I would be interested in finding out which business owners support their local school programs and which ones never support their local school programs.
It seems to me that some of these local business owners that are blessed to have us as customers and are all too happy to take our payments for goods or services should give back to their local schools.
I know there are those establishments that always give back and this is not directed at them. This post is to show the ones that never give to their local school.
If anyone has experience with the business that always says no to requests for support I would love to know who they are so that I can take my business to the ones that do give back.

Moe's-one thousand times yes!
Chipotle-never

Chipotle gets a lot of business and should be more supportive.

Every business owner supports schools. They pay their taxes.

Chilis are huge school supporters for us.
Baja Fresh never - never - never but they sure welcome the families that have school age children to buy food. We should boycott the Baja Fresh locations.

Boredom,
You must be a business owner and stupid. I think the post was directed at the business owners that never support their local school programs that taxes probably don't help. I see that Fairfax is getting ready to slash tons of underfunded programs but I bet your taxes are not getting slashed. We need the business community to give back in the form of financial support so that we can keep our kids on the right track. Most of these underfunded programs give kids something to keep them busy and out of trouble.
I am glad you think by paying your taxes you are doing your part. I will make sure I rush right out and buy from you.

The car wash in Springfield is a supporter of the local schools.

Baja Fresh (Pan Am) has supported our school. Also Glory Days and Famous Daves.

As a parent I am willing to put money into the sports that my kid is involved in.
The problem is there are lots of parents that just cannot spend money on extra curricular activities for their kids. Without financial support from the business community some of these programs will disappear. As a business owner I always give to the schools close to my location. I have been lucky over the years to have great customers. I pay my taxes that does go to support the schools but I know that is not enough. We all need to give to these schools to keep kids off the streets.

Outback Steakhouse and Whole Foods are the chief supporters of my kids' school.

Shame to hear that Chipotle isn't pitching in. The Vienna location is a cash cow for them.

Chipotle and Baja Fresh do support.

Waples Mill Elementary for example, has nights where you go to whatever restaurant is listed, buy food and a percentage is donated to the school.

Why should businesses have to support schools? We pay property tax for the schools programs. This tread sounds like parents bitching about not getting a free hand out for their kid’s new uniform. Why don’t you lazy parents get out there with a bucket and hit up a few intersections and ask for donations. Oh wait "booster person" your too good for that aren’t you! You’re too lazy to get out there and make money for YOUR kids program. Start a bake sale or garage sale. Not sure if you have noticed that family owned businesses are struggling to stay afloat. You all just expect something for free without putting any work into it. Get real.

I know one way you can raise some money. Get off your butt and shovel some driveways.

I like the fact girl scouts stand around in front of stores asking men for money. Its good training

yearight Wrote:
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> Why should businesses have to support schools? We
> pay property tax for the schools programs. This
> tread sounds like parents bitching about not
> getting a free hand out for their kid’s new
> uniform. Why don’t you lazy parents get out there
> with a bucket and hit up a few intersections and
> ask for donations. Oh wait "booster person" your
> too good for that aren’t you! You’re too lazy to
> get out there and make money for YOUR kids
> program. Start a bake sale or garage sale. Not
> sure if you have noticed that family owned
> businesses are struggling to stay afloat. You all
> just expect something for free without putting any
> work into it. Get real.

You are an idiot. Many businesses located close to schools get a LOT of business from the students. It's not unreasonable to support those businesses that recognize that fact and support the schools in return.

-SBS-_ Wrote:
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> yearight Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why should businesses have to support schools?
> We
> > pay property tax for the schools programs. This
> > tread sounds like parents bitching about not
> > getting a free hand out for their kid’s new
> > uniform. Why don’t you lazy parents get out
> there
> > with a bucket and hit up a few intersections
> and
> > ask for donations. Oh wait "booster person"
> your
> > too good for that aren’t you! You’re too lazy
> to
> > get out there and make money for YOUR kids
> > program. Start a bake sale or garage sale. Not
> > sure if you have noticed that family owned
> > businesses are struggling to stay afloat. You
> all
> > just expect something for free without putting
> any
> > work into it. Get real.
>
> You are an idiot. Many businesses located close
> to schools get a LOT of business from the
> students. It's not unreasonable to support those
> businesses that recognize that fact and support
> the schools in return.


you just want a free hand me out. Its not the buisnesses responsability to donate money.

-SBS-_ Wrote:
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> yearight Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why should businesses have to support schools?
> We
> > pay property tax for the schools programs. This
> > tread sounds like parents bitching about not
> > getting a free hand out for their kid’s new
> > uniform. Why don’t you lazy parents get out
> there
> > with a bucket and hit up a few intersections
> and
> > ask for donations. Oh wait "booster person"
> your
> > too good for that aren’t you! You’re too lazy
> to
> > get out there and make money for YOUR kids
> > program. Start a bake sale or garage sale. Not
> > sure if you have noticed that family owned
> > businesses are struggling to stay afloat. You
> all
> > just expect something for free without putting
> any
> > work into it. Get real.
>
> You are an idiot. Many businesses located close
> to schools get a LOT of business from the
> students. It's not unreasonable to support those
> businesses that recognize that fact and support
> the schools in return.


I doubt that buisnesses located near schools get alot of buisness from schools unless you are reffering to mcdonalds and 7-11.

why do u hate america?

yearight Wrote:
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>
> you just want a free hand me out. Its not the
> buisnesses responsability to donate money.

What's a "hand me out?" No, it certainly isn't their responsibility to donate money, but all else being equal, many people would patronize the business that supported their local schools.

johnny Wrote:
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>
> I doubt that buisnesses located near schools get
> alot of buisness from schools unless you are
> reffering to mcdonalds and 7-11.

While many of the businesses are eating establishments, it certainly isn't limited to McDonald's or 7-11.

It's called advertising not a "hand me out". Hello McFly? You there?

Teens shoplift. One kid buys something while 5-6 of his friends stand around crowding out paying customers. How are they a boost to a business? Most businesses have to limit the number of kids at a time to limit stealing

yearight Wrote:
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> Why should businesses have to support schools? We
> pay property tax for the schools programs. This
> tread sounds like parents bitching about not
> getting a free hand out for their kid’s new
> uniform. Why don’t you lazy parents get out there
> with a bucket and hit up a few intersections and
> ask for donations. Oh wait "booster person" your
> too good for that aren’t you! You’re too lazy to
> get out there and make money for YOUR kids
> program. Start a bake sale or garage sale. Not
> sure if you have noticed that family owned
> businesses are struggling to stay afloat. You all
> just expect something for free without putting any
> work into it. Get real.

10/10 post

Fairfax is cutting things that should have never been in the budget in the first place. So, because the government didn't spend wisely, it's local businesses job to pick up the slack? Hate to break it to you, but we are capitalist, not communist.

Smart capitalists understand the business value of community involvement.

For the business owners that think's their business down the street from a school doesn't need the kids you might not be very smart. Most kids that attend school usually live near the school and guess what.... every kid has a parent or two or more with divorce the way it is. Unless you are a government agency or some entity that does not need local business then you should absolutely help the schools. Taxes only go so far. I see everyday kids that have been steered away from bad situations by being involved in extra curricular activities.
To the ones that say the first poster should get off their lazy as_ you must be a real class act yourself. Most of the booster groups work hard to raise money for their programs but much of the time the business owners that benefit from the families will say no. I know times are tough for all of us but we are very lucky to be in the DC area. Most of our neighborhood restaurants are packed. The automotive shops are busy.
One more thing when you support your local school you are getting exposure and building goodwill with the families involved in that program. I would love to know the business owners on here with the venom toward supporting a school program. I for one would make sure my family and friends know how supportive you aren't and choose to give our business to the business's that do support the programs.
To the last poster I agree that there are some things that should have never been in the budget but there are many great programs that may disappear with the budget cuts and that would certainly lead to at risk youths being led down some bad roads.

NegativeDreamStealer Wrote:
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> Smart capitalists understand the business value of
> community involvement.


your right. But a small store where profits are low such as a deli or family run buisness they cant afford to donate money for any cause. Parents on here are asking for money for extra curricular activitys. It is the parents financial responsability to meet the needs of their kids not buisnesses. The economy is in shambles and parents want money for their kids "new uniform or a trip to NYC." The parents should be raising money with car washes, bake sales and any other form of providing a service to the community and getting money for it. Not showing up at a establishment and asking for a check! Boyscouts sell mulch and the girl scouts sell cookies to

School counselor Wrote:
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> For the business owners that think's their
> business down the street from a school doesn't
> need the kids you might not be very smart. Most
> kids that attend school usually live near the
> school and guess what.... every kid has a parent
> or two or more with divorce the way it is. Unless
> you are a government agency or some entity that
> does not need local business then you should
> absolutely help the schools. Taxes only go so far.
> I see everyday kids that have been steered away
> from bad situations by being involved in extra
> curricular activities.
> To the ones that say the first poster should get
> off their lazy as_ you must be a real class act
> yourself. Most of the booster groups work hard to
> raise money for their programs but much of the
> time the business owners that benefit from the
> families will say no. I know times are tough for
> all of us but we are very lucky to be in the DC
> area. Most of our neighborhood restaurants are
> packed. The automotive shops are busy.
> One more thing when you support your local school
> you are getting exposure and building goodwill
> with the families involved in that program. I
> would love to know the business owners on here
> with the venom toward supporting a school program.
> I for one would make sure my family and friends
> know how supportive you aren't and choose to give
> our business to the business's that do support the
> programs.
> To the last poster I agree that there are some
> things that should have never been in the budget
> but there are many great programs that may
> disappear with the budget cuts and that would
> certainly lead to at risk youths being led down
> some bad roads.


If your a School counselor I suggest they fire you and put your salary to Extra curricular activitys.

yearight you are wrong. When a parent shows up asking for support it isn't just a one sided arrangement. For that donation the business get's promoted to those that frequent the business. The students and their families and the staff.
Parents also have a responsibility to help also such as bake sales or such.
We have a restaurant near our school that donates financially to a couple sports programs. I can tell you that the families go to that restaurant constantly and they are rewarded by business and building community goodwill.
I would dare to venture that those on here stating that supporting the schools is bad also feel any type of advertising is bad and I bet also that may have something to do with why you are empty at lunchtime or dinnertime, or why the families take their cars elsewhere for service. Wake up and realize that the families in Fairfax County schools spend heavily with the local economy.

Fellow Wrote:
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> yearight you are wrong. When a parent shows up
> asking for support it isn't just a one sided
> arrangement. For that donation the business get's
> promoted to those that frequent the business. The
> students and their families and the staff.
> Parents also have a responsibility to help also
> such as bake sales or such.
> We have a restaurant near our school that donates
> financially to a couple sports programs. I can
> tell you that the families go to that restaurant
> constantly and they are rewarded by business and
> building community goodwill.
> I would dare to venture that those on here stating
> that supporting the schools is bad also feel any
> type of advertising is bad and I bet also that may
> have something to do with why you are empty at
> lunchtime or dinnertime, or why the families take
> their cars elsewhere for service. Wake up and
> realize that the families in Fairfax County
> schools spend heavily with the local economy.


Its called shitty food if a resturaunt is not busy at luch or dinner. You think Cheese cake factory or maggionos is busy because they donate to schools? No. If there was such a huge monitary benifit to donating to schools EVERY buisness would do so but they dont so point proven.

NegativeDreamStealer Wrote:
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> Smart capitalists understand the business value of
> community involvement.


Dumb liberals expect free handouts from the government and businesses.

You know, if the public schools cut money from the budget, and you don't like that, you could always enroll your child in a private school.

Go to any other county ouside of the NOVA area and see how bad they have it. You people have the nerve to complain about buisnesses not donating money to the school system when they already pay high taxes for your childs extra programs. You all live in the beltway bubble.

As a capitalist and business owner myself, I can tell you this much. You are only successful to the extent that the community in which you operate accepts you.

It might be nice if one's local market were in 100 percent agreement that businesses need only pay their taxes and call it a day. Unfortunately, wishing won't make it so.

So business owners can do one of two things. They can turn their backs on the "dumb liberals" who expect "free handouts," and see where that gets them.

Or they can give as generously as they can - to schools, foundations, the Ruritans Club, whatever works - and reap the bottom-line benefits of goodwill.

Would you rather be right? Or would you rather be successful?

After I go into my childs school and see all the waste and later get my tax bill, if i was a business owner I wouldnt give them a cent. The school system always want more than they have and spend more than they are alotted. When times get tough like they are now, they seem to be the only ones not able to take no for an answer, instead Dale has to whine to the Washington Post and get the bored at home mothers rallying against the county government so that their children will not be idiots.

I have owned my business for years. Part of my yearly budget is geared to community programs. Be it a county school or a private school or a local charity. It is part of doing business.
I am really shocked to hear some of this anger toward supporting community.
I have loyal customers that have been coming to us for years and I appreciate them. I also am always building towards bringing in new customers and hopefully keeping them for years. I no longer have children in the school system but I still see the importance of after school activities. I would much rather put my budget toward my local community as opposed to giving to an international charity that 10 or 20% of my donation goes to actually doing good.
I am not a liberal and have voted conservative all of my life. With that being said I believe strongly that if we give back we receive ten fold in return.
(yearight) it is funny that you mention Cheese Cake factory and Maggianos as both of those advertise heavily and both strongly support community and both are usually packed. If you ever get a chance to speak with one of the owners of Maggianos you would know they are well liked in their COMMUNITY.

Why dont you pass some savings to your customers then since folks are hurting? Or is the tax write off to charity a better deal?

Twilight zone Wrote:
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> I have owned my business for years. Part of my
> yearly budget is geared to community programs. Be
> it a county school or a private school or a local
> charity. It is part of doing business.
> I am really shocked to hear some of this anger
> toward supporting community.
> I have loyal customers that have been coming to us
> for years and I appreciate them. I also am always
> building towards bringing in new customers and
> hopefully keeping them for years. I no longer have
> children in the school system but I still see the
> importance of after school activities. I would
> much rather put my budget toward my local
> community as opposed to giving to an international
> charity that 10 or 20% of my donation goes to
> actually doing good.
> I am not a liberal and have voted conservative all
> of my life. With that being said I believe
> strongly that if we give back we receive ten fold
> in return.
> (yearight) it is funny that you mention Cheese
> Cake factory and Maggianos as both of those
> advertise heavily and both strongly support
> community and both are usually packed. If you ever
> get a chance to speak with one of the owners of
> Maggianos you would know they are well liked in
> their COMMUNITY.


Resturaunt chains do not donate to the community and if they do its a few hundered dollars in gift cards a year. I should know, I have managed several of them. Cheese cake factory and Maggianos are not busy because they support the community. You have no idea what you are talking about. I guess outback is packed every night because they do so much for the community uh? Well, your wrong its because people like it.

mng
you are right. They are not busy because they support community. They are busy because they advertise, have great food, and they do support community. Supporting community is not always a financial donation. There are many things that sucessful restaurant owners do to support community.
Outback is packed because thay have great food and are well liked by humans and the last time I checked spend into the 7 figures buying national advertising, and they do support their community.
It seems you are not able to comprehend what I wrote. Supporting community for a family owned business is a personal decision and not everyone understands the importance. I bet you have great people skills.
By the way some national chains do support locally with monetary donations.
Anytime I have ever hired someone, people skills are extremely important in our hiring decisions and just from your message that you have put here I can tell you are a miserable person and probably a poor manager.

Why is this even relevant? Can an auto shop fix my car for a good price? Can a restaurant give me a good meal? Yes? Fine. I could car less if they give shit to schools.

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WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Why is this even relevant? Can an auto shop fix my
> car for a good price? Can a restaurant give me a
> good meal? Yes? Fine. I could car less if they
> give shit to schools.

Not everyone has the same hot button. You may be indifferent to a business' reputation in the community. The same may not be true of the friend or neighbor who recommended the business to you.

Happened upon this post. Interesting. I have always supported the schools in our area and will continue to do so. Even though we pay taxes I realize there are many things that schools and charities need beyond what the taxes cover. I feel a great level of personal satisfaction in supporting programs in my community. I know that many of my good friends that operate family owned establishments also find that supporting our customers by giving back to the community is a good thing.

The http://www.papermoonclub.com/ in Springfield.

Simply giving someone a check for asked amount simply fuels laziness and greed.
And expectations, that one will be given money by just asking for it.

I cant stand the fact that middle school and high school kids have to go door to door and beg for money.

Yes, its begging.

When you do nothing in return, its not earning the $, its begging for it.

Taxes is one thing, but doing something IN THE COMMUNITY is another.

I will gladly give someone some cash if they do something good in my area.

Go around and pick up some trash. Now there is a noble idea.

And when you are done, here is the check.

Its how it should be done.

End of story.

NegativeDreamStealer Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> -----
> > Why is this even relevant? Can an auto shop fix
> my
> > car for a good price? Can a restaurant give me
> a
> > good meal? Yes? Fine. I could car less if they
> > give shit to schools.
>
> Not everyone has the same hot button. You may be
> indifferent to a business' reputation in the
> community. The same may not be true of the friend
> or neighbor who recommended the business to you.

Now, now, that sounds a bit like you are telling WasingtoneLocian the world does NOT revolve around him. It isn't his fault Mommy neglected him and you know better to call him out on it.

The Fairfax County Chamber of Commerce has signed a letter urging the Virginia delegation to the General Assembly to lift the freeze on the local composite index - the school funding formula. If it stays frozen for FY 2011, FCPS loses out on $61M in state education funding. It's great that local businesses are standing with education supporters on the issue of the LCI freeze - good schools are an incentive for businesses to locate here. All of the local Chambers of Commerce cite the good schools as a reason for businesses to come to Fairfax County.

NegativeDreamStealer Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> -----
> > Why is this even relevant? Can an auto shop fix
> my
> > car for a good price? Can a restaurant give me
> a
> > good meal? Yes? Fine. I could car less if they
> > give shit to schools.
>
> Not everyone has the same hot button. You may be
> indifferent to a business' reputation in the
> community. The same may not be true of the friend
> or neighbor who recommended the business to you.


Let's get real. Wal-Mart is one of the worst businesses in terms of supporting local communities where it operates and it is the most successful retailer in the world. I imagine this is important to less than 1/100th of 1 percent of the consuming public.

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Most businesses dont care.

Will people stop from buying Papa Johns Pizza if they stop cutting checks tommorow to local schools?

Ofcourse not.

Maybe....MAYBE...the schools need to cut the fuck down on their appetite.

Recently drove by Chantilly High.

its got a DIGITAL MESSAGE BOARD in front of the school now.

That my friends is a complete waste of money.

Litsa? Is that you?

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> Litsa? Is that you?


LOL! Maybe the coffers are running low.

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One thing that some of you are missing is when we give to the schools we are also getting advertising in return. I have been asked many times over 20 years in business. I make the decision to help out. It is odd that some of you are so angry. It is your choice as an owner to not give back to your community. No one has ever come to me begging for money for nothing. These are our friends and neighbors after all and the people that help make my business a success.
The person that mentions Wal Mart as a bad supporter is wrong. They give millions back to local and national projects.

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> The person that mentions Wal Mart as a bad
> supporter is wrong. They give millions back to
> local and national projects.


In total, yes. But it used to be that the typical store could only give up to $2,500 a year (total contributions) to local causes. That may have changed in recent years, but that wasn't the case about 10 years ago when they were still the top retailer in the world. When you think of the tens of millions of dollars each store generates in a given year, that's an insult.

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Just curios: How do you support schools?
1. Do you know the taxes a business pays in FAIRFAX?
2. Do you know that many of these owners make less money than you probability do?

If I have a business and You have kids is my responsibility to pay for their education?

Do your homework before opening such a stupid argument!



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visa666 Wrote:
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> Just curios: How do you support schools?
> 1. Do you know the taxes a business pays in
> FAIRFAX?
> 2. Do you know that many of these owners make less
> money than you probability do?
>
> If I have a business and You have kids is my
> responsibility to pay for their education?
>
> Do your homework before opening such a stupid
> argument!

But I think it's "good business" to support your community, and it's a good community that supports its businesses. The two go together. Good schools almost always attract relatively affluent citizens, who attract and support local business.

vienna mom Wrote:
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> visa666 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just curios: How do you support schools?
> > 1. Do you know the taxes a business pays in
> > FAIRFAX?
> > 2. Do you know that many of these owners make
> less
> > money than you probability do?
> >
> > If I have a business and You have kids is my
> > responsibility to pay for their education?
> >
> > Do your homework before opening such a stupid
> > argument!
>
> But I think it's "good business" to support your
> community, and it's a good community that supports
> its businesses. The two go together. Good
> schools almost always attract relatively affluent
> citizens, who attract and support local business.


You think too much

First, please don't compare locally-owned retailers with Wal-Mart. Completely different business model.

Second, don't assume all local businesses are retailers. They aren't.

Third, although advertising (or promotion in general) is a legitimate business reason for community involvement, it isn't the only reason.

Let's say you need to pull a permit for something and the municipality isn't inclined to approve. Or say you're in need of a good lawyer - one with relationships at the county courthouse - to represent you in a business matter. Maybe you're in need of a supplier or subcontractor. Maybe you just need the neighbors to not object to something you want to do.

Let the idealogues fall on their swords. Me? I like to prevail. So - I contribute.

Take a crowbar to that wallet and give a twenty for the band camp, folks. You never know when you'll need a friend.

The only taxes that go to education are real estate taxes. No business or state tax go to education. All that tax money goes to roads and local improvement.

Locals should only support schools if they wish. The problem is that many local parents will not go out and hunt for new supporters, and the AD's take advantage of the businesses who do give to the schools, so the school normally ruins the relationships that schools have with locals.

I agree that sometimes it seems that an athletic director may take advantage of a local business but that is really not the case. Some of us try to help out as much as we can. The programs that we are asked to help with are not to help a student get an education. The programs are usually extra curricular activities. These my friends are what keeps kids busy and off the streets. Not all parents have incomes that allow them to fund their kids extra activities but as a member of my community I am happy to be able to keep these activities funded. It gives us better citizens down the road. I own a restaurant for many years and will always give to my community. Everyday I have families coming into my restaurant. I thank them by supporting the schools around my area. If your restaurant is empty and you don't support your community it is your fault. I find it a bit silly to hear someone say I pay my taxes isn't that enough?

Just support your community and shut up

These establishments come to mind in Burke:

Great Harvest Bread Co.
McDonalds
Glory Days
Target
Kohl's
Papa John's

Also, not in Burke, Chik-fil-a and Great American Restaurants.

My impression of these businesses is more positive than other local businesses because they are committed and generous to our community. When I hear their name or patron them I associate them with community. It's good PR. I try to patron them and I spread the word to others that they give back.

I'm sure other local businesses support our schools, but I haven't heard or seen their names come up.

Also, I do try to make it a point to support local businesses. It's my way of contributing to the community financially and I also want to support locals' entrepreneurial efforts. I'm not saying I do it for charity, but I have made a concerted effort skipping the convenience of getting icecream at the mall and stopping at our local Cold Stone on the way home to help their business.

I'm not saying businesses should be expected to give, but it's extra nice when they do and it is recognized and appreciated by many in the community. I also think the community should appreciate local businesses and not take them for granted.

Booster person Wrote:
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> I would be interested in finding out which
> business owners support their local school
> programs and which ones never support their local
> school programs.
> It seems to me that some of these local business
> owners that are blessed to have us as customers
> and are all too happy to take our payments for
> goods or services should give back to their local
> schools.
> I know there are those establishments that always
> give back and this is not directed at them. This
> post is to show the ones that never give to their
> local school.
> If anyone has experience with the business that
> always says no to requests for support I would
> love to know who they are so that I can take my
> business to the ones that do give back.

Fairfax CTY
The most notable commitment the county makes to its school system is the allocation of 52.2% of its fiscal budget to the school system.[3] Including state and federal government contributions, along with citizen and corporate contributions, this brings the 2009 fiscal budget for the school system to $2.2 billion.[1] The school system has estimated that, based on the 2006 fiscal budget, the county invested $13,340 in each student in 2009. [1]

Knowing this friend let me ax you a question. How much freeking God Damn cash do you need for your precious education monopoly? Go asked the NEA for money JAck Ass or start supporting vouchers and real choice to intro an element of competition into your crappy school system. The Administrative costs for Fairfax County are insane. If I ran my business that inefficiently my doors would close with-in a year. As a Business owner let me just say go F yourself real good. Jeez what a hopeless braindead moron you and your ilk are!




(1http://www.fcps.edu/about/stats.htm



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Elle Diabla Wrote:
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> yearight Wrote:
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> > Why should businesses have to support schools?
> We
> > pay property tax for the schools programs. This
> > tread sounds like parents bitching about not
> > getting a free hand out for their kid’s new
> > uniform. Why don’t you lazy parents get out
> there
> > with a bucket and hit up a few intersections
> and
> > ask for donations. Oh wait "booster person"
> your
> > too good for that aren’t you! You’re too lazy
> to
> > get out there and make money for YOUR kids
> > program. Start a bake sale or garage sale. Not
> > sure if you have noticed that family owned
> > businesses are struggling to stay afloat. You
> all
> > just expect something for free without putting
> any
> > work into it. Get real.
>
> 10/10 post


Good points. "Socialism works great until you run out of other peoples money"

Looking at our Govts books it sure as hell seems to me we've reached that point.

I don't take any complaints about the school system seriously because I've seen too many petty complaints. Like the gymnastics program being cut... a program which cost about $1800 per student and was only used by a small group.

Ultimately, the cost of extra curricular activities is the responsibility of the parents, not the school district or local businesses. That being said, I think the school district should support them when feasible and practical.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/20/2010 04:52PM by Genevieve.

Whole Foods, Domino's, Starbuck's, Chik-Fil-A all support our local schools in my area.

I agree that it is ultimately the parents responsibility to fund extra activities for their children. For many parents there is no money at the end of the month to put their kids in extra activities and those kids are left to their own devices which many times is hanging out and getting into trouble. I have a small business and sometimes business is good and I support the schools near my business. I think it is very important to always have your name out in the community especially when the community is spending money in the business. Its a great feeling when a program I support can help keep a kid off the street and give them direction.

Don't be so bitter mcsmack. You seem like a real dick. How bout you and I get together and for every smack i put upside your head you donate 5 dollars to a local church charity.

Giant hires work release convicts. isn't that enough community support?

Booster person Wrote:
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> I would be interested in finding out which
> business owners support their local school
> programs and which ones never support their local
> school programs.
> It seems to me that some of these local business
> owners that are blessed to have us as customers
> and are all too happy to take our payments for
> goods or services should give back to their local
> schools.
> I know there are those establishments that always
> give back and this is not directed at them. This
> post is to show the ones that never give to their
> local school.
> If anyone has experience with the business that
> always says no to requests for support I would
> love to know who they are so that I can take my
> business to the ones that do give back.


THEY ALREADY DO DIMWITTED SOCCER MOM, IT'S CALLED TAXES!

Giant never never never supports local community - they do on the national level which really makes sense. When you support on a national level about 80% of donation goes to overhead. Gee.....

Also Wegmans is a real local non supporting piece of crap. Super expensive, good food, but zero local support for charities. They do give to national charities that give 15-20% of donation to the needy.
United Way is a good example.
The director of each office makes in the 6 figures. HUH?
How about the Red Cross? The top dog there hardly makes over 250,000 per year plus benefits.

My advice. Find a charity that gives 90% to the ones the charity is designed to help. Give to those and to school extracurricular programs to keep kids off the street.

Springfield Mall never supports any local school programs or charities.
They do however encourage gangs to gather and roam the halls.

Taxpayer also wrote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Boredom,
You must be a business owner and stupid. I think the post was directed at the business owners that never support their local school programs that taxes probably don't help. I see that Fairfax is getting ready to slash tons of underfunded programs but I bet your taxes are not getting slashed. We need the business community to give back in the form of financial support so that we can keep our kids on the right track. Most of these underfunded programs give kids something to keep them busy and out of trouble.
I am glad you think by paying your taxes you are doing your part. I will make sure I rush right out and buy from you.




Umm Isn't your job as a parent to keep your kids on the right track? Is it not your job to keep your kids busy and out of trouble? Why is it up to the local businesses to fund programs to keep your deliquent child out of trouble and busy?

You must be a yuppie parent and stupid.Someone that would rather pawn their kid off to a nanny or some program rather than take responsibility for them yourself. YOU Sir are a DICK.

Oh and please keep the posts coming about the businesses that don't support so I know where to continue shopping and eating. The bottom line is this. When I want a damn hamburger, a shirt, Etc... I could give a shit if the business I choose to go to has supported your fucking kids cheerleading sqaud.

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Let's get real. Wal-Mart is one of the worst
> businesses in terms of supporting local
> communities where it operates and it is the most
> successful retailer in the world.

I guess it is easy to make assumptions and make up stuff like this. As someone who knows people from small towns in this state, I know that when Wal Mart comes in the local mom-'n-pops that have been ripping off their town for decades create a fuss, then Wal Mart comes in and employs WAY more people than was previously possible. They actually make home ownership and saving a dollar or two in the household possible in these towns they operate in. And kids have a lot more chance of finding a summer job. Other retailers move in nearby to catch the Wal Mart traffic and the area's prospects again grow.

It can't be the most successful retailer in the world with brick and mortar and not employ tons of people who, guess what, live in "local communities."

Say what you want about Wal-Mart, they are one of the largest job-drivers in America (especially rural America). That supports local communities way more than some statistic that asks how much on top of that was donated to some boosters club.


I'm with others above. I didn't get ONE boosters person or group offer to shovel my driveway for a good donation in our winter storms this season. I would have gladly given for that over some request for a handout with a clipboard. They wouldn't shovel their own school's sidewalks but one would think the boosters monetary potential would have been a good incentive. Easier to play video games on days off I guess, so that's what I'll be doing when they knock on the door.

Guy,
Giant has supported the Summer Reading Program run by Fairfax County Public Library for at least the last six years. That is local.

I am starting a program called buy XXX a new car and pay my rent for a year. Any local business or national chain that would like to donate to by program, please feel free to contact me. I will post the name of any business on FFXU that supports my new program so all the above assholes that like handouts can frequent your establishment.

This program will provide many benefits to ME, like allowing me to continue to drive to work on a daily basis, hince keeping me off the streets and out of trouble. The money I will save from not paying my rent for a year will allow me to save more money to further my education, again, making me smarter and keeping me off the streets and out of trouble.

HELP PLEASE !!!!

It could have been written……Hey; I want to support business owners who give to the local schools. Let’s start a list.

Instead, (Booster person) by your standards, let’s start a list of who gives and who doesn’t. How would you know? As the chief financial officer in a local business I have given plenty over the years. I had employees who had MS, special needs children, relatives dying from cancer and one who was deaf. I gave to the deaf society, Special Olympics, MS, Cancer and a myriad of others. Why not start a thread that says….let’s start a list of business owners who give to Juvenile diabetes and those who don’t.

The names of business that support schools are all over school material such as calendars or the local school newspaper.

http://www.fcps.edu/SouthLakesHS/

Opus Wrote:
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> The names of business that support schools are all
> over school material such as calendars or the
> local school newspaper.

Actually not true. We supported the local school ad nauseam. We chose to have the atheltic posters say " a gift from friends." because each ad generated hundreds of more solictiations that I didn't have the time or money to handle.

johnny Wrote:
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> I doubt that buisnesses located near schools get
> alot of buisness from schools unless you are
> reffering to mcdonalds and 7-11.

Really?

Go to the Vienna Chipotle when you get a moment. I'd say every kid from Madison goes there.....often. It's crap food, but it's the "cool place" to be.

huh

Dear Booster,

Went to a business concern today in Merrifield that happen to have 3 special needs employees. Kids. They treat them like gold but DON'T give to the schools (so I found out) Do you want their name for the list?

I'm glad companys hire special needs people, it's fun to watch them work

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graymoose1 Wrote:
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> I'm glad companys hire special needs people, it's
> fun to watch them work


Would you like the name for your list?