I was getting on to 267 westbound at Reston Parkway. A cop was sitting on the on-ramp pretty far from the highway - checking speed with laser.

He wasn't going anywhere so he might have had others doing the stops, but I didn't see any. Since a majority of cars are speeding at any given time... What does it take to get pulled over?

When driving on the toll road, try to make sure that at least one sucker is going faster than you are.

Do your best not to be black, that never helps.

On that damned road, I would recommend no more than 5 over...Given how much money they have to raise to pay for the f**king metro to Dulles, expect any and all revenue streams to be in full swing.

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"...your suffering will be legendary even in Hell!"

I feel like getting pulled over is based on how good (or bad) your luck is. I can't count the number of times I've flown by state troopers hiding in those "authorized personnel" spots doing 85+ on 95 S and not gotten nailed. Pretty sure my luck is going to run out one of these days.

What kind of car do you drive? I believe cops are more prone to pull over the flashier cars compared to the older cars...

I got my first speeding ticket on the toll road the other week. 82..ouch. plead guilty and had a speedometer checn and got it reduced to 74 in a 55. Thank you judge! Havent sped since but my mistake was going with the flow of traffic. Not sure how the officer was selecting targets as there were definitely csrs going faster than me and my csrs not flashy.

Because i drive a csr

Pinhead the Cenobite Wrote:
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> On that damned road, I would recommend no more
> than 5 over...Given how much money they have to
> raise to pay for the f**king metro to Dulles,
> expect any and all revenue streams to be in full
> swing.

Pinhead nailed this. Let's face it...there's a ton of roads around here and they keep building more. Unless you moved into this area recently, you know there are roads on which you can speed and it's NEVER patrolled and there are roads that are not only ALWAYS patrolled but if you took the time to analyze them closely you'd realize the roads were purpose built for patrol/revenue generation.

The Toll Road's a bitch. Drive the limit and you get run down from behind by all the pompous {insert German-made car make here} drivers. During non-rush hour and clear weather conditions the temptation to push the needle into the red is strong. It's a road BEGGING to be driven, even if you own a '73 Dodge Dart that's down a cylinder. Don't do it. Keep it 5 over.

Oh and the Dulles ACCESS Road? 5 over on that one, too. And watch your approach onto airport grounds. Around 2 miles out it drops to 45 and then again to 35. It'll seem like a crawl after 10+ miles at 60 but they're waiting for you.

Both the airport and ffx county cops are using that strategy on the toll road. Sit back up on the on-ramp so you can't see them unless you basically turn your head around. Then shoot you in the back with laser. Depending on traffic volume I've seen them go after cars that were probably no more than 10-12 over the limit. Totally lame. That road was probably designed for 70mph but they keep it artificially low to generate cash. Want to do something about improving safety:

1. DUI enforcement
2. Texting while driving
3. Focus on the idiot need for speed dweeb going 25 over weaving across 4 lanes in heavy traffic.

Tagging some poor jerk for 12 over on his way home from some lame DC job just stinks.

Most of those cars you see sitting on the ramps have Automatic License Plate Recognition (ALPR) cameras installed. So as you drive by your tag is scanned and ran though the database to see if any hits come up.

This week I've noticed 2 of those digital speed display trailers on the FFX Co Pkwy. One at Hooes in Springfield and the other at Braddock. Usually means the cops will be there next...

They've been using the onramp tactic for a least a couple years. I also saw a guy all the way on the airport road get pulled over by a cop sitting on one of the reston onramps.

All about the cash Wrote:
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> Both the airport and ffx county cops are using
> that strategy on the toll road. Sit back up on
> the on-ramp so you can't see them unless you
> basically turn your head around. Then shoot you
> in the back with laser. Depending on traffic
> volume I've seen them go after cars that were
> probably no more than 10-12 over the limit.
> Totally lame. That road was probably designed
> for 70mph but they keep it artificially low to
> generate cash. Want to do something about
> improving safety:
>
> 1. DUI enforcement
> 2. Texting while driving
> 3. Focus on the idiot need for speed dweeb going
> 25 over weaving across 4 lanes in heavy traffic.
>
> Tagging some poor jerk for 12 over on his way home
> from some lame DC job just stinks.

Most cops will only give you 5 mphs over. No one really gives a buffer of 10. Speed limits are also based off of the population in the area in VA. Thats why 66 is only 55 until you get out to manassas

If you're speaking of Fairfax County police, you're generally going to get a bit more latitude than 5 MPH. They actually have this policy in writing. See general order 501.3, section II.H here:

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/inside-fcpd/pdf/generalordersvolumeiiprint.pdf

The relevant section says:

Because conditions vary with each roadway and the primary purpose of
radar/LIDAR is to cite the more flagrant violator, no motorist should, under
normal circumstances, be cited for violations under 10 mph beyond the
posted speed limit. Tolerance levels, over and under the minimum, may
only be set by the station commander based on circumstances of a specific
location.



This isn't a guarantee, of course; if an officer wrote a ticket for 5 MPH over the limit, the general orders wouldn't do you a bit of good in court. And the orders explicitly acknowledge that station commanders can designate some locations as having lower tolerance. But it's useful to understand that under normal circumstances, officers have explicit written instructions not to write citations for violations of less than 10 MPH. The same orders generally disallow setting up speed enforcement at the bottom of a hill, by the way.

This isn't rocket science folks. Stay at 70 or less on the Toll Road and you have a better chance of getting hit by lightning than being pulled over. (The airport access road is a different story.)

Anon Y. Mouse Wrote:
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> If you're speaking of Fairfax County police,
> you're generally going to get a bit more latitude
> than 5 MPH. They actually have this policy in
> writing. See general order 501.3, section II.H
> here:

+1

I travel most of it twice a day everyday. I usually see one person pulled over per day. The last person I actually saw get pulled over was going about 75-80 in the left lane.

I go about 65-70 and have people blowing by me in the HOV lane, so I'm not too worried about sticking out to a cop when I am surrounded by traffic.

I've seen that copper there on Reston Pkwy ramp too. I've never seen him with laser though. He's there most mornings around 9am or so. There's another one that perches on the HM Parking Lot onramp to 267.

IIRC, laser speed detection guns must be used without any objects in the beam's path, including a patrol car window. I'm a weather guy, not a copper, thus YMMV with this one. I've never seen these guys with the windows open or standing there targeting cars. So I don't think they're really running traps. They're either on break, doing paperwork or waiting for some texting goofball to paint the jersey wall with some pinstriping.

I truly think they're hanging there so as to not impede the flow of traffic on the toll road. There's also one that sits tucked under the Herndon 666 overpass on 267-East in the mornings prior to 9am.

Weath Wrote:
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> ...or waiting for some texting goofball to
> paint the jersey wall with some pinstriping.
>

Well played, sir. Are you by any chance David Mamet?

Kilton's right - under 70 and your good. Those cops are looking for Daily Doubles - speeding+HOV, speeding+reckless(+20 over), etc.

i use the dulles toll road often, way too easy to speed. don't fuck around, they are always on the toll road shooting for people who speed.

just use patience. don't feed the machine. Fuck em, before they can fuck you.

Tyrone Shoelaces Wrote:
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> Do your best not to be black, that never helps.

It sure doesn't...
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I drive it everyday. Never go more than 5 over. Always cops waiting.

I got pulled over at 5am on the toll road....NOBODY was on the road...cop stopped me while I was putting coins to get off the toll road....fuckin $300 ticket....

They need $$$$ for the MET-RO

Fuck The Police Wrote:
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> I got pulled over at 5am on the toll
> road....NOBODY was on the road...cop stopped me
> while I was putting coins to get off the toll
> road....fuckin $300 ticket....


What was the $300 ticket for? Speeding 20+ over?

If I was still in California, I'd call that a jaywalking ticket. Out here, that seems damn expensive.

Fuck The Police Wrote:
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> I got pulled over at 5am on the toll
> road....NOBODY was on the road...cop stopped me
> while I was putting coins to get off the toll
> road....fuckin $300 ticket....


Yeah, $300 for what?

Fuck the PIGS speed on!!!

I haven't seen any cops there lately but am careful anyway.

Stay within 9mph of the speed limit on the highway and you wont get stopped if you are driving normally. Residential stay within 4-5 mph of the limit and the same holds true. I do sincerely wish they would ticket for using the left lane without overtaking traffic - its probably one of the biggest resource wastes in the area. Millions of manhours stolen by morons that cruise in the far left lane blocking traffic for everyone.

Do not drive over the speed limit at all. Not even 1 mph.

It is called the speed limit (maximum) for a reason.

If you see others going faster than the speed limit, law enforcement appreciate you hanging in the left lane at the speed limit to slow traffic down to a safer rate of travel.

Let be careful out there.

I'd say 9+ is when your in the range for getting pulled over. I had a friend once complain that he got pulled over and a truck going faster didn't.

The state trooper said "I count ten cars then I do radar. If the tenth car is over the limit then I pull it over and ticket it. You were the tenth car, you were over the speed limit, you're getting a ticket."

Oh BTW, don't forget there are plenty of unmarked cars on the toll road driving right along with with you.