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Organ Donation
Posted by:
donor?
()
Date: May 30, 2008 10:23PM
Here’s the situation . Soon, I’ll be having surgery at Fairfax Hospital. The DR suggested completing a living will / advanced directive.
All of the questions were easily answered except for the one involving organ donation. I’ve added a stipulation to the legal document….as follows:
"I am willing to donate my organs to anyone, any race or religion, however, the candidate for my organs, must provide a criminal background check which proves said recipient has no rap sheet of felonies in their history. Additionally, said recipient must provide evidence of their legal status in the US."
I realize this means several regular FU Gang members will fall into the first omitted category, but, I know, if one of you got really desperate…say for a LIVER...…you’d just go waste someone and you’d be all set!
Has anyone ever heard of this type of selective organ donation? And, if there is an attorney in the forum, any thoughts on the legality of such a statement?
Can I discriminate against career criminals with regards to donation of my organs? Just, think about it.
Bet this is a first…….since, I thought it up.
All of the questions were easily answered except for the one involving organ donation. I’ve added a stipulation to the legal document….as follows:
"I am willing to donate my organs to anyone, any race or religion, however, the candidate for my organs, must provide a criminal background check which proves said recipient has no rap sheet of felonies in their history. Additionally, said recipient must provide evidence of their legal status in the US."
I realize this means several regular FU Gang members will fall into the first omitted category, but, I know, if one of you got really desperate…say for a LIVER...…you’d just go waste someone and you’d be all set!
Has anyone ever heard of this type of selective organ donation? And, if there is an attorney in the forum, any thoughts on the legality of such a statement?
Can I discriminate against career criminals with regards to donation of my organs? Just, think about it.
Bet this is a first…….since, I thought it up.
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Posted by:
inkahootz
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Date: May 30, 2008 10:32PM
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/01/2010 11:35PM by inkahootz.
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Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
Gravis
()
Date: May 30, 2008 10:44PM
inkahootz is just mad because he doesnt qualify to get your liver.
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
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Posted by:
inkahootz
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Date: May 30, 2008 10:47PM
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Posted by:
inkahootz
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Date: May 30, 2008 10:52PM
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Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
theLEGEND
()
Date: May 30, 2008 10:56PM
inkahootz has a good point, except for immigrants, fuck em'
Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
thiskidwasbornalegend
()
Date: May 30, 2008 10:59PM
fuck you theLEGEND, what the fuck dont steal my name
Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
Gravis
()
Date: May 30, 2008 11:00PM
inkahootz Wrote:
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> BTW, I don't have any felonies dumbass, so I would
> qualify as per her specifications.
so you got your DUIs dropped to a misdemeanor?
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
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> BTW, I don't have any felonies dumbass, so I would
> qualify as per her specifications.
so you got your DUIs dropped to a misdemeanor?
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
Donor?
()
Date: May 30, 2008 11:13PM
inkahootz
A couple of DUI’s doesn’t qualify you as a career criminal .…..but, please, if you get my heart, just don’t smash it into a tree!!
A couple of DUI’s doesn’t qualify you as a career criminal .…..but, please, if you get my heart, just don’t smash it into a tree!!
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Posted by:
inkahootz
()
Date: May 31, 2008 12:41AM
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Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
John HOlmes
()
Date: May 31, 2008 01:19AM
I like this idea. Where do I donate my organ?
Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
Vince(1)
()
Date: May 31, 2008 08:54AM
Very stupid idea...imagine the precious time lost verifying all your stipulations. Of course that isnt the point is it? This is just another example of the hatred you hold. My suggestion...keep your organs to yourself..I wouldnt want to take any chance you could spread your tainted organs and opinions any further then possible.
Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
Gravis
()
Date: May 31, 2008 09:25AM
Vince(1) Wrote:
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> My suggestion...keep your organs to yourself..I
> wouldnt want to take any chance you could spread
> your tainted organs and opinions any further then
> possible.
sounds like someone failed biology.
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
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> My suggestion...keep your organs to yourself..I
> wouldnt want to take any chance you could spread
> your tainted organs and opinions any further then
> possible.
sounds like someone failed biology.
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
Donor?
()
Date: May 31, 2008 09:32AM
What timing……I googled transplant, gang, liver and the below news…….
Vince(1) …thoughts?
186 needy Americans died while some good doer schmucks livers went to gang members in Japan…do you think the dead person really wanted his/her liver to go to japan? To a notorious gang member???
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-me-ucla31-2008may31,0,7495360.story
Copied and pasted since link will die soon...
After livers, cash to UCLA
Japanese Goto received a life-saving liver transplant at UCLA Medical Center. Goto is one of Japan's most powerful gang bosses, which experts describe as vindictive and at times brutal. A Japanese mob boss and another man said to have gang ties each donated $100,000 after their transplants. The university said the gifts had absolutely no bearing on the surgeries.
By Charles Ornstein and John M. Glionna, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
May 31, 2008 »
A powerful Japanese gang boss who received a liver transplant at UCLA Medical Center donated $100,000 to the Westwood hospital shortly after the surgery, The Times has learned.
A plaque dated November 2001 at the entryway to a seventh-floor surgery office reads, "In grateful recognition of the Goto Research Fund established through the generosity of Mr. Tadamasa Goto."
UCLA confirmed the amount of the donation Friday. Law enforcement sources say Goto, 65, is the leader of the ruthless Goto-gumi gang. He received a transplant at UCLA in July 2001, The Times reported Thursday. He made his donation less than three months later.
UCLA also acknowledged that it received a separate $100,000 donation from another man who figured in Thursday's story. He donated in 2002, the year of his transplant.
The man was identified by a law enforcement official as one of four Japanese men now barred from entering the United States because of their suspected gang affiliations, criminal records, or both. All four received new livers at UCLA between 2000 and 2004, The Times reported.
The surgeries took place at a time of persistent shortages of donor livers. In the year of Goto's transplant, 186 patients on the list for livers died while waiting for the operation in the greater Los Angeles region.
U.S. transplant rules allow hospitals to provide organs to patients with criminal histories and to a limited number of foreign patients, but both topics have been controversial. News that UCLA had provided livers to foreigners barred from the country generated considerable comment Friday.
Vince(1) …thoughts?
186 needy Americans died while some good doer schmucks livers went to gang members in Japan…do you think the dead person really wanted his/her liver to go to japan? To a notorious gang member???
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-me-ucla31-2008may31,0,7495360.story
Copied and pasted since link will die soon...
After livers, cash to UCLA
Japanese Goto received a life-saving liver transplant at UCLA Medical Center. Goto is one of Japan's most powerful gang bosses, which experts describe as vindictive and at times brutal. A Japanese mob boss and another man said to have gang ties each donated $100,000 after their transplants. The university said the gifts had absolutely no bearing on the surgeries.
By Charles Ornstein and John M. Glionna, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
May 31, 2008 »
A powerful Japanese gang boss who received a liver transplant at UCLA Medical Center donated $100,000 to the Westwood hospital shortly after the surgery, The Times has learned.
A plaque dated November 2001 at the entryway to a seventh-floor surgery office reads, "In grateful recognition of the Goto Research Fund established through the generosity of Mr. Tadamasa Goto."
UCLA confirmed the amount of the donation Friday. Law enforcement sources say Goto, 65, is the leader of the ruthless Goto-gumi gang. He received a transplant at UCLA in July 2001, The Times reported Thursday. He made his donation less than three months later.
UCLA also acknowledged that it received a separate $100,000 donation from another man who figured in Thursday's story. He donated in 2002, the year of his transplant.
The man was identified by a law enforcement official as one of four Japanese men now barred from entering the United States because of their suspected gang affiliations, criminal records, or both. All four received new livers at UCLA between 2000 and 2004, The Times reported.
The surgeries took place at a time of persistent shortages of donor livers. In the year of Goto's transplant, 186 patients on the list for livers died while waiting for the operation in the greater Los Angeles region.
U.S. transplant rules allow hospitals to provide organs to patients with criminal histories and to a limited number of foreign patients, but both topics have been controversial. News that UCLA had provided livers to foreigners barred from the country generated considerable comment Friday.
Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
Fruppie
()
Date: May 31, 2008 10:40AM
Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Very stupid idea...imagine the precious time lost
> verifying all your stipulations. Of course that
> isnt the point is it? This is just another
> example of the hatred you hold. My
> suggestion...keep your organs to yourself..I
> wouldnt want to take any chance you could spread
> your tainted organs and opinions any further then
> possible.
You're stupid.
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> Very stupid idea...imagine the precious time lost
> verifying all your stipulations. Of course that
> isnt the point is it? This is just another
> example of the hatred you hold. My
> suggestion...keep your organs to yourself..I
> wouldnt want to take any chance you could spread
> your tainted organs and opinions any further then
> possible.
You're stupid.
Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
Radiophile
()
Date: May 31, 2008 10:58AM
You forgot to stipulate that no"children of illegals or felones". As the bible says, so it must be true, "both your sins and the sins of your fathers," says the Lord . "Because they burned sacrifices on the mountains and defied me on the hills, I will measure into their laps the full payment for their former deeds." Issiah 65:7
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Posted by:
Alias
()
Date: May 31, 2008 11:18AM
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/05/2012 01:59AM by Alias.
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Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
Donor?
()
Date: May 31, 2008 11:50AM
All I’m saying is I don’t want my organs going to some murdering rapist …...or illegal.
I don’t know why this type of stipulation cannot be implemented in a living will. Could you imagine knowing your family members heart has gone to Hannibal Lecter?
I don’t know why this type of stipulation cannot be implemented in a living will. Could you imagine knowing your family members heart has gone to Hannibal Lecter?
Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
John HOlmes
()
Date: May 31, 2008 01:17PM
Donor? Wrote:
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> All I’m saying is I don’t want my organs going to
> some murdering rapist …...or illegal.
>
> I don’t know why this type of stipulation cannot
> be implemented in a living will. Could you
> imagine knowing your family members heart has gone
> to Hannibal Lecter?
Or that your nutz went to Vince? He could use a pair.
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> All I’m saying is I don’t want my organs going to
> some murdering rapist …...or illegal.
>
> I don’t know why this type of stipulation cannot
> be implemented in a living will. Could you
> imagine knowing your family members heart has gone
> to Hannibal Lecter?
Or that your nutz went to Vince? He could use a pair.
Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
Vince(1)
()
Date: May 31, 2008 09:03PM
All of you are big talkers and small thinkers. Go right ahead and put your "stipulation" in your living will. The only effect it will have is to ensure your organs are thrown away with the rest of your trash.
Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
OrganDonor
()
Date: May 31, 2008 09:37PM
John Prine once wrote a song about organ donors. crank up the sound
and enjoy. (that is except Vince. he cant enjoy anything)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=52rqaQX2wn4&feature=related
and enjoy. (that is except Vince. he cant enjoy anything)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=52rqaQX2wn4&feature=related
Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
Vince(1)
()
Date: June 01, 2008 08:58AM
Great video...and certainly demonstrated no hatred of anyone.
Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
Dave
()
Date: June 01, 2008 09:07AM
Dear Donor?:
Why not just donate your organs to fellow organ donors? Criminals and illegal aliens usually aren't regsitered organ donors.
Anyone who wants to donate their organs to others who have agreed to donate theirs can join LifeSharers. LifeSharers is a non-profit network of organ donors who agree to offer their organs first to other organ donors when they die. Membership is free at www.lifesharers.org or by calling 1-888-ORGAN88. There is no age limit, parents can enroll their minor children, and no one is excluded due to any pre-existing medical condition.
LifeSharers members use directed donation to offer their organs first to fellow members. Directed donation as practiced by LifeSharers members is legal under federal law and under the laws of all 50 states.
David J. Undis
Executive Director
LifeSharers
www.lifesharers.org
Why not just donate your organs to fellow organ donors? Criminals and illegal aliens usually aren't regsitered organ donors.
Anyone who wants to donate their organs to others who have agreed to donate theirs can join LifeSharers. LifeSharers is a non-profit network of organ donors who agree to offer their organs first to other organ donors when they die. Membership is free at www.lifesharers.org or by calling 1-888-ORGAN88. There is no age limit, parents can enroll their minor children, and no one is excluded due to any pre-existing medical condition.
LifeSharers members use directed donation to offer their organs first to fellow members. Directed donation as practiced by LifeSharers members is legal under federal law and under the laws of all 50 states.
David J. Undis
Executive Director
LifeSharers
www.lifesharers.org
Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
Vince(1)
()
Date: June 01, 2008 12:15PM
Your web site is wonderfully inclusive in it's approach...I do think you should reconsider attaching your organization to a motive to exclude others. As one writer stated, today it's illegals and criminals....tomorrow (or was it yesterday) it is/was blacks and jews. You need to edit your response to reflect more the inclusiveness of your organization.
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Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
Gravis
()
Date: June 01, 2008 12:45PM
OrganDonor Wrote:
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> John Prine once wrote a song about organ donors.
> crank up the sound
> and enjoy. (that is except Vince. he cant enjoy
> anything)
LOL! it's so true, he cant enjoy anything.
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
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> John Prine once wrote a song about organ donors.
> crank up the sound
> and enjoy. (that is except Vince. he cant enjoy
> anything)
LOL! it's so true, he cant enjoy anything.
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
Donor?
()
Date: June 01, 2008 03:00PM
Dave,
Thank you for your informative posting. I shall look into your organization and will consider joining. It might well solve my current concern.
Please disregard any comments made by Vince (1). He has “issues”.
As a side note, if Vince (1) tries to become a member, would you please just pretend to “accept” his registration!
Thank you for your informative posting. I shall look into your organization and will consider joining. It might well solve my current concern.
Please disregard any comments made by Vince (1). He has “issues”.
As a side note, if Vince (1) tries to become a member, would you please just pretend to “accept” his registration!
Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
Vince(1)
()
Date: June 01, 2008 10:12PM
Dear Donor..you are a fool...his service provides you nothing you profess to want...just false exclusivity.
You and Gravis think very highly of yourselves to think you know how happy anyone other then yourselves are. Have you ever heard the saying you "reap what you sow"? Have either of you done anything but insult and intimidate people on here? You see yourselves better then illegals and criminals. If you are Christian...remember there was only one person Christ promised to save that day....a criminal! Not that I beleive that event ever occurred..but it does serve as a lesson...can you understand that lesson?
I am sure that as both of you grow up you will develop a means to express yourselves in a positive manner...at the moment neither of you seem able to express yourselves with anything but hate. Now that is sad.
You and Gravis think very highly of yourselves to think you know how happy anyone other then yourselves are. Have you ever heard the saying you "reap what you sow"? Have either of you done anything but insult and intimidate people on here? You see yourselves better then illegals and criminals. If you are Christian...remember there was only one person Christ promised to save that day....a criminal! Not that I beleive that event ever occurred..but it does serve as a lesson...can you understand that lesson?
I am sure that as both of you grow up you will develop a means to express yourselves in a positive manner...at the moment neither of you seem able to express yourselves with anything but hate. Now that is sad.
Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
Fruppie
()
Date: June 02, 2008 12:30AM
Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Dear Donor..you are a fool...his service provides
> you nothing you profess to want...just false
> exclusivity.
>
> You and Gravis think very highly of yourselves to
> think you know how happy anyone other then
> yourselves are. Have you ever heard the saying
> you "reap what you sow"? Have either of you done
> anything but insult and intimidate people on here?
> You see yourselves better then illegals and
> criminals. If you are Christian...remember there
> was only one person Christ promised to save that
> day....a criminal! Not that I beleive that event
> ever occurred..but it does serve as a lesson...can
> you understand that lesson?
>
> I am sure that as both of you grow up you will
> develop a means to express yourselves in a
> positive manner...at the moment neither of you
> seem able to express yourselves with anything but
> hate. Now that is sad.
You're stupid.
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> Dear Donor..you are a fool...his service provides
> you nothing you profess to want...just false
> exclusivity.
>
> You and Gravis think very highly of yourselves to
> think you know how happy anyone other then
> yourselves are. Have you ever heard the saying
> you "reap what you sow"? Have either of you done
> anything but insult and intimidate people on here?
> You see yourselves better then illegals and
> criminals. If you are Christian...remember there
> was only one person Christ promised to save that
> day....a criminal! Not that I beleive that event
> ever occurred..but it does serve as a lesson...can
> you understand that lesson?
>
> I am sure that as both of you grow up you will
> develop a means to express yourselves in a
> positive manner...at the moment neither of you
> seem able to express yourselves with anything but
> hate. Now that is sad.
You're stupid.
Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
496
()
Date: June 02, 2008 08:21AM
Someone donate an organ to the side of Vince's head.
Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
ITRADE
()
Date: June 02, 2008 10:18AM
Someone should consider donating some balls and a spleen to Vince - because its clear that he was born with neither of them attached...
Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
SRE
()
Date: June 02, 2008 12:35PM
I wouldn't mind getting a new (or only lightly used) liver. I have put some serious mileage on mine, and getting a nice upgrade would really help!
Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
Otis Campbell
()
Date: June 02, 2008 01:48PM
SRE Wrote:
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> I wouldn't mind getting a new (or only lightly
> used) liver. I have put some serious mileage on
> mine, and getting a nice upgrade would really
> help!
I'll swap my liver for your kidney's if they're in good shape.
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> I wouldn't mind getting a new (or only lightly
> used) liver. I have put some serious mileage on
> mine, and getting a nice upgrade would really
> help!
I'll swap my liver for your kidney's if they're in good shape.
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Posted by:
Alias
()
Date: June 02, 2008 05:40PM
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Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
Donor?
()
Date: June 02, 2008 06:35PM
If by some remote chance, Vince (1)’s larynx is transplanted into me and I start sounding like him, just push me off a cliff.
Re: Organ Donation
Posted by:
Gravis
()
Date: June 03, 2008 11:53AM
Donor? Wrote:
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> If by some remote chance, Vince (1)’s larynx is
> transplanted into me and I start sounding like
> him, just push me off a cliff.
LOL!
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
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> If by some remote chance, Vince (1)’s larynx is
> transplanted into me and I start sounding like
> him, just push me off a cliff.
LOL!
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."