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Hey chuck, where's the thread with the grades?

 

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DAAMN, someone or someones at fcps are gonna get burned bad for this... I'd say this qualifies as a serious security breach.

 

chuckhoffmann Wrote:
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> Fairfax City Patch
> UPDATED: FHS Final Grades Leaked on Fairfax
> Underground
> http://fairfaxcity.patch.com/articles/fhs-final-gr
> ades-leaked-on-fairfax-underground

Superintendent Jack Dale sent the following message to FHS parents Wednesday evening:

"On December 19, Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) learned of a posting to the blog Fairfax Underground..."

LOL

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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.

hehehe, I saw that too.

 

Holy shit! Its 2166 pages long, yet its just over 5.5 megs.

Somebody fucked up big time.

I have you now.

TheNorthman Wrote:
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> Holy shit! Its 2166 pages long, yet its just over
> 5.5 megs.
>
> Somebody fucked up big time.


There's a lot of white space in that document.

It also has demanded that Fairfax Underground remove the student information, and will take further action if that organization does not comply

Why couldn't they just ask nicely? Can't we all just get along?

diskyfringo Wrote:
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> if that organization does
> not comply


and what type of "organization" are we exaclty?...as i see it, nothing here has ever been very organized.

diskyfringo Wrote:
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> It also has demanded that Fairfax
> Underground remove the student information, and
> will take further action if that organization does
> not comply
>
> Why couldn't they just ask nicely? Can't we all
> just get along?


say goodbye to FFU...we all know Cary doesn't remove anything from the site...even when a school went into lockdown because of something some unstable person posted here, he did nothing.

this could be the big one, guys...especially in light of recent events, that 2concerned school lockdown fiasco might get this sight pulled permanently.

Nah, one of two things will happen..

1) Cary takes it down at some point on his own

2) A court order to take it down will come, eventually, and he will take it down.

The site isn't going anywhere over this.

The internet police aren't coming to unplug all the servers.

 

http://fairfaxcity.patch.com/articles/fhs-final-grades-leaked-on-fairfax-underground

like, comment, subscribe

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That's pretty fuckin' cool eli!

I have you now.

Last time I got interviewed was when a massage parlor was busted.

she just opened pandora's box...
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TheNorthman Wrote:
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LOL +1

 

friskydingo Wrote:
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> > That's pretty fuckin' cool eli!
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> LOL +1


LOL +2

it's not like this is the first time FFU has shown up on the nightly news.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Gravis Wrote:
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> it's not like this is the first time FFU has shown
> up on the nightly news.


It's why I keep coming back

 

diskyfringo Wrote:
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I like you Eli

 

Since the information is now public domain is it ok to download and read? it's funny how the abc7news team had a video here: http://www.wjla.com/articles/2012/12/fairfax-schools-leak-personal-student-information-posted-online-83316.html#commentformstory83316 about keeping the student information private except they provided the students names of who they interviewed. "That information is private and I don't want that getting out there" said, (full name provided by abc7), a Fairfax High School Junior.


p.s. i don't plan on downloading or viewing the information as i find it to be kind of pointless. although it would be interesting to see how people do in the AP classes. if they all really are brianiacs. i dumb ass rocks myself is.
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soooooo..... Wrote:
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> Since the information is now public domain is it
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Will the Fairfax City Police and FCPS Board seize the server logs of FFU and track down each and every IP that downloaded the file?

Will they chase down and prosecute everyone?

I can't see a court order being issued for anything except possibly the IP address of the person who uploaded the file, and only for the purpose of tracking who might have violated FCPS security. Nothing can happen to this site, and I doubt they can order this information taken down since it is now probably re-posted all over the internet and stored on thousands of people's hard drives.

Once it's out, it's out. Try un-ringing that bell.

Smoke them out of their holes Wrote:
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> I can't see a court order being issued for
> anything except possibly the IP address of the
> person who uploaded the file, and only for the
> purpose of tracking who might have violated FCPS
> security.

Plus they can't prove without a doubt that a person may not have intended to download or may have unknowingly or accidentally clicked the link and it started to download automatically.

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> Plus they can't prove without a doubt that a
> person may not have intended to download or may
> have unknowingly or accidentally clicked the link
> and it started to download automatically.


the original poster who uploaded the files is without a doubt fucked though.

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> the original poster who uploaded the files is
> without a doubt fucked though.




Cary said they used Tor, so they are completely anonymous. The only thing FCPS can focus on is exactly who has access to those files, and when the files were accessed.

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> Cary said they used Tor, so they are completely
> anonymous. The only thing FCPS can focus on is
> exactly who has access to those files, and when
> the files were accessed.


If that is the case, they will look at who had access to the files in the FCPS database and most likely start from there. I'm sure that FCPS has a logging system of their own...

Chuck Hoffmann Please add these additional articles to your original post above.

Thanks


The Washington Examiner
Fairfax students' grades leaked online
http://washingtonexaminer.com/fairfax-students-grades-leaked-online/article/2516582

103 Rock FM
Fairfax High School Students Grades Leaked To Online Forum
http://www.103rockfm.com/?p=64772

WUSA9
John Torre, spokesman for Fairfax County, Va., public schools, asked community website to remove file containing students' names, grades
http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/234620/373/Schools-Want-Website-To-Remove-Students-Names-Grades

diskyfringo Wrote:
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> http://fairfaxcity.patch.com/articles/fhs-final-gr
> ades-leaked-on-fairfax-underground
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> like, comment, subscribe
>

Looks like more comments were added...

Dusty McRib Wrote:
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> > Cary said they used Tor, so they are completely
> > anonymous. The only thing FCPS can focus on is
> > exactly who has access to those files, and when
> > the files were accessed.
>
>
> If that is the case, they will look at who had
> access to the files in the FCPS database and most
> likely start from there. I'm sure that FCPS has a
> logging system of their own...


You guys are giving Fairfax County Police's computer forensics way too much credit. If you've ever dealt with them, then you'd know that they have very little capability or interest as far as things like that go. They might have a few people there who know what's up but they really don't do that kinda stuff. This isn't CSI Fairfax.

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friskydingo Wrote:
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> It's why I keep coming back


and here i thought it was because of the easy access to coke dealers.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

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> and here i thought it was because of the easy
> access to coke dealers.


I thought we were keeping that on the down low...

I never herd of rock 103, does it play Creed in heavy rotation?

LMAO

Dusty McRib Wrote:
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> ...they will look at who had access to the files in the FCPS database and most
> likely start from there. I'm sure that FCPS has a logging system of their own...

Probably anyone on the system holding the file has access to them. If it's a Unix system and a plain old print file of some type (which is what it looks like in the text version - simple mass print out), then it was probably generated and took on whatever permissions the creator typically defaults to. As far as "access logging", typically there isn't any ("paper trails" are so important to have and so often simply don't exist for numerous reasons). In fact, even the file itself will probably have a "last accessed" date that reflects the time someone looking into this incident accessed the file himself - very human nature to look at the file FIRST, then start looking at other things like "file dates"...too late!

The fact that someone used Tor to "hide" their identity suggests whoever grabbed the file knew what they were doing around computers. If this IS a Unix system there are cases where files get left in the printer spooling directories for whatever reasons - some sys admin traipsing around checking things out (maybe because of space usage or print queue checking or whatever) could have stumbled across it, said "cool!", and did the dirty. Or whatever.

I would be surprised if there is any (1) valuable logs of anything or (2) way other than timestamps on logins/logouts that will provide more than a hint of a clue to who did this. Instead, plain old interviews of any-obvious-one who could have done this plus hopes of someone having HEARD of someone who did it coming forward - like any other clueless crime - will probably be what breaks it, if anything.

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Smoke them out of their holes Wrote:
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> Will the Fairfax City Police and FCPS Board seize
> the server logs of FFU and track down each and
> every IP that downloaded the file?
>
> Will they chase down and prosecute everyone?

In another thread, someone asked why we need assault weapons. This is why. For when the jackboots show up to sieze my PC because I read a public thread. Like the furor over ARs, this is all misdirected. They need to go after the asswipe FCPS SysAdmin who allowed the info to escape.

Washington Post:

Fairfax Underground is an online bulletin board, not a blog, where almost anything goes. It is largely uncensored, so the content can be sexist, racist, vulgar or offensive, sometimes all in one post.


LOL!

eesh and Numbers often accomplish this feat in 1/2 of a post.

Alias Wrote:
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> Washington Post:
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> Fairfax Underground is an online bulletin board,
> not a blog, where almost anything goes. It is
> largely uncensored, so the content can be sexist,
> racist, vulgar or offensive, sometimes all in one
> post.
>
>
> LOL!
>
> eesh and Numbers often accomplish this feat in 1/2
> of a post.

Re: bloody blisters

Killer instinct, animal supreme

VA: Fairfax Schools leak: Personal student info will be removed
Office of Inadequate Security
http://www.databreaches.net/?p=26488

Grades Leaked Online in Fairfax Co
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/50264086/ns/local_news-washington_dc/

friskydingo Wrote:
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> Nah, one of two things will happen..
>
> 1) Cary takes it down at some point on his own
>
> 2) A court order to take it down will come,
> eventually, and he will take it down.
>
> The site isn't going anywhere over this.
>
> The internet police aren't coming to unplug all
> the servers.




Looks like I was right, as usual.