I drove throu Annandale recently. From Markham to Annandale Road on 236 was littered with illegal day laborers.


The Koreans have done enough damage. How can we get these guys picked up ASAP and deported?


ANNANDALE HAS SUFFERED ENOUGH

Let's see...anti-Korean...anti-hispanic....writing under a new screen name! Sounds like half the white 20 something males on here. My advice...get over it...compete...get a job!

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Let's see...anti-Korean...anti-hispanic....writing
> under a new screen name! Sounds like half the
> white 20 something males on here.

No Vince, we've picked up one or two racist trolls lately. Ignore them and maybe they'll go back to Southern Virginia.

Edit: Hmmm, maybe that is a bit harsh on Southern Virginia.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/11/2008 07:19PM by Genevieve.

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Let's see...anti-Korean...anti-hispanic....writing
> under a new screen name! Sounds like half the
> white 20 something males on here. My advice...get
> over it...compete...get a job!

You're stupid.

Genevieve Wrote:
>>> No Vince, we've picked up one or two racist trolls lately.

I agree w/ Gen. But let's draw them out of the woodwork until they cross the line into ban-territory. We've done it before and it works.

It is possible for two reasons. One the housing market is slumped and many of these guys were employed there. Two Prince William county crackdown.

DEPORT*THEM Wrote:
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> I drove throu Annandale recently. From Markham to
> Annandale Road on 236 was littered with illegal
> day laborers.
>
> The Koreans have done enough damage. How can we
> get these guys picked up ASAP and deported?
>
> ANNANDALE HAS SUFFERED ENOUGH

I like being racist. It's much easier than thinking!

Bingo, Arlington is getting overrun too.

zeke Wrote:
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>Two Prince William county crackdown.

sorry to break your hearts....no one is beling "overrun"....

IT SEEMS THE TRUTH HURTS AND PEOPLE HAVE NO STANDARDS.


I find nothing racist about post.

..



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Vince(1) Wrote:
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> sorry to break your hearts....no one is beling
> "overrun"....


Contrast that with Northern Virginia, where the Spanish-speaking population is close to a majority in some neighborhoods and a growing number of officeholders are creating Hispanic advisory groups and looking for ways to finesse the immigration issue.

In the Fairfax County town of Herndon, where more than one-fourth of the residents are Hispanic, officials agonized for months last year over plans to build a community center for hundreds of Hispanic day-laborers, many of them in the United States illegally. After the center was approved, non-Hispanic voters turned out in droves and ousted the council - a reminder that while Hispanic numbers are growing, resentment and fear about Spanish-speaking immigrants remain politically potent.

Gasta?aga, a "Latino by marriage" whose husband is a painting contractor in Richmond, argues that such anti-immigrant victories are produced by a reflexive "fear of others" and are likely to generate a backlash that will be felt as Hispanic numbers grow.

Along Backlick Road from Springfield to Annandale, signs of Northern Virginia's explosive immigrant influx are unmistakable. At Brookfield Plaza, a strip mall just south of the Capital Beltway, La Hacienda Restaurant and Sports Bar sits alongside the Shri Krishna Grocery, which in turn sits alongside Food Corner II, where the menu's featured dishes are Afghan Kabobs and Peruvian Rotisserie Chicken.

Nearby, shoppers can meander from Esther's West African Fashions to the Dong Nam Vietnamese supermarket and then on to Nataraj Books and Gifts, an Indian bookstore. A mile or so up the street, the parking lot is almost always full at el Grande Supermercado, a superstore of Hispanic, Middle Eastern and Asian cuisine.

Similar pockets of international commerce have sprung up across Fairfax County and the rest of Northern Virginia in recent years. And no wonder: Roughly one-fourth of Northern Virginia's 2 million-plus residents are either Hispanic or Asian, according to federal estimates.

http://hamptonroads.com/node/159561

GROSS

WE have been over run. Drop on my pos,I repeat, drop on my pos. Its a lovely fucking war. Over and out.

THese vermin are destroying America, and you stinking pinko liberals are to blame as well. All you do is call everyone racist who loves thier culture and heritage and do not like seeing it trampled by millions of law breakers. We will deal with all of you soon, the economy is sinking and dark days are ahead. The law will bw to buzy cracking down on dissidents to protect you from the hands of people you betrayed!

Annandale was a lovely SAFE quiet town until the INVASION hit like a BlitzKrieg from Mexico. Illegal aliens have killed 48 thousand citizens since 9 11 01 and no one is outraged.
I ask this, why were 3000 deaths grounds to go to war, yet 48 thousand doesnt rate even securing the goddamn border?
I agree with Allan G, we are going to collapse soon, So everyone unarmed better get a good firearm and lots of bullets, the government isnt going to do shit except confinscate guns like they did after Katrina. they took all the firearms from citizens who were using them to protect their homes from the urban looters who fled New Orleans.They didnt do anything to protect us from this horror and dont count on them when it goes down to be your friend.

Allan G and Capt America love America so much they are willing to give up their freedom due to fear of 'illegals.'

Mofo Wrote:
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> Vince(1) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > sorry to break your hearts....no one is beling
> > "overrun"....
>
>
> Contrast that with Northern Virginia, where the
> Spanish-speaking population is close to a majority
> in some neighborhoods and a growing number of
> officeholders are creating Hispanic advisory
> groups and looking for ways to finesse the
> immigration issue.
>
> In the Fairfax County town of Herndon, where more
> than one-fourth of the residents are Hispanic,
> officials agonized for months last year over plans
> to build a community center for hundreds of
> Hispanic day-laborers, many of them in the United
> States illegally. After the center was approved,
> non-Hispanic voters turned out in droves and
> ousted the council - a reminder that while
> Hispanic numbers are growing, resentment and fear
> about Spanish-speaking immigrants remain
> politically potent.
>
> Gasta?aga, a "Latino by marriage" whose husband is
> a painting contractor in Richmond, argues that
> such anti-immigrant victories are produced by a
> reflexive "fear of others" and are likely to
> generate a backlash that will be felt as Hispanic
> numbers grow.
>
> Along Backlick Road from Springfield to Annandale,
> signs of Northern Virginia's explosive immigrant
> influx are unmistakable. At Brookfield Plaza, a
> strip mall just south of the Capital Beltway, La
> Hacienda Restaurant and Sports Bar sits alongside
> the Shri Krishna Grocery, which in turn sits
> alongside Food Corner II, where the menu's
> featured dishes are Afghan Kabobs and Peruvian
> Rotisserie Chicken.
>
> Nearby, shoppers can meander from Esther's West
> African Fashions to the Dong Nam Vietnamese
> supermarket and then on to Nataraj Books and
> Gifts, an Indian bookstore. A mile or so up the
> street, the parking lot is almost always full at
> el Grande Supermercado, a superstore of Hispanic,
> Middle Eastern and Asian cuisine.
>
> Similar pockets of international commerce have
> sprung up across Fairfax County and the rest of
> Northern Virginia in recent years. And no wonder:
> Roughly one-fourth of Northern Virginia's 2
> million-plus residents are either Hispanic or
> Asian, according to federal estimates.
>
> http://hamptonroads.com/node/159561

i can't believe all these posts about illegals. I thought that capitalism was alive and well in american. The problem my friends is not illegal immigration; rather its an employment problem. not enough whites, italians, irish, englishmen, working the fields picking cotton, paving roads, erecting building structures. What are they doing? The real problem is not with the illegals but with the international corporations that have decided that the chinese and the indians should produce many of our goods and services. What to solve that problem? build factories in america and you will have work for all.

dope Wrote:
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> i can't believe all these posts about illegals. I
> thought that capitalism was alive and well in
> american. The problem my friends is not illegal
> immigration; rather its an employment problem. not
> enough whites, italians, irish, englishmen,
> working the fields picking cotton, paving roads,
> erecting building structures. What are they
> doing? The real problem is not with the illegals
> but with the international corporations that have
> decided that the chinese and the indians should
> produce many of our goods and services. What to
> solve that problem? build factories in america
> and you will have work for all.


You're stupid.

Let them go to China

So what has to be done in order for the authorities to take notice and why isn't anything done when they are openly standing around ?
Im getting a little sick of this shit too, I don't mind the will to work and the jobs that they acquire(illegally) but it bugs the shit out of me when they start commiting crimes. Just this year there were 3 hit and runs in that very same area and yes I know they are hispanics, because its cheaper to run over a person then to get deported for them.

Earlier this year I was coming back home late at night. I was the first one at the traffic light waiting for the signal to turn green when I heard a loud smash behind me. A large suv crashed in the back of a corolla and came around flying around me and threw the red light. I decided to follow the car and they were desperately trying to lose me. Having a much faster car I was able to catch up to them. They were still trying to lose me by slamming their brakes in hopes that I rear end them, once again better car. I somehow ended up cornering them in an apartment complex parking lot with single entrance. Three guys, very angry, came out of the car yelling and screaming at me , threatening to kill me and trying to pick a fight. I wasted no time going for the 12 gauge in the trunk of my car and all of the sudden the macho drunks became very friendly and the nicest guys in the world, telling me how sorry they are. I ended up calling the cops and they got arrested and released the next day, how do I know? I saw them in their shtty smashed up pathfinder the very next day. The cops(both state and county came out) told me that they were illegal and thank me for extreme measures to help the victim of the hit and run but yet nothing further was done about. A lawyer representing the victim called me and got my story to settle the damages. Why in the fuck was nothing done about this when they had clear proof that they were illegal???????

Oh the only good that came out of this story is that the girl that got hit got full settlement for the damages and I got a call from chief of Fairfax police later on that week thanking me and I was given a personal letter of recommendation which I think helped me get my new job but why is that when all the necessary proof is literally handed to the police, they do absolutely nothing to take measures???

You're a regular fuckin' Charles Bronson.

Thanks for keeping our streets safe!

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> You're a regular fuckin' Charles Bronson.
>
> Thanks for keeping our streets safe!


yet another 60s reference. My point is why isnt anything done about it?

Because we need and love our illegals.

native/ Wrote:
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> yet another 60s reference. My point is why isnt
> anything done about it?


because politicians are worthless sacks of shit.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

native/ Wrote:
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> So what has to be done in order for the
> authorities to take notice and why isn't anything
> done when they are openly standing around ?
> Im getting a little sick of this shit too, I don't
> mind the will to work and the jobs that they
> acquire(illegally) but it bugs the shit out of me
> when they start commiting crimes. Just this year
> there were 3 hit and runs in that very same area
> and yes I know they are hispanics, because its
> cheaper to run over a person then to get deported
> for them.
>
> Earlier this year I was coming back home late at
> night. I was the first one at the traffic light
> waiting for the signal to turn green when I heard
> a loud smash behind me. A large suv crashed in the
> back of a corolla and came around flying around
> me and threw the red light. I decided to follow
> the car and they were desperately trying to lose
> me. Having a much faster car I was able to catch
> up to them. They were still trying to lose me by
> slamming their brakes in hopes that I rear end
> them, once again better car. I somehow ended up
> cornering them in an apartment complex parking lot
> with single entrance. Three guys, very angry, came
> out of the car yelling and screaming at me ,
> threatening to kill me and trying to pick a fight.
> I wasted no time going for the 12 gauge in the
> trunk of my car and all of the sudden the macho
> drunks became very friendly and the nicest guys in
> the world, telling me how sorry they are. I ended
> up calling the cops and they got arrested and
> released the next day, how do I know? I saw them
> in their shtty smashed up pathfinder the very next
> day. The cops(both state and county came out) told
> me that they were illegal and thank me for extreme
> measures to help the victim of the hit and run but
> yet nothing further was done about. A lawyer
> representing the victim called me and got my story
> to settle the damages. Why in the fuck was nothing
> done about this when they had clear proof that
> they were illegal???????

But they are what politicians and the media like to call WORKERS! WTF do they think other people do? not work?

Once again, Native is involved in a life changing event. Fascinating!

496 Wrote:
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> Once again, Native is involved in a life changing
> event. Fascinating!


why, does it bother you? Come down and try to live in Annandale, its an adventure every day.

I have never seen one hispanic person in Annandale...

Annandale ain't what it used to be and I don't like the gang graffiti, public pissing and loitering...

Most of the latinos are hardowrkers though many do undercut with low prices because they have lower expenses (sleep 5 to an apt.) and are hungrier than American kids who think physical labor is beneath them and refuse to push lawnmowers or do construction labor.

Look at inner city DC where the taxi companies are run by foreigners because the locals won't go into that enterprise. As long as suburban youth prefer Blockbuster and Starbucks jobs to skilled trades that make you sweat a little, we'll always depend on "imports".....

60's reference? You're a moron, the Death Wish movies started in the 70's and spanned all the way to the 90's iirc.

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Because we need and love our illegals.

Vince, you are an IDIOT!

Just out of curiosity-where were you born?

I'll bet there won't be any compalints if there are hundreds of hot hookers
walking up and down Little River Turnpike in Annandale.

Just a thought....

ok how can you compare koreans to spanish people? the spics are standing around doing shit...while the koreans jewed up and save enough money to open businesses...you idiot..

monkeys Wrote:
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> ok how can you compare koreans to spanish people?
> the spics are standing around doing shit...while
> the koreans jewed up and save enough money to open
> businesses...you idiot..

exactly. the Hispanics do nothing to enrich this area.

The Koreans provide good food and good services,
and the hot pretty Korean ladies take care of us guys.

I have to agree with this thread.

I moved in 1999...this place was awesome then. I came back in 2005, and what the hell happened? Where did Capone music go? Why can't I eat fast food in town anymore? But...if I wanted some Korean BBQ, not a problem, there are more than enough places to choose from. What about driving in Annandale?

Driving through Annandale was part of the reason why I left in the first place, my dad couldn't stand it any more. I came back and holy crap, what happened? I see people almost collide more than once a day, because some (usually an Asian woman, driving a Toyota) doing something absolutely retarded on the road, such as backing out into traffic on 236, out of a parking lot...into oncoming traffic. This has happened to myself more than once in the past month, and it's never been the same parking lot.

I don't understand how people can stand this. It has become a bit ridiculous.

It's not true that hispanics have added nothing...they built my deck...they replaced my roof, every board was replaced and shingles put on in a single day...I love their little stores where I can buy the most delicious chorizos...they probably cut your lawn. They do all this without whining,,,they pay taxes and would love to pay more taxes.

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> It's not true that hispanics have added
> nothing...they built my deck...they replaced my
> roof, every board was replaced and shingles put on
> in a single day...I love their little stores where
> I can buy the most delicious chorizos...they
> probably cut your lawn. They do all this without
> whining,,,they pay taxes and would love to pay
> more taxes.

And... Dont forget all those names they add to the Arrest/Ticket Search.

Vince-Why won't you answer my question?

Where were you born?

who gives a fuck where vince was born

I was born in the good old U.S. of A. But I agree with Mr. RESton...who the heck cares?

Maybe knowing where he was born would explain his passion, however ignorant it may be, for the illegals. Maybe his parents are illegals. I am just trying to understand why he is so passionate for them when the cons outway the pros.

well...I think it is debateable that the cons outweigh the pros. For hundreds of years one of the major driving force of the Amerikan economy and culture has been our immigrants. And during that time they have always been scapegoats. I think that very little has changed over that course of time.

I am not alone in this opinion....

http://www.anla.org/applications/PressReleases/releases/0118.htm

As far as the issue of illegals goes...I beleive they come here for a couple of reasons...the vast majority (80%), to work hard and to work honestly) and there must be a need or there wouldnt be jobs for them to fill. 15% come here to fill the never ending Amerikan thirst for mind altering drugs. I would suggest we legalize the majority of these drugs thus eliminating this reason to illegally immigrate....5% come here to take advantage of us in any way they can. I admit all my percentages are just my opinion.

As for why i take the issue so personally....well for one reason, one of my great-grandfathers was an illegal...escaping Europe at the turn of the century to escape being drafted into the Austro-Hungarian Army. I believe 90% of us have similar tales in their ancestry if they ever bothered to do the research. There's a reason the Statue of Liberty reads something along the lines of... Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me. I lift my lamp beside the golden door... and it isnt to attract the world's finest citizens.

That sign on the Statue of Liberty is in need of some serious editing. Perhaps something as simple as replacing the "Give me your tired" to "Take back your tired" as well as "Stay the F*ck Out!" ...... filthy parasites.

DCON Wrote:
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> That sign on the Statue of Liberty is in need of
> some serious editing. Perhaps something as simple
> as replacing the "Give me your tired" to "Take
> back your tired" as well as "Stay the F*ck Out!"
> ...... filthy parasites.

Well! I guess the American experiment has died in utter failure. Its now every dog for himself.

There is nothing wrong with legal immigration. We just need the right #
and kind of immigrants. It took me a very long time to become legal
res. that is why I resent those who come here illegally and receive green
cards easily. Everyone needs to go through the process.

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> DCON Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > That sign on the Statue of Liberty is in need
> of
> > some serious editing. Perhaps something as
> simple
> > as replacing the "Give me your tired" to "Take
> > back your tired" as well as "Stay the F*ck
> Out!"
> > ...... filthy parasites.
>
> Well! I guess the American experiment has died in
> utter failure. Its now every dog for himself.
That's why we need English speaking, educated immigrants from anywhere
to help offset this dumbing of our belobed good ole U. S Of A.

Good immigrants are the key to American prosperity. We are willing to do
things that American born citizens will not do.

Let's all remember this is an election year. When you come to this country,
you must obey its laws. America is still the most tolerant nation on
the face of the earth. THere's none better.

I agree...and 90% of my commnts are not addresses to the current policies of the USA..but to the comments left on here by folks.

DCON Wrote:
>> That sign on the Statue of Liberty is in need of some serious editing. "Take back your tired" as well as "Stay the F*ck Out!"..... filthy parasites.

Yeah, our best bet is to abandon our country's principles and adhere to the dumbed-down conformist beliefs of white trash like DCON.

Who could think of a better plan than that!

You fucking coward.

I love it when people complain about immigrants taking their jobs and how America is going down because of them. Blame yourselves and only yourselves. You idiots dont understand a damn thing about business and how to make money while immigrants do. They are the ones who are opening businesses, doing things on their own and watching how they spend their money. In the end, the "immigrants" will be the ones that will be part of the upper class and you lowlife wal-mart lovers will still be on this forum posting your frustrations. Everytime you step into a starbucks, a walmart or cvs, remember that you are contributing to your own loss. This is why us "immigrants" will eventually take over and send you punks packing to the south. LOL have a nice day

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> the major driving force of the Amerikan economy

ok, fuck you. say what you want about political forces but when you refer to the american people as a whole in a demeaning manner, you insult the united states and for which it stands.



"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Gravis the patriot...WTF???????

New Age America Wrote:
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> I love it when people complain about immigrants
> taking their jobs and how America is going down
> because of them. Blame yourselves and only
> yourselves. You idiots dont understand a damn
> thing about business and how to make money while
> immigrants do. They are the ones who are opening
> businesses, doing things on their own and watching
> how they spend their money. In the end, the
> "immigrants" will be the ones that will be part of
> the upper class and you lowlife wal-mart lovers
> will still be on this forum posting your
> frustrations. Everytime you step into a starbucks,
> a walmart or cvs, remember that you are
> contributing to your own loss. This is why us
> "immigrants" will eventually take over and send
> you punks packing to the south. LOL have a nice
> day


It's not the ones that are working and trying to better themselves people are bitching about. It's the ones that hang out in front of 7-11 and get picked up 2-3 times a week with NFA that are a burden on society.

Vince-when your great grandfather came here he busted his ass and worked and did not cause problems. We need to starting deporting the habitual offenders.

My grandfather fled Europe too. He came here GOT a JOB and a HOUSE and then started a family. I don't think most have a problem with LEGAL immagrants, just the ones that are burdens.

SOUTH Arlington
CULMORE
7 Corners
Wilston Center
Those are all 3rd world countries in within Northern Va. They are not that
different South Side CHICAGO, Mexico. Haiti, Darfour, Detroit, East L A,
or Zimbabwe. America is fast becoming a third world dominated nation. We
need immigration reform: Educated, no criminal record, English speaking,
young, hard working, good looking, desease free immigrants.

'Good looking' requirements? LOL, I can't see that happening. BTW, it's 'in' or 'within', not both.

DEPORT*THEM Wrote:
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> I drove throu Annandale recently. From Markham to
> Annandale Road on 236 was littered with illegal
> day laborers.
>
>
> The Koreans have done enough damage. How can we
> get these guys picked up ASAP and deported?
>
>
> ANNANDALE HAS SUFFERED ENOUGH



Wow.

Jackie-O! Wrote:
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> New Age America Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I love it when people complain about immigrants
> > taking their jobs and how America is going down
> > because of them. Blame yourselves and only
> > yourselves. You idiots dont understand a damn
> > thing about business and how to make money
> while
> > immigrants do. They are the ones who are
> opening
> > businesses, doing things on their own and
> watching
> > how they spend their money. In the end, the
> > "immigrants" will be the ones that will be part
> of
> > the upper class and you lowlife wal-mart lovers
> > will still be on this forum posting your
> > frustrations. Everytime you step into a
> starbucks,
> > a walmart or cvs, remember that you are
> > contributing to your own loss. This is why us
> > "immigrants" will eventually take over and send
> > you punks packing to the south. LOL have a nice
> > day
>
>
> It's not the ones that are working and trying to
> better themselves people are bitching about. It's
> the ones that hang out in front of 7-11 and get
> picked up 2-3 times a week with NFA that are a
> burden on society.
>
> Vince-when your great grandfather came here he
> busted his ass and worked and did not cause
> problems. We need to starting deporting the
> habitual offenders.
>
> My grandfather fled Europe too. He came here GOT
> a JOB and a HOUSE and then started a family. I
> don't think most have a problem with LEGAL
> immagrants, just the ones that are burdens.


Offenders...now we are are talking about law offendors or people who just happen to offend your values. If we are talking about violent crime offenders...I agree with you.

Gravis Wrote:
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> Vince(1) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > the major driving force of the Amerikan economy
>
> ok, fuck you. say what you want about political
> forces but when you refer to the american people
> as a whole in a demeaning manner, you insult the
> united states and for which it stands.
>
> FUCK YOU.


DEXTER!!!!! I'm so proud of you...you can pretend to have feelings! Very good...keep up the good work!

New Age America Wrote:
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> I love it when people complain about immigrants
> taking their jobs and how America is going down
> because of them. Blame yourselves and only
> yourselves. You idiots dont understand a damn
> thing about business and how to make money while
> immigrants do. They are the ones who are opening
> businesses, doing things on their own and watching
> how they spend their money. In the end, the
> "immigrants" will be the ones that will be part of
> the upper class and you lowlife wal-mart lovers
> will still be on this forum posting your
> frustrations. Everytime you step into a starbucks,
> a walmart or cvs, remember that you are
> contributing to your own loss. This is why us
> "immigrants" will eventually take over and send
> you punks packing to the south. LOL have a nice
> day


EXACTLY! They sit around and complain and whining on here instead of getting out there and working. By the way...this is the way it's always been..immigrants always are the fastest economically growing group anytime..any where...if for no other reason, they start with so little

http://www.examiner.com/a-1443218~Washington_area_police_report_wave_of_burglaries__cite_illegal_immigrants.html

Well that article although it led with the police saying illegals are responsible for a crime wave gave a semi balanced response from others. Needless to say I do not thnk there are many people who would disagree with deporting any illegal involved in a breaking and entry into a home. But I do not agree with the demonizing of these people because of the stupidity of a few.

Vince(1) Wrote:
>> I do not thnk there are many people who would disagree with deporting any illegal involved in a breaking and entry


Well I would certainly disagree with just deporting someone after they committed a crime. That is not punishment. That is basically letting them off scot-free with a free ride back to their homeland. It's almost like rewarding them. Send their ass to jail first, with an extended sentence for being here illegally. Then deport them, with the provision that if they ever return to the US, they will be jailed again immediately.

I think the idea of just automatically deporting them is crazy.

Well...I did ass-u-me we still live in a country where we are innocent until proven guilty...so yes, i agree with your point.

LOL Spain - We'll pay you to get the f out of our country!

Spain will pay unemployed migrant workers to leave
The incentive program marks a shift in Spain's lenient immigration policies.
By Lisa Abend and Geoff Pingree
from the June 20, 2008 edition

Correspondent Geoff Pingree talks about Spain's plan to pay immigrant workers to go home.Europe ratchets up its pressure on immigrants
The E.U. voted to allow longer detentions for illegals and to standardize deportation rules.

Madrid - Just a year ago, the Spanish government was contracting workers in countries like Ecuador and Morocco to fill jobs in its booming economy. Now it has adopted a new measure designed to entice those same immigrants to go home. As Spain suffers from the world economic crisis, it is losing more and more jobs, and the new proposal seeks to offer unemployment compensation to out-of-work migrants who leave.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0620/p12s01-woeu.html

It's actually re-God-Damn-Dickulous, the amount of hispanic males that stand out on that strip of 236 every day. I'm talking 50-75+ ! Everyday. Don't even think about driving a truck up to the 7-11 to buy a freagin Big Gulp! You'll have 8 of them chasing you into the parking lot wanting work, and trying to jump in yo ride!

And oh by the way, they DONT pay freagin taxes! What money they do make, honest or not, leave the US and goes back South of the Border. Most that I come across at work use FAKE social security numbers...and then I get to FIRE them.

The laws are on their side. There's plenty of $$$$ to be made.
Why would anyone stay away from America? It is still the best county
on the planet. I'm very proud of it.

DirtDigler Wrote:
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> DEPORT*THEM Wrote:
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> -----
> > I drove throu Annandale recently. From Markham
> to
> > Annandale Road on 236 was littered with illegal
> > day laborers.
> >
> >
> > The Koreans have done enough damage. How can we
> > get these guys picked up ASAP and deported?
> >
> >
> > ANNANDALE HAS SUFFERED ENOUGH
>
>
>
> Wow.

Koreans love $$$America.

Jo Momma Wrote:
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> It's actually re-God-Damn-Dickulous, the amount of
> hispanic males that stand out on that strip of 236
> every day. I'm talking 50-75+ ! Everyday.
> Don't even think about driving a truck up to the
> 7-11 to buy a freagin Big Gulp! You'll have 8 of
> them chasing you into the parking lot wanting
> work, and trying to jump in yo ride!
>
> And oh by the way, they DONT pay freagin taxes!
> What money they do make, honest or not, leave the
> US and goes back South of the Border. Most that I
> come across at work use FAKE social security
> numbers...and then I get to FIRE them.


so true, I had a rental truck once and I was being stared down the whole time while in the area.

Jo momma sounds like a racist, but having hired day laborers in the past, that's exactly how it goes...you show up in a truck and guys chase you to get in... if you've been there before and have a rep as someone who pays out at the end of the day and just wants to do biz, then this effect is at least tripled.

Most other countries are highly selective about whom they allow to live in their country. Nothing wrong with us doing it to.

If there were some kind of free immigration deal that works like NAFTA, I might be able to see allowing any old fool into our fine land.

NAFTA: http://www.fas.usda.gov/itp/Policy/NAFTA/nafta.asp


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

My former professor was chief of police for Fairfax County. He said that the Koreans CLEANED UP Annandale...and that is the truth!

Centreville Citizen Wrote:
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> My former professor was chief of police for
> Fairfax County. He said that the Koreans CLEANED
> UP Annandale...and that is the truth!


Annandale cleaned up, didn't take long to litter again!

Until the Koreans came, eating out in Annandale was a big bore. They have brought life and vibrancy to Annandale's once moribund city center.
-Ms. Liz



Mofo Wrote:
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> Vince(1) Wrote:
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> -----
> > sorry to break your hearts....no one is beling
> > "overrun"....
>
>
> Contrast that with Northern Virginia, where the
> Spanish-speaking population is close to a majority
> in some neighborhoods and a growing number of
> officeholders are creating Hispanic advisory
> groups and looking for ways to finesse the
> immigration issue.
>
> In the Fairfax County town of Herndon, where more
> than one-fourth of the residents are Hispanic,
> officials agonized for months last year over plans
> to build a community center for hundreds of
> Hispanic day-laborers, many of them in the United
> States illegally. After the center was approved,
> non-Hispanic voters turned out in droves and
> ousted the council - a reminder that while
> Hispanic numbers are growing, resentment and fear
> about Spanish-speaking immigrants remain
> politically potent.
>
> Gasta?aga, a "Latino by marriage" whose husband is
> a painting contractor in Richmond, argues that
> such anti-immigrant victories are produced by a
> reflexive "fear of others" and are likely to
> generate a backlash that will be felt as Hispanic
> numbers grow.
>
> Along Backlick Road from Springfield to Annandale,
> signs of Northern Virginia's explosive immigrant
> influx are unmistakable. At Brookfield Plaza, a
> strip mall just south of the Capital Beltway, La
> Hacienda Restaurant and Sports Bar sits alongside
> the Shri Krishna Grocery, which in turn sits
> alongside Food Corner II, where the menu's
> featured dishes are Afghan Kabobs and Peruvian
> Rotisserie Chicken.
>
> Nearby, shoppers can meander from Esther's West
> African Fashions to the Dong Nam Vietnamese
> supermarket and then on to Nataraj Books and
> Gifts, an Indian bookstore. A mile or so up the
> street, the parking lot is almost always full at
> el Grande Supermercado, a superstore of Hispanic,
> Middle Eastern and Asian cuisine.
>
> Similar pockets of international commerce have
> sprung up across Fairfax County and the rest of
> Northern Virginia in recent years. And no wonder:
> Roughly one-fourth of Northern Virginia's 2
> million-plus residents are either Hispanic or
> Asian, according to federal estimates.
>
> http://hamptonroads.com/node/159561

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> well...I think it is debateable that the cons
> outweigh the pros. For hundreds of years one of
> the major driving force of the Amerikan economy
> and culture has been our immigrants. And during
> that time they have always been scapegoats. I
> think that very little has changed over that
> course of time.

Those were legal immigrants, and pretty much everyone
is pro-immigration. It's the massive number of people
who have entered the country illegally that we're upset about.

MsLiz Wrote:
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> Until the Koreans came, eating out in Annandale was a big bore.

I lived in Annandale for about 20 years back in the day,
and probably the most exciting dining was Shakeys Pizza.

The Koreans starting coming in the 1970s, by the way.
Everyone acts like this happened overnight.

This insane explosion of unassimilatable illegals was exacerbated by G.W. Bush. Think back to how it was before that putz was elected. He's ruined this country in countless ways.

Such as? Are you implying that Americans feel some kind of entitlement that others don't? What are the foreigners willing to do that citizens of the United States will not do?


ForeignBorn Wrote:
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> Good immigrants are the key to American
> prosperity. We are willing to do
> things that American born citizens will not do.

Spacy Wrote:
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> MsLiz Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Until the Koreans came, eating out in Annandale
> was a big bore.
>
> I lived in Annandale for about 20 years back in
> the day,
> and probably the most exciting dining was Shakeys
> Pizza.
>
> The Koreans starting coming in the 1970s, by the
> way.
> Everyone acts like this happened overnight.


Fritzbe's was pretty good.

Are you implying that Americans feel some kind of entitlement that others don't?

What a stupid fucking question! Of course native born Americans have entitlements that immigrants, especially illegals, don't. Try going to a foreign country and see what rights you have. You are too stupid to know how stupid you are.

Yeah but you whine about doing those things the whole time. And you are not very good at the things you do. And you smell while doing them. So really it's just not worth it to us. So if you could please pack it up and buh-bye.

INS Wrote:
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> Yeah but you whine about doing those things the
> whole time. And you are not very good at the
> things you do. And you smell while doing them. So
> really it's just not worth it to us. So if you
> could please pack it up and buh-bye.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

So, how does one pick up a day laborer and explain to him/her the tasks you need completed if you only speak conversational Spanish?

By the way, this forum has been quite entertaining.

What the hell are you talking about. I am very concerned with this as well as this is where I DO WORK LEGALLY! These illegals are completely scary just standinga all around. You can't even get into the parking lots b/c they are all standing in the way. At the bank, they are standing all around, you have to wonder if you will be robbed when coming out with your hard earned money. I had one bust a full beer bottle of my head and try to wrestle me into my car. Thank God someone came to my rescue. They take away jobs from people who are legal and pay taxes, and I know from experience that they send their money back to their country. I worked at a Western Union before finishing college. How does this help our economic situation?

tubby Wrote:
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> Spacy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > MsLiz Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Until the Koreans came, eating out in
> Annandale
> > was a big bore.
> >
> > I lived in Annandale for about 20 years back in
> > the day,
> > and probably the most exciting dining was
> Shakeys
> > Pizza.
> >
> > The Koreans starting coming in the 1970s, by
> the
> > way.
> > Everyone acts like this happened overnight.
>
>
> Fritzbe's was pretty good.

THere wasn't anywhere in VA worth eating 20 years ago, let alone 30 years ago. You had to go to DC to get a decent restaurant, and even that was pretty rare.

I have complained about this for over a YEAR you know what the Fairfax County Police told me?

FREEDOM of SPEECH, and Nothing they could do to THEM, that this was the USA and the day labors were not harming anyone.

I laughed I said I cannot even go to the 7-11 there off of 236 because of the looks, and remarks I get, they are all Cluttered there dropping there trash, hanging out on the apartments property, Hanging at the McDonalds, I mean IT IS BAD. Do you think Farifax COunty Police CARE NO>
They even hang out in the laundry rooms at the apartments at night.

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> It's not true that hispanics have added
> nothing...they built my deck...they replaced my
> roof, every board was replaced and shingles put on
> in a single day...I love their little stores where
> I can buy the most delicious chorizos...they
> probably cut your lawn. They do all this without
> whining,,,they pay taxes and would love to pay
> more taxes.

Ah, now we see the cleare Vince emerge. As long as he can exploit the desperately poor illegals, we should all have to pay the price in increased crime, taxes and an societal failure.

As long as Vince gets a cheap new deck!

noVAperson Wrote:
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> So, how does one pick up a day laborer and explain
> to him/her the tasks you need completed if you
> only speak conversational Spanish?

And explain that you want a cheap deck like Vince's, but no robbery or rape today, thank you!

The vast majority of illiegals work hard and stay out of trouble. Maybe if we concentrated our law enforcemnt officials on exporting the criminal element rather then the hard working illegal immigrant society we'd all be better off.

I see no more increased crime, taxes and an societal failure due to illegals then any other group of immigrants on long time citizen residents. The biggest disruption in our lives has been the wall street/real estate fiasco...and only true republikan idealogues would even try and blame that on illegals. Great amerikan patriots are responsible for the mess we are in.

Rape and robbery...do you all truly live in such fear? Must be terrible to be you.

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> The vast majority of illiegals work hard and stay
> out of trouble. Maybe if we concentrated our law
> enforcemnt officials on exporting the criminal
> element rather then the hard working illegal
> immigrant society we'd all be better off.

** That is fine with me. All illegals are criminals prima facie.


> I see no more increased crime, taxes and an
> societal failure due to illegals then any other
> group of immigrants on long time citizen
> residents.

Then you don't read enough. Rand did a great study on the cost of each illegal over a decade ago: $20K annually *net* (after their taxes). Lots of similar crime stats. Read, learn, the world has much to offer you, Vince. Beyond a cheap deck.


The biggest disruption in our lives
> has been the wall street/real estate fiasco...and
> only true republikan idealogues would even try and
> blame that on illegals. Great amerikan patriots
> are responsible for the mess we are in.
>
> Rape and robbery...do you all truly live in such
> fear? Must be terrible to be you.

I for one am not afraid. I just wish our government would meet its obligations and punish the criminal illegals (which is all of them).

Frank...do you really live in such a black and white world...that all criminals are criminals? You certainly are GWB republican if you do. There are violent crimes...non-violent crimes...there's the person who is hungry that steals a loaf of bread...and there's the arsonist who burns down the bread factory. If you cant differentiate between the severity of these crimes..and ths the criminals well....I think you are intentioanlly playing dumb just to make a point. No one can be that dumb!

Rand...I know Rand...worked with them for years...Id need to know who paid that Rand to perform the study before I gave it any creedance.

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> well...I think it is debateable that the cons
> outweigh the pros. For hundreds of years one of
> the major driving force of the Amerikan economy
> and culture has been our immigrants. And during
> that time they have always been scapegoats. I
> think that very little has changed over that
> course of time.
>
> I am not alone in this opinion....
>
> http://www.anla.org/applications/PressReleases/rel
> eases/0118.htm
>
> As far as the issue of illegals goes...I beleive
> they come here for a couple of reasons...the vast
> majority (80%), to work hard and to work honestly)
> and there must be a need or there wouldnt be jobs
> for them to fill. 15% come here to fill the never
> ending Amerikan thirst for mind altering drugs. I
> would suggest we legalize the majority of these
> drugs thus eliminating this reason to illegally
> immigrate....5% come here to take advantage of us
> in any way they can. I admit all my percentages
> are just my opinion.

i love how you pulled bull shit percentages out of your ass... where is the poll you got your statistics from.... and how/why would an illegal resident respond to it?

"I admit all my percentages
> are just my opinion."

oh... thats where... well heres some personal statistics i have for you ... 99% of illegal immigrants are criminals, and 1% are drug dealers.. see i can pull shit out of my ass to support my claims too.

I think the illegal day laborers add some much needed culture to Annandale

Yes if by culture you mean riding lawn mowers than yes, they add more culture.

asshat Wrote:
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> Vince(1) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > well...I think it is debateable that the cons
> > outweigh the pros. For hundreds of years one
> of
> > the major driving force of the Amerikan economy
> > and culture has been our immigrants. And
> during
> > that time they have always been scapegoats. I
> > think that very little has changed over that
> > course of time.
> >
> > I am not alone in this opinion....
> >
> >
> http://www.anla.org/applications/PressReleases/rel
>
> > eases/0118.htm
> >
> > As far as the issue of illegals goes...I
> beleive
> > they come here for a couple of reasons...the
> vast
> > majority (80%), to work hard and to work
> honestly)
> > and there must be a need or there wouldnt be
> jobs
> > for them to fill. 15% come here to fill the
> never
> > ending Amerikan thirst for mind altering drugs.
> I
> > would suggest we legalize the majority of these
> > drugs thus eliminating this reason to illegally
> > immigrate....5% come here to take advantage of
> us
> > in any way they can. I admit all my
> percentages
> > are just my opinion.
>
> i love how you pulled bull shit percentages out of
> your ass... where is the poll you got your
> statistics from.... and how/why would an illegal
> resident respond to it?
>
> "I admit all my percentages
> > are just my opinion."
>
> oh... thats where... well heres some personal
> statistics i have for you ... 99% of illegal
> immigrants are criminals, and 1% are drug
> dealers.. see i can pull shit out of my ass to
> support my claims too.

The difference is after hours and hours of research you would find your statistics wrong...and mine true. So feel free to do all the research you want. ANd do you know how I know Im right...because people are people...illegals are no different then you me..or your grandmother!



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