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72% of NRA members support gun control
Posted by:
Waples Mill
()
Date: January 29, 2013 03:59PM
NOT!!! :)
Love it when the lamestream media comes up with this kind of fiction. Here's the real deal:
Survey Finds NRA Members United
Posted on January 25, 2013
To rebut bogus surveys by pollsters on the payroll of antigun groups, NRA-ILA conducted a national scientific poll of NRA members and found near unanimity among NRA members on a wide range of issues involving mental health reform and firearm rights.
Gun control advocates including New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, as well as various media outlets, have released data claiming to represent the views of NRA members, despite the fact that none of those surveys had access to the NRA's membership list. The NRA survey of 1,000 randomly-selected NRA members across the country is the only legitimate survey of NRA members on these issues.
The data from this survey indicates that NRA members are united in their desire for Washington to focus on keeping firearms from the mentally ill and to reject unconstitutional gun control measures that infringe on Second Amendment rights.
"Mayor Bloomberg's claims that gun owners are divided are totally false. It is nothing more than an attempt by anti-gun activists to further their long-standing political agenda," said NRA-ILA Executive Director Chris Cox. "American gun owners and Second Amendment supporters are ready for Washington to put politics aside and come together to fix our broken mental health system."
Key Findings:
91% of NRA members support laws keeping firearms away from the mentally ill.
92% of NRA members oppose gun confiscation via mandatory buy-back laws.
89% oppose banning semi-automatic firearms, often mistakenly called "assault rifles."
93% oppose a law requiring gun owners to register with the federal government.
92% oppose a federal law banning the sale of firearms between private citizens.
Methodology--The national survey was conducted by OnMessage Inc. Telephone interviews were conducted January 13-14, 2013. This survey consists of 1,000 NRA members and was stratified by state to reflect voter distribution in the 2012 presidential election. The margin of error for this survey is +/- 3.09%.
http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/2013/1/survey-finds-nra-members-united.aspx
Love it when the lamestream media comes up with this kind of fiction. Here's the real deal:
Survey Finds NRA Members United
Posted on January 25, 2013
To rebut bogus surveys by pollsters on the payroll of antigun groups, NRA-ILA conducted a national scientific poll of NRA members and found near unanimity among NRA members on a wide range of issues involving mental health reform and firearm rights.
Gun control advocates including New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, as well as various media outlets, have released data claiming to represent the views of NRA members, despite the fact that none of those surveys had access to the NRA's membership list. The NRA survey of 1,000 randomly-selected NRA members across the country is the only legitimate survey of NRA members on these issues.
The data from this survey indicates that NRA members are united in their desire for Washington to focus on keeping firearms from the mentally ill and to reject unconstitutional gun control measures that infringe on Second Amendment rights.
"Mayor Bloomberg's claims that gun owners are divided are totally false. It is nothing more than an attempt by anti-gun activists to further their long-standing political agenda," said NRA-ILA Executive Director Chris Cox. "American gun owners and Second Amendment supporters are ready for Washington to put politics aside and come together to fix our broken mental health system."
Key Findings:
91% of NRA members support laws keeping firearms away from the mentally ill.
92% of NRA members oppose gun confiscation via mandatory buy-back laws.
89% oppose banning semi-automatic firearms, often mistakenly called "assault rifles."
93% oppose a law requiring gun owners to register with the federal government.
92% oppose a federal law banning the sale of firearms between private citizens.
Methodology--The national survey was conducted by OnMessage Inc. Telephone interviews were conducted January 13-14, 2013. This survey consists of 1,000 NRA members and was stratified by state to reflect voter distribution in the 2012 presidential election. The margin of error for this survey is +/- 3.09%.
http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/2013/1/survey-finds-nra-members-united.aspx
Re: 72% of NRA members support gun control
Posted by:
Zero Libby
()
Date: January 29, 2013 04:01PM
You need to conceal yourself a little better than that.
Re: 72% of NRA members support gun control
Posted by:
Below_Me
()
Date: January 29, 2013 04:43PM
Waples Mill Wrote:
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> 92% of NRA members oppose gun confiscation via
> mandatory buy-back laws.
>
> 92% oppose a federal law banning the sale of
> firearms between private citizens.
Funny, I haven't heard anyone seriously propose either of those things. Nice to see that the NRA doesn't let the truth get in the way of it's ginning-up the gun nut base.
> 89% oppose banning semi-automatic firearms, often
> mistakenly called "assault rifles."
Not all semi-auto weapons are indentified as assault riffles. Best to keep the gun nuts afraid, though.
> 93% oppose a law requiring gun owners to register
> with the federal government.
This one is comming, I think.
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> 92% of NRA members oppose gun confiscation via
> mandatory buy-back laws.
>
> 92% oppose a federal law banning the sale of
> firearms between private citizens.
Funny, I haven't heard anyone seriously propose either of those things. Nice to see that the NRA doesn't let the truth get in the way of it's ginning-up the gun nut base.
> 89% oppose banning semi-automatic firearms, often
> mistakenly called "assault rifles."
Not all semi-auto weapons are indentified as assault riffles. Best to keep the gun nuts afraid, though.
> 93% oppose a law requiring gun owners to register
> with the federal government.
This one is comming, I think.
Re: 72% of NRA members support gun control
Posted by:
MikeyWearsBloomers
()
Date: January 29, 2013 05:00PM
Bloomberg says it's 74 percent. Wonder where he found those numbers.
http://newyork.newsday.com/news/nation/nra-speech-nyc-mayor-michael-bloomberg-statement-blasts-gun-lobby-s-response-1.4364078
http://newyork.newsday.com/news/nation/nra-speech-nyc-mayor-michael-bloomberg-statement-blasts-gun-lobby-s-response-1.4364078
Re: 72% of NRA members support gun control
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 102
()
Date: January 29, 2013 05:12PM
Below_Me Wrote:
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> Funny, I haven't heard anyone seriously propose
> either of those things. Nice to see that the NRA
> doesn't let the truth get in the way of it's
> ginning-up the gun nut base.
You mean like you dont let facts get in the way or your opinion? Obama has proposed this already so has Biden.
> Not all semi-auto weapons are indentified as
> assault riffles. Best to keep the gun nuts
> afraid, though.
Youre right that includes handguns which makes it even worse.
> > 93% oppose a law requiring gun owners to
> register
> > with the federal government.
>
> This one is comming, I think.
You mean you hope
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> Funny, I haven't heard anyone seriously propose
> either of those things. Nice to see that the NRA
> doesn't let the truth get in the way of it's
> ginning-up the gun nut base.
You mean like you dont let facts get in the way or your opinion? Obama has proposed this already so has Biden.
> Not all semi-auto weapons are indentified as
> assault riffles. Best to keep the gun nuts
> afraid, though.
Youre right that includes handguns which makes it even worse.
> > 93% oppose a law requiring gun owners to
> register
> > with the federal government.
>
> This one is comming, I think.
You mean you hope
Re: 72% of NRA members support gun control
Posted by:
reakkt
()
Date: January 29, 2013 08:24PM
I would like to bring my kids to an nra safety class and have them shoot but I think the organization is nutty.
Re: 72% of NRA members support gun control
Posted by:
BelowMe
()
Date: January 29, 2013 09:55PM
Whoever the fuck stole my unregistered handle - Fuck You.
But thanks for stating the obvious.
I hate the NRA - and I own weapons out the ass - all the way through Class III full auto.
Attachments:
But thanks for stating the obvious.
I hate the NRA - and I own weapons out the ass - all the way through Class III full auto.
Attachments:
Re: 72% of NRA members support gun control
Posted by:
NRA Guy
()
Date: January 29, 2013 10:10PM
I am one of many NRA members that support gun control. Unless you firmly grip your firearm you will not shoot accurately. Control your gun, you control your shot and you hit what you are aiming for.
Re: 72% of NRA members support gun control
Posted by:
educated consumer
()
Date: January 30, 2013 04:27AM
Why would anyone care what NRA members support or not support?
Just the fact that they are NRA members proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are idiotic fools whose opinions are worthless.
Just the fact that they are NRA members proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are idiotic fools whose opinions are worthless.
Re: 72% of NRA members support gun control
Posted by:
pay attention
()
Date: January 30, 2013 09:53AM
Below_Me Wrote:
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> Waples Mill Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 92% of NRA members oppose gun confiscation via
> > mandatory buy-back laws.
> >
> > 92% oppose a federal law banning the sale of
> > firearms between private citizens.
>
> Funny, I haven't heard anyone seriously propose
> either of those things. Nice to see that the NRA
> doesn't let the truth get in the way of it's
> ginning-up the gun nut base.
Have you been living under a log for the past 6 weeks? What the hell do you think "universal background check" means? A universal background check would ban the sale between two non FFL citizens.
> > 93% oppose a law requiring gun owners to
> register
> > with the federal government.
>
> This one is comming, I think.
Nope. No way this gets through Congress.
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> Waples Mill Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 92% of NRA members oppose gun confiscation via
> > mandatory buy-back laws.
> >
> > 92% oppose a federal law banning the sale of
> > firearms between private citizens.
>
> Funny, I haven't heard anyone seriously propose
> either of those things. Nice to see that the NRA
> doesn't let the truth get in the way of it's
> ginning-up the gun nut base.
Have you been living under a log for the past 6 weeks? What the hell do you think "universal background check" means? A universal background check would ban the sale between two non FFL citizens.
> > 93% oppose a law requiring gun owners to
> register
> > with the federal government.
>
> This one is comming, I think.
Nope. No way this gets through Congress.
Re: 72% of NRA members support gun control
Posted by:
a reader
()
Date: January 30, 2013 12:59PM
Below_Me Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Waples Mill Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 92% of NRA members oppose gun confiscation via
> > mandatory buy-back laws.
> >
> > 92% oppose a federal law banning the sale of
> > firearms between private citizens.
>
> Funny, I haven't heard anyone seriously propose
> either of those things. Nice to see that the NRA
> doesn't let the truth get in the way of it's
> ginning-up the gun nut base.
You must not read the news. NY governor Cuomo said confiscation and/or mandatory buybacks of "assault weapons" were on the table before they actually passed much of that into law. If a state governor says that, it is a serious proposal. If it is now law, it isn't even a proposal anymore. From the New York Times:
"Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option."
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/21/nyregion/cuomo-says-he-will-outline-gun-measures-next-month.html?_r=0
Additionally, the new NY law passed this year bans private sales of "assault weapons" unless it is to direct family members, and confiscates some weapons and weapon components that were legal a month ago.
"Magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds and manufactured before 1994, which are currently legal, would have to be turned over to authorities or sold out of state within one year."
"The new laws provide for an immediate ban on semi-automatic rifles, shotguns and pistols with a "military-style feature," such as a flash suppressor or a bayonet mount. Guns that had been legal but are being banned would be grandfathered in, but their owners must register their firearms with the state or sell them out of state within one year." - USA Today
So you blame the NRA for lying? Doesn't look good for your arguments if you are poisoning the debate with childish lies.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Waples Mill Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 92% of NRA members oppose gun confiscation via
> > mandatory buy-back laws.
> >
> > 92% oppose a federal law banning the sale of
> > firearms between private citizens.
>
> Funny, I haven't heard anyone seriously propose
> either of those things. Nice to see that the NRA
> doesn't let the truth get in the way of it's
> ginning-up the gun nut base.
You must not read the news. NY governor Cuomo said confiscation and/or mandatory buybacks of "assault weapons" were on the table before they actually passed much of that into law. If a state governor says that, it is a serious proposal. If it is now law, it isn't even a proposal anymore. From the New York Times:
"Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option."
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/21/nyregion/cuomo-says-he-will-outline-gun-measures-next-month.html?_r=0
Additionally, the new NY law passed this year bans private sales of "assault weapons" unless it is to direct family members, and confiscates some weapons and weapon components that were legal a month ago.
"Magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds and manufactured before 1994, which are currently legal, would have to be turned over to authorities or sold out of state within one year."
"The new laws provide for an immediate ban on semi-automatic rifles, shotguns and pistols with a "military-style feature," such as a flash suppressor or a bayonet mount. Guns that had been legal but are being banned would be grandfathered in, but their owners must register their firearms with the state or sell them out of state within one year." - USA Today
So you blame the NRA for lying? Doesn't look good for your arguments if you are poisoning the debate with childish lies.
Re: 72% of NRA members support gun control
Posted by:
M9
()
Date: January 30, 2013 02:02PM
a reader Wrote:
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> Below_Me Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Waples Mill Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > 92% of NRA members oppose gun confiscation
> via
> > > mandatory buy-back laws.
> > >
> > > 92% oppose a federal law banning the sale of
> > > firearms between private citizens.
> >
> > Funny, I haven't heard anyone seriously propose
> > either of those things. Nice to see that the
> NRA
> > doesn't let the truth get in the way of it's
> > ginning-up the gun nut base.
>
> You must not read the news. NY governor Cuomo
> said confiscation and/or mandatory buybacks of
> "assault weapons" were on the table before they
> actually passed much of that into law. If a state
> governor says that, it is a serious proposal. If
> it is now law, it isn't even a proposal anymore.
> From the New York Times:
>
> "Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale
> to the state could be an option."
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/21/nyregion/cuomo-s
> ays-he-will-outline-gun-measures-next-month.html?_
> r=0
>
> Additionally, the new NY law passed this year bans
> private sales of "assault weapons" unless it is to
> direct family members, and confiscates some
> weapons and weapon components that were legal a
> month ago.
>
> "Magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds
> and manufactured before 1994, which are currently
> legal, would have to be turned over to authorities
> or sold out of state within one year."
>
> "The new laws provide for an immediate ban on
> semi-automatic rifles, shotguns and pistols with a
> "military-style feature," such as a flash
> suppressor or a bayonet mount. Guns that had been
> legal but are being banned would be grandfathered
> in, but their owners must register their firearms
> with the state or sell them out of state within
> one year." - USA Today
>
> So you blame the NRA for lying? Doesn't look good
> for your arguments if you are poisoning the debate
> with childish lies.
Banning firearms with bayonet mounts is a perfect example of how ignorant some people can be. I can find no record of a mounted bayonet being used in the commission of a crime. Criminals would use a screw clamp to attach a butcher knife if they really wanted to.
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> Below_Me Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Waples Mill Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > 92% of NRA members oppose gun confiscation
> via
> > > mandatory buy-back laws.
> > >
> > > 92% oppose a federal law banning the sale of
> > > firearms between private citizens.
> >
> > Funny, I haven't heard anyone seriously propose
> > either of those things. Nice to see that the
> NRA
> > doesn't let the truth get in the way of it's
> > ginning-up the gun nut base.
>
> You must not read the news. NY governor Cuomo
> said confiscation and/or mandatory buybacks of
> "assault weapons" were on the table before they
> actually passed much of that into law. If a state
> governor says that, it is a serious proposal. If
> it is now law, it isn't even a proposal anymore.
> From the New York Times:
>
> "Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale
> to the state could be an option."
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/21/nyregion/cuomo-s
> ays-he-will-outline-gun-measures-next-month.html?_
> r=0
>
> Additionally, the new NY law passed this year bans
> private sales of "assault weapons" unless it is to
> direct family members, and confiscates some
> weapons and weapon components that were legal a
> month ago.
>
> "Magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds
> and manufactured before 1994, which are currently
> legal, would have to be turned over to authorities
> or sold out of state within one year."
>
> "The new laws provide for an immediate ban on
> semi-automatic rifles, shotguns and pistols with a
> "military-style feature," such as a flash
> suppressor or a bayonet mount. Guns that had been
> legal but are being banned would be grandfathered
> in, but their owners must register their firearms
> with the state or sell them out of state within
> one year." - USA Today
>
> So you blame the NRA for lying? Doesn't look good
> for your arguments if you are poisoning the debate
> with childish lies.
Banning firearms with bayonet mounts is a perfect example of how ignorant some people can be. I can find no record of a mounted bayonet being used in the commission of a crime. Criminals would use a screw clamp to attach a butcher knife if they really wanted to.