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Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: snowdenscold ()
Date: July 01, 2010 12:00AM

Does anyone know why this shopping center has always had so much trouble keeping stores? It seems there's been a constant churn (or just plain empty spots) since I can remember (late 80's). The inside was always depressing feeling.

From what I hear (I only come to Burke on occasion nowadays) there's very few stores open at the moment.

The surrounding area isn't bad enough to warrant it being a ghost town, so what gives?

I wonder if any developers have given thought to tearing the whole thing down sans SFW and starting over...

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: chinatown ()
Date: July 01, 2010 12:58AM

Its a quirky assortment of stores. Nothing to draw in the right.demographic except staples during back to school season. That and its in a freakin valley.

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: LuLu ()
Date: July 02, 2010 06:22PM

So many store fronts are empty that it barely classifies as a strip mall anymore. It's starting to look like the stuff you see in Woodbridge.

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: jjoe ()
Date: July 02, 2010 11:56PM

What stores are there? Or should I ask, what stores have closed? Is Ross still over there? Pet Smart? Staples?

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: BurkeVet ()
Date: July 03, 2010 06:45PM

Since living in the area I've seen the fabric store and the furniture store close down. I just came from Iraq in September and the Furniture store just opened and now its going out of business. I agree with whoever said it has to do with demographics. The only people shopping in that area are cheap assholes...mainly Spanish who like to back into cars and drive away only to stall their car in the process and look like dumbshits.

Ross, AutoParts, Staples, and PetSmart are still open from the last time I was there.

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: Movies! ()
Date: January 20, 2011 12:56PM

anybody remember when they had a Movie theatre in there? Early 80's I think I saw Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure there. How about the pet shop and trakauto?

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: dd ()
Date: January 22, 2011 09:44PM

Ever since we have lived here, Shoppers Food Warehouse has carried a low class stigma. I like it because the prices are good. There are not many folks in that strip mall that speak English! Has kind of a third world country vibe.

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: Dudesky ()
Date: January 22, 2011 11:39PM

At least Tau Tau and Cedar Cafe are still going strong - both those places are legit!

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: walker ()
Date: March 05, 2011 01:14PM

Don't forget the veterinary clinic is there as well. I've been taking my pets there for years and highly recommend them.

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: Dog is God ()
Date: April 06, 2011 10:45PM

Yeah, I remember there use to be a funcoland, karate shop, and movie theater next to the Track and Auto - you can still see part of the hall by going indoor to the Track and Auto.

It's mostly due to Shoppers sucking that there isn't any good business in that mall.

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 10, 2011 09:07PM

mall sucked LOOOOONNNNGGG before Shoppers moved in.......................

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: snowdenscold ()
Date: May 11, 2011 09:17AM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> mall sucked LOOOOONNNNGGG before Shoppers moved
> in.......................


But WHY? I need to know, haha.

I mean, is it just too close to Burke Town Plaza a quarter mile down the road? Because that seems to have done fine for a long time.

Is it because of the quirky 'indoor' mall layout which might have been cool in the 70's but no likes it now? And/or combined with the fact that the non-indoor-mall stores are all huge, so only certain types of shops can set up there?

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: Shadow ()
Date: May 12, 2011 11:24AM

The weird layout was because the Haft family needed a tax write off back in the day. After Gramm-Rudman passed, they needed to lose the write off. So, the mall was originally built to be a losing proposition. I believe Combined Properties owns it now and is struggling to make it into a profitable venture.

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: theShadowToo ()
Date: May 27, 2011 01:25PM

Shadow Wrote:
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> The weird layout was because the Haft family
> needed a tax write off back in the day. After
> Gramm-Rudman passed, they needed to lose the write
> off. So, the mall was originally built to be a
> losing proposition. I believe Combined Properties
> owns it now and is struggling to make it into a
> profitable venture.

Rolling Valley Mall was built long before Gramm-Rudman was passed and has been a Compbined Properties property since the beginning.

The Hafts were either the majority (or outright) owners of Combined Properties and had a variety of stores that seemed to *always* be tenents in their shopping centers. I don't think it's an issue of being too close to Burke Town Plaza (as snowdenscold considers), I think it's an issue w/ CP's management. Look at any of their properties (Fair City Mall, Saratoga, Chantilly Plaza -- where the Staples is, etc.) and you'll see empty stores. Now, you'd think that in at least one case there would be a success, but since most of them suck, I'd attribute it to management.

Or Robert Haft's hair.

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: snowdenscold ()
Date: May 27, 2011 04:06PM

theShadowToo Wrote:
I think it's an issue w/
> CP's management. Look at any of their properties
> (Fair City Mall, Saratoga, Chantilly Plaza --
> where the Staples is, etc.) and you'll see empty
> stores. Now, you'd think that in at least one
> case there would be a success, but since most of
> them suck, I'd attribute it to management.
>

That's certainly plausible.

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: Fegelein ()
Date: May 31, 2011 09:00PM

Anyone remember the pet store?

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: BurkeBandit ()
Date: June 01, 2011 05:02PM

the Glory Days shopping center is too close for it to make any bread... The Rolling Valley Mall has become a strip mall for the broke niggas

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: CMR_53 ()
Date: June 10, 2011 02:01AM

Did the furniture store finally close? It has been "closing" for like a year. I began to think that closing forever actually meant that they would be closing...forever (but never actually closed).

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: Shadow ()
Date: June 15, 2011 11:32AM

Yes, yes it is gone. Finally.

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: JDMCD5 ()
Date: June 23, 2011 02:37PM

Rent in that mall must be expensive.

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: Chest Rockwell ()
Date: August 18, 2011 02:46PM

I'm going to take it way back now: Wall to Wall Sound! Who remembers?

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: Yucky24 ()
Date: August 22, 2011 02:14PM

It's surrounded by low income townhouses full of nigs, spics and muslimes.

They steal everything and ruin the vibe of the area.

Can't wait to move from this 3rd world liberal shithole.

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: Rob ()
Date: September 22, 2011 06:20PM

Was there when it was being built. Had Dart Drug and triple screen cinima.Was dead from the start. Only interest was the Pizza place inside as it was owned by the former chief of police in Saigon during the war, the one who shot off a guys head on camera. The media used to stop by to see if they could get some film of him, but he just sat in a booth in the back and let his family run everything

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: chuckhoffmann ()
Date: September 23, 2011 06:05AM

 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/22/2013 06:11AM by chuckhoffmann.

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: life sentence ()
Date: September 23, 2011 07:31PM

Yucky24 Wrote:
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> It's surrounded by low income townhouses full of
> nigs, spics and muslimes.
>
> They steal everything and ruin the vibe of the
> area.
>
> Can't wait to move from this 3rd world liberal
> shithole.


I hear what you are saying...I live in that neighborhood. But drive down Shiplett or Burke Centre Parkway through the single family home neighborhoods and you will see the same story! Where do you plan to move to, exactly? Some hillbilly wasteland where you will be surrounded by ignorant, meth smoking hicks? To me that is worse than living around here.

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: JoJo Simpson ()
Date: April 27, 2013 06:47PM

Does anyone know if Onelife Fitness finished his expansion yet?

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: waldenthreenet ()
Date: May 21, 2013 08:15AM

RE: Rolling Valley Mall Posted by: snowdenscold ()
Date: July 01, 2010 12:00AM


Does anyone know why this shopping center has always had so much trouble keeping stores? It seems there's been a constant churn (or just plain empty spots) since I can remember (late 80's). The inside was always depressing feeling.

Conversation: I just did a search and found a REIT (real estate investment trust) named Combined Properties likely owns Rolling Valley Mall.

The Haft Family is now long gone. Though the some Shoppers Food Marts are still here but not sure who now owns Shoppers. May be Combined Properties Inc ?


Topic 02: Here are two pics I just found via Google Image Search. on Rolling Valley Mall.


Can anyone else shed any light on Combined Properties or the neighborhood near Rolling Valley Mall or the Mall itself ?


Cafe Twin
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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: Reading Be Fundamental ()
Date: May 21, 2013 12:46PM

waldenthreenet Wrote:
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> RE: Rolling Valley Mall Posted by: snowdenscold
> ()
> Date: July 01, 2010 12:00AM
>
>
> Does anyone know why this shopping center has
> always had so much trouble keeping stores? It
> seems there's been a constant churn (or just plain
> empty spots) since I can remember (late 80's). The
> inside was always depressing feeling.
>
> Conversation: I just did a search and found a
> REIT (real estate investment trust) named Combined
> Properties likely owns Rolling Valley Mall.
>
> The Haft Family is now long gone. Though the some
> Shoppers Food Marts are still here but not sure
> who now owns Shoppers. May be Combined Properties
> Inc ?
>
>
> Topic 02: Here are two pics I just found via
> Google Image Search. on Rolling Valley Mall.
>
>
> Can anyone else shed any light on Combined
> Properties or the neighborhood near Rolling Valley
> Mall or the Mall itself ?
>
>
> Cafe Twin

Sweet mother of mercy. Really? You can't figure, with all your internet skillz, who (a) owns the Shoppers Food Warehouse chain; and (b) who owns Combined Properties? Really?

Let me help: Ronnie Haft is still the CEO of Combined. Google the freakin' phrase "Combined Properties."

Let me help, again: Shoppers is owned by Supervalu; has been for years. Again, Google "Supervalu."

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: BEH ()
Date: May 21, 2013 02:39PM

Please excuse Waldenthreenet, hes trying to establish some kind of dodgy dialog for some mysterious reason.

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: waldenthreenet ()
Date: May 22, 2013 05:40PM

Combined Properties is the manager and not owner.

The owners for typical neighborhood shopping mall is a REIT , Real Estate Investement Trust.

We still don't know who is the real owner of this property. But will look to see if we can find.

Owner of the property can be involved in community need conversations, I think.

It may be possible to call Combined Properties to find out which REIT is the owner (REIT is a financial institution that is most often used to own such commercial properties as a neighborhood shopping mall as this one).

Cafe Twin

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Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: Skip ()
Date: February 03, 2014 05:21PM

The Dollar Store open up last year.The fitness place OneLife just open up and now you will fine it hard to fine a place to park, Tau Tau is still there and the best for Chineese food. Plus a NEW brick oven pizza place will be opening up. Things are looking up for this Mall who had problems in the past.

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Re: Rolling Valley Mall
Posted by: rotting produce at Shoppers ()
Date: February 04, 2014 05:53PM

Skip Wrote:
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> The Dollar Store open up last year.The fitness
> place OneLife just open up and now you will fine
> it hard to fine a place to park, Tau Tau is still
> there and the best for Chineese food. Plus a NEW
> brick oven pizza place will be opening up. Things
> are looking up for this Mall who had problems in
> the past.

The main problems the mall has are ignorant foreigners like you who patronize it every day.

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