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Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 18, 2013 01:25PM

Oh boy, here we go.



http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Police-Intruder-Killed-by-Sterling-Homeowner-198674301.html



Grief counselors were on hand at a Sterling, Va., high school Monday after a student at the school was fatally shot after entering a neighbor's home over the weekend.

"I didn't really want to go to school," said a friend and classmate of the deceased teen. "It was hard to get out of bed, just knowing that he got shot... I'll love him forever. We acted like we were brothers."

The student -- who hasn't been publicly identified by police yet -- was killed after entering a home in the 45900 block of Pullman Court two doors down from his at approximately 2:30 a.m. Sunday.

The homeowner called 911 to report an intruder. By the time authorities arrived, the intruder had been shot dead, reported News4's Darcy Spencer.

Neighbors said the homeowner is a firefighter and called him a good man who helped others.

Students at Park View High School said the teen was a junior who was a popular athlete and budding rapper.

"If you had classes with him, there was no way you weren't leaving that class without a smile," said a classmate.

Friends said the teen may have accidentally gone into the wrong house.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 18, 2013 01:27PM

So the teen entered the wrong home, the homeowner called 911 because of an intruder. Surely the teen (if he was doing nothing wrong) would have left without incident when he realized he went into the wrong house.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 18, 2013 01:28PM

the teen was a junior who was a popular athlete and budding rapper.




LOL

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: friskydingo ()
Date: March 18, 2013 01:31PM

How do you accidentally go into the wrong home as the article puts it?

On the other hand, who just blows away an unarmed kid. Pretty irresponsible.

Maybe the homeowner and the kid got into a struggle?

 

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 18, 2013 01:31PM

We don't know what happened between the 911 call and the shooting.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: friskydingo ()
Date: March 18, 2013 01:32PM

Yea

 

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: friskydingo ()
Date: March 18, 2013 01:33PM

You should always stay on the line with 911 till the authorities arrive, those tapes could save your ass in a trial.

 

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: 9uhyy ()
Date: March 18, 2013 01:48PM

more like oscar pistorious

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: itchy ()
Date: March 18, 2013 01:49PM

Hopefully it was a black man shooting a white kid this time so that the media wont be headlining this story over the next year.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 18, 2013 01:50PM

It was a firefighter shooting a black kid.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: itchy ()
Date: March 18, 2013 01:52PM

eesh Wrote:
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> It was a firefighter shooting a black kid.


Damnit

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Ralph Pootawn ()
Date: March 18, 2013 02:08PM

If I caught anyone climbing in one of my windows at 2:30am, I'd shoot too.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Trayvon 2.0 ()
Date: March 18, 2013 03:26PM

WORM FOOD




Shouldnt have been breakin and enterin, good riddance.

WORM FOOD 2013

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Lizzies White Neighbor ()
Date: March 18, 2013 03:42PM

Trayvon 2.0 Wrote:
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> WORM FOOD
>
>
>
>
> Shouldnt have been breakin and enterin, good
> riddance.
>
> WORM FOOD 2013



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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Blowtorch999 ()
Date: March 18, 2013 03:54PM

They are always a popular athlete and a "budding rapper" (whatever that is) right before they commit a crime. The really amusing part of this is they are trying to say he thought he was at his own house. How many people enter their own house thru a window?

Just another dead nigger.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: CbDDt ()
Date: March 18, 2013 04:51PM

Read some of the comments. Unreal. He was innocent, he was at a party drinking ect ect Preaching it was one big mistake. This is after he climbs through a window, alarm goes off and the homeowner allegedly fires a warning shot.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: March 18, 2013 05:27PM

In the shooters favor-

Deceased entered thru a rear window...

Shooter called 911.

Not in the shooters favor-

The kid was young, black and the mood of the media and country wants to blame guns for everything.

Sorry parents, but you fed the worms.


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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: He's A Kid ()
Date: March 18, 2013 05:31PM

When you're young and stupid, you do stupid things. This kid may have intentionally entered a neighbor's house after a night of drinking, but he still didn't deserve to get blown away by a trigger happy gun owner. The guy should have waited for the police.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: UcGMK ()
Date: March 18, 2013 05:37PM

ok troll. Feel free to try again

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: March 18, 2013 05:40PM

He's A Kid Wrote:
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> When you're young and stupid, you do stupid
> things. This kid may have intentionally entered a
> neighbor's house after a night of drinking, but he
> still didn't deserve to get blown away by a
> trigger happy gun owner. The guy should have
> waited for the police.


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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: ex-Lester ()
Date: March 18, 2013 05:41PM

The homeowner shot the kid as he was going up the stairs toward him. No indication that the lights were on or off.

So, he got drunk and his parents locked him out. Rather than ring the doorbell, he decided to break back into his home, inadvertently costing him his life.

http://leesburg.patch.com/articles/weekend-shooting-victim-was-park-view-student

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: school friend ()
Date: March 18, 2013 05:43PM

friskydingo Wrote:
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> How do you accidentally go into the wrong home as
> the article puts it?

He was getting his drink on.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: cPHeF ()
Date: March 18, 2013 05:50PM

ex-Lester Wrote:
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> The homeowner shot the kid as he was going up the
> stairs toward him. No indication that the lights
> were on or off.
>
> So, he got drunk and his parents locked him out.
> Rather than ring the doorbell, he decided to break
> back into his home, inadvertently costing him his
> life.
>
> http://leesburg.patch.com/articles/weekend-shootin
> g-victim-was-park-view-student


so sad too bad

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Young Curmudgeon ()
Date: March 18, 2013 05:56PM

Nobody entering his house goes through the window. The homeowner was justified. Now we'll have to be subjected to four months of this crap from Nancy Grace and the liberal wackos in the media.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: HOA hater ()
Date: March 18, 2013 05:58PM

I bleme the HOA for making all the homes look the same in a neighborhood.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: itchy ()
Date: March 18, 2013 06:01PM

I wonder if he was wearing a hoodie.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Yup Yup ()
Date: March 18, 2013 06:06PM

Pass the Skittles and Taste the Rainbow of buckshot!

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: ex-Lester ()
Date: March 18, 2013 06:09PM

He probably just wants to crawl into bed and wasn't listening to anything anyone said, including someone with a gun.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: March 18, 2013 06:19PM

House was 2 doors down.

But the good news- it's all candle light vigils and grief counselors at the local HS.


Let freedom ring.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Blowtorch999 ()
Date: March 18, 2013 06:25PM

He's A Kid Wrote:
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> When you're young and stupid, you do stupid
> things. This kid may have intentionally entered a
> neighbor's house after a night of drinking, but he
> still didn't deserve to get blown away by a
> trigger happy gun owner. The guy should have
> waited for the police.

Waiting for the police is how a lot of people end up dead.

You climb thru my window and 2:30 am you are going to get shot. I might call the cops afterwards. And I dont care if you are black, white, yellow or candy striped, you have no business climbing thur my window. Get it?

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: 7L7Ep ()
Date: March 18, 2013 06:29PM

I find it plausable he was wasted drunk without the intent to rob the guy. Kid screwed up and now he is dead. You just cant go breaking into peoples houses regardless of the circumstance or mindset. I feel bad for the guy that shot him and your house is your castle. Furthermore I dont care how old he was, 16 or 60 this is what happens when you willingly go through somones window, set off the alarm then proceed to make your way upstairs. I would have done the exact same thing. Unfortunatly now the guy is going to have to move due to someone elses error.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: ex-Lester ()
Date: March 18, 2013 06:29PM

The local news showed the father go up to the homeowner to confront him over the killing. They didn't play the audio.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: should have ()
Date: March 18, 2013 06:32PM

Only if he listened to Biden. There would only be a hole in his ceiling and possibly roof. SEND HIM TO PRISON!!

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: At least ()
Date: March 18, 2013 07:15PM

At least the dad wasn't drunk.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 18, 2013 07:23PM

The worst part is that the firefighter will probably be run out of the neighborhood. I'm sure there will be all sorts of protests in front of his house.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: March 18, 2013 07:28PM

The little HS fucks love this kind of shit, a big chance to appear politically enlightened and maybe skip a day of school for some retarded little tribute.

They need to bring some real prick law enforcement types and stress the alcohol part of this dummies death.


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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: March 18, 2013 07:39PM

Just watched another vid about this, the two houses have another house between them and they are mirrored- one has garage and dormers on left, other on right.


Get us the BAC and tell us if he was shot in the back. As for now, I'm leaning way towards the homeowner.


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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 18, 2013 07:46PM

Maybe drugs will be found in his system...

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: jerkys ()
Date: March 18, 2013 07:51PM

it dont matter if drugs or beer wus found in his sytem. Crazy gun owner shot a oinnocent well liked kid. U all should bee ashamed and ask god for forgiveness. U all have upset me now im crying thanks.....

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 18, 2013 07:55PM

So what qualifies someone to be a budding rapper?

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: March 18, 2013 07:57PM

A friend of mine was out in Vegas last month when this "budding rapper" bit the dust.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CIpf2cBFHE


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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Blowtorch999 ()
Date: March 18, 2013 07:57PM

A 16 year old out drinking at 2am? Obviously from a dysfunctional family and home. But Im sure the parents are going to blame everyone but themselves for letting their "budding rapper" run the streets at night drunk and so fucked up he cant even find his own house. The level of stupidity is epic!

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 18, 2013 07:58PM

Hopefully the firefighter's employment won't be affected by any of this.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Rolling and Trolling ()
Date: March 18, 2013 08:01PM

jerkys Wrote:
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> it dont matter if drugs or beer wus found in his
> sytem. Crazy gun owner shot a oinnocent well liked
> kid. U all should bee ashamed and ask god for
> forgiveness. U all have upset me now im crying
> thanks.....

Well trolled, but how would it look if the kid was a violent intruder and murdered the homeowner? There's really only two things that happen at 0230: making a life or taking a life. You break into my house at 0230, you best be wearing some Kevlar, 'cause we ain't fucking.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Robert A. Booie ()
Date: March 18, 2013 08:10PM

A review from a former GF on "dating psychos.com". Donald West Wilder II (is the shooter and sounds like he is a frequent poster here)

From the review..." Unfortunately, the woman who profiled him on dontdatehimgirl.com did not list his age, so I had to guess an age for him and if I guessed it wrong I hope she sees this to tell us his true age, in case I guessed wrong. He might be years older or younger than what I guessed. I am not sure if this profile is still on DDHG but it was at one point. :

“is a closeted kinky cross-dresser. He’s a volunteer fire fighter with the Sterling Volunteer Fire Department, so he has to be strong enough to pull people from burning buildings. During the course of our relationship, I was forced to engage in the most disgusting (IMO) sexual acts. One night, tied me up, blindfolded me, gagged me, attached a dildo to the gag and made me penetrate his anus with my mouth. He would often wear women’s clothes to bed. I fear for the safety of my child. He knowingly potentially exposed a child to BDSM activities with his ex-wife. He also watched his ex-step-daughter shower until she was 9 years old (and he hasn’t seen her since then.) I fear for the welfare of any child he may be around”

http://www.datingpsychos.com/psycho/10715/Donald-West-Wilder-II

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Yup Yup ()
Date: March 18, 2013 08:14PM

Yeah that doesn't sound made up at all.....

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: fan of law & order ()
Date: March 18, 2013 08:15PM

The firefighter is done. He will lose his home his job and his life savings but he will keep his freedom.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 18, 2013 08:18PM

He will probably want to sell the home, but not too many people want to live in a home that someone has killed in. I think the real estate agent term is stigmatized property.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Dead Monkey ()
Date: March 18, 2013 08:19PM

The pic in the Washington Post article shows a really nice home, he wouldn't have any trouble selling it.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Abelard ()
Date: March 18, 2013 08:21PM

> Nobody entering his house goes through the window.

I did, on any number of occasions. Late, not drunk, and never got confused about whose house I was sneaking into.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: March 18, 2013 08:22PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2295395/High-school-star-athlete-16-fatally-shot-mistakenly-entering-similar-house-doors-new-home.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

The fucking British have better coverage of this than the US websites.


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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: March 18, 2013 08:23PM

What was going through the shooter's mind

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 18, 2013 08:25PM

Dead Monkey Wrote:
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> The pic in the Washington Post article shows a
> really nice home, he wouldn't have any trouble
> selling it.





Would you want to live in a home that someone was killed in? Not to mention the address is on news sites all around the internet.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 18, 2013 08:28PM

Better pics on the British site:



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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 18, 2013 08:29PM

Star: Gordley was described by students and coaches as an excellent athlete, a popular boy and a gifted rapper who had good intentions





Here comes the "he was an angel" comments, and how do you go from budding rapper to gifted rapper. The story is limited in details, but the news will continue to embellish with what little they have.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Yup Yup ()
Date: March 18, 2013 08:31PM

A family of sand monkeys will probably buy it and move their extended families in with them.

eesh Wrote:
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> Dead Monkey Wrote:
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> > The pic in the Washington Post article shows a
> > really nice home, he wouldn't have any trouble
> > selling it.
>
>
>
>
>
> Would you want to live in a home that someone was
> killed in? Not to mention the address is on news
> sites all around the internet.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 18, 2013 08:51PM

Meanwhile in gun free DC....



http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/woman-sexually-assaulted-tased-by-burglars-dc-police-say/2013/03/15/4772bcdc-8d81-11e2-9838-d62f083ba93f_singlePage.html?tid=obinsite



Four men broke into an apartment Thursday evening in Southwest Washington and brutally attacked a 22-year-old woman, shocking her with a taser, cutting her with a knife and punching and sexually assaulting her, D.C. police said.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Blowtorch999 ()
Date: March 18, 2013 08:52PM

eesh Wrote:
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> Star: Gordley was described by students and
> coaches as an excellent athlete, a popular boy and
> a gifted rapper who had good intentions
>
>
>
>
>
> Here comes the "he was an angel" comments, and how
> do you go from budding rapper to gifted rapper.
> The story is limited in details, but the news will
> continue to embellish with what little they have.

Oh yes they have this down pat. They will embelish him with accolades and compliments but never address the fact he was 16 running around drunk out of his mind at 2am and breaking into a neighbor's home.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Young Curmudgeon ()
Date: March 18, 2013 08:56PM

eesh Wrote:
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> Star: Gordley was described by students and
> coaches as an excellent athlete, a popular boy and
> a gifted rapper who had good intentions
>
>
> Here comes the "he was an angel" comments, and how
> do you go from budding rapper to gifted rapper.
> The story is limited in details, but the news will
> continue to embellish with what little they have.

Just pretend as though he's not running around drunk at 2 am. Oh, and in Trayvon Martin's case, pretend as though he hasn't been arrested and suspended.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Jason Gambino ()
Date: March 18, 2013 09:36PM

Robert A. Booie Wrote:
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> A review from a former GF on "dating psychos.com".
> Donald West Wilder II (is the shooter and sounds
> like he is a frequent poster here)
>
> From the review..." Unfortunately, the woman who
> profiled him on dontdatehimgirl.com did not list
> his age, so I had to guess an age for him and if I
> guessed it wrong I hope she sees this to tell us
> his true age, in case I guessed wrong. He might be
> years older or younger than what I guessed. I am
> not sure if this profile is still on DDHG but it
> was at one point. :
>
> “is a closeted kinky cross-dresser. He’s a
> volunteer fire fighter with the Sterling Volunteer
> Fire Department, so he has to be strong enough to
> pull people from burning buildings. During the
> course of our relationship, I was forced to engage
> in the most disgusting (IMO) sexual acts. One
> night, tied me up, blindfolded me, gagged me,
> attached a dildo to the gag and made me penetrate
> his anus with my mouth. He would often wear
> women’s clothes to bed. I fear for the safety of
> my child. He knowingly potentially exposed a child
> to BDSM activities with his ex-wife. He also
> watched his ex-step-daughter shower until she was
> 9 years old (and he hasn’t seen her since then.)
> I fear for the welfare of any child he may be
> around”
>
> http://www.datingpsychos.com/psycho/10715/Donald-W
> est-Wilder-II

Made me penetrate his anus with my mouth.

Harharhar!

That's a good one!

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: GZ ()
Date: March 18, 2013 09:45PM

https://twitter.com/gordley

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/loudoun-teen-fatally-shot-by-homeowner-identified/2013/03/18/1e8611f8-8fe2-11e2-9cfd-36d6c9b5d7ad_story.html?wprss=rss_homepage


"The homeowner heard his burglar alarm sound, grabbed his gun and went to investigate. When the two met on the stairs inside the house, the man said he told the teen to leave and fired a warning shot, according to a law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation."
sounds like they saw each other

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 18, 2013 09:48PM

So if he fired a warning shot....the teen still didn't run off? There's a lot more to this story, and it's not looking good for Trayvon 2.0



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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Famous Last Words ()
Date: March 18, 2013 09:48PM

"You ain't gonna shoot me bitch...."

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Famous Last Words ()
Date: March 18, 2013 09:52PM

Caleb Gordly - Sounds awfully a lot like Gordon Blvd...


User Profile : Gordon Blvd
Email: Hidden
Real Name: Apparently Caleb something or another............ o_0
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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Famous Footwear Of The Dead ()
Date: March 18, 2013 10:03PM

They're going to find the slug for the warning shot. There's no point in making it up.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Too Soon To Tell ()
Date: March 18, 2013 10:22PM

eesh Wrote:
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> So if he fired a warning shot....the teen still
> didn't run off? There's a lot more to this story,
> and it's not looking good for Trayvon 2.0

The kid was probably drunk and was stunned by the warning shot. He may have thought he would be shot if he ran. The homeowner didn't know the kid (although - if the kid lived two doors down - that may not be true), but the kid didn't know the homeowner (unless he did, and thought the guy might hurt him).

Too many ambiguities at this point. But that neighborhood in Leesburg isn't exactly the hood. Homeowners in DC have bars on the windows for a reason. Homeowners in Leesburg do not - also for a reason. People are just too quick to fire.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: ya think? ()
Date: March 18, 2013 10:24PM

eesh Wrote:
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it's not looking good for Trayvon 2.0

How could it? He is now earth food.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Obama loves you ()
Date: March 18, 2013 10:29PM

There've been a lot of home break-in's by burglary gangs over the last few years in Sterling, Ashburn, and Lansdowne. Bedroom communities that tend to be empty because you have to go 10 to 30 miles down the road to go to work, eat out, or see entertainment.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Famous Last Wordz ()
Date: March 18, 2013 10:29PM

Where is the vid of the deceased's father arguing with the someone at the shooter's house?

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: YHDGT ()
Date: March 18, 2013 10:33PM

f off and find it yourself. Everyone else did!

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: James ()
Date: March 18, 2013 10:44PM

Another case where the gun nuts will add to their stats of a Constituion loving armed man shooting an intruder.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Blowtorch999 ()
Date: March 18, 2013 10:51PM

Judged by 12 or carried by 6.......you decide

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: friskydingo ()
Date: March 18, 2013 10:52PM

James Wrote:
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> Another case where the gun nuts will add to their
> stats of a Constituion loving armed man shooting
> an intruder.


Well, that is sorta what happened, isn't it?

Was it justified? Who knows? We'll just have to wait and see what the Loundon County Prosecutor says.

 

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: is it? ()
Date: March 18, 2013 10:54PM

friskydingo Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> James Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Another case where the gun nuts will add to
> their
> > stats of a Constituion loving armed man
> shooting
> > an intruder.
>
>
> Well, that is sorta what happened, isn't it?
>
> Was it justified? Who knows? We'll just have to
> wait and see what the Loundon County Prosecutor
> says.



frisky,


Is it ok to still see my pediatrician as a fully grown, bearded man?

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Blowtorch999 ()
Date: March 18, 2013 10:55PM

A Castle Doctrine (also known as a Castle Law or a Defense of Habitation Law) is an American legal doctrine that designates a person's abode (or, in some states, any place legally occupied, such as a car or place of work) as a place in which the person has certain protections and immunities and may in certain circumstances use force, up to and including deadly force, to defend against an intruder without becoming liable to prosecution.[1] Typically deadly force is considered justified, and a defense of justifiable homicide applicable, in cases "when the actor reasonably fears imminent peril of death or serious bodily harm to himself or another".[1] The doctrine is not a defined law that can be invoked, but a set of principles which is incorporated in some form in the law of most states.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:01PM

I don't think Virginia has a Castle Doctrine, but they are usually supportive of home defense.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Blowtorch999 ()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:03PM

§ 18.2-91.1. Use of physical force, including deadly force, against an intruder; justified self-defense.

Any person who lawfully occupies a dwelling is justified in using any degree of physical force, including deadly physical force, against another person when the other person has unlawfully entered the dwelling, having committed an overt act toward the occupant or another person in the dwelling, and the occupant reasonably believes he or another person in the dwelling is in imminent danger of bodily injury.

Any occupant of a dwelling using physical force, including deadly physical force, as provided in this section shall be immune from civil liability for injuries or death of the other person who has unlawfully entered the dwelling that results from the use of such force.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:04PM

That's good.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: friskydingo ()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:05PM

If an intruder ignores a warning shot and continues to advance, can a homeowner's expectations that their life is in danger increase?

 

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Blowtorch999 ()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:07PM

You will be hearing a lot of blabber in the coming days about "he shot an unarmed teenager" but the statute above says nothing about armed or unarmed so they are going to have to STFU.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: criminaldingo ()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:09PM

friskydingo Wrote:
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> If an intruder ignores a warning shot and
> continues to advance, can a homeowner's
> expectations that their life is in danger
> increase?


Well, if you just stop breaking into people's houses, frisky, you won't have to worry about being shot by the homeowner.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: friskydingo ()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:10PM

I've never broken into anyone's home... thank you very much!

 

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:13PM

friskydingo Wrote:
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> I've never broken into anyone's home... thank you
> very much!




Did you know if you are found with spark plug porcelain, you get charged with possession of burglarious tools?

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: criminaldingo ()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:14PM

eesh Wrote:
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> friskydingo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I've never broken into anyone's home... thank
> you
> > very much!
>
>
>
>
> Did you know if you are found with spark plug
> porcelain, you get charged with possession of
> burglarious tools?


why?

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:16PM

I just found this out recently, spark plug porcelain is used by smash and grab looters. You throw it against tempered glass, not even hard, and the tempered glass completely shatters without much noise.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: criminaldingo ()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:29PM

eesh Wrote:
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> I just found this out recently, spark plug
> porcelain is used by smash and grab looters. You
> throw it against tempered glass, not even hard,
> and the tempered glass completely shatters without
> much noise.


I never knew that, but I'm sure frisky does.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Still Not Justified ()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:30PM

Obama loves you Wrote:
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> There've been a lot of home break-in's by burglary
> gangs over the last few years in Sterling,
> Ashburn, and Lansdowne. Bedroom communities that
> tend to be empty because you have to go 10 to 30
> miles down the road to go to work, eat out, or see
> entertainment.

A burglary is a crime against property, not against life. As infuriating as it may be, it does not justify killing someone, especially a teenager.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Blowtorch999 ()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:37PM

You might want to review the statue above before you make a huge ass out of yourself

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Justiy ()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:45PM

The intruder was headed upstairs where the homeowner and his family slept. He mistook the house for his own, as explained by his own father. If there are a lot of break-in's in your area, it's justified to own a firearn,just in case. I knew a classmate who confronted a burglarand was shot as a result. In this case, his daughter slept on the top floor and the 911 operators suggestion to stay in his bedroom was inappropriate.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: iodine ()
Date: March 19, 2013 12:12AM

If you're firing warning shots, you should't own a gun.

Period.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 19, 2013 01:30AM

iodine Wrote:
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> If you're firing warning shots, you should't own a
> gun.
>
> Period.



Why?

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Antiseptic ()
Date: March 19, 2013 01:32AM

eesh Wrote:
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> iodine Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If you're firing warning shots, you should't own
> a
> > gun.
> >
> > Period.
>
>
>
> Why?



Because computer tough guy is tough.


Period.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Ronnie ()
Date: March 19, 2013 02:16AM

He wasn't innocent. At the very least he was underage drinking (not a big deal) and he committed b&e which is a felony.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: NRA Kills Again! ()
Date: March 19, 2013 05:16AM

So this piece of shit volunteer firefighter/homeowner decides to take his little weapon and blow away a confused and drunken young man who was a danger to no one. That is the problem with these NRA types, they live for the chance to blow anybody away. So this nut-case will not go to prison but he will be in court for years and he will lose everything he has worked for his entire life. I am sure he is in a motel room somewhere right now thinking "what have I done?". What he has done is destroy several lives including his own.
Even though its clear that the homeowner is a piece of shit I do feel a little bit sorry for him as he was just sleeping in his own home and not bothering anyone. It's hard to make a snap decision at 2:30am but he sure made the wrong one.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: sterlingmarlin ()
Date: March 19, 2013 05:55AM

WingNut Wrote:
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> In the shooters favor-
>
> Deceased entered thru a rear window...
>
> Shooter called 911.
>
> Not in the shooters favor-
>
> The kid was young, black and the mood of the media
> and country wants to blame guns for everything.
>
> Sorry parents, but you fed the worms.

supposedly this fireman was a real redneck p.o.s. and probably racist too

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: reap ()
Date: March 19, 2013 06:06AM

Justiy Wrote:
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> He mistook the
> house for his own, as explained by his own father.


How would his father know that? Did he bust out the ouija board and ask his son?

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: jYCm7 ()
Date: March 19, 2013 06:28AM

Im not buying this whole grounded theory because his room was not clean. Himself and two friend some how mistaked the wrong house from his is also BS. They may look similar but are vastly different in the back. Watch the latest video, him and his friends pried the screen window B&E style off the house.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: B&E ()
Date: March 19, 2013 06:45AM

http://binged.it/119bikS Easy to mistake the rear of the two homes.

Yea right

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 19, 2013 09:02AM

jYCm7 Wrote:
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> Im not buying this whole grounded theory because
> his room was not clean. Himself and two friend
> some how mistaked the wrong house from his is also
> BS. They may look similar but are vastly different
> in the back. Watch the latest video, him and his
> friends pried the screen window B&E style off the
> house.



Especially after he fired a warning shot, and the kid still kept walking up the steps.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: cupper ()
Date: March 19, 2013 09:13AM

NRA Kills Again! Wrote:
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> So this piece of shit volunteer
> firefighter/homeowner decides to take his little
> weapon and blow away a confused and drunken young
> man who was a danger to no one. That is the
> problem with these NRA types, they live for the
> chance to blow anybody away. So this nut-case will
> not go to prison but he will be in court for years
> and he will lose everything he has worked for his
> entire life. I am sure he is in a motel room
> somewhere right now thinking "what have I done?".
> What he has done is destroy several lives
> including his own.
> Even though its clear that the homeowner is a
> piece of shit I do feel a little bit sorry for him
> as he was just sleeping in his own home and not
> bothering anyone. It's hard to make a snap
> decision at 2:30am but he sure made the wrong one.

Do you have any evidence that the firefighter belonged to the NRA?
No need for him to spend much time in court if no charges are filed.
There you go, making things up.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: March 19, 2013 09:31AM

sterlingmarlin Wrote:
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> WingNut Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > In the shooters favor-
> >
> > Deceased entered thru a rear window...
> >
> > Shooter called 911.
> >
> > Not in the shooters favor-
> >
> > The kid was young, black and the mood of the
> media
> > and country wants to blame guns for everything.
> >
> > Sorry parents, but you fed the worms.
>
> supposedly this fireman was a real redneck p.o.s.
> and probably racist too


Probably racist too? Based on what?

The shooter pissed some woman off somewhere and may or may not be a weird fuck, but you can tell already the anti-gunners and scum biased media would love the scenario to be innocent,mistaken black kid vs. evil whitey gun neck.

It's a tragedy, but the first simple step to avoid in the future is to not startle homeowners by climbing thru their windows at 2:30AM.

Sure nuff.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: graymoose1 ()
Date: March 19, 2013 10:09AM

Why is a 16 yr old drunk and out till 2:30 a.m.?
It is sad that a boy is dead but it was justified

---------------------------------------------------
W.W.S.D. what would Scooby Doo

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: friskydingo ()
Date: March 19, 2013 10:24AM

eesh Wrote:
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>
>
> Especially after he fired a warning shot, and the
> kid still kept walking up the steps.



That warning shot must have been deafeningly loud since it was in the house.

 

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Blowtorch999 ()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:14AM

Here's another angle on this.

If this kid had gone into his own home thru a window drunk at 2am, his own dad would probably have killed him.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Al Jackson ()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:55AM

Poor kid. Goes to the wrong house at 2 am with two of his close friends. None of the three notice that the driveway is on the wrong side of the house. Or the landscaping is different. Or the latch on the gate to the back yard is not the same as his. Or the back of the house and yard are very different than his. But fortunately, the screen prys off the back window the same as at his house. And this house has a burgler alarm. It goes off. Landing inside, finds the furniture is all different. And since it's not his house, he doesn't know how to silence the alarm. But at least the staircase looks familiar. Except for the big white guy at the top telling him to get out of his house. The guy who fires the warning shot. Who was not on the midnight shift at the fire department that night. Bad luck. Though no reason to back down the stairs or leave the house. But no matter, the kid was drinking and the homeowner should know that the teen is not responsible for any of his decisions. If I had a son, he would look like him. Poor kid.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: iodine ()
Date: March 19, 2013 12:07PM

If you live in Virginia a "warning shot" could be used as evidence that you were not in fear for your life and therefore not justified in using deadly force.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Ralph Pootawn ()
Date: March 19, 2013 12:22PM

NRA Kills Again! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> So this piece of shit volunteer
> firefighter/homeowner decides to take his little
> weapon and blow away a confused and drunken young
> man who was a danger to no one. That is the
> problem with these NRA types, they live for the
> chance to blow anybody away. So this nut-case will
> not go to prison but he will be in court for years
> and he will lose everything he has worked for his
> entire life. I am sure he is in a motel room
> somewhere right now thinking "what have I done?".
> What he has done is destroy several lives
> including his own.
> Even though its clear that the homeowner is a
> piece of shit I do feel a little bit sorry for him
> as he was just sleeping in his own home and not
> bothering anyone. It's hard to make a snap
> decision at 2:30am but he sure made the wrong one.


How is it clear that the homeowner is a piece of shit? You're down on him and the NRA because he protected himself and his family from a burglar who proceeded towrd him even after a warning shot?

You're pretty damn ignorant.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Blowtorch999 ()
Date: March 19, 2013 12:25PM

iodine Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> If you live in Virginia a "warning shot" could be
> used as evidence that you were not in fear for
> your life and therefore not justified in using
> deadly force.

Which is why you dont do something stupid like fire a warning shot. There is only ONE reason to pull your weapon. Not to scare someone, not to intimidate someone, not to wound someone.......only to shoot to kill someone.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: lol whut 007 ()
Date: March 19, 2013 12:41PM

Doesn't Caleb resemble this dude:

http://chantilly.patch.com/articles/car-chase-crash-nets-chantilly-burglary-suspect?fb_action_ids=10200638617510350&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%7B%2210200638617510350%22%3A465123583561633%7D&action_type_map=%7B%2210200638617510350%22%3A%22og.recommends%22%7D&action_ref_map=%5B%5D

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: ms. information ()
Date: March 19, 2013 12:56PM

All the facts aren't in. For all we know the boy was there to fuck the wife while the fireman was supposed to be working... The fireman may have been laying in wait to murder the boy in cold blood. I find it interesting the fireman was so quick to call the press. Perhaps to insure his spin got out there... All the alarms, 911 calls and warning shots seem like a lot of ass covering to me... Just throw away anything you think is a fact... This investigation has only just begun!

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Blowtorch999 ()
Date: March 19, 2013 01:44PM

ms. information Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I find it interesting the fireman was so
> quick to call the press. Perhaps to insure his
> spin got out there... All the alarms, 911 calls
> and warning shots seem like a lot of ass covering
> to me... Just throw away anything you think is a
> fact... This investigation has only just begun!

I dont blame the guy one bit for getting his story out via the media. Once the race baiting flame throwers like Al Sharpton and Co and Jesse Jackson get involved this guy will be portrayed as the Grand Wizard of the Sterling branch of the KKK.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: WJLA7 ()
Date: March 19, 2013 02:33PM

Parents to forgive shooter

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/03/caleb-gordley-parents-forgive-shooter--86418.html

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: March 19, 2013 02:38PM

WJLA7 Wrote:
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> Parents to forgive shooter
>
> http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/03/caleb-gordley
> -parents-forgive-shooter--86418.html


Speaks volumes of class and an ability to face the reality of a situation no one possibly could have wanted.

I'm feeling kind of mournful for the kid now.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Damn Windows ()
Date: March 19, 2013 02:39PM

Too much malt liquor!

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Blowtorch999 ()
Date: March 19, 2013 02:43PM

WingNut Wrote:
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> WJLA7 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Parents to forgive shooter
> >
> >
> http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/03/caleb-gordley
>
> > -parents-forgive-shooter--86418.html
>
>
> Speaks volumes of class and an ability to face the
> reality of a situation no one possibly could have
> wanted.
>
> I'm feeling kind of mournful for the kid now.

The Poverty Pimp Al Sharpton will not be ahppy about this development

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: FUNdamental ()
Date: March 19, 2013 03:06PM

I have a question; How do we know the "warning shot" was fired before the fatal shot was fired?

I mean, let's say he shot the kid. He then decided for a better cover he needs to add this "warning shot" scenario. So he shoots the ceiling a few minutes after he shoots the kid.

This scenario would make more sense than the firing a warning shot and the kid continued up the stairs. That shot was loud.

Also, I remember in college several times drunks entering the wrong room and getting in the wrong bed. Hell, I had a high female rugby player cross the hall and get into my bed while I was out taking a piss. It happens when you are tired and over intoxicated.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: f y i ()
Date: March 19, 2013 03:10PM

FUNdamental Wrote:
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> I have a question; How do we know the "warning
> shot" was fired before the fatal shot was fired?

Who cares? He was under no obligation to fire a warning shot to begin with.

> I mean, let's say he shot the kid. He then
> decided for a better cover he needs to add this
> "warning shot" scenario. So he shoots the ceiling
> a few minutes after he shoots the kid.

If they can prove that, he would probably be guilty of the illegal discharge of a firearm in an occupied dwelling as the threat was over by that point.

> This scenario would make more sense than the
> firing a warning shot and the kid continued up the
> stairs. That shot was loud.

No it wouldn't. It actually makes no sense whatsoever as he is under no obligation to fire a warning shot.

> Also, I remember in college several times drunks
> entering the wrong room and getting in the wrong
> bed. Hell, I had a high female rugby player cross
> the hall and get into my bed while I was out
> taking a piss. It happens when you are tired and
> over intoxicated.

Did she crawl in through a closed window, set of an alarm and then refuse to leave when warned?

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Tbone ()
Date: March 19, 2013 03:42PM

Who hosted this underage party?

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Tim19 ()
Date: March 19, 2013 04:27PM

Of course he did. A home owner has a right to defend himself against an advancing threat in 100% of cases. Don't like it? Don't break into someone else's house.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: FoolSmacker ()
Date: March 19, 2013 05:23PM

FUNdamental Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> This scenario would make more sense than the
> firing a warning shot and the kid continued up the
> stairs. That shot was loud.

You know what else was loud? The alarm. That didn't seem to deter this kid.

I'm not sure I buy the "wrong house" scenario. This guy is apparently drunk off his ass, to the point that he allegedly enters the wrong house. Then he makes his way through a strange house, probably in the dark, definitely wasted, and doesn't trip on a single piece of unfamiliarly-placed furniture? Seems to me, either he was sober enough to navigate the unfamiliar layout, or he knew what house he was in and he knew the layout of that house. Or both. Either of those scenarios points to a story more nefarious than a drunken mistake.

Either way, warning shot or not, if you're not smart enough to back down in the face of an armed homeowner, I can't feel bad for what happens to you.

---------------------------------
Who knows from whence he came, and who knows where he goes, dot dot dot.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: _Eyedea_ ()
Date: March 19, 2013 05:30PM

R.I.P, 20's is too early to die, fucked up

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: antisemitsm ()
Date: March 19, 2013 05:35PM

WingNut Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> sterlingmarlin Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WingNut Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > In the shooters favor-
> > >
> > > Deceased entered thru a rear window...
> > >
> > > Shooter called 911.
> > >
> > > Not in the shooters favor-
> > >
> > > The kid was young, black and the mood of the
> > media
> > > and country wants to blame guns for
> everything.
> > >
> > > Sorry parents, but you fed the worms.
> >
> > supposedly this fireman was a real redneck
> p.o.s.
> > and probably racist too
>
>
> Probably racist too? Based on what?

I'd say that anyone with swastika tattoo has some racist issues. Im surprised they'd even allow to be a fireman with something like that.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Jiminy Christmas ()
Date: March 19, 2013 05:51PM

antisemitsm Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> WingNut Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > sterlingmarlin Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > WingNut Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > In the shooters favor-
> > > >
> > > > Deceased entered thru a rear window...
> > > >
> > > > Shooter called 911.
> > > >
> > > > Not in the shooters favor-
> > > >
> > > > The kid was young, black and the mood of
> the
> > > media
> > > > and country wants to blame guns for
> > everything.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry parents, but you fed the worms.
> > >
> > > supposedly this fireman was a real redneck
> > p.o.s.
> > > and probably racist too
> >
> >
> > Probably racist too? Based on what?
>
> I'd say that anyone with swastika tattoo has some
> racist issues. Im surprised they'd even allow to
> be a fireman with something like that.


Where did you see he had a swastika tattoo? it wasnt on that scorned woman site which he likely doesnt even know about since they'll remove whatever you ask them to with a simple email...

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: my slow com....... ()
Date: March 19, 2013 07:52PM

The civil suit's is are in the works.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: March 19, 2013 08:12PM

my slow com....... Wrote:
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> The civil suit's is are in the works.


Not if you had read the statute regarding deadly force in Virginia (posted on the 1st page). The homeowner is immune from civil liability for injury or death.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Blowtorch999 ()
Date: March 19, 2013 08:17PM

my slow com....... Wrote:
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> The civil suit's is are in the works.

Im sure there are some desperate slime ball lawyers that will take the case. But as the old saying goes....."You can sue a ham sandwich but........"

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Dane Bramage ()
Date: March 19, 2013 10:03PM

my slow com....... Wrote:
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> The civil suit's is are in the works.


...against the party hosts

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“We don’t have any rude, unpleasant people here. We’re different!”

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: A SYMBOL OF HATE ()
Date: March 19, 2013 10:22PM

Jiminy Christmas Wrote:
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> Where did you see he had a swastika tattoo?

He was always very proud of his Aryan heritage

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Cactus ()
Date: March 20, 2013 04:45AM

> evil whitey gun neck

supposedly he used to walk thru the neighborhood shouting racial epithets to people, doing racial intimidations, and was abusive. definitely something not right in the head with this fellow. whether that's why he shot him or not is a different story, but he definitely showed signs of being a redneck.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: oh puh leeese ()
Date: March 20, 2013 04:58AM

Gonads & Strife Wrote:
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> my slow com....... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The civil suit's is are in the works.
>
>
> Not if you had read the statute regarding deadly
> force in Virginia (posted on the 1st page). The
> homeowner is immune from civil liability for
> injury or death.


The firefighter deprived this kid of his civil rights! Plus a hundred other possibilities.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Jack Reacher ()
Date: March 20, 2013 07:28AM

Cactus Wrote:
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> > evil whitey gun neck
>
> supposedly he used to walk thru the neighborhood
> shouting racial epithets to people, doing racial
> intimidations, and was abusive. definitely
> something not right in the head with this fellow.
> whether that's why he shot him or not is a
> different story, but he definitely showed signs of
> being a redneck.


Source for this? Or are you just some butt-hurt buddy of this "budding rapper" trying to get some internet justice? Think like an adult for a second - if there was ANY dirt on this guy the media would be all over it. Remember every little thing about George Zimmerman? And his wife? And his parents?

Face it.... Your friend is dead because he broke in a house, likely with maliscious intent. He was drunk and black - we all know the equation: drunk*black+breaking&entering=rape.

Your little pervert buddy was trying to rape this firefighters hottie daughters and now you wanna discredit the firefighter. Good luck with that, if I am on a jury and have to choose between a hero firefighter whose home is in the middle of being invaded or the drunk budding rapper who is committing a felony I think you know who I'm choosing.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 20, 2013 09:32AM

Sounds like some high school friend is using FFXU to start rumors against the firefighter.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Jack Reacher ()
Date: March 20, 2013 09:40AM

eesh Wrote:
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> Sounds like some high school friend is using FFXU
> to start rumors against the firefighter.


It definitely does. The ultra-lib Washington Post hasnt come across anything abou this traumatized fellow who was only protecting his family or you surely would have heard about it.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: wronggg ()
Date: March 20, 2013 09:46AM

OK Iill bite on the dumbest comment so far. What civil rights were violated Oh Please? Just what civil right did this person have that broke into someones home through a rear window and was going upstairs to the sleeping quarters? Does anyone know if the deceaseds family had a burglar alarm that they actively used?

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Archer Khan ()
Date: March 20, 2013 10:53AM

The open minded, tolerant, fair minded,liberal AP and Wash Post were orgasiming yesterday at the prospoect of an America that was less than half white by 2050.

They forgot to factor in the monkey formula. All shit colored folks are a danger to themselves. A brown person is 100 TIMES more likely to be killed by another turd, kill themselves or to be incarcerated than whites. Whites are only 50times more likely to be killed by a monkey than the other way around. Source: 2010 census and DOJ stats 2011.

good luck with your population take over.....HAHAHAHHEHEHEHETETETHHEHE

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Blowtorch999 ()
Date: March 20, 2013 11:31AM

oh puh leeese Wrote:
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> >>
>
> The firefighter deprived this kid of his civil
> rights! Plus a hundred other possibilities.

Ok Einstein, tell us all what "civil rights" of the deceased burglar were violated? This is the Al Sharpton logic. He's black and he's dead, therefore he must have had his civil rights violated.

You sir are an idiot and a racist.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: BEH ()
Date: March 20, 2013 01:07PM

Not being in the mind of the Fireman , we'll never know his exact motivation, but its not a stretch of the imagination to realize that it must be quite disconcerting to wake up and find an uninvited unannounced man sized person has broken into your house.

Would the fireman have shot if the kid was white? At the same time, would there be a similar outcry if a black dude shot a white intruder?

And what was the motivation of the kid? Was it only a drunken mistake, or did he have a more insidious intent?

One irrefutable fact remains. If the kid was home where he was supposed to be , there would have been no incident.

The punishment may have exceeded the crime , but it is wise to remember that a lot of people around here have guns.

If policemen, who are trained for these incidents often kill people under questionable circumstances, how much more dangerous would a half asleep, scared citizen with a gun be?

Don't want to get shot?

Behave, pay for your pancakes , and don't wander into peoples homes.

A bullet doesn't care about your intentions.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: MEHZ ()
Date: March 20, 2013 02:46PM

Would the kid have continued up the stairs if the fireman was black? Remember the kid's dad is white and the fireman is white.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Ten Rounds in the Chamber ()
Date: March 20, 2013 03:27PM

An unfortunate incident for both parties.

But if the story holds up, you can't blame the fireman. He's in his house. Someone breaks in. The person who breaks in starts up the stairs. The homeowner tells the person to stop and fires a warning shot. The person doesn't respond properly. The homeowner shoots.

Did race have anything to do with it? You tell me: Someone breaks into your house. Your wife and children are upstairs. The intruder is white. Are you going to think: "Oh, he's white. No threat there."? I don't think so.

The intruder was a teen, though whether the homeowner was aware of that is uncertain. Still: Someone breaks into your house. You can tell he's comparatively young. Are you going to think: "Oh, unless he's 21, he can't cause any real harm."? I don't think so.

The intruder had been drinking, though whether the homeowner was aware of that is uncertain. Still: Someone breaks into your house. You can tell he's been drinking. Are you going to think: "Oh, he's been drinking. I guess he's a happy drunk. I only fear sober intruders."? I don't think so.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: lizzie ()
Date: March 20, 2013 03:56PM

No. Not another Trayvon, unlike Trayvon, this kid did it to himself. We all know my ass would have shot someone entering my home. He fired a warning shot, kid didn't heed his warning, that's his problem.

And it's a damn shame because he's the only black male I've ever actually found slightly attractive. He must be mixed.


Yup.

I have everything you said I wouldn't, HA!
#stillwinning

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 20, 2013 04:39PM

iodine Wrote:
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> If you live in Virginia a "warning shot" could be
> used as evidence that you were not in fear for
> your life and therefore not justified in using
> deadly force.




Quite the opposite, him firing a warning shot means he was reluctant to use deadly force, and used it only as a last resort. It shows he was not eager to use a firearm on someone.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: March 20, 2013 04:44PM

lizzie Wrote:
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> >
> And it's a damn shame because he's the only black
> male I've ever actually found slightly attractive.
> He must be mixed.
>
>
> Pedophile lizzie?

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: oh puh leeese ()
Date: March 20, 2013 05:25PM

Blowtorch999 Wrote:
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> oh puh leeese Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > >>
> >
> > The firefighter deprived this kid of his civil
> > rights! Plus a hundred other possibilities.
>
> Ok Einstein, tell us all what "civil rights" of
> the deceased burglar were violated? This is the Al
> Sharpton logic. He's black and he's dead,
> therefore he must have had his civil rights
> violated.
>
> You sir are an idiot and a racist.


LOL!
You might want to study up on basic law. The precedent has been used hundreds of times and almost always results in an out of court settlement.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: conclusion ()
Date: March 20, 2013 06:04PM

oh puh leeese Wrote:
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> Blowtorch999 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > oh puh leeese Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > >>
> > >
> > > The firefighter deprived this kid of his
> civil
> > > rights! Plus a hundred other possibilities.
> >
> > Ok Einstein, tell us all what "civil rights" of
> > the deceased burglar were violated? This is the
> Al
> > Sharpton logic. He's black and he's dead,
> > therefore he must have had his civil rights
> > violated.
> >
> > You sir are an idiot and a racist.
>
>
> LOL!
> You might want to study up on basic law. The
> precedent has been used hundreds of times and
> almost always results in an out of court
> settlement.


So, you don't know what a civil right is. Thanks for clearing that up.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: fan of trolls dot com ()
Date: March 20, 2013 08:05PM

conclusion Wrote:
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> oh puh leeese Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Blowtorch999 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > oh puh leeese Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > > The firefighter deprived this kid of his
> > civil
> > > > rights! Plus a hundred other possibilities.
> > >
> > > Ok Einstein, tell us all what "civil rights"
> of
> > > the deceased burglar were violated? This is
> the
> > Al
> > > Sharpton logic. He's black and he's dead,
> > > therefore he must have had his civil rights
> > > violated.
> > >
> > > You sir are an idiot and a racist.
> >
> >
> > LOL!
> > You might want to study up on basic law. The
> > precedent has been used hundreds of times and
> > almost always results in an out of court
> > settlement.
>
>
> So, you don't know what a civil right is. Thanks
> for clearing that up.


Well played.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: We Belong to the Ages ()
Date: March 20, 2013 08:15PM

Cactus Wrote:
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> > doing racial
> intimidations




lol

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Show me da money ()
Date: March 20, 2013 08:39PM

oh puh leeese Wrote:
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> >
> LOL!
> You might want to study up on basic law. The
> precedent has been used hundreds of times and
> almost always results in an out of court
> settlement.

An out of court settlement is a far cry from being found liable. Out of court settlements are done all the time to make stupid fuck wads go away.

OK, pay the parents $20. That,s what their little nigger was worth.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: iodine ()
Date: March 20, 2013 10:23PM

>Quite the opposite, him firing a warning shot means he was reluctant to use >deadly force, and used it only as a last resort. It shows he was not eager to >use a firearm on someone.

Or,

After firing the warning shot, the intruder, who was drunk and thinking that he was in his own home, feared for his life and charged to person shooting at him, convinced that the homeowner was the intruder.

The warning shot thereby exacerbating the entire situation.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 21, 2013 04:43AM

iodine,



I don't think many people charge towards a supposed intruder that is pointing and firing a weapon in their direction.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: iodine ()
Date: March 21, 2013 09:25PM

Exactly.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: Leigh ()
Date: January 14, 2014 02:54PM

Yup Yup Wrote:
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> Yeah that doesn't sound made up at all.....


Actually, it's not. I have met him and also know some of the other people he has been involved with.

It's quite true.

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: The Dark Passenger ()
Date: January 14, 2014 02:56PM

Oh....kaaaaaaay........

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Re: Another Trayvon Martin?
Posted by: boring14 ()
Date: January 14, 2014 03:57PM

lemme guess...the nigger was a football player and loved listening to profane rap music

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