ID" by forging the required documents. In fact, with multiple on-line, federated databases shared across multiple organizations and federal and state agencies, it will become much easier.
Many good arguments can be made against this Dangerous ID, but they all reduce to one overpowering truth. The more information government has the less it seems to know. The more power government has the less it seems able to accomplish. Big Government doesn't work. The federal government needs to do less in order to accomplish more. Small government is focused government. We need smaller government, not a massive new federal identification system.
It is our mission to urge our Virginia legislators to stand up to Congress and Homeland Security to keep federal bureaucrats from hijacking our state driver’s license for their national citizen control scheme.
Event: Press Conference & Rally in support of Stop Real ID Legislation in Virginia, 1:00pm, Wednesday, Jan. 21, 2009, Virginia State Capital Bell Tower, 910 Capital Street, Richmond, VA 23219.
Press Release: Va Liberty Defense in coalition with 10 other organizations will rally in support of House and Senate Bills to stop the implementation of Dangerous ID, the so-called Real ID scam, in Virginia.
Master of Ceremonies:
Pastor Aaron Bolinger - Legislative Director, National Veterans Committee on Constitutional Affairs and Restore the Republic
Keynote Speakers:
Delegate Bob Marshall - 13th District
Senator Ken Cuccinelli - 37th District
Other Confirmed speakers:
Donna Holt - President, VA Liberty Defense
Mike McHugh - President, Virginia Gun Owners Coalition
John Tate - President, Campaign for Liberty
Philip Van Cleave - President, Virginia Citizens Defense League
Herb Lux - American Patriots Committee
Larry Pratt - Executive Director, Gun Owners of America
Jim Capo - State Coordinator, John Birch Society
Hope Amezquita - American Civil Liberties Union
Reid Gunman and Terri Kurowski - Tidewater Libertarian Party
News Release: Prepared by Donna Holt, President of Va Liberty Defense
VA Liberty Defense will lead the fight in Virginia prohibiting the compliance of the unfunded, federally mandated "Real ID Act of 2005", renamed "Dangerous ID" by Virginia activists.
The Department of Homeland Security has estimated the cost to the states to be $23.1 billion to implement this act. States will be forced to spend billions more to implement a driver’s license mandate that threatens unacceptable privacy and civil rights violations.
At least three pieces of legislation are being introduced in the 2009 Session of the Virginia General Assembly to stop the implementation of the federal mandate to come into compliance with the Real ID Act by the beginning of next year.
Similar legislation went no where last year but lobbying efforts will gain momentum as grassroots organizations take the news of the bills to the districts across the state. They are certain to shake things up in local politics with upcoming state elections on the horizon.
Twenty-one (21) states are engaged in an all-out revolt against Real ID and have enacted state legislative measures to prohibit or severely curtail any participation by their respective states in the program. As both an “unfunded mandate” from Washington, and one that threatens both religious and civil liberties, a massive coalition has been built across America in outrage. Theological opponents run the full gamut – from Mennonites to Jews to Catholic to Protestant faith models. Technology-centric opponents include the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Civil Rights groups like the American Civil Liberties Union, assorted veterans activists, and the League of the South are all in accord against this National ID program.
Leaders of the opposition consider the "REAL ID Act of 2005" to be a bad law passed under false pretenses. It was rejected three separate times by the U.S. Senate, and was only passed because it was buried in a larger bill containing disaster relief and funding for Iraq military operations. The Senate didn't want it, and the American people don't want it either. But the majority leadership in Congress imposed it on us, and so now we have to fight to stop implementation in Virginia.
Opponents fear the creation of a centralized federal database containing personal information about all Americans. Decisions about the exact nature and scope of this program will be made by Homeland Security bureaucrats in the Executive Branch. It seems inevitable that biometric information and electronic tracking tags will be included at some point. No one intends a bad use for this system today, but it is inevitable that it will be used in bad ways in the future.
There are valid concerns with regard to security of the citizen’s personal information due to the number of databases that would be storing personal information by the federal government and shared between the states across the country as part of standard procedure within Motor Vehicle Administrations in the states, and as enabled by the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators. Neither the Federal Government nor the states can control access, which under International law includes data sharing even with Canada and Mexico. No one can know who is getting into those data bases and for what purpose.
Case in point: At least four State Department workers pried into the supposedly secure passport files of presidential contenders Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barack Obama and John McCain. Those intent on obtaining sensitive personal information for their own criminal personal gain will have no problem breeching those databases. Databases are attacked frequently by criminals causing a devastating impact on the security of the personal information of all citizens.
There have been recent reports of the cloning of passports using the same RFID chip technology that were originally proposed for use in driver's licenses as part of the compliance with the "Real ID Act of 2005". This technology poses a real threat of identity theft and would likely be required down the road.
According to the DHS, "Real ID is a nationwide effort intended to prevent terrorism, reduce fraud, and improve the reliability and accuracy of identification documents that State governments issue." Yet it does nothing to prevent terrorists and other criminals from fraudulently obtaining a "Real ID" by forging the required documents. In fact, with multiple on-line, federated databases shared across multiple organizations and federal and state agencies, it will become much easier.
Many good arguments can be made against this Dangerous ID, but they all reduce to one overpowering truth. The more information government has the less it seems to know. The more power government has the less it seems able to accomplish. Big Government doesn't work. The federal government needs to do less in order to accomplish more. Small government is focused government. We need smaller government, not a massive new federal identification system.
It is our mission to urge our Virginia legislators to stand up to Congress and Homeland Security to keep federal bureaucrats from hijacking our state driver’s license for their national citizen control scheme.
Re: Stop Dangerous ID Rally
Posted by:
Gravis
()
Date: January 08, 2009 03:34AM
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
Re: Stop Dangerous ID Rally
Posted by:
jhey
()
Date: January 08, 2009 09:00AM
Rod Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Stop Dangerous ID Rally
> in support of legislation to stop the
> implementation of Dangerous ID, the so-called Real
> ID Act of 2005.
>
> January 21, 2009, at 1:00 pm
>
> Virginia State Capital Bell Tower
> 910 Capital Street
> Richmond, VA 23114
>
Will Meade Skelton be performing?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Stop Dangerous ID Rally
> in support of legislation to stop the
> implementation of Dangerous ID, the so-called Real
> ID Act of 2005.
>
> January 21, 2009, at 1:00 pm
>
> Virginia State Capital Bell Tower
> 910 Capital Street
> Richmond, VA 23114
>
Will Meade Skelton be performing?
Re: Stop Dangerous ID Rally
Posted by:
WashingTone Locian
()
Date: January 08, 2009 09:40AM
I'm confused. Are you trying to stop the Dangerous ID or the Dangerous ID Rally?