I mean this as a genuine question, so don't get all butt hurt. When Jesus got crucified, it was God's plan, correct? So did the jews that crucified him go to hell? They were fulfilling God's plan so it seems kind of messed up that they would have to suffer for eternity for doing what he wanted them to do...

Just STFU. It's not a genuine question at all.

The only people who are more annoying than fundamental Christians are idiots like you who can't stop themselves from doing dumb shit like this just to try to fuck with them.

For Christ Sake Wrote:
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> Just STFU. It's not a genuine question at all.
>
> The only people who are more annoying than
> fundamental Christians are idiots like you who
> can't stop themselves from doing dumb shit like
> this just to try to fuck with them.


Thanks for not getting butt hurt, jack wagon.

You're not supposed to ask questions to make sense of their fairy tales.

You're just supposed to believe, have faith.

However, if you believe in The Great Pumpkin, that story is a bit less complicated and more believable.

But as in any case, it is acceptable to blame the Jews.

I would never want to be a member of a group whose symbol was a guy nailed to two pieces of wood.

the grammar police Wrote:
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> I mean this as a genuine question, so don't get
> all butt hurt. When Jesus got crucified, it was
> God's plan, correct? So did the jews that
> crucified him go to hell? They were fulfilling
> God's plan so it seems kind of messed up that they
> would have to suffer for eternity for doing what
> he wanted them to do...


Romans crucified Jesus.
Yes, God got mad and destroyed the Roman Empire.

the grammar police Wrote:
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> I mean this as a genuine question, so don't get
> all butt hurt. When Jesus got crucified, it was
> God's plan, correct? So did the jews that
> crucified him go to hell? They were fulfilling
> God's plan so it seems kind of messed up that they
> would have to suffer for eternity for doing what
> he wanted them to do...

Its OK to question as long as you're willing to learn.

It does seems kind of messed up, from the outside looking in.
Open our doors and come on in. You will learn and be loved.
Find the answers from within yourself.

the grammar police Wrote:
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> I mean this as a genuine question, so don't get
> all butt hurt. When Jesus got crucified, it was
> God's plan, correct? So did the jews that
> crucified him go to hell? They were fulfilling
> God's plan so it seems kind of messed up that they
> would have to suffer for eternity for doing what
> he wanted them to do...


The Jews didn't crucify Jesus, so your question is based on a false premise. But to your larger question, which appears to be, "Do people doing wrong go Hell, even if they are part of God's plan?", I would submit that the answer to that is "yes" (if they don't repent through accepting Jesus before death). Everyone has a choice, even those who are facing one to fulfill God's plan. When faced with choices, we must then be responsible for the one's we make. Look at Moses - he wasn't allowed to enter the Promised Land because he became angry and broke the tablets, even though he remained a man of God.

Chris T Wrote:
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> the grammar police Wrote:
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> -----
> > I mean this as a genuine question, so don't get
> > all butt hurt. When Jesus got crucified, it was
> > God's plan, correct? So did the jews that
> > crucified him go to hell? They were fulfilling
> > God's plan so it seems kind of messed up that
> they
> > would have to suffer for eternity for doing
> what
> > he wanted them to do...
>
> Its OK to question as long as you're willing to
> learn.
>
> It does seems kind of messed up, from the outside
> looking in.
> Open our doors and come on in. You will learn and
> be loved.
> Find the answers from within yourself.


you forgot, it's a really good place to molest boys also!

The Vatican Wrote:
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> Chris T Wrote:
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> > the grammar police Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > I mean this as a genuine question, so don't
> get
> > > all butt hurt. When Jesus got crucified, it
> was
> > > God's plan, correct? So did the jews that
> > > crucified him go to hell? They were
> fulfilling
> > > God's plan so it seems kind of messed up that
> > they
> > > would have to suffer for eternity for doing
> > what
> > > he wanted them to do...
> >
> > Its OK to question as long as you're willing to
> > learn.
> >
> > It does seems kind of messed up, from the
> outside
> > looking in.
> > Open our doors and come on in. You will learn
> and
> > be loved.
> > Find the answers from within yourself.
>
>
> you forgot, it's a really good place to molest
> boys also!

Keep building walls. Keep pushing the truth away with your wit.
We'll be here when you need us, I just hope it isn't too late.

I think this is just classic...
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Give it a rest till Easter.


It's fascinating how much mythology and history of earlier civilizations in the area were plagiarized by the Jews and therefore by Christians and Muslims.

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Didn't want this to turn into a flame war... but i guess i probably shouldn't have asked FFU this question

For Christ Sake Wrote:
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> Just STFU. It's not a genuine question at all.
>
> The only people who are more annoying than
> fundamental Christians are idiots like you who
> can't stop themselves from doing dumb shit like
> this just to try to fuck with them.


They can't help themselves; they're zealots.

Nasty, self-righteous zealots, hating those who don't appreciate their awe-inspiring brilliance.

In other words, they're assholes.

the grammar police Wrote:
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> I mean this as a genuine question, so don't get
> all butt hurt. When Jesus got crucified, it was
> God's plan, correct? So did the jews that
> crucified him go to hell? They were fulfilling
> God's plan so it seems kind of messed up that they
> would have to suffer for eternity for doing what
> he wanted them to do...


That's kind of like asking "What ever happened to the Russian guy from The Sopranos season 3?" or "What was in Marcellus Wallace's briefcase?"

They are questions about fictional stories written by humans. Any answer is debatable and ultimately unfalsifiable.

What was in Marcellus Wallace's briefcase?

Too Easy - the soul of the Tea Party captured on a small screen
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the grammar police Wrote:
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> I mean this as a genuine question, so don't get
> all butt hurt. When Jesus got crucified, it was
> God's plan, correct? So did the jews that
> crucified him go to hell? They were fulfilling
> God's plan so it seems kind of messed up that they
> would have to suffer for eternity for doing what
> he wanted them to do...


A young man working in the army was constantly humiliated because he believed in God. One day the Captain wanted to humiliate him before the troops.

He called the young man and said: – Soldier, come here, take the key and go and park the Jeep in front.

The young soldier replied: – Sir, I cannot drive!

The Captain said: – But then ask your assistant, God! Show us that He exist.

The soldier takes the key and walks to the vehicle while he prays … He parks the Jeep PERFECTLY and exactly where the Captain instructed.

When he got back from the Jeep, he saw the other soldiers crying. They said: – We want to serve your God!

The astoned young soldier asked what was going on? The Captain told him to walk out with him, he opened the hood of the Jeep and showed the soldier that he removed the engine.

Without blinking an eye, the soldier said: You see, Sir, that’s My God!

We serve a supernatural God. God of the Impossible! He, Who gives life where it doesn’t exist, NOTHING is too big, or too difficult for Him!

Do you believe?

One of the excluded gospels had Jesus and Judas both in on a plan to sacrifice Jesus to the Romans.

The Soldier Wrote:
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> the grammar police Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I mean this as a genuine question, so don't get
> > all butt hurt. When Jesus got crucified, it was
> > God's plan, correct? So did the jews that
> > crucified him go to hell? They were fulfilling
> > God's plan so it seems kind of messed up that
> they
> > would have to suffer for eternity for doing
> what
> > he wanted them to do...
>
>
> A young man working in the army was constantly
> humiliated because he believed in God. One day the
> Captain wanted to humiliate him before the
> troops.
>
> He called the young man and said: – Soldier,
> come here, take the key and go and park the Jeep
> in front.
>
> The young soldier replied: – Sir, I cannot
> drive!
>
> The Captain said: – But then ask your assistant,
> God! Show us that He exist.
>
> The soldier takes the key and walks to the vehicle
> while he prays … He parks the Jeep PERFECTLY and
> exactly where the Captain instructed.
>
> When he got back from the Jeep, he saw the other
> soldiers crying. They said: – We want to serve
> your God!
>
> The astoned young soldier asked what was going on?
> The Captain told him to walk out with him, he
> opened the hood of the Jeep and showed the soldier
> that he removed the engine.
>
> Without blinking an eye, the soldier said: You
> see, Sir, that’s My God!
>
> We serve a supernatural God. God of the
> Impossible! He, Who gives life where it doesn’t
> exist, NOTHING is too big, or too difficult for
> Him!
>
> Do you believe?



Nigger Please.

Even if Jesus planned the whole thing his purpose on earth was only to fulfill the prophecy of the messiah. He came so that we may have everlasting life thru him. You can do all things thru Jesus Christ who gives you strength this I put my life on, give it a try trust me He will never fail anyone.

One day, a woman's primary and backup parachute failed. She prayed to the Flying Spaghetti Monster to save her. As she neared the ground, she noticed a strange sensation - she had grown wings. Confident from this miracle, she stretched her wings and felt her descent slow. As she gently touched to the ground, the wings faded. However, her fellow skydivers witnessed the event and ate may plates of spaghetti and meatballs to honor their savior.

Genevieve Wrote:
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> One day, a woman's primary and backup parachute
> failed. She prayed to the Flying Spaghetti Monster
> to save her. As she neared the ground, she noticed
> a strange sensation - she had grown wings.
> Confident from this miracle, she stretched her
> wings and felt her descent slow. As she gently
> touched to the ground, the wings faded. However,
> her fellow skydivers witnessed the event and ate
> may plates of spaghetti and meatballs to honor
> their savior.


Amen!!

Genevieve I pray that Christ opens your understanding and your heart

Yes Genevieve, we pray for you. Stop drinking the devils sweat.

Who dresses this kid?
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I believe in God. I understand where those who don't are coming from; I know I used to be pretty ambivalent to His existing. I think it's something people have to decide on a case by case basis. I have my views, but I don't shove them down people's throats unless people ask me for them.

I'll tell everyone something right here and now, however: I don't believe in a personal God. He has more important things to do than fix your problems.

I believe in lots of gods.



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Whatever God is convenient at the time.

I have a personal Jesus. Jesus built my hot rod. I found myself in love with the world
So there was only one thing that I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long.

Inlove Wrote:
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> Genevieve I pray that Christ opens your
> understanding and your heart


I believe that when I die, there is no soul to rise to the pearly gates or to be reborn. My life is judged by how I live it on a daily basis, not by repenting on my deathbed and having been baptized as a child. I will not allow a book to dictate morality to me, especially one with arbitrary rules such as not mixing different fibers on the same garment or not working on a particular day of the week. I will not follow a god that tests his followers by instructing them to kill their children. I will try to make better decisions by observing my the affects of my actions on others. I hope for patience and understanding. I do not have an eternal soul. I can only wish that with time, I will become the person that my friends, family, and coworkers deserve.

Keep praying, keep believing, but don't waste your breath on me.

Genevieve Wrote:
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> I believe that when I die, there is no soul to
> rise to the pearly gates or to be reborn. My life
> is judged by how I live it on a daily basis, not
> by repenting on my deathbed and having been
> baptized as a child. I will not allow a book to
> dictate morality to me, especially one with
> arbitrary rules such as not mixing different
> fibers on the same garment or not working on a
> particular day of the week. I will not follow a
> god that tests his followers by instructing them
> to kill their children. I will try to make better
> decisions by observing my the affects of my
> actions on others. I hope for patience and
> understanding. I do not have an eternal soul. I
> can only wish that with time, I will become the
> person that my friends, family, and coworkers
> deserve.

I truly hope that you will have a religious experience. Yes, the Bible does have many archaic rules. The idea is not to live by every single rule. It is to strive to live by God's commandments.

In Judaism, we believe that God forgives if you truly repent. There is only one requirement, and that's only if you're male. Otherwise, you should attempt to live your life as best you can.

Genevieve Wrote:
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> Inlove Wrote:
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> > Genevieve I pray that Christ opens your
> > understanding and your heart
>
>
> I believe that when I die, there is no soul to
> rise to the pearly gates or to be reborn. My life
> is judged by how I live it on a daily basis, not
> by repenting on my deathbed and having been
> baptized as a child. I will not allow a book to
> dictate morality to me, especially one with
> arbitrary rules such as not mixing different
> fibers on the same garment or not working on a
> particular day of the week. I will not follow a
> god that tests his followers by instructing them
> to kill their children. I will try to make better
> decisions by observing my the affects of my
> actions on others. I hope for patience and
> understanding. I do not have an eternal soul. I
> can only wish that with time, I will become the
> person that my friends, family, and coworkers
> deserve.
>
> Keep praying, keep believing, but don't waste your
> breath on me.


I can save you baby.

The devil's chasing me.

Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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>
> Yes, the Bible does have many archaic rules.

Because it is a collection of accounts and stories written by humans in a time when those rules weren't considered "archaic".

> There is only one requirement, and that's only if you're male.

Sexism is archaic.

This church is disturbing.



The lyrics the little kid is singing is


"The Bible’s right, somebody’s wrong.
The Bible’s right, somebody’s wrong.
Romans one, twenty six and twenty seven;
Ain’t no homos gonna make it to Heaven."


Then the parishioners stand up in ovation and cheers.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d90_1338398196

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> I believe that when I die, there is no soul to
> rise to the pearly gates or to be reborn.

Your brain is yours, Genevieve. You can believe anything you want. You can believe you're turning into a vanilla milkshake after you die, if that's what makes you happy.

Who would care?

> My life
> is judged by how I live it on a daily basis, not
> by repenting on my deathbed and having been
> baptized as a child.

Repenting on a deathbed? Sounds like something out of cheesy movie.

> I will not allow a book to
> dictate morality to me, especially one with
> arbitrary rules such as not mixing different
> fibers on the same garment or not working on a
> particular day of the week.

Mixing fibers? Never heard of that one, but since I generally stick to cotton, I guess I've got that base covered, although, I would never worry about that in the first place.

Why would you?

> I will not follow a
> god that tests his followers by instructing them
> to kill their children.

Thank goodness. You hear of this happening everyday.

Just last week, two of my kids were getting on my nerves, and I heard this voice say, kill your children, Alias. Luckily, they escaped and went back to college.

Happy ending..... this time.

> I will try to make better
> decisions by observing my the affects of my
> actions on others. I hope for patience and
> understanding. I do not have an eternal soul. I
> can only wish that with time, I will become the
> person that my friends, family, and coworkers
> deserve.

Genevieve, is this a skit or something, because it's weird.

You're a grown women.

Why do you think you have to explain to anyone what you do or don't believe in?

Why would anyone care?

Alias, aren't you Catholic?

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> Alias, aren't you Catholic?

No, eesh, I'm a witch. Remember?

I catch animals out in the woods and boil them up in a big black pot sitting in my fireplace.

And then I take off my clothes and dance around, praying to the goddess of global harmony for universal wisdom, toilets that actually flush and the return of incandescent light bulbs.

Have you seen Insidious, Alias? I bet you are like the old woman in that movie....




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eesh Wrote:
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> Have you seen Insidious, Alias? I bet you are like
> the old woman in that movie....
>

Yes.

Numbers no longer talks to me without a cross in his hand.

Alias Wrote:
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> and I heard this voice say, kill your
> children, Alias. Luckily, they escaped and went
> back to college.

Sure go make fun of religion all you want, but as a true believer, I really do hear God's voice whenever I pray. He wants me to burn things.

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>He wants me to burn things.

Nice Ralph Wiggum reference.

Isaac Wrote:
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> Alias Wrote:
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> > and I heard this voice say, kill your
> > children, Alias. Luckily, they escaped and went
> > back to college.
>
> Sure go make fun of religion all you want, but as
> a true believer, I really do hear God's voice
> whenever I pray. He wants me to burn things.

That's a tough one.

In my case, my kids saw me coming at them, throwing things and screaming about population control.... so they grabbed their computers and ran.

What stops you from burning things?

Seroquel?

I've been using His guidance to learn, practicing with small structure fires and accelerants. I await his final instruction for me to bring the holiness of Jesus in a blessed conflagration of punishment and redemption in the name of our Father. We seek to anoint all in the name of Christ.

Old family photo with Alias.



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> I've been using His guidance to learn, practicing
> with small structure fires and accelerants. I
> await his final instruction for me to bring the
> holiness of Jesus in a blessed conflagration of
> punishment and redemption in the name of our
> Father. We seek to anoint all in the name of
> Christ.

bigot alert

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> Old family photo with Alias.
>
>

Which one am I?

The creepy one.

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> > Genevieve I pray that Christ opens your
> > understanding and your heart

LIAR

> Keep praying, keep believing, but don't waste your
> breath on me.

LIAR in cahoots.