I like Korean food. But I have noticed a pattern - we get different service because we are non-Korean. My husband thought I was crazy.

But the places we have gone to - Sushi/Sashimi in Centreville (next to IHOP)

SHO CHIkU - next to Grandmart

Soon WAN Galbi next to Trader Joes

and Cho's Garden

All seem to serve us better when we are with Koreans?

Am I just imagining things or have others experienced the same problem?

We have had great luck at Matsu Sushi on Stone Road on Centreville. They are Korean, and we are not.... we have received some of the best restaurant service ever from that place and 5 star sushi, too.

I have never eaten at the others, but my Korean experience at Matsu has been great.

Korean for sushi?

Just yell this at the service staff at these restaurants:

"Yia! She-Baahl Sche-Ki!"

"Jaa-Jee Boh-Jee"

EMERIL Wrote:
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> Soon WAN Galbi next to Trader Joes
>
> and Cho's Garden
>
> All seem to serve us better when we are with
> Koreans?
>
> Am I just imagining things or have others
> experienced the same problem?


Dumb bitch. Why would they immigrate to America if they are discriminatory against whites. They want your money dumbass. You should be glad you're married to a man who is not a crazy bitch, like you.

I'm 100% of Korean descent, and my half-sister is half white. She looks more white than Asian (kinda like she's Keanu Reeves sister). And ironically, it's my half white sister than can speak fluent Korean, meanwhile I don't speak a word of it. When we go eat at a K-restaurant, just me and her, I make her do all the talking & ordering so that we do get the authentic (good) food/service. Otherwise, the Korean staff will 'American-ize' our dining experience, if I order/speak in English.

One friend of mine is Chinese (so obviously she doesn't speak Korean). When she goes to a Korean restaurant, speaking/ordering in English, they give her the
whitewashed Korean food/service, too.

So it's not a race thing bitch. It's a language/culture thing.

My advice is to learn how to say the basic polite Korean phrases when you go to these restaurants, so that you let the staff know you're down with the Koreans, and you should get the non-whitewashed dining experience.

BTW whatever sushiman said, don't say it. It's not good. That I know.

anyohasayo Wrote:
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> We have had great luck at Matsu Sushi on Stone
> Road on Centreville. They are Korean, and we are
> not.... we have received some of the best
> restaurant service ever from that place and 5 star
> sushi, too.
>
> I have never eaten at the others, but my Korean
> experience at Matsu has been great.


Matsu is A++. The service is great and the sushi always fresh. We go out for sushi a couple of times a month and have tried several places from vienna to centreville and this place is quality. Do yourselves a favor and avoid Mama Wok in Herdon for sushi (the spring rolls are great though) and, ich, Todai in the Fair Oaks mall.

Bibimbap Go Time Wrote:
>
>
> One friend of mine is Chinese (so obviously she
> doesn't speak Korean). When she goes to a Korean
> restaurant, speaking/ordering in English, they
> give her the
> whitewashed Korean food/service, too.
>

Does she smell like Bok Choi? It is my contention that Koreans smell like Kim Chee while Chinese people smell like Bok Choi. Very odd. Anyone notice that?

>
> Matsu is A++. The service is great and the sushi
> always fresh. We go out for sushi a couple of
> times a month and have tried several places from
> vienna to centreville and this place is quality.
> Do yourselves a favor and avoid Mama Wok in Herdon
> for sushi (the spring rolls are great though) and,
> ich, Todai in the Fair Oaks mall.


And avoid the 7-11 hotdogs but I like their eclairs. WTF is wrong with you people? Japanese do sushi and rating mall food is idiotic!!

sushiman Wrote:
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> Just yell this at the service staff at these
> restaurants:
>
> "Yia! She-Baahl Sche-Ki!"
>
> "Jaa-Jee Boh-Jee"

Hey! G.I.! You wan numbah one guuul? She no habp BD!

EMERIL Wrote:
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> I like Korean food. But I have noticed a pattern -
> we get different service because we are
> non-Korean. My husband thought I was crazy.

there is a good chance your husband is right.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

You pay cash, love u longtime

I remember going to Sorak Garden. I got perfectly fine service but about 1/4 of the menu was 100% Korean and more expensive than the rest of the stuff. All I could think was, 'woof woof.'

I have read some of the obnoxious follow up posts to Emeril's . Here is a lady trying to get some feedback because she wants to be open minded.

Guess what - SHE's RIGHT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is a cluster of restaurnats in Centreville that would prefer not to have non-Korean patronage. The discrimination is suttle - lack of menu explanation, exclusive Korean signage, lackluster service, smaller portions.

If some of you are astounded by it, so be it. It does not mean it does not exist.

For years I have been going to Clifton Florist by IHOp. Now the sign is all in Korean. Try to call - 703-266-1200/ See if they will answer anything.


I am not a racist. I just know when I am treated different.

Bibimbap Go Time Wrote:
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> EMERIL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Soon WAN Galbi next to Trader Joes
> >
> > and Cho's Garden
> >
> > All seem to serve us better when we are with
> > Koreans?
> >
> > Am I just imagining things or have others
> > experienced the same problem?
>
>
> Dumb bitch. Why would they immigrate to America if
> they are discriminatory against whites. They want
> your money dumbass. You should be glad you're
> married to a man who is not a crazy bitch, like
> you.
>
> I'm 100% of Korean descent, and my half-sister is
> half white. She looks more white than Asian (kinda
> like she's Keanu Reeves sister). And ironically,
> it's my half white sister than can speak fluent
> Korean, meanwhile I don't speak a word of it. When
> we go eat at a K-restaurant, just me and her, I
> make her do all the talking & ordering so that we
> do get the authentic (good) food/service.
> Otherwise, the Korean staff will 'American-ize'
> our dining experience, if I order/speak in
> English.
>
> One friend of mine is Chinese (so obviously she
> doesn't speak Korean). When she goes to a Korean
> restaurant, speaking/ordering in English, they
> give her the
> whitewashed Korean food/service, too.
>
> So it's not a race thing bitch. It's a
> language/culture thing.
>
> My advice is to learn how to say the basic polite
> Korean phrases when you go to these restaurants,
> so that you let the staff know you're down with
> the Koreans, and you should get the
> non-whitewashed dining experience.
>
> BTW whatever sushiman said, don't say it. It's not
> good. That I know.


I HAVE NEVER READ A MORE IDIOTIC RESPONSE.

THE KOREANS ARE HERE BECAUSE THEY WERE EATING DIRT IN THEIR HOMELAND> HAD NOTHING TO DO WITHR ACCEPTING WHITES BOZO


WHY DO I HAVE TO SHOW ANYONE I AM DOWN WITH A KOREAN? HOW ABOUT THEY LEARNING HOW TO SAY HELLO TO ME AND THANK ME FOR WELCOMING THEM INTO OUR COUNTRY AND PATRONIZING THEIR ESTABLISHMENT?

"WHITEWASHED?"

THAT IS UTTERLY RIDICULOUS.

PERHAPS A BAN ON KOREAN ESTABLISHMENTS IS IN ORDER TILL THEY DECIDE TO TREAT EVERYONE EQUAL???


CAN YOU IMAGINE HAVING TO GO INTO EVERY SINGLE ETHNIC BUSINESS AND MAKING SURE THEY KNOW YOU ARE "DOWN" with THEM????


BAN THEM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THEYRIGHT wrote:
a lady is trying to get feedback because she wants to be open minded

Oh yes of course, and what better way to be "open minded" than to anonymously suggest that a local business is racist and discriminatory.

I have experienced questionable service myself at two reastaurants.

One in Tysons corner, the large place on rt 7, and one bear Burlington in Fairfax.

Service was slow, wait stuff rather annoyed at our requests.

Not going there again.

formerhick76 Wrote:
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> I remember going to Sorak Garden. I got perfectly
> fine service but about 1/4 of the menu was 100%
> Korean


1/4 and 100% just dont go together. i think you meant that a fourth of the menu was in korean only.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Kiev Wrote:
> One in Tysons corner, the large place on rt 7

Woo Lae Oak?

Man, I really like that place, never had any problems with the service there. You must have been there on a bad day or something, it's usually pretty fantastic.

yeah, it was a saturday night.

Gravis Wrote:
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> formerhick76 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I remember going to Sorak Garden. I got
> perfectly
> > fine service but about 1/4 of the menu was 100%
> > Korean
>
>
> 1/4 and 100% just dont go together. i think you
> meant that a fourth of the menu was in korean
> only.

Yeah, it's that Rest of Virginia education coming through. ;)

THEYRIGHT, I have seen some of the same thing in Little Seoul aka Annandale. I've driven past a few places that didn't seem to have ANY English signage.

ResponseToIgnorantPost Wrote:
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>
> I HAVE NEVER READ A MORE IDIOTIC RESPONSE.
>
> THE KOREANS ARE HERE BECAUSE THEY WERE EATING DIRT
> IN THEIR HOMELAND> HAD NOTHING TO DO WITHR
> ACCEPTING WHITES BOZO
>
>
> WHY DO I HAVE TO SHOW ANYONE I AM DOWN WITH A
> KOREAN? HOW ABOUT THEY LEARNING HOW TO SAY HELLO
> TO ME AND THANK ME FOR WELCOMING THEM INTO OUR
> COUNTRY AND PATRONIZING THEIR ESTABLISHMENT?
>
> "WHITEWASHED?"
>
> THAT IS UTTERLY RIDICULOUS.
>
> PERHAPS A BAN ON KOREAN ESTABLISHMENTS IS IN ORDER
> TILL THEY DECIDE TO TREAT EVERYONE EQUAL???
>
>

Fucking hillbilly. Any Korean restaurant entrepreneur is coming to the U.S. with at least 500K in liquid cash in order to open a quality restaurant. Koreans are not mexicans, you dumb redneck. Go to Cville Lifetime and see how many Mercedes 500s are in the parking lot, and then go inside and see how many Koreans there are. South Koreans got bank in order to immigrate here and immediately open a business. You're dumb redneck ass don't know the difference between North and South Korea. The north koreans aren't allowed to leave, they are the ones eating dirt. Read a book. Turn off FoxNews.

"Whitewashing" the food is the restaurant's attempt to tone down the food so that it isn't as offensive to the uninitiated. Chinese restaurants did this when they first started opening across America. They don't do it to drive Americans away. They do it because they fear American NOOBs will find AUTHENTIC korean food to be too different and strange. So they whitewash it (tone down the spice, garlic, etc).

EMERIL Wrote:
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> I like Korean food. But I have noticed a pattern -
> we get different service because we are
> non-Korean. My husband thought I was crazy.
>
> But the places we have gone to - Sushi/Sashimi in
> Centreville (next to IHOP)
>
> SHO CHIkU - next
> to Grandmart

I've noticed this with many ethnic restaurants. But think of it this way. Do Koreans with thick accents get the same service in Bob Evans or Cracker Barrel as you do?

I think it has more to do with the comfort level of the staff than an intentional effort to snub white people. Korean waitresses are going to have a greater comfort level with Korean customers, especially if their English isn't great.

If it is any consolation, I have experienced the same thing at authentic Italian and German Restaurants.

Hey, I got a Q..


So, with 500k, why would they open up tiny restaurants in shitty ass strip malls, 30 miles away from DC?

this thread reminds me of that Seinfeld Episode when Elaine got the Korean nail salon workers tickets to a Bette Midler Show Rochelle Rochelle.

WHAT??? NO BETTE MIDLER???

Bibimbap Go Time Wrote:
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> ResponseToIgnorantPost Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
>
> >
> > I HAVE NEVER READ A MORE IDIOTIC RESPONSE.
> >
> > THE KOREANS ARE HERE BECAUSE THEY WERE EATING
> DIRT
> > IN THEIR HOMELAND> HAD NOTHING TO DO WITHR
> > ACCEPTING WHITES BOZO
> >
> >
> > WHY DO I HAVE TO SHOW ANYONE I AM DOWN WITH A
> > KOREAN? HOW ABOUT THEY LEARNING HOW TO SAY
> HELLO
> > TO ME AND THANK ME FOR WELCOMING THEM INTO OUR
> > COUNTRY AND PATRONIZING THEIR ESTABLISHMENT?
> >
> > "WHITEWASHED?"
> >
> > THAT IS UTTERLY RIDICULOUS.
> >
> > PERHAPS A BAN ON KOREAN ESTABLISHMENTS IS IN
> ORDER
> > TILL THEY DECIDE TO TREAT EVERYONE EQUAL???
> >
> >
>
> Fucking hillbilly. Any Korean restaurant
> entrepreneur is coming to the U.S. with at least
> 500K in liquid cash in order to open a quality
> restaurant. Koreans are not mexicans, you dumb
> redneck. Go to Cville Lifetime and see how many
> Mercedes 500s are in the parking lot, and then go
> inside and see how many Koreans there are. South
> Koreans got bank in order to immigrate here and
> immediately open a business. You're dumb redneck
> ass don't know the difference between North and
> South Korea. The north koreans aren't allowed to
> leave, they are the ones eating dirt. Read a book.
> Turn off FoxNews.
>
> "Whitewashing" the food is the restaurant's
> attempt to tone down the food so that it isn't as
> offensive to the uninitiated. Chinese restaurants
> did this when they first started opening across
> America. They don't do it to drive Americans away.
> They do it because they fear American NOOBs will
> find AUTHENTIC korean food to be too different and
> strange. So they whitewash it (tone down the
> spice, garlic, etc).


500k? Don't exaggerate just to prove a point.

Bibimbap Go Time Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> EMERIL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Soon WAN Galbi next to Trader Joes
> >
> > and Cho's Garden
> >
> > All seem to serve us better when we are with
> > Koreans?
> >
> > Am I just imagining things or have others
> > experienced the same problem?
>
>
> Dumb bitch. Why would they immigrate to America if
> they are discriminatory against whites. They want
> your money dumbass. You should be glad you're
> married to a man who is not a crazy bitch, like
> you.
>
> I'm 100% of Korean descent, and my half-sister is
> half white. She looks more white than Asian (kinda
> like she's Keanu Reeves sister). And ironically,
> it's my half white sister than can speak fluent
> Korean, meanwhile I don't speak a word of it. When
> we go eat at a K-restaurant, just me and her, I
> make her do all the talking & ordering so that we
> do get the authentic (good) food/service.
> Otherwise, the Korean staff will 'American-ize'
> our dining experience, if I order/speak in
> English.
>
> One friend of mine is Chinese (so obviously she
> doesn't speak Korean). When she goes to a Korean
> restaurant, speaking/ordering in English, they
> give her the
> whitewashed Korean food/service, too.
>
> So it's not a race thing bitch. It's a
> language/culture thing.
>
> My advice is to learn how to say the basic polite
> Korean phrases when you go to these restaurants,
> so that you let the staff know you're down with
> the Koreans, and you should get the
> non-whitewashed dining experience.
>
> BTW whatever sushiman said, don't say it. It's not
> good. That I know.

You are such a tool. Your response sucks.

500K and still living in Centreville

YOU ARE THE MORON. TO BEGIN, THE KOREANS DONT COME HERE WITH 500k. IF THEY DID, they would buy mouthwash.

HERE IS HOW THE GET MONEY - IT IS CALLED "K"

IT IS A CIRCLE OF LENDING WITHIN THE KOREAN COMMUNITY. IT WORKS AND IT HAS ALSO BEEN THE SUBJECT OF MANY LAWSUITS. ESSENTIALLY, A POOL OF PEOPLE PUT MONEY INTO POT AND LEND TO FAMILY. FAMILY PAYS BACK WITH SOME INTEREST. IF THEY PAY BACK THEY CAN BORROW MORE AND ARE EXPENCTED TO LEND TO OTHERS.

DONT SAY I AM WRONG BECAUSE YOU KNOW I AM RIGHT.

ALSO, SOME OF THIS IS DONE IN THEIR CHURCHES.


THE BIG SPENDERS AT LIFETIME FITNESS WITH 500 MERCEDES. - YEAh, the womewn cant drive and have almost run me over. ANother arrogancy.

YES SOME KOREANS DRIVE NICE CARS. BUT ANYONE WHO HAS EVER TRIED TO BUY A HOUSE A KOREAN LIVED IN UNDERSTANDS THAT THE CAR IS A SHOW and truly understand cleanliness is not paramount.

NOBODY IS ACUSING THE KOREANS OF NOT BEING RACIST SHOW OFFS. ANYONE CAN GET THEIR HUGE BUTT IN A MERCEDES

Care to provide more details on the "K"?

links?

ONLY WITHIN KOREANS.

SORRY HEY

so, you guys taking over out country or what? LOL

KOREANBANKER Wrote:
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> YOU ARE THE MORON. TO BEGIN, THE KOREANS DONT COME
> HERE WITH 500k. IF THEY DID, they would buy
> mouthwash.
>
> HERE IS HOW THE GET MONEY - IT IS CALLED "K"
>
> IT IS A CIRCLE OF LENDING WITHIN THE KOREAN
> COMMUNITY. IT WORKS AND IT HAS ALSO BEEN THE
> SUBJECT OF MANY LAWSUITS. ESSENTIALLY, A POOL OF
> PEOPLE PUT MONEY INTO POT AND LEND TO FAMILY.
> FAMILY PAYS BACK WITH SOME INTEREST. IF THEY PAY
> BACK THEY CAN BORROW MORE AND ARE EXPENCTED TO
> LEND TO OTHERS.
>
> DONT SAY I AM WRONG BECAUSE YOU KNOW I AM RIGHT.
>
> ALSO, SOME OF THIS IS DONE IN THEIR CHURCHES.
>
>
> THE BIG SPENDERS AT LIFETIME FITNESS WITH 500
> MERCEDES. - YEAh, the womewn cant drive and have
> almost run me over. ANother arrogancy.
>
> YES SOME KOREANS DRIVE NICE CARS. BUT ANYONE WHO
> HAS EVER TRIED TO BUY A HOUSE A KOREAN LIVED IN
> UNDERSTANDS THAT THE CAR IS A SHOW and truly
> understand cleanliness is not paramount.
>
> NOBODY IS ACUSING THE KOREANS OF NOT BEING RACIST
> SHOW OFFS. ANYONE CAN GET THEIR HUGE BUTT IN A
> MERCEDES



CHEERS TO ALL THE IGNORANT PEOPLE!! ESPECIALLY AN ANNOYING ONE THAT LIKES TO USE THE CAPS-LOCK KEY.


Me. I am a 22 year old Korean blooded, American born everyday guy. I have been racially slurred so many times living here in VA my whole life, im pretty much numb to it. I find this kinda s#it funny. Do you feel more empowered insulting people for the way they are born? Let's keep it real. There are bad stereotypes for EVERY color, nation, religion, gender, and whatever the f*ck else I might have missed. Truth is, I probably know more about American civilization and politics than half you 'Proud to be' Americans.

"YEAh, the womewn cant drive and have
almost run me over. ANother arrogancy."

Oh quit your whiny bitchin. Do you know how many fu<king times I've almost been hit by a white woman? a black woman? Does it even have to be a woman!? Stop being so GODDAMNED ignorant will ya? Have you never driven bad cause you were doing something else in the fu<king car? For fu<k's sake here people. Get the Fu<k real.

Yes, Some korean servers at these dining places might not give you as good service. Maybe they sense you're going to be fu<king cheap on the tip cause they noticed you pull up in your shitty ass mustang. Or maybe they've just had bad experiences with caucasian people and then stereotype your ass right back. Maybe they just suck at SPEAKING korean.

You must feel like a real Smart ass cause you can point out the negatives.

I bet you voted for Bush.

and I bet you didnt vote, cause you are illegal

I bet you got homeschooled cause you can't read.

I am Korean blooded, AMERICAN born.

The "k" is not just in Korean communities. The same financial practices exist within the Philippine communities as well.

I agree with the folks who like Mitsu Shushi - twice a week for me, and Woo Lae Oak is wonderful!

I grew up just like you Wrote:
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> I bet you got homeschooled cause you can't read.
>
> I am Korean blooded, AMERICAN born.



home schooled is TWO words.


LOL

Harry Beaver Wrote:
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> I grew up just like you Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I bet you got homeschooled cause you can't
> read.
> >
> > I am Korean blooded, AMERICAN born.
>
>
>
> home schooled is TWO words.
>
>
> LOL


Just by reading your post, I have determined you are useless to society. Congratulations, you corrected him on simple spelling. Sentences start with capital letters too, you inbred.

hahahah
run along now, its almost 5 pm and people are gonna want their dry cleaning COMPLETE BY THEN

:-)

Remember the old saying you never see stray cats or dogs near an asian restaurant

hahahahahahahahah

http://www.bsos.umd.edu/socy/vanneman/socy441/trends/raceinch.html

The 'K' is what has been known to go down for dry cleaners and nail salons. Don't act like you know more about Koreans than me. I'm a fucking Korean. You're fucking white. Those cheap, low-startup-cost urban-area businesses have nothing to with what were talking about here. Authentic korean restaurants. All the good authentic Korean restaurants that open up here, have done so after already opening 1 or 2 restaurants in Korea and Europe and achieving acclaim and significant financial assets.

For the kiddies here who scoffed at 500k, try opening a authentic ethnic food restaurant with less than 500k in the D.C. Metro area. See what kind of restaurant you end up with. You even been inside Woo Lae Oak?? They put at least 3+ mil in that place. Dumbass. Go back to playing XBOX.

I looked it up, Woo Lae Oak threw down $6 mil just for the location.

hokie06 Wrote:
> > I looked it up, Woo Lae Oak threw down $6 mil just for the location.

Yeah, but Woo Lae Oak is an entirely more ambitious operation than the usual strip mall joint. Their building is on PRIME location right at the corner of 7 & 123, and it's a giant restaraunt space, with room for valet parking.

It's not comparable to a strip mall joint. Way out of the league for a 500K investor.

Not even the same ballpark. Apples to Oranges.

Money is not always a factor in what kind of restaurant you end up having. Quality could be just as shitty as with a cheap ass joint.

there are a lot of small, ethnical restaurants in the DC area that serve great food yet they probably never dropped even 100K into their businesses.


Its all relative.

So, lets fucking end this stupid debate.

THere are no Korean Restaurants in Europe. In fact there is no more Korea. They all moved to Annandale and Centreville.

TO the Korean gurus out there - quite your ass down. You have a memer of your community who did some pretty crazy things recently. Is that all Koreans fault, not a chance. But the fact is that people don't expect people to be so anti-social and arrogant.

EMERIL is on to something. And it bothers others as well. Why aren't people complaining about Indian Restaurants, Kabob Houses, Italian Restaurants, Thai, etc?

Answer: Arrogance. Eat humble pie people.

Your arrogance carrries over to your dry clean establishments,etc. Remeber when the discount dry cleaners came in? You all shit yourn pants so bad, you had to have the CRY BABY KOREAN DRY CLEAN OWNER ASSOCIATION OF FAIRFAX fight,. nOw you all are patying the price.

Korean food can be delicious. But when your servers are discrimintating because I drive an S600 that is paid for , refuse to explain sides, discourage use of BBQ's, etc. PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO BITCH !!!!!!!!!!

IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT IF PEOPLE WERE SAYING THAT YOU ALL SERVE CATS AND DOGS. MAYBE YOU WOULD RESPOND BETTER.

KAM-SAM-EE-DAA for your time

um

what?


LOL

There may be some truth to some Korean owned establishments being a bit biased towards Americans like several restaurants with no English signage or menus but my experience here in Godforsaken Centreville with Koreans has been mostly quite pleasant. There may also be some truth to the "K" club as well because I can't help but notice when my Korean neighbors move out , another Korean family moves in with no "for sale" signs or evidence of homes changing hands.
But quite frankly I don't care because all my Korean neighbors have been wonderful, friendly, generous (and clean) folks who are really very similar to Americans except they seem to have a deeper sense of family values.
I don't know any Korean phrases but have frequented Woo Lae Oak, Soon Wan Gal Bi, Sho Chiku, Sushi/Sashimi, Limelight, Manhatten Bagel and a few other places I don't even know the names of and have never experienced anything but good service. Most of the Japanese places around here are also run by Koreans but most shallow Americans wouldn't know this because they always take things for face value. I don't blame them for thinking a lot of whites are ignorant rednecks because the fact is that they are and I'm one of them too but at least I try to get along with them and everyone else in this diverse little area.
Instead of boycotting these establishments which probably could care less if you do or don't, we should purposely go there, try their food, get to know them and I bet they would welcome any one us non Koreans and be happy to explain what's on the menu and gladly take our money too.

I'll draw the line at the "sea cucumbers" though.

Well said, well said.

" There may be some truth to some Korean owned establishments being a bit biased towards Americans like several restaurants with no English signage or menus but my experience here in Godforsaken Centreville with Koreans has been mostly quite pleasant. There may also be some truth to the "K" club as well because I can't help but notice when my Korean neighbors move out , another Korean family moves in with no "for sale" signs or evidence of homes changing hands.
But quite frankly I don't care because all my Korean neighbors have been wonderful, friendly, generous (and clean) folks who are really very similar to Americans except they seem to have a deeper sense of family values.
I don't know any Korean phrases but have frequented Woo Lae Oak, Soon Wan Gal Bi, Sho Chiku, Sushi/Sashimi, Limelight, Manhatten Bagel and a few other places I don't even know the names of and have never experienced anything but good service. Most of the Japanese places around here are also run by Koreans but most shallow Americans wouldn't know this because they always take things for face value. I don't blame them for thinking a lot of whites are ignorant rednecks because the fact is that they are and I'm one of them too but at least I try to get along with them and everyone else in this diverse little area.
Instead of boycotting these establishments which probably could care less if you do or don't, we should purposely go there, try their food, get to know them and I bet they would welcome any one us non Koreans and be happy to explain what's on the menu and gladly take our money too.
I'll draw the line at the "sea cucumbers" though."
Edited to add, my pets do seem to go missing quite a bit for some reason....

I'm the original DB and DID NOT add that statement:

"Edited to add, my pets do seem to go missing quite a bit for some reason...."

Some assholes likes to masquerade as others, I say grow the fuck up.

I note that the Korean-Americans are one of the best assimilated immigrant groups and have been very successful in a number of businesses. Family values and hard work account for their successes in North American society/culture. In contrast some immigrant groups, attempting to maintain their societies/cultures within the USA, have a harder time. The adage, "when in Rome do as the Romans," still rings true. As well as Mr. Franklin's quote, "Eat to please yourself, but dress to please others."

I ate in "china town" in DC near Verizon center one night. We were gonna split the bill but our server had written it in cantonese or mandorin or whatever. We had to find her and get her to translate it. LOL

and its related to KOREANS how?

just wondering....

how does one say "F*** you!" in Korean? (just thought it may come in handy one of these days.... :) )

DB for president?

Hey, this country's economy is in the shitter and China has her hand on the flush lever.

Where are the Koreans going to go next?

I'm Korean Irish German and Japanese.

Ok let me break this down:

Your white: If you have bad service you prob more than likely to bitch to your wife/friends about the place.

Now for Koreans/Asians: if we get bad service, we Talk, its all over the Asian Network! lol

And in our culture we take care of our own.

One thing you people need to realize - you can't pull out by cattering just to your particular group, any nationality for that matter.

Unless you cater to everyone, you have a good chance of FAILING.

ferfux Wrote:
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> I ate in "china town" in DC near Verizon center
> one night. We were gonna split the bill but our
> server had written it in cantonese or mandorin or
> whatever. We had to find her and get her to
> translate it. LOL


Next time go to Panda Express in any-strip-mall USA. Then you won't have that problem.

Panda Express = nasty

Panda Express = Serious gastrointestinal trauma, eat at your own risk!

Went to MATSU SUSHI -

THE FOOD IS HORRIBLE

THE SERVICE STINKS

THEY NEED TO CONCENTRATE LESS ON PROMOTING SUNA LEE AND FOCUS ON THEIR FOOD AND SERVICE.

THE FOOD AND SERVICE IS NOT SO GREAT AT MATSU SUSHI

How do you like your DOG cooked? I found a dogs head, shaven and frozen , in a brown paper bag behind a asian resteraunt once.
Just keep you kids form shooting up Tech again, ok?

I once found a dogs head, frozen and shaved, in a paper bag behind a Korean resteraunt. How do you like your dog cooked? KAGOGI is the Korean term for it...

First off, they might be suspecting you are from the health department. I don't frequent any of those Korean places since I experienced their terrible food when I was in Korea. I traveled to many a land, but Korea was one place where army rations were tastier. Save your intestines, don't eat that Korean stuff.

EMERIL Wrote:
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> I like Korean food. But I have noticed a pattern -
> we get different service because we are
> non-Korean. My husband thought I was crazy.
>
> But the places we have gone to - Sushi/Sashimi in
> Centreville (next to IHOP)
>
> SHO CHIkU - next
> to Grandmart


they are.

Now you have an idea how black people feel when you discriminate against them. ;)

I prefer to eat fresh dog so I eat at Takaoka's in Fairfax Station.

m97WY Wrote:
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> Now you have an idea how black people feel when
> you discriminate against them. ;)

Then maybe whites should steal some televisions and booze. That's what blacks do.

Koreans favor other Koreans - they have no truck with anyone else. Period, end of story. Thats not racist its single-minded determination, xenophobia and indifference all wrapped into one egg roll.

A Korean friend of mine against his parents wishes married a Chinese lady. He told me the hell storm this caused and also told me that Koreans are the most racist, sexist people on the planet. ---

A lot of these OG Koreans are standoffish because there is a big Korean community here. That means that they come to the US, but get to stay in their comfort zones among other Koreans and end up only assimilating halfway. Some of them are xenophobes (South Korea doesn't have a diverse population) and others are not confident around white people. For example: they're self-conscious about their goofy ass English.

I'm Korean so I'm sympathetic to them, but I've witnessed firsthand that newcomers are not much incentivised to try to fit in with non-Koreans (Korean shops, Korean churches, Korean people everywhere). I've also noticed that the earlier they immigrated (i.e.: before the Korean population here exploded), the more assimilated they generally are.

None of this affects me negatively so I have no reason to care, but the immigrant community could stand to be less cloistered as a population.

I am not Korean, but had many Korean 1.5 and 1 generation friends in College. All were polite to me. Some were stand offish and I was fortunate to have a few befriend me -- over all very kind people and fun to hang out with --- and Korean food is majuso!

jskfifjwksldkahdkfj Wrote:
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> A lot of these OG Koreans are standoffish because
> there is a big Korean community here. That means
> that they come to the US, but get to stay in their
> comfort zones among other Koreans and end up only
> assimilating halfway. Some of them are xenophobes
> (South Korea doesn't have a diverse population)
> and others are not confident around white people.
> For example: they're self-conscious about their
> goofy ass English.
>
> I'm Korean so I'm sympathetic to them, but I've
> witnessed firsthand that newcomers are not much
> incentivised to try to fit in with non-Koreans
> (Korean shops, Korean churches, Korean people
> everywhere). I've also noticed that the earlier
> they immigrated (i.e.: before the Korean
> population here exploded), the more assimilated
> they generally are.
>
> None of this affects me negatively so I have no
> reason to care, but the immigrant community could
> stand to be less cloistered as a population.

Banana.

47tHc Wrote:
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> jskfifjwksldkahdkfj Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A lot of these OG Koreans are standoffish
> because
> > there is a big Korean community here. That
> means
> > that they come to the US, but get to stay in
> their
> > comfort zones among other Koreans and end up
> only
> > assimilating halfway. Some of them are
> xenophobes
> > (South Korea doesn't have a diverse population)
> > and others are not confident around white
> people.
> > For example: they're self-conscious about their
> > goofy ass English.
> >
> > I'm Korean so I'm sympathetic to them, but I've
> > witnessed firsthand that newcomers are not much
> > incentivised to try to fit in with non-Koreans
> > (Korean shops, Korean churches, Korean people
> > everywhere). I've also noticed that the earlier
> > they immigrated (i.e.: before the Korean
> > population here exploded), the more assimilated
> > they generally are.
> >
> > None of this affects me negatively so I have no
> > reason to care, but the immigrant community
> could
> > stand to be less cloistered as a population.
>
> Banana.

The scientific term is Twinkie.

Well, I am not Korean--I am a white female--and I have not really had any issues at my favorite Korean restaurants but I think this is for a few reasons, including that I am a fairly regular customer, because I know a few common phrases in Korean and I am familiar with Korean food so I can navigate the menu and talk with the wait staff with some degree of comfort and familiarity. I think the biggest issue that I have is the assumption by the wait staff that a non Korean will not like the banchan (side dishes). I actually really like most banchan dishes and I speak up and I have never had many issues with refills.

The only time I have ever had an issue at a Korean establishment was at Spa World. I have been there many times and once, as I was getting ready to change into the little outfit that is provided, a middle aged Korean woman was asking me why I was there. She had just come to this area from Korea and was working in some store. She seemed shocked and possibly not happy that I was there. I just told her calmly that I was there to relax and she seemed to back off a bit.